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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

What record, where is the video of a 24 hour sun?

The people who live in the northern Polar regions there are the record. They experience it; it's called the midnight sun. Or you can even go to somewhere that experiences it yourself to see for yourself. Anywhere on the northern coast of Sweden is the best example. Or Iceland or Greenland.
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

anyone living in the northern polar regions knows that there are 24 hours of sun during certain months of the year. It's a recorded fact that cannot be explained by a flat Earth, but 100% explainable with a globe Earth.
What record, where is the video of a 24 hour sun?
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

There are not 24 hours of sun shown in the videos provided.

But anyone living in the northern polar regions knows that there are 24 hours of sun during certain months of the year. It's a recorded fact that cannot be explained by a flat Earth, but 100% explainable with a globe Earth.
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Why I might suspect there`s a god

Stopped reading at exactly that point.
I continued reading, so you don't have to.
:)
Sorry I can`t explain it better, scientists don`t explain much.
Scientists explain a great deal and they do this following exhaustive investigations and observations and experiments and reasoning and argument and critical thinking. And they review their investigations, refine their observations, repeat their experiments, justify their reasoning, dissect their arguments and question all their assumptions and speculations and provisional conclusions. Then, and only then, may they be in a position of having a theory.

It's good to have an imagination and good to use that imagination, but we can imagine many thinks that are not real. You have an interesting idea, the only thing wrong with it is that there is no evidence for it.
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

I'm welcome to view everything from a biblical perspective and so are you. If you don't accept the Bible, I'm sorry, I thought I was talking to a Christian.

I'm a Deist. It says so in the drop down menu under my username. And your Biblical perspective is strange, obscure and myopic, flying entirely in the face of what we know from God's creation. You're welcome to your personal perspective, but don't expect others to not take issue with it when you push it as the only way to see things.

Again: the Earth is not flat, studying God's own creation shows it to be round, as the original post in this thread shows. End of thread.
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Why I might suspect there`s a god

There was absolutely nothing and God. God is a spirit, pure consciousness without form. He was always there, even when there was nothing. From nothing, using just His consciousness, He caused water to start flowing from Himself, water is the first physical thing he created Proverbs 8:21-24 Genesis 1:1.

And the Spirit of God was hovering over the water......
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

I quoted exactly what he said, " breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truths protective layers. "
I like the way the spaces between the quotation marks and the words show how you cut and pasted an incomplete sentence to obscure the meaning.
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SO HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU ARE SAVED ??

Initially, you concluded that "I know that I am saved because I believe God sent His Son to save me if I believe in Him"

The use of past tense seems to indicate a present salvation, after you believe.
I was replying to Dan Perez question as to how I know that I am saved in the first reply.

1 Peter 1:3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. NKJV

I am begotten by God. I did not do any work to be saved.

Then you use this passage to conclude that you are rewarded when you "give a drink of water to the brethren of Jesus" and that reward is eternal life in heaven.

So eternal life require belief and this work?
Then I replied to BelieveItOarKnot of his comment that Jesus will reward those who give a cup of water to His brethren. The reward for blessing Jesus' brethren is the Matthew 25 judgment which corresponds to the Revelation white throne judgment. That judgment is for those who have blessed Jesus' brethren. None of us who are born of, adopted by, God will be judged at the white throne. Those of us who are born of God will live in heaven and have spiritual bodies. Those who enter eternal life from the white throne judgment will live on the new earth, not be allowed entry into heaven and still be flesh and blood. Yes, their work of blessing Jesus' brethren earned them a place on the new earth.
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

And you're welcome to do so. But don't expect anyone else to accept or agree with you
I'm welcome to view everything from a biblical perspective and so are you. If you don't accept the Bible, I'm sorry, I thought I was talking to a Christian.
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Who then can be saved?

The bible sates that faith is not of yourself, but it is the gift of God, lest anyone boast
My full stance is that Ephesians 2:8-9 has been edited. " it is " is an added in phrase, denoted as such with italics in most good Bibles.

For by grace you have been saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves. The Holy Spirit is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast. Because we are His workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works...

