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prodromos · 2025-11-27T04:41:17-0600

I watched a YouTube video of this guy using a drone to carry a mesh antenna up to the legal limit for drones, trailing a wire down to a series of home built instrument which indicate voltage, which successfully resulted in a couple of thousand volts.

So free energy, right?

Not really, as there was only a tiny current so barely 100th of a Watt of power, insufficient to do any kind of useful work. Plus his drone was expending a huge amount of energy to carry the weight of the antenna and trailing lead, way, way more than was being generated. Of course he could have used a balloon, but that ignores the large amount of energy necessary to extract helium from the atmosphere in the first place.
There simply is no such thing as free energy.

Aryeh Jay · 2025-11-27T04:40:49-0600

Danthemailman said:
Amen! It blows my mind how certain people seem to have no problem with the Unuted States being flooded with ILLEGAL immigrants or with despicable, radical left policies and rhetoric that fan the flames of hatred, violence, lawlessness and treason. They only have a problem with Trump because he is standing up against the radical left's agenda to destroy America.

Come on, destroy America? They don't want to destroy America, they just want to reshape it to a woke gender fluid commie socialist atheist Islamic Caliphate where the wealth is distributed to those who deserve it most with abortions and gender realignment services are performed free of charge without parental consent at the government run indoctrination centers formerly known as public schools.

I'm sure it will be fabulous.

Dan1988 · 2025-11-27T04:39:22-0600

RamiC said:
This is exactly what you are suspicious of in post #684. They, just like you announce here, believe that they are lead by God and therefore immune to deceit.

CF Rules state "Stating or implying that another Christian member, or group of members, are not Christian is not allowed." Terms and rules

I don't know who the true Christians are, only the born again believer and God know. So I would never conclude that someone is not a Christian. But I can point out erroneous and unbiblical interpretations of scripture.

I'm not sure if you've ever heard of the expression "iron sharpens iron", this is where Christians encourage each other by sharing the truth of the gospel.

David Lamb · 2025-11-27T04:38:33-0600

Apple Sky said:
How can a person believe in both ?

I am almost certain that I have read a post from you where you agreed that Genesis 1 does not mention the shape of the earth. Have you changed your mind? Which verse(s) Genesis 1 do you think teach the shape of the earth? I cannot find one. If no mention is made in Genesis 1 of the earth's shape, then somebody could believe that the earth was shaped like a pyramid and still believe Genesis 1.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-27T04:33:26-0600

Strong in Him said:
I'm telling you, I believe Genesis 1 and that the earth is a globe. It's perfectly possible to believe both..

How can a person believe in both ?

Dan1988 · 2025-11-27T04:31:20-0600

Jipsah said:
Or the likes of you. You've no guarantee that you aren't one of the Evil Robots, now do you?

Really? How interesting! How long have you been into amateur psychology?

Nah, I just sit back and marvel at the sort of rubbish that some folks believe that God does or doesn't do based on God-only-knows what. And part of the marvel is how that can blow and posture and pontificate s though they'd been given their, she we say, dubious, notions of what God will or won't do via Divine revelation of some sort.

How novel! I'd have sworn that He hangs on your every word. <Laugh>

The actually question isn't whether God should accept my counsel, but whether anyone at all should accept yours. I read the Gospels, and I read your beliefs, and I'm dogged if I see very much overlap there. Why did our Lord have to die if He had already who would roast and who wouldn't before He created Adam.

Could He have done that? Of course! Did He actually do that? If so, why? Why God through all the trouble of ctrting the illusion that there was hope for at least some of humanity, when in fact there was none? And why did our Lord say so much stuff that, if your pernicious beliefs are true, were simply false?

Nah, the trick is that if your rubbish was actually true, then the gospel is simply a practical joke played to see how many will fall for it.

Not with you, matey; on that we may rely.

The only way I could be one of the "Evil Robots", would be if God was a liar. But we know that it's not possible for God to tell a lie. He simply can't do it, so it absolutely impossible.

Here are just a few proof text confirming that I am already saved and nothing can change that fact. I'm a born again believer so all of the following verses are describing me.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life".

John 5:24
"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life".

