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keras · 2025-12-08T13:05:17-0600

Douggg said:
How can you not understand this ?

I have presented my understanding, with logical, sensible and Biblical support.
The extra days as Prophesied in Daniel 12, will come AFTER Jesus Returns.

I regard your 'charts' as wrong and the end times cannot happen as you portray.
The main point in your errors is the rapture/resurrection at any time; belief. Having to allow for that to take place, colours all the rest of your end times set out.
My Forum friends; no one is going to leave earth, such an idea is contrary to Gods plans for humankind. We must endure until the end.
After Jesus Returns, then Atonement will be made for any sins and the Temple will be cleansed and rededicated.
After 30 days and 75 days; respectively.

RocksInMyHead · 2025-12-08T13:04:10-0600

Servus said:
This is what a Caribbean fishing boat looks like:

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That is what some Caribbean fishing boats look like. Others look like this:

or this:

or this:

Dave... · 2025-12-08T12:58:10-0600

Dan Perez said:
# 1 AND the RICH MAN in. . Luke 16:31 SOUL is in HELL !!

# 2 His body is in a GRAVE

# 3 His SPIRIT goes BACK. to Christ that GAVE IT in. ECC 12:7

Hey Dan

Hades, not Hell. Hell comes after the great white throne judgment (Revelation 20:11-15). There is a physical resurrection unto life for the saved, and a physical resurrection unto judgment for the unsaved (Matthew 3:10-13). thus, believers and unbelievers are both physically resurrected, either unto life, or unto judgment. The Parable of Lazarus and the rich man. All unbelievers are kept in Hades. It's like a holding cell. Waiting for the resurrection unto judgement.

Revelation 20:11-15 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Dan Perez said:
# A And in. 1 COR. 1. WE SEE a believer turned over to. SATAN for. the. DEATH of. the FLESH. in order that the SPRIT

may. be. saved in the. DAY. (. CAUGHJT UP ). of the LORD JESUS !!

#. B. Beware because CHRIST can and will PUNISH BELIEVERS

#. C. And that the BODY will be the GRAVE , BUT THE SPRIT will. be in. PARADISE !!

# D And check 1. Thess 4:13 and 17. !!

# E And I see 4 resurrections , how many do you SEE. ??\

dan p

This is the physical part.

John 5:28-29 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth--those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.

The spiritual resurrection for believers happens when we are born again.

bbbbbbb · 2025-12-08T12:56:31-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
That's what people do when they don't have a biblical argument. Only Scripture was quoted, nothing else.

If you feel we don't have to keep the Ten Commandments, God's Laws and "whoever" means Jews only, and we don't have to only worship God or keep His commandments and can make the word of God of no effect Mat 7:7-13 Mat15:3-14, guess we shall find out soon enough. This is the group I want to be in Rev22:14, not this one Rev22:15 1 John2:4 Mat7:23 Heb10:26-30

Hebrews

BCP1928 · 2025-12-08T12:54:37-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
1. The rule of law for narco terrorists should be applied and protected the same as they were applied and protected to ISIS. Which means that the military has authorization to use lethal force once the enemy is identified and confirmed as lawful military targets.

Right, but once they are disarmed and out of the fight law prohibits them from being killed. Only a moral bankrupt would consider it the right thing to do.

Oompa Loompa said:
2. If they are going to be criminally charged, prosecuted, and tried, yes. But we are talking about lawful enemy combatants, not criminals being cried and prosecuted for a crime. I think that is the primary disconnect. You do not see them as enemy combatants because you do not consider the designating authority as legitimate. So you still think as though they are just mere criminals.

Unlike Christian morality, the law of armed conflict prohibits the killing of helpless individuals whether they are terrorists or not,

bbbbbbb · 2025-12-08T12:51:01-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
God's Word. Exo20:6 John14:15 Mat5:19-30 Mat15:3-14 Mark7:7-13 Mat19:17-19 Mark2:27 Isa56:2,6 Rev14:12 Rev22:14-15 etc etc

Out of context and viewed through Mrs. White's interpretations, which were her words, not God's. I ought to clarify my previous post to include that not only do I believe that your post was your own words, but I credit the interpretation not to you but to Mrs. White.

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-12-08T12:50:11-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
1. The rule of law for narco terrorists should be applied and protected the same as they were applied and protected to ISIS. Which means that the military has authorization to use lethal force once the enemy is identified and confirmed as lawful military targets.

2. If they are going to be criminally charged, prosecuted, and tried, yes. But we are talking about lawful enemy combatants, not criminals being cried and prosecuted for a crime. I think that is the primary disconnect. You do not see them as enemy combatants because you do not consider the designating authority as legitimate. So you still think as though they are just mere criminals.

