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RabbiJames · 2025-11-25T19:12:02-0600

Here's an idea for this coming Thursday's Thanksgiving time. You're around the table, either for lunch or dinner. Your guests are there, and who knows what they will want to talk about. But YOU are the host. You get to pick the "table topic." When everyone has had their share of roast turkey, stuffing, cranberry sauce, mashed potatoes, and corn, before serving the dessert, have them read and share their take on "10 Bible verses" connected with "giving thanks." What do these verses tell you? How do you personally relate to these verses?

If you have 10 guests, each guest gets a verse. If there are 5 guests, each one gets 2 verses. Do the math, divide up the verses, and let that be the "Table Talk" before dessert.

1 Thessalonians 5:18; Psalm 100:4; Psalm 9:1; Psalm 7:17 1 Chronicles 16:34; Philippians 4:6; Colossians 3:15; 4:2; Psalm 50:14

2 Corinthians 4:15; 1 Corinthians 15:57

RabbiJames · 2025-11-25T19:08:44-0600

Here's an idea for this coming Thursday's Thanksgiving time. You're around the table, either for lunch or dinner. Your guests are there, and who knows what they will want to talk about. But YOU are the host. You get to pick the "table topic." When everyone has had their share of roast turkey, stuffing, cranberry sauce, mashed potatoes, and corn, before serving the dessert, have them read and share their take on "10 Bible verses" connected with "giving thanks." What do these verses tell you? How do you personally relate to these verses?

If you have 10 guests, each guest gets a verse. If there are 5 guests, each one gets 2 verses. Do the math, divide up the verses, and let that be the "Table Talk" before dessert.

1 Thessalonians 5:18; Psalm 100:4; Psalm 9:1; Psalm 7:17 1 Chronicles 16:34; Philippians 4:6; Colossians 3:15; 4:2; Psalm 50:14

2 Corinthians 4:15; 1 Corinthians 15:57

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-11-25T19:02:34-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Trump Canceling GDP Report Comes Under Scrutiny
The U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis said on Monday that it has canceled the release of its advance estimate of third-quarter GDP. [And no future release date has been set.]

The department said the release was being canceled due to disruption caused by the federal government shutdown, but the announcement has sparked criticism and speculation that the report is being held because of disappointing data.

Thanks for keeping up on this.

d taylor · 2025-11-25T18:56:21-0600

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Science does nothing but lie about God's creation from the globe lie to the evolution lie and whatever future lies they come up with.

FenderTL5 · 2025-11-25T18:55:05-0600

probinson said:
I read what you said just fine. You said that the ACA lowered costs. It did not. You are demonstrably wrong. In fact in my case, after the ACA was passed, the rate of increase of my healthcare costs accelerated vs. how much it had increased in prior years.

You're hanging your hat on the unverifiable claim that the ACA reduced the rate of healthcare cost increase. But neither you, nor I, nor anyone else has any idea how much or how quickly the rate of increase would have been without the ACA. That is a counterfactual that literally NO ONE can know, because it didn't happen. The whole of your "lower costs" assertion rests on this unknown.

I suppose it's easier to pretend like the recipients of your message are incapable of understanding what you've written than it is to admit that you're just plain wrong.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

Are you getting your insurance via the ACA? That is via the exchange either with or without a subsidy?

timewerx · 2025-11-25T18:52:14-0600

Larniavc said:
When has that ever been the case? Must be a huge waste of money to ever advertise anything ever if there is more profit in something that no one knows anything about.

Sigh.

IP (Intellectual Property) is more precious than you realize. If a tech give you a capability nobody else has, you can sell that capability instead as a service while maintaining the use of such tech in secret. You maintain full control of your IP.

Such use eliminates competition, eliminates cheap knock-offs. You'll have far greater freedom you can set your price.

I've worked data analytics for retailers selling their own products (including big brands) most my life. Most of the unrealized sales is attributed to cheap Chinese knockoffs and you can't beat the manufacturing capacity of China. Not yet anyway. And because of competition, the profit margins are kept small. All these factors result to high sensitivity to market fluctuations which is bad. Many big retailers go bankrupt and they're not run by stupid people. Retailing is just difficult and Trump is making things even harder.

I don't possess any game-changing tech yet. But if I had, the growth projections can't ever be matched by retailing even if everything went right with retailing.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-25T18:51:27-0600

Landon Caeli said:
I'm not surprised that Tucker Carlson gave Fuentes the interview. Honestly, it's like two peas in a pod.