John 10:28
"And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of My hand".

1 John 5:12
"He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life".

1 John 5:13
"These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God".

As you can see, there are no "Evil Robots" mentioned so you'll have to go and do some more homework.

Psychology is quackery, it has nothing to offer Gods elect. It's based on human wisdom and philosophy, and both have nothing but false hope to offer their victims.

God had no other option, but to send His only Son to suffer and die for the salvation of His elect. (Which is a small number, referred to as the remnant). It was impossible to forgive His elect, without having His Son stripped naked, then tortured to the point where He was unrecognisable. His back had flesh hanging of it from being whipped, they ripped His beard of so his face had flesh hanging off it and He was spat on by countless people.

Don't you think that God would have spared His Son all of that suffering and indignity, if there was an easier way. The only reason it doesn't make sense to you is because you're putting yourself (a totally depraved) sinner in Gods place (a Perfect and thrice Holy God).
You are judging God with your fallen mind, so it's no wonder you're theology is so messed up.

Danthemailman · 2025-11-27T04:19:43-0600

BPPLEE said:
When deploying them in our own country is in harm’s way that tends to show that their deployment is necessary

Amen! It blows my mind how certain people seem to have no problem with the Unuted States being flooded with ILLEGAL immigrants or with despicable, radical left policies and rhetoric that fan the flames of hatred, violence, lawlessness and treason. They only have a problem with Trump because he is standing up against the radical left's agenda to destroy America.

Larniavc · 2025-11-27T04:12:02-0600

BPPLEE said:
The truth hurts

This is why some Christians get a bad rep. They don’t seem to care about the feelings of other people and appear to go out of their way to insert themselves unsolicited into other people’s lives.

Larniavc · 2025-11-27T04:09:10-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
Do they have a positive track record?

They do but I dunno why one would use them in this instance.

BPPLEE · 2025-11-27T04:00:50-0600

Larniavc said:
Of course it’s rude. If you say something that upsets people you are the one being rude regardless of your feelings.

The truth hurts

Dan1988 · 2025-11-27T04:00:45-0600

timothyu said:
That is independent of the rules and doctrines of their denomination? Focusing only on the Gospel of the Kingdom? Won't find one.

There is only One true Church and only one true gospel. The one true Church is not governed by any "denomination" or external authority. Our only authority is the Lord and His Word.

The Lord Jesus is the Head of the Church, and all of Gods elect from every age are members of His body. If you asked God to lead you to a true Church, He will. But it might not be what you're expecting and you may not like hearing the truth of the gospel.

Larniavc · 2025-11-27T03:58:30-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
If you don't agree with using affirmative care as their therapeutic solution, what therapy should they be offered?

RileyG said:
I’m not being rude. It’s simple biology. Men are not women or vice versa. The truth isn’t rude.

Actions speak louder than words.

Of course it’s rude. If you say something that upsets people you are the one being rude regardless of your feelings.

Paidiske · 2025-11-27T03:55:17-0600

Or it could be that the volunteers themselves have asked. In the case I dealt with, the volunteers were wanting to radically change the way they worked (to reduce client contact) before they were given the training.

Larniavc · 2025-11-27T03:55:13-0600

RileyG said:
Actually, it has happened in minors.

Jazz Jennings (real name Jaron Bloshinsky) received sex change surgery at age 17.

Now he is experiencing a binge eating disorder, multiple meltdowns, has no sexual function or arousal, and will never experience a normal sexual relationship because he was his parents “experiment.” His fertility, puberty, and health was exchanged for fame and fortune.

Shame on his parents!

This Jazz Jennings? The one going to Harvard?

Jazz Jennings - Wikipedia

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BPPLEE · 2025-11-27T03:52:18-0600

GoldenBoy89 said:
Foolish actions like pointless deployments of our National Guard, putting them in harms way.

When deploying them in our own country is in harm’s way that tends to show that their deployment is necessary

Christsfreeservant · 2025-11-27T03:48:03-0600

“Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled.” (Hebrews 12:14-15 NASB1995)

Peace with all people must include peace with God. For we are never to compromise our faith and biblical convictions and the teachings of Christ and of his New Testament apostles in order to be at peace with anyone. We are never to compromise truth, righteousness, and moral purity so that others will like us, and so they will approve of us. But if we know that we said or did something to offend another person, because of something we did or said in the flesh, then we need to repent of our sin and seek their forgiveness and reconciliation. And they may still reject us, but we must do our part.

