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ICE Nativity scenes: Churches reimagine Christmas story amid deportations

The only refugees the Trump administration apparently recognises white south Africans fleeing a fictitious genocide.

The only refugees the Trump administration apparently recognises white south Africans fleeing a fictitious genocide.

I would not know I do not read newspapers, have no radio or TV.

What I have is reality, what I see before my eyes, and all in all generally speaking, I admire especially Muslim women I see them every day
they do a fantastic job, seeing children off to school, humping shopping etc.

Even driving busses, always quick to smile.

What spurped me to comment in the first place was the mention of refugees in the OP, Mary and Josef were not fleeing at the time of nativity there was a consensus, folk counting and registering.

Their refugee status came into play when they had to flee to save the child.
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Do Your Actions Speaks Louder then your knowledge?

Jesus had a custom, and his custom was to keep the Sabbath day on the seventh day of the week, but in our day we keep Sunday, and for some reason its not written in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, to attend Church service on the first day of the week. But let's go into Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about. 15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all. 16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

There it is again. It is by Grace that ye are saved, through faith, and that not of ourselves, lest any man should boast.

We are unprofitable servants. Meaning, NOTHING you will ever do will profit you.
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Not a lot of respect for men

I grew up with verbal abuse. I was judged by an atheist father. God did not tell him that all people without college educations are losers.
That would have been terrible, sorry to hear that - did he claim God revealed that to him while being an atheist? In situations like that it may take time to get used to the metaphor of God as our benevolent Father - or deal with positive male authority in general. I wish you healing.
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Do Your Actions Speaks Louder then your knowledge?

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No need to fellowship now.....peace in Jesus name
You never fellowshipped. You came to preach and condemn. Did not work.
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Do Your Actions Speaks Louder then your knowledge?

People fail to realize that if the laws (10 Commandments) was nail to the cross, their would be no church today, even on the first day of the week, which is not written in the law. But it is very strange that people say there is no law, Jesus did it all, and refuse to follow what’s written in the Bible. That the day to go to church is on the seventh day of the week, Saturday. Then they say or quote, that the laws are written in our hearts, if that’s the case for some people, then you would know in your heart what day the Sabbath is on. Also it’s very spiritual that it’s written in the law, remember the sabbath day on the seventh day of the week.

So you're saying it is OK to steal and kill and to commit adultery and to bare false witness, etc...those things that you're saying that we have to separate from, and it's OK to do those things, because we don't have to keep the law. You say it causes division, because we under grace. But, Paul say in Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? NO, we should not sin! Because people who read and understand the word of God knows that Paul say in Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Maybe the teachers who do not obey the word of God are the ones not to listen to. Something else we have to understand something here, because this law Holy. Paul say in (Rom. 7:7,12) (v.7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, THOU SHALT NOT COVET. Paul asked a question, is the law sin? He said God forbid, he said the only way that he knew what sin was, was by the law. (v.12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Why in the world would a Christian want to do away with something that God said is holy.

This is true and God had Peter to clearly warn you about some of Paul’s writing. Now in (2Peter:3:15-16) (v.15) And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; (v.16) As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Now you need to take heed to this warning, you can’t ignore all the bible and just concentrate on one or two verse out of the writings of Paul. Because some of Paul’s writing is hard to be understood.
There is so much wrong here. First, this is a Strawman. No one made the argument that the 10 commandments are no longer valid. I posted for you, and you ignored it, the function of the law today. No one made the argument that we can covet, steal, or murder. I posted for you how 9 of the commandments, including not to covet, steal, or murder, were repeated into Jesus two love commandments. I posted and defended how Jesus became the Lord of the Sabbath by His sacrifice of the cross and is now our sabbath rest. In addition, Paul’s teaching are not hard to understand at all but they do kill your arguments. In your argument you have to do some serious mental gymnastics to attempt to overcome Paul but it doesn’t work.

However, when your doctrines are at the fringes of Christianity you will make fallacious arguments and shame people into thinking that they are sinning when they are not. You fully buy into Ellen White’s unscriptural teaching that those that worship on Sunday will get the mark of the beast. In other words, you believe, and said so in my poll thread about the sabbath, that those who worship on Sunday are actually sinning and in danger of going to hell unless they repent. This is about as absurd as it gets because you are condemning the vast majority of professed Christians, except for those from your sect of course, for worshiping God a few hours later. God is not a legalist. Jesus rebuked legalists constantly and effectively during His ministry on earth.
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Yep lots of reasons maybe they are more interested in Hollywood movies about space & no longer believe as they should or maybe they are believing in science more than God, yes lot's of reasons.

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It's perfectly possible to understand/know science and believe in God.

To say otherwise, is just ignorance.
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ICE Nativity scenes: Churches reimagine Christmas story amid deportations

Public assistance does not have an infinite supply. You say we need young workers to replace the aging population, more people on government assistance does not help with this issue
Yeah it really put a strain on our resources letting those 90 people in our country

Guess we best kick those 90 people out then. ^_^
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ICE Nativity scenes: Churches reimagine Christmas story amid deportations

Public assistance does not have an infinite supply.

No, but it's got a pretty big one.

You say we need young workers to replace the aging population, more people on government assistance does not help with this issue
It does if it goes to immigrants who are themselves young and who also have babies in greater numbers than native-born Americans.
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All I can say is that, the Bible is
indeed an educational object and it does not tell of a globe. Even
modern cartography, in all of its wonder, states that the globe
earth is just another possible projection.