But as far as Mike Johnson's statement, the facts say otherwise.

Reported just days ago:
Flash Report: Claims of Nick Fuentes’ Growing Popularity Are Unsupported by Data - Open Measures

Snort. The Claim on the table was

"Fuentes broadcasts his flaws publicly, and his messages are amplified by those on the right."

From your source:

Nick Fuentes, an online personality known for his racist and antisemitic views, has elicited renewed interest from national news publications and political figures in recent months, exemplified by a series of his appearances on podcasts popular with right-wing audiences

probinson · 2025-11-25T18:48:13-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
The only people who aren't "getting" anything are you and @probinson who misread what I've said.

I read what you said just fine. You said that the ACA lowered costs. It did not. You are demonstrably wrong. In fact in my case, after the ACA was passed, the rate of increase of my healthcare costs accelerated vs. how much it had increased in prior years.

You're hanging your hat on the unverifiable claim that the ACA reduced the rate of healthcare cost increase. But neither you, nor I, nor anyone else has any idea how much or how quickly the rate of increase would have been without the ACA. That is a counterfactual that literally NO ONE can know, because it didn't happen. The whole of your "lower costs" assertion rests on this unknown.

I suppose it's easier to pretend like the recipients of your message are incapable of understanding what you've written than it is to admit that you're just plain wrong.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

RileyG · 2025-11-25T18:48:02-0600

Fascinating!

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-25T18:45:52-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Would you believe the Speaker of the House?

Johnson: Carlson interview with Fuentes was a ‘big mistake’
House Speaker Mike Johnson said Tucker Carlson’s decision to interview white supremacist Nick Fuentes on his podcast last month was a “big mistake.”

“He has a lot of listeners, and I think giving Nick Fuentes that platform is a big mistake,” the Louisiana Republican told The Hill in an interview publishedTuesday.

“I mean, it’s not just antisemitic, it’s openly racist, it’s violent — things you can’t even repeat on the House floor,” Johnson said. “We should not be giving a platform to amplify those views. And I think that’s important for us to say.”

I'm not surprised that Tucker Carlson gave Fuentes the interview. Honestly, it's like two peas in a pod.

But as far as Mike Johnson's statement, the facts say otherwise.

Reported just days ago:
Flash Report: Claims of Nick Fuentes’ Growing Popularity Are Unsupported by Data - Open Measures

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-11-25T18:44:08-0600

“We recognize that nations have a responsibility to regulate their borders and establish a just and orderly immigration system for the sake of the common good. Without such processes, immigrants face the risk of trafficking and other forms of exploitation. Safe and legal pathways serve as an antidote to such risks.”

Vambram · 2025-11-25T18:41:23-0600

Vambram said:
Comey, James Escape Justice For Now Thanks To 'Partisan Judge'

"This abuse of judicial power was aided by the legislative branch," legal analyst Keith Gross told The Federalist.

thefederalist.com

I agree with Keith Gross and Mike Davis.

Vambram · 2025-11-25T18:40:33-0600

Richard T said:
Karoline Leavitt dishes out lies and insults at the White House – Baptist News Global

Infamous for his own trail of lies, Trump has a press secretary following in his wake both as a liar and as a crude name-caller.

baptistnews.com

BBC ‘100% fake news’, says Donald Trump’s press secretary

Comments by Karoline Leavitt follow allegations that Panorama documentary misled viewers with its editing of a Trump speech

www.theguardian.com

https://people.com/karoline-leavitt-tells-reporter-trump-s-piggy-insult-shows-he-s-respectful-11854064

Everyone lies, it is part of our sin nature. Some just lie more than others. Psychologists have studied this enough that most psych tests will have questions on lying. Answer that you never lie may get your pre-employment application thrown out.

The above may show ignorance, hyperbole but perhaps not purposeful lies? Like the BBC is 100% fake news. Anyway, as to the case, from what I read it was quite legal. Not every court is political
A true progressive judge would have likely dismissed to where it can not be tried again. They did a favor to Trump because the insurance lawyer with no trial experience was losing the case.
Here is just one excerpt from google ai on this judge.
"U.S. District Judge Cameron McGowan Currie is considered
highly qualified and is widely respected in the legal community for her extensive experience, procedural rigor, and knowledge of the law."