For we are also to pursue “the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord.” And sanctification is holiness and purification. For when we believe in Jesus Christ with God-gifted and God-persuaded faith in him, it results in us being crucified with Christ in death to sin, and us being raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as servants of God and of his righteousness, in holy living. And to be holy is to be separate (different, unlike) the world because we are being progressively conformed by God to the likeness of character of Jesus Christ, our Lord.

And if we are to see to it that no one comes short of the grace of God, what should that look like for us? Well, the grace of God is his kindness towards us who are sinners by nature. And in his kindness he sent his only begotten Son Jesus Christ, who was God in the flesh (fully God and fully human), to die on a cross and to put our sins to death with him so that, by faith in him, we will now die to sin and live to God and to his righteousness in walks of obedience to his commands in holy living and in surrender to his will. For this purpose Jesus gave his life up for us on that cross to free us from sin.

And God’s grace, which is bringing us salvation, is training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives while we wait for Jesus’ return. God’s grace to us is never free license to keep on living in sin and for self. For Christ “gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.” “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.” (See Titus 2:11-14; Ephesians 2:8-10)

So, if we are to see to it that no one comes short of the grace of God, then we are extending ourselves to others to show them compassion and forgiveness of sins. This does not put our stamp of approval on their sins, for that is the opposite of biblical grace. So to show them the grace of God is not only in us forgiving them, but it is in us sharing with them the message of the gospel of our salvation that Jesus died on that cross, not just to forgive us our sins, but to deliver us out of our slavery (addiction) to sin so that we can now serve him with our lives in obedience to his commands.

We are never to become bitter, angry, and unforgiving people. But again, forgiveness and grace are not tolerance of deliberate and habitual sin. Grace never approves of sin, but it forgives the sinner who is repentant, and it gives the sinner a chance to change, and a chance to be forgiven and to live a new life in Christ Jesus free from addiction to sin, and free to now serve God with their lives in holy living. But forgiveness is not permission for the sinner to continue in sin without punishment. For all who make sin their practice, and not obedience, they will not inherit eternal life with God.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

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Through Christ who gives me strength
But sometimes I wonder what He can do through me
No great success to show
No glory of my own
Yet in my weakness He is there to let me know

His strength is perfect when our strength is gone
He'll carry us when we can't carry on
Raised in His power, the weak become strong
His strength is perfect, His strength is perfect

We can only know
The power that He holds
When we truly see how deep our weakness goes
His strength in us begins
Where ours comes to an end
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Dan1988 · 2025-11-27T03:45:50-0600

RamiC said:
Please share with all of us where your understanding of "Biblically correct" comes from.

Good, because the Lord Jesus is the only person who should ever do that, He is God.

"The “fear” that perfect loves casts out is the fear of God’s judgment. We know that Judgment Day is coming, but those who are in Christ know the love of God, which drives away fear of condemnation. The dismissal of the fear of judgment is one of the main functions of God’s love. The person without Christ is under judgment and has plenty to fear (John 3:18), but, once a person is in Christ, the fear of judgment is gone. He is reconciled to God, and “there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”" (Romans 8:1).

"In summary, the word perfect in 1 John 4:18 means “complete” or “mature,” and the love that is referred to is God’s selfless agape love. The fear that this perfect love drives out is the fear of punishment. We have God’s promise that believers in Jesus Christ will not be judged with the world: “God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Thessalonians 5:9; cf. 1 Corinthians 11:32). We can say with the psalmist, “In God I trust and am not afraid” (Psalm 56:11)."

What is the meaning of “perfect love casts out fear” (1 John 4:18)? | GotQuestions.org

Do you believe that you will know the truth when you hear it?

How do you know this?

Yes it does. 10 Key Bible Verses on Wisdom and Discernment

My understanding of Gods Word, comes from God, just as everything else does.