Has Congress declared individuals who brings narcotics to be enemy combatants? or is it something we just made up?

durangodawood · 2025-12-08T12:50:09-0600

probinson said:
Yes. Why even have the system? You clearly believe it's not even a little bit reliable, so why not just get rid of it completely?

Its not an issue Ive looked into deeply. But, generally, unverified data in this environment is literally worse than nothing. Stick to what data can be verified.

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-12-08T12:47:35-0600

Servus said:
Are you looking for any method that avoids stopping Narco drug smuggling? Like a broad socioeconomic program that could take years to become effective? The US is a huge nation that's right on Narco's doorstep. Which makes it a lot easier to set up receiving and distribution facilities.

The United States has been waging a "war on drugs" since the 1970s. Efforts have included punishing both drug sellers and users, as well as covertly attempting to destroy sources of drugs in Latin America. So far, these strategies have not proven effective. It appears that the USA consumes more drugs than any other country.

Do Americans use illegal drugs more than other industrialized countries because of their proximity to certain borders? We hear that much fentanyl comes from Canada and China, but why don't Canadians use it themselves? And with China's population being three times larger than the U.S., why don't they face similar fentanyl issues?

BCP1928 · 2025-12-08T12:46:59-0600

Servus said:
Considering how bad the Narco drug situation is in America, that method appears to not be affective enough.

In that case you had better not look into the Coast Guard's intersection rate out there. That would impose even more cognitive dissonance than you are suffering now. That, along with the fact that the drugs in the Venezualen boats were not destined for the US might be to much for you.

Wolseley · 2025-12-08T12:46:17-0600

Larniavc said:
I live in England and it’s fine.

It doesn't look fine to me.....

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Oompa Loompa · 2025-12-08T12:44:11-0600

Perpetual Student said:
Let me ask two simple questions:
1) are you in favour of applying and protecting the rule of law, without ifs or buts and without exceptions?
2) Do you adhere to the principle that anybody is innocent until proven guilty?

1. The rule of law for narco terrorists should be applied and protected the same as they were applied and protected to ISIS. Which means that the military has authorization to use lethal force once the enemy is identified and confirmed as lawful military targets.

2. If they are going to be criminally charged, prosecuted, and tried, yes. But we are talking about lawful enemy combatants, not criminals being cried and prosecuted for a crime. I think that is the primary disconnect. You do not see them as enemy combatants because you do not consider the designating authority as legitimate. So you still think as though they are just mere criminals.

DaisyDay · 2025-12-08T12:43:32-0600

probinson said:
Yes. Why even have the system? You clearly believe it's not even a little bit reliable, so why not just get rid of it completely?

It is useful for tracking trends, as an early alert system for possible problems. For instance, if a significant number of unexpected adverse events followed a particular medicine or procedure, then that should be investigated. What did you think it is for?

Say it aint so · 2025-12-08T12:41:26-0600

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bbbbbbb · 2025-12-08T12:40:47-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
I believe these are your words, not God's. I am only interested in what God said as if only Jews can worship God and Gentiles can worship other gods, or only Jews should honor their parent and Gentiles can disrespect them, or only Jews should not lie to one another but Gentiles are free too. There are only two groups- saved and lost and all of God's people (His saints) keep the commandments of God Rev14:12 why Jesus said "whoever" Mat5:19 which means everyone.

I happen to believe that these words are your and not God's.

DaisyDay · 2025-12-08T12:40:16-0600

BasedLutheran said:
Science denialism.

Not even close.

BasedLutheran said:
We have literally 3 decades of VAERS data showing deaths and other harm from Hep B vaccine

I don't think you have a clear understanding of what VAERS is for, how it works and how it can be manipulated by bad actors.

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-12-08T12:38:39-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
You are the one that accused Trump of attacking fishing boats. Where is the fishing gear? At least you could provide one example of any of the attacked boats that a reasonable person would possibly suspect that the vessel could have been a fishing boat. In fact, I bet you couldn't find a single example in which the vessel in question that couldn't possibly be used to smuggle drugs. Bombs were dropped on people suspected of setting up IEDs with far less evidence than what was used to blow up the boats.

President Trump and his administration are not taking action against fishing boats but boats that are carrying drugs. My question is, can we simply attack a ship transporting drugs without going through the legal process, such as prosecuting and punishing the perpetrators? Should we just strike them with missiles instead?

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-08T12:36:24-0600

Trump was a Democrat in 1993 so.it stands to reason he was a criminal.