By Paul Hart.
His name is Pauly Hart, and he is just as deluded as you are.
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Dear Pete Hegseth, I’m Grateful the Japanese Navy Spared My Grandfather’s Life

Oh, it's a trick question. How many wars have been formally declared since WWII? I'll bet Congress declared them.
The answer is none. The last time congress executed their power to declare war was for WW2. So when you think about all the wars and conflicts the United States either started or got involved, it was not because Congress declared war. So the notion that we cannot be at war with drug cartels because "only congress can declare war" is nonsense.
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ICE Nativity scenes: Churches reimagine Christmas story amid deportations

Did you just say they were on public assistance? If so, then they can pay for stuff.
Public assistance does not have an infinite supply. You say we need young workers to replace the aging population, more people on government assistance does not help with this issue, and immigrants tend to send much of the money they do earn back to where they came from
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Probably lots of reasons.
Not being able to believe in a God of love when there is much suffering, would be a chief reason.
Being let down by the church, is another - after all, what must God be like if his followers/representatives behave so badly?
Perceiving that the church has too much wealth when there is much poverty, may be another reason.
And sadly, even meeting other Christians - those who tell people they are going to hell, those who insist that church members tithe, those who say that people will have to give up parties/smoking/drinking/gambling or they can't be a Christian.

Maybe even people who claim the earth is flat, and everyone except themselves, is wrong.

Yep lots of reasons maybe they are more interested in Hollywood movies about space & no longer believe as they should or maybe they are believing in science more than God, yes lot's of reasons.

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Do Your Actions Speaks Louder then your knowledge?

People fail to realize that if the laws (10 Commandments) was nail to the cross, their would be no church today, even on the first day of the week, which is not written in the law. But it is very strange that people say there is no law, Jesus did it all, and refuse to follow what’s written in the Bible. That the day to go to church is on the seventh day of the week, Saturday. Then they say or quote, that the laws are written in our hearts, if that’s the case for some people, then you would know in your heart what day the Sabbath is on. Also it’s very spiritual that it’s written in the law, remember the sabbath day on the seventh day of the week.

So you're saying it is OK to steal and kill and to commit adultery and to bare false witness, etc...those things that you're saying that we have to separate from, and it's OK to do those things, because we don't have to keep the law. You say it causes division, because we under grace. But, Paul say in Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? NO, we should not sin! Because people who read and understand the word of God knows that Paul say in Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Maybe the teachers who do not obey the word of God are the ones not to listen to. Something else we have to understand something here, because this law Holy. Paul say in (Rom. 7:7,12) (v.7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, THOU SHALT NOT COVET. Paul asked a question, is the law sin? He said God forbid, he said the only way that he knew what sin was, was by the law. (v.12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Why in the world would a Christian want to do away with something that God said is holy.

This is true and God had Peter to clearly warn you about some of Paul’s writing. Now in (2Peter:3:15-16) (v.15) And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; (v.16) As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Now you need to take heed to this warning, you can’t ignore all the bible and just concentrate on one or two verse out of the writings of Paul. Because some of Paul’s writing is hard to be understood.
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RFK Adjusts Hepatitis B Vaccine Recommendations; Democrats Lose Their Minds

CF has been flaky for me the last two days, so I lost much of my last post. But I feel it's important to talk about one of those things that I lost: Healthy Vaccinee Bias.

Basically, it goes something like this:
  • A mostly-healthy, low-risk population is vaccinated.
  • A retrospective observational study is conducted.
  • Very few people get sick ard/or die.
  • THE VACCINES WORKED! THE HEAVENS REJOICE! THE MEDIA DOTH DECLARE THAT THE VIRUS HAS BEEN DEFEATED! ALL HAIL SCIENCE!
What studies like this fail to account for is that even if the mostly-healthy, low-risk population had not been vaccinated, they would still have had very few people get sick and/or die. We're back to correlation != causation. But in the case of these observational studies (funded by industry, natch) , correlation IS causation. We gave the vaccine, people didn't get sick, ergo, the vaccine was effective. This is why there is often not a comparator to unvaccinated populations.

They tried this during COIVD. Studies were awash with healthy vaccinee bias. It worked for a little while. Who can forget the government propaganda, "The Pandemic of the Unvaccinated"? Until the real-world demonstrated that people who were vaccinated were getting sick just as much as people who weren't vaccinated. Fully vaccinated populations experienced outbreaks of infections. Odd, if the vaccine is supposed to "protect" you. Then came the pivot. You'll still get COVID, but you won't die. But people who weren't vaccinated weren't dying either. And no matter how many industry-funded studies there were, reality set in. That's one of the reasons why COVID vaccine uptake dwindled each year and is now in the low 20% range.

The authors and organizations that write and publish these studies know precisely where their bread is buttered. They know the average person doesn't understand the difference between relative risk and absolute risk. They know the average person doesn't understand healthy vaccinee bias. So they publish studies with the "right" results to keep their funders happy.

Here is a great article that demonstrates how the industry has captured our healthcare systems.

"Our healthcare system isn’t about health—it’s about business.
And in this business, harm isn’t an accident. It’s built into the system.
The more I uncovered, the more I realized:
We aren’t just patients. We are customers.
And we are all trapped in Big Pharma’s spider web of influence."

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Zohran Mamdani taps ex-con rapper who served 7 years for armed robbery as criminal justice adviser on transition team:

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Zohran Mamdani taps ex-con rapper who served 7 years for armed robbery as criminal justice adviser on transition team:


Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani has picked a controversial rapper who did seven years in state prison for armed robbery to advise him on the criminal justice system, The Post has learned.

Mysonne Linen, 49, a Bronx convict-turned-activist who was found guilty of two felony heists in the late 1990s, was appointed by the democratic socialist to sit on his mayoral transition’s “criminal legal system” committee — just one of many questionable picks.
I am not surprised. I have no doubt that Mamdani will have very many more extreme picks.
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