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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

Adults can make their own decisions. Just leave minors alone and out of it.

I think that’s a fair compromise.
And when a minor seeks help because they have these feelings they don't understand, should we just ignore them, or tell them to come back when they're 21?

Kids have issues, and they need someone to talk to about them, someone who understands their issues and can help.

-- A2SG, these feelings don't just go away until their 21st birthday....
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

Yes. We learned how many people have been harmed by this ideology.
And others have been helped by it. Why ignore them? I'd wager that those who have been helped by gender affirming care outnumber those who were harmed by it (I know a lot of anecdotal evidence that suggests such), but if you have actual data counter to that, I'd be curious to see it.

Telling impressionable children they were born in the wrong body only causes immense harm.
No one's telling kids that. If a kid expresses that they have that feeling, it can be, and should be, discussed with someone who understands what they might be going through and can help guide them through it, but I've never heard of anyone telling a kid that apropos of nothing. It's a strawman, pure and simple.

-- A2SG, who are these people going up to random kids and just telling them how they should feel about their own bodies anyway....
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CHRISTMAS CARDS?

Do people still send Christmas cards? Some years I sent 70. At any rate I always sent several cards. Now I'm blessed if I receive two. Are cards a thing of the past? I have some boxes of beautiful cards and i hate to throw them away. I also miss receiving them. Can someone enlighten me about this custom?
I think the number of cards my wife and I receive has dropped from 70 plus, to 50 plus in recent years. Some of this is because some of the senders have died. We still send about 60 cards.
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B flat B♭

Apart from the globe, evolution is the next biggest lie, I've never seen a monkey change into a human being, well not yet anyhow.
Don't tar all scientists with the same brush. There are scientists who do not believe in evolution. They believe that God created the various "kinds" of animals and plants, and although various breeds of (for example) dogs have developed within the "dog kind," they remain dogs. Praise God for such scientists, and pray for them as they witness to the truth of God's Creation.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

So the risk of suicide is almost double in veterans than in older gender minority adults. That is a good argument to avoid the military I guess.


In the longitudinal studies comparing pre- and post-surgery risk collated in this review, the risk for suicide are reduced after gender affirming surgery.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/26318318231189836

However the risk is still elevated compared to the population in general, but that is not strange. Living as a trans persons is of course another potential hardship.
Adults can make their own decisions. Just leave minors alone and out of it.

I think that’s a fair compromise.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

We learned stuff.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

-- A2SG, people don't always fit into the tidy boxes some want them to....
Yes. We learned how many people have been harmed by this ideology. Telling impressionable children they were born in the wrong body only causes immense harm.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

I'm well aware of that. The point this exchange derived from was that homosexual experimentation causes psychological damage, and that's far from demonstrable.

Sexual orientation isn't a choice, as you've noted, and even if someone chooses to experiment with a different orientation, the likelihood is they'll find it doesn't work for them, and they'll eventually settle on the one that's right for them. There is no evidence that this kind of activity necessarily results in psychological damage. Perhaps it might in certain specific cases, due to other issues, but for the vast majority of people, they're attracted to who they're attracted to, and they can't make themselves attracted to someone they're not. Which, as I noted, is why conversion therapy doesn't work.

-- A2SG, and I personally believe that anyone who has an opinion about someone else's sexual orientation should keep it to themselves.....
I don’t disagree at all.
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The Biblical Basis of 10 Catholic Distinctives

The Baptists have already won this argument a long time ago by one simple trick: THEY REDEFINE THE HISTORICAL DEFINITION OF "HOUSEHOLD" from all those living under the same roof regardless of age to only adults unless the Biblical text says there are children present. Do not believe this.

So how do we interpret Scripture here? We ask the diagnostic question(s): 1) Do the words and grammar of Scripture determine theological content and belief? 2) Or does your theological belief determine what words should mean in Scripture?