Comey, James Escape Justice For Now Thanks To 'Partisan Judge'

"This abuse of judicial power was aided by the legislative branch," legal analyst Keith Gross told The Federalist.

thefederalist.com

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-11-25T18:38:17-0600

U.S. Bishops Issue a “Special Message” on Immigration from Plenary Assembly in Baltimore

The bishops issued a Special Message addressing their concern for the evolving situation impacting immigrants in the United States. It marked the first time ...

www.usccb.org

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-25T18:34:03-0600

"The human brain isn’t a blank slate waiting to be written by experience, according to research that challenges the century-old Tabula Rasa theory. The study shows that neurons grown in laboratory dishes spontaneously organize into precise firing sequences that resemble those seen in developing mouse brains, suggesting our neural circuits arrive pre-configured with computational architecture long before we experience the world.

The question of whether brains are shaped primarily by nature or nurture has occupied philosophers and scientists since at least the 17th century, when John Locke proposed the mind as a “tabula rasa” or blank slate. Modern neuroscience has largely assumed that while basic brain structures are genetically determined, the precise firing patterns that encode information must be learned through experience.

This study provides direct evidence against that"

Brain Cells Come Pre-Programmed, Challenging Century-Old 'Blank Slate' Theory

Lab-grown brain cells fire in precise sequences without sensory input, showing the brain isn't a blank slate.

studyfinds.org

sjastro · 2025-11-25T18:33:25-0600

stevevw said:
But it certainly is not a cold, hard factual thread of just objective science but also of philsophy of science. Otherwise all it would be doing in doubling down on the idea that it is the material science that is partly to blame for creating the flaw in the narrative by pushing this worldview over all else in this thread. It becomes another situation dominated by one methodology and epistemics in how we should see the world.

Partly. Like I said you could look at the things they made and if the ancients did use say chemistry and messing around with the physics of material nature. If the ancients knowledge came from their belief and experiences how would you prove this.

We could perhaps prove the out of place signature is real and was caused by some sort of machining. We could prove the ancients purposely designed the pyramids to generate some sort of energy they used.

But you will not ever believe that this was the result of some transcedent knowledge.

So it is better to prove that there is transcedent knoewledge before trying to show in in specific examples that your never going to believe and will always want a material and scientific explanation for.

Material science is not some philosophical argument it is an actual science, I was a materials scientist working in forensic engineering.
Here is a case history of a head on car collision where the steering column disintegrated on impact impaling and killing the driver.
It is all about gathering evidence from various sources and forming a conclusion from the evidence.

Stage / Group	Sequence of Responsibilities
1. Police / Accident Investigators	- Arrive first and secure the crash scene- Coordinate emergency response- Collect initial evidence (photos, measurements, witness statements)- Retrieve vehicle data if available- Begin preliminary accident reconstruction- Notify the coroner/medical examiner when fatalities occur
2. Coroner / Medical Examiner	- Take custody of the deceased- Conduct autopsy and toxicology- Determine medical cause of death- Document injury patterns- Issue death certificate
3. Forensic Pathologists	- Perform detailed trauma and injury analysis- Assess whether injuries match collision dynamics- Provide findings to police and reconstruction experts- Offer expert testimony if required
4. Crash Reconstruction Experts	- Reconstruct crash mechanics using physics, scene evidence, and vehicle data- Determine speeds, trajectories, impact sequence, and forces- Link mechanical events to injury outcomes- Produce formal reports for investigators and insurers
5. Manufacturers / Forensic Engineering / Material Science	- Investigate suspected component, structural, or material failures- Conduct materials and metallurgical analysis (fracture, fatigue, corrosion)- Assess design, manufacturing, or maintenance-related defects- Provide engineering reports for investigators or insurers

The same principles apply to the investigation of ancient tooling to produce vases, stone blocks, statues, casing stones etc where evidence is gathered from various disciplines to form a conclusion.