BPPLEE · 2025-12-08T12:35:09-0600

Data shows a stark contrast between the administrations. Under President Trump (FY 2017–2021), encounters were relatively low and stable, averaging under 500,000 annually, influenced by pandemic restrictions like Title 42. Under President Biden (FY 2021–2025), encounters surged to record highs, averaging over 2 million per year through 2023, driven by global migration pressures, policy perceptions, and post-pandemic recovery—though they declined sharply in late 2024 due to new restrictions. The unauthorized immigrant population grew by about 3.5 million from 2021–2023 (reaching 14 million total), with net international migration hitting 2.8 million in 2024 alone. Under Trump's second term (starting January 2025), encounters have plummeted to historic lows (e.g., under 8,000 per month by October 2025), with zero releases into the U.S. and increased deportations. Key Data ComparisonThe table below summarizes annual southwest border encounters (the primary indicator of illegal immigration attempts) based on CBP data. Figures are fiscal year (October–September) unless noted; Biden's FY 2025 data is partial (through December 2025).

Fiscal Year	President	Southwest Border Encounters	Notes
2017	Trump	303,916	Low due to pre-pandemic enforcement.
2018	Trump	396,579	Stable; family separations policy implemented.
2019	Trump	851,508	Peak under Trump; asylum restrictions tightened.
2020	Trump	400,651	Sharp drop from Title 42 expulsions (COVID policy).
Trump Total/Avg.	2,952,654 / ~738,000	Title 42 expelled ~1.5 million overall (mostly in 2020).
2021	Biden	1,659,206	Surge begins; Title 42 continues but recidivism rises to 27%.
2022	Biden	2,206,436	Record high; ~2.5 million released pending processing.
2023	Biden	2,475,669	Peak year; 3.2 million total encounters including ports.
2024	Biden	~1,800,000 (est.)	Decline after June asylum restrictions; still ~4x Trump's avg.
2025 (partial)	Biden/Trump	~500,000 (Biden); ~150,000 (Trump, Jan–Dec est.)	Sharp drop under Trump to <10,000/month by mid-year.
Biden Total/Avg. (through 2024)	~8.1 million / ~2 million	~11 million total encounters over 4 years; ~4.4 million repatriations (including 3 million Title 42 expulsions).

probinson · 2025-12-08T12:34:44-0600

durangodawood said:
Whats the point of un-verified data in an environment where we know people are prone to misattribute? Especially when theyve been saturated with lies and misinfo.

Yes. Why even have the system? You clearly believe it's not even a little bit reliable, so why not just get rid of it completely?

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-12-08T12:28:59-0600

Servus said:
I'd say it's due to too many Narco drugs being smuggled into the United States.

Yes, that's correct—more drugs enter the U.S. than any other industrialized country. But why? Is it because American consumers use more drugs, creating higher demand? Without demand for narcotics, dealers would go elsewhere. It's a matter of supply and demand economics. So, why do most drugs come to the U.S. rather than Europe or Canada?

longhair75 · 2025-12-08T12:28:47-0600

I really miss my friend Rabbi Abe.....

Chesterton · 2025-12-08T12:27:46-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
The case is still ongoing, but according to the indictment, they paid Poole $100k per episode. In media production world, the title "producer" is annoyingly ambiguous and can have a bunch of different meanings with one of them being "financier."

I know. I once watched the credits for a 22 minute TV sitcom. There were 3 executive producers, 12 producers, 27 co-producers, and 139 assistant producers, lol. The show was probably produced by more people than watched it. I suspect people are having lunch, and one of them says "Hey I'm starting a new project. If you pick up the tab I'll give you a producer credit".

But Tim has complete editorial control. He's seen enough to not be a dupe.

iluvatar5150 said:
I don't know. The indictment didn't say.

I just don't get what your beef is. The aim of Russian and Chinese propaganda is to sow division to bring down America and the West. That's what your side of the aisle is already doing 24/7 anyway.

iluvatar5150 said:
Without knowing who did the shooting, it's impossible to know why. Maybe it was just some randos getting drunk and firing out their windows. Maybe it was somebody with a vendetta against guys in knit hats.

I heard him say they had received death threats in October which were deemed credible by the FBI. And the threats came from some person(s) who are already "on their radar" for making threats to other conservative figures.

prodromos · 2025-12-08T12:27:26-0600

Apple Sky said:
No not then bit they knew where all this was leading too, from Newton to Albert Einstein to Morley & Tesla and then eventually NASA.

We've been over this. NASA gets less than half of 1% of the US federal budget.

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