Clearly and plainly, Baptists use interpretative principle #2 when defining the word "household" due to their anti-paedo beliefs. By fiat, Baptists just declare a household can not have children living in them UNLESS THE TEXT SAYS CHILDREN ARE PRESENT! Pure eisegesis but this interpretation emotionally satisfies the Baptist belief in credobaptism. This is interpretive cheating.

Household baptisms scripturally are born from Peter's words....this promise is to you and your children (Acts 2:39). Baptists seem to ignore this passage of Scripture. A household is basically everyone leaving under the same roof regardless of age. A Baptist interpret a household as everyone leaving under the same roof except those under the Age of Accountability. How bogus!

The Merriam-Webster Dictionary definition of a household 1) those who dwell under the same roof and compose a family 2)a social unit composed of those living together in the same dwelling. And certainly the legal definition of a household: A household is composed of one or more people who occupy a housing unit. Tax filer + spouse + tax dependents = household. But of course the credo's discount this also.

The Scriptural definition of a household includes both children and servants .
  • I Tim 3:12 A deacon must be faithful to his wife and must manage his children (τέκνων) and his household (οἴκων) well.
  • I Tim 3:4 [A shepherd] must be one who manages his own household (οἴκου) well, keeping his children (τέκνα) under control with all dignity.
One passage of Scripture which gives the credos harsh criticism is I Tim. 5:8.
  • "But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.”
  • Paul is clearly talking to believers here because only a believer can become worse than an unbeliever.
  • Is Paul saying here because children are not specifically mentioned in this passage, Christian parents are exempt from providing for their smallest and youngest children?
  • Nonsense. As is the same with credo's redefining words of Scripture to match their theological bias and a futile attempt to EXPLAIN AWAY paedobaptism altogether from Scripture.
Well? It did develop over time, but there is plenty of evidence of children being baptized as early as the 2nd century.

Baptism replaced circumcision, which was done on 8 day old male Jewish babies, but in this case, baptism is for ALL.

Baptism saves. It DOES something and is a means of grace. It’s ALWAYS been connected with the forgiveness of sins.

It’s not ONLY symbolic.
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JD Vance responds to Pope Leo's comments about immigration policy

It's hard to take a man surrounded by a giant stone wall seriously when he's asking us to open our borders. It's hard to take people who lock their house doors in gated, elitist communities seriously when they ask us to allow immigrants, illegal and otherwise, to flood our towns. Open borders brings sex trafficking, child abuse, murders, rapes, drug addiction and overdose deaths, a strain on resources (such as housing and medical), and countless other issues. I don't think the Pope's message was intentionally obtuse so much as it was not knowing the right way to serve all people in the best way possible. It's an impossibly difficult thing from a faith perspective, but a rather straightforward and easy thing politically (shut it down, figure out your own country).
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Pro's and con's of using AI in political debate.

I don’t really care what ai knows. I care what people think. That’s why I come to discussion boards. AI doesn’t have any better insight into your opinion than I can try to guess on my own.
Fair enough.

OCCASIONALLY, folks want something different than to know what others think. SOMETIMES, folks want information or analysis.

And yes, many of us like to point to references that show why we say something. I look to AI several times a day; to Google, ALEXA and my car's navigation system, as well as other places.
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OPTION ONE
I could choose not to post an AI analysis from Google that uses hundreds of sites before consolidating and giving an analysis.

OPTION TWO
I could choose only to refer folks to single sources.

OPTION THREE
I could choose only to give my own opinions without giving sources supporting my conclusions.
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Personally, I am capable of evaluating an analysis of a poster. Personally, I don't give much credence to I saw this one speaker or study on the internet as supporting evidence, unless I know the source. And yes, the consolidated conclusions are more likely to be better support than a single source.
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"Don't Give up the Ship"

Why would anyone expect the president to be as smart as the White House lawyers in crafting Executive Branch documentation?
I don't think an understanding of his positions limits and what kind of things constitute illegal orders is a high bar to set, if even a one. Just feels like you don't expect anything of him.
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