I don't know why you failed to accept the fact that "the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom". You tried outsource your response, by referring me to an unrelated bunch of verses which say nothing about hew fear of God.

I already know the truth, so I'm not waiting to hear about it.

Only Gods elect, (born again believers) know the difference between the true gospel and a false version of the gospel. This doesn't mean that I'm smarter than those who are being deceived by the wolves in sheep's clothing. It just means that I am le by the Holy Spirit, and He will not allow me to fall victim to the doctrine of demons.

Gods Word confirms that it's impossible to, deceive one of His elect.

Dan1988 · 2025-11-27T03:19:03-0600

RamiC said:
You said this "Now for a dose of the bitter medicine, also known as the awful truth." in post #648.

There is no "bitter medicine" or "awful truth" in the gospel...it is Good News..."The gospel is the “good news” because it contains the exceedingly wonderful message of God’s redemption of sinful humanity through the death and resurrection of His Son, Jesus Christ. The gospel is the heart, the central core of Christian preaching. The English noun gospel comes from the Anglo-Saxon term godspell, meaning “glad tidings.” It is translated from the Greek evangelion, which means “good message.” Originally, the word was related to news of military triumph. But when the New Testament was recorded, its writers assigned the term gospel to the “good news” of salvation in Jesus Christ."

The blue is a link!

No, that's not true because Gods Word proves that the gospel is awful because it has the stench of death. It's like approaching an unbeliever and telling them that a stinking corpse smells good.
You need to deal with the truth of the gospel.

2 Cor 2:15 To the one we are the aroma of death leading to death, and to the other the aroma of life leading to life.

There you have it in black and white.

Tom D · 2025-11-27T03:17:59-0600

For everything.

Dan1988 · 2025-11-27T03:10:40-0600

JulieB67 said:
Yeah, that'll teach him. I'm indoctrinated so let's just indoctrinate someone else. Just because someone is an "ordained" minister doesn't mean they have the truth. You're still young and maybe haven't realized that yet. Heck, even Jim Bakker admits he didn't even read the bible in it's entirety for the first time until he was in prison. Some of these bible colleges are just the blind leading the blind. Not all but again, we have to be careful. Even in the Bible, the people read the scriptures to see if what they were being taught was true. It's our own responsibility to do so.

Hopefully, you'll realize that one day.

There are a few big problem with your theory here. 1. You reject Gods order, by rejecting the Shepherd who God appointed and ordained to lead dumb sheep like myself. god ordains them and you reject Gods order at your own peril.

2. By rejecting them, you're claiming that they don't know the truth but you do. My Shepherd is a Professor of theology, he has reached the highest level of education. Can you even seen how rebellious and arrogant and ignorant it is to reject highly qualified teachers, and usurp that authority for yourself, while you have no qualifications at all and you've obviously never had any formal training.

There's nothing more dangerous, than self delusion. It makes you an easy target for the enemy.

Dan1988 · 2025-11-27T02:59:38-0600

SarahsKnight said:
Can you please show me where Jipsah said anything in the post you were quoting from him that sounded anything like he shuns God's order or design? Or are you again just making such a wild accusation because he disagrees with you not on who Jesus Christ is, that He is our Savior and died on the cross for our sins and raised from the dead, but disagrees with you on the nature of death and/or hell? You know, like you've already done multiple times with me, him, Julie, and probably numerous others outside of this thread?

Yeah, noticed how you quoted Scripture there, and it used the word death - NOT "eternal torment", "eternal conscious suffering", "spiritual death", etc.

Jipsah would never reveal what he actually believes. So he didn't say what I said in the same words, but it is to the same effect.
Who are you referring to, when you say "our Saviour died on the cross for our sins"????. Jesus never said He died for those who He casts into hell, that would be ridiculous, as it would make the Lord Jesus a liar. If He died to save someone, then He turns around and casts them into hell, it would mean that He is a evil liar.