Repent and be baptized everyone one of you, for the remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38

....the Spirit of grace. Hebrews 10:29

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God Romans 10:17

Our ability to choose or think at all also comes from God.

Not by works of righteousness we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us BY the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost, which He shed in us abundantly through Jesus Christ our savior.
Titus 3:5-6
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Testing AI in Reading & Comprehension

AI is going to rate a story based on reviews it finds on the internet.

Not necessarily; chatGPT will evaluate a story based on its content. For example, it will evaluate and indeed sometimes offer suggestions on how to improve, unpublished works (usually with my works it prefers them as is, except for my villains in one story, who are arguably over the top, albeit not one dimensional, but who I myself have been tempted to tone down).
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The Lutheran Hail Mary and the Orthodox Angelic Salutation

How do you understand that phrase?

The Theotokos helps us in three ways - she prays on our behalf to Christ Pantocrator, and her prayers are known for efficacy, and also she points us to our Son and commands us to follow Him - we see both attributes on display during the Wedding Feast at Cana, and finally as the Mother of God, it is from her that Christ put on our human nature, facilitating our redemption, and indeed, the Gospel read at Marian feasts in the Eastern Orthodox Church it might surprise you to learn concludes with Luke 11:27-28, for indeed only our Glorious Lady Theotokos and Ever Virgin Mary, who is immaculate* managed to keep His commandments, but still required His salvation due to original sin, a salvation she obtained by virtue of risking her life to bear him.

Thus when we pray for her to save us, we are asking her to pray on her behalf, in recognition of the fact that she has pointed us to Her Son, our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ, commanding us to follow His instructions, and consequently those of the Father and Holy Spirit, the precious and life-giving Trinity, “ever One God” to use an elegant phrase from the Anglican hymnal, as is attested once more in the Gospel according to John, and the fact that she is the means by which the Only Begotten Son and Word of God became incarnate as the Son of Man for our salvation.

The efficacy of her prayers is demonstrated at the Wedding Feast in Cana, and also makes sense, in light of the fact that Our Lady had the most intimate relationship with God of any human, since the closest relationship any human can enjoy is with his or her own mother. Thus, the Theotokos is uniquely blessed, and will be held as blessed by all generations, for she as the Mother of God was and is closer to Him physically and emotionally than anyone else. This is also why on the occasion of her repose her body was assumed into Heaven on the feast of the Dormition - Rome may only have made this a dogma in 1955, but we Orthodox have regarded it as dogmatic since at least the fourth century, and likely much longer than that, for it has always been celebrated in our liturgy (everything celebrated in the Orthodox liturgy is dogmatic, on the basis of Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi, an approach also theoretically followed by the Anglicans, which is one of many reasons why historically there have been such good relations between the Orthodox and Anglicans, although one could argue varying degrees of churchmanship compromise this in Anglicanism by resulting in the same liturgical text having multiple interpretations depending on the churchmanship of the reader; I would argue that a prayer book is like the Bible, in that what St. Isidore of Seville said certainly applies - the meaning ultimately is in the interpretation, not the reading, since the right Scripture wrongly interpreted is still wrong, as demonstrated by the Arians for example, who managed to somehow read John ch. 1 and not interpret it as speaking of the Incarnation of Christ (a phenomenon we also encounter among some contemporary Christians, who usually are not Christologically neo-Arian but in some cases are, who seem to think that John ch. 1 is speaking about the Bible).

* The Orthodox do not deny that she is immaculate; we reject rather the immaculate conception, because this puts the Theotokos in a different ontological condition than the rest of the humanity and in our view this compromises the doctrine of the Incarnation, since we believe that Christ saved us by restoring our fallen human nature by glorifying us through His Incarnation, Baptism, Transfiguration, Passion and Resurrection, most especially on the Holy and Life Giving Cross where on the sixth day, he remade man in His own image, before reposing in a tomb on the seventh, thus just as the womb of the Theotokos once contained Him who is boundless and uncircumscribed, likewise the Holy Sepulchre contained Christ our God on the Seventh Day when He reposed - before His glorious resurrection, the true meaning of the Sabbath - also for this reason the Orthodox venerate the Theotokos and pray for our departed loved ones on Saturday. Indeed for us every Saturday is in some respects like All Souls Day in the Roman Catholic Church, but several saturdays throughout the year are dedicated as Soul Saturdays.

The Saturday preceding All Saints Day, the Sunday following Pentecost, which for us is a feast both of the descent of the Holy Spirit and of the Holy Trinity (this likely being one of several examples where the Western church took a compound feast such as the Epiphany and split it into two feasts, and more recently with the separation of Epiphany Sunday from the feast of the Baptism of our Lord in the 1969 Missal, into three; of course, everyone went along with the separation of the Nativity and Theophany (the feast of the Epiphany, the Baptism of our Lord) except for the Armenians, who alone continue to celebrate them together on the eve and the day of January 6th (thus the Armenians in Jerusalem who, like all Hagiopolitan Orthodox, use the Julian calendar rather than the Gregorian, are the last to celebrate the Nativity, on January 18th and 19th).
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

Cars are in Daniel 12.

No they're not.

Revelation 18:23 for the "medicine".

Nothing in there at all about medicine.

Voting and such would be covered by Romans 13.

No, that's Paul talking about Christian behaviour, not the act of voting itself.

We should view everything from a biblical perspective as Christians, letting it dictate what we consider to be true and good.

And you're welcome to do so. But don't expect anyone else to accept or agree with you.
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

neither is the internet, cars, antibiotic medicine, basic painkillers, voting, basic human rights and all manner of things we use today. They're not of the Bible. Is using and accepting those believing in the anti-Christ too?


Cars are in Daniel 12.
Revelation 18:23 for the "medicine".
Voting and such would be covered by Romans 13. We should view everything from a biblical perspective as Christians, letting it dictate what we consider to be true and good.
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

Yes exactly, he was not talking very poetically, he was talking to people, actually to attempt to remove those protective layers around, truth.

And, surprise surprise, you can still use poetic language when you talk to people. Which is what Neil Armstrong was doing; he was using poetic language.
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

Believing in the anti Christ deception does. Those who go completely along with what the world preaches, will be deceived by the coming antichrist. The idea that the earth is a globe is of the world not of the Bible, as shown in this thread.

And neither is the internet, cars, antibiotic medicine, basic painkillers, voting, basic human rights and all manner of things we use today. They're not of the Bible. Is using and accepting those believing in the anti-Christ too?
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

No, he's not talking to me or you, he's talking to a group of people wanting to join NASA. Again: context
Yes exactly, he was not talking very poetically, he was talking to people, actually to attempt to remove those protective layers around, truth.
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

Does your salvation REALLY hinge on the world being round or flat? Is your soul REALLY at stake for saying the Earth is round?
Believing in the anti Christ deception does. Those who go completely along with what the world preaches, will be deceived by the coming antichrist. The idea that the earth is a globe is of the world not of the Bible, as shown in this thread.
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

Sure his words are a little poetic, but also clear, we leave you much that is undone...there are... breakthroughs are available to those (in context, you) who can remove one of truths protective layers.

No, he's not talking to me or you, he's talking to a group of people wanting to join NASA. Again: context. (Which you're going to spin out of context if 5... 4... 3... 2.. 1...)
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

Poetic language
Sure his words are a little poetic, but also clear, we leave you much that is undone...there are... breakthroughs are available to those (in context, you) who can remove one of truths protective layers.
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

No it does not, like this thread shows, your arguments will shatter. The creation shows the truth of God's word. The globe model is Satan's great deception leading to the days of the beast and false prophet. Revelation 13:6 Daniel 8:10,12

Nothing has been shattered, and this thread has shown only that you'll repeat Bible verses until you're blue in the face. All that's doing is showing that you can quote Bible verses.

Does your salvation REALLY hinge on the world being round or flat? Is your soul REALLY at stake for saying the Earth is round?
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

And yet God's own creation, that has been studied for centuries from all points of the compass, shows that the Earth is a round globe
No it does not, like this thread shows, your arguments will shatter. The creation shows the truth of God's word. The globe model is Satan's great deception leading to the days of the beast and false prophet. Revelation 13:6 Daniel 8:10,12
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