Why haven't you or your friend ever revealed what you believe Gods Word is referring to when it speaks about death. according to your private, unbiblical opinion, death means "annihilation" or "cessation of existence", but none of these silly opinions are supported by any scripture. They are pure fantasy, and false doctrines or "demonic doctrines"

biblelesson · 2025-11-27T02:52:08-0600

BelieveItOarKnot said:
I just don't believe that's the case for multiple reasons. And I certainly don't believe God burns His Own children alive forever or eternally kills them. To me, that's out there. Demonic.

The reason this must happen has to do with,
1 Corinthians 15:35-37 KJV
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

And,
1 Corinthians 15:44 KJV
It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

What Apostle Paul is telling us is our fleshly body/natural body is like a seed that is planted, and produces another form.

All men who ever lived, their fleshly bodies will be spiritual bodies upon resurrection and will live forever - because they will be spiritual.

Then there will be a separation. Those who are not raised at Christ’s second coming, but who will face the white throne judgment, will be considered corrupted spiritual bodies who will live forever. But, they must be put in a place of punishment- God’s righteousness demands it. They cannot be allowed to roam around being corrupted and live forever. That’s the reason why man was put out of the garden after they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil - because, if they had not been put out in time, they would have eaten from the tree of life and lived forever- then God would have had to deal with corrupted beings that would have lived forever. So, it’s for that same reason. Something has to be done with those who will resurrect in spiritual bodies and who will live forever, but remain corrupt because they refused Christ and did not receive the Holy Spirit - the Spirit of life.

Those who are raised in Christ will be with Christ in the heavenly Jerusalem and live with Him forever.

The place of torture is explained. The fire in hell is the same fire that rained down from Heaven on Sodom and Gomorrah - fire and brimstone. Brimstone is sulfur - burning sulfur.

It is said several times in the Bible to cast them into outer darkness. Where is outer darkness? It’s the outer darkness that surrounds earth - the solar system, where the planets are.
Venus is a planet full of sulfuric gas and thick clouds of sulfuric acid.
Jupiter contains sulfur
Mercury contains sulfur
And other planets

From the way it seems, this is where those who will live forever, but have not accepted Christ, will go. It’s a place they will not be able to leave - they will be bound there forever (maybe based on that planet’s gravitational pull) - in a place burning with fire and brimstone called hell fire.

Can you imagine standing on Mars, a planet whose surface is only fire and burning sulfuric acid (fire and brimstone), raining down on you constantly, with sulfuric acid spitting out of volcanos, sulfuric acid rain, sulfuric acid tornadoes, etc.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-27T02:19:17-0600

d taylor said:
The real question is when sciences deceptions are show to be the deceptions they are. Will Christian's finally believe in God;s true creation or just like Israel's rejecting the Messiah when He came to earth.

The real question is, why are you writing such ridiculous, and slanderous, words? Why are you implying that Christians don't believe in God's creation?
Genesis 1 says that God created the heavens and the earth
Psalm 19:1 says that the heavens proclaim the glory of God.
Psalm 24:1 says that the earth is the Lord's and everything in it.
John 1:1-3 says that all things were created through the Word, Jesus. There is nothing that was not created by/through him.
Colossians 1:15-16 says that all things were created through him.
Hebrews 1:1-2 says that God made the universe, and all things, through Jesus.

You seem to be saying/implying that Christians who say that the earth is a globe, don't believe this.
Utter nonsense.
And don't even think of saying that we reject Jesus because we don't believe your flat earth fantasies.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-27T02:07:56-0600

Apple Sky said:
This is not calling you a liar.

Yes it is.
My statement was "I believe the earth is a globe and I believe Genesis 1."
Your reply; "you can't do." IOW, you don't accept my statement.
But I do. I didn't write the wrong thing or make a mistake. I'm telling you, I believe Genesis 1 and that the earth is a globe. It's perfectly possible to believe both..

Apple Sky said:
This is not calling you a liar.

Not in so many words.
But I believe the testimony of someone who walked on the moon. I believe the photos which you say are fake. I believe the books, articles and so on that you have dismissed as hearsay. I believe that all the things which you say are lies, are true.

It's interesting that you're pulling me up on the use of the word "liar" when you do the same thing.
You have said that Charles Duke, and the other astronauts who walked on the moon are liars. You haven't proved they lied, all you've shown is that you don't believe their eyewitness accounts.

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