Stage / Group	Sequence of Responsibilities
1. Archaeologists / Field Excavators	- Identify and document workshop remains, unfinished artifacts, tool marks, and quarry sites- Record context, stratigraphy, and dating- Collect samples of stone, residues, and copper fragments- Photograph and map tool marks and manufacturing traces
2. Egyptologists / Textual & Iconographic Analysts	- Examine reliefs, inscriptions, and tomb scenes depicting craft activities- Interpret terms for tools, materials, and workshop processes- Compare evidence across Old Kingdom sites (e.g., Giza, Saqqara, Abu Rawash)
3. Materials Analysts / Microscopy & Petrography Specialists	- Use optical microscopy, SEM, and thin-section petrography to study tool marks- Analyze abrasive residues (quartz sand, emery, corundum, etc.)- Determine stone composition (granite, diorite, schist, limestone) and hardness- Characterize copper alloy composition and hardness (pure copper vs arsenical copper)
4. Experimental Archaeologists	- Reproduce cutting, drilling, sawing, turning, and polishing using period-appropriate materials- Test copper saws, tube drills, bow drills, chisels, pounding stones, and sand abrasives- Document resulting tool marks for comparison with ancient surfaces- Assess labor time, wear rates, and practical feasibility of techniques
5. Engineering / Mechanics & Tribology Researchers	- Model cutting forces, abrasion mechanics, and tool–stone interactions- Quantify material removal rates using copper tools with added abrasives- Analyze efficiency of rotational drilling (tube drills), sawing, and pounding methods- Compare mechanical signatures with archaeological marks (striations, grooves, kerfs)
6. Forensic Archaeologists / Comparative Analysts	- Match experimentally produced tool marks with ancient examples- Evaluate consistency of patterns (circular striations, sawing kerfs, drill holes)- Identify whether the observed evidence fits known Old Kingdom techniques- Rule out or confirm exotic or anachronistic tool hypotheses
7. Synthesis by Interdisciplinary Research Teams	- Integrate archaeological, experimental, chemical, and engineering data- Produce coherent models explaining how specific artifacts (vases, sarcophagi, granite blocks) were manufactured- Publish findings for peer review and comparison with other sites and periods

By comparison we have a bicycle parts manufacturer claiming the striation patterns on vase fragments were not produced by known ancient Egyptian tooling or an engineer who thinks the pyramids could not have been built but were also power sources, none of which is evidence based but personal opinion.
Lets disguise this by bringing transcedent (sic) knowledge into the picture which ultimately explains nothing.

I'm sure the family of the crash victim would take greater solace in knowing the circumstances of the accident was based on the evidence rather than some unknown transcendent mechanism.

Yarddog · 2025-11-25T18:33:20-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
It can and does with appropriate legislation to protect workers.

And Socialism has worked.

Oompa Loompa said:
I still think it is amazing how liberals are now out in the open about how they really feel about socialism.

I think that it is amazing how closed minded right wingers are. Many think that they understand a subject but show how little they know when they respond. They condemn Socialism but embrace it because they don't understand their own system.

Dan Perez · 2025-11-25T18:32:47-0600

CLEEB said:
Jesus was not of the priesthood of Aaron / Levitical but of Melchizedek. Hebrews 7:7 You attempt to connect what Jesus did with the Levitical system will not apply. If Jesus was on Earth today he would not be a priest. Hebrews 8:4 Jesus could not even be a priest under the law because he came from Judah not Levi. You have your wires crossed and your comment has short circuited.

Maybe your wires. are not there. ??

Read Heb 5:6-14 , PLEASE as I have to go as I am at work !!

Christ will be a HIGH . PRIEST DURING THE MILLENNIAL KINGDOM

dan p

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-11-25T18:30:54-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
If Trump was a fascist, Mandami would not have been able to step foot in the White House, much less have a meeting with the President. Mandami knew that, which is why he went to Trump, begging for the federal funding.

Why was the president withholding federal funds?

Studyman · 2025-11-25T18:30:36-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
To be fair- I do not recall ever calling only the Ten Commandments as moral. I believe anything God deems as righteous is moral

I agree, but that is the posters position that I was responded to. I know you consider other Laws of God as moral, as your recent posts have shown. I didn't mean to suggest you didn't. Sorry if my post seemed like I did.

SabbathBlessings said:
and He singly isolated the Sabbath as such saying its doing justice and righteousness and blessed be the man who keeps from defiling the Sabbath Isa56:1-2 , so when man chooses to claim the Sabbath commandment that He blessed and sanctified is not moral which than makes it amoral puts them in a place as equal to God to determine this- which is why I believe God relates breaking the Sabbath as idol worship. Eze20:16 replacing what God commanded, with what we want to do as we are told whoever we obey is who we serve. Rom6:16 If we are not serving God which He again relates to keeping the Sabbath Isa56:6 who then is one serving.

I agree that the "Way of the Lord" includes respect, honor and obedience towards His Sanctified and Holy Sabbath, which HE made for men.

SabbathBlessings said:
I do however believe the Ten Commandments sits on a different foundation than the other laws, because God only placed the Ten Commandments under His mercy seat Exo25:21 and no more were added Deut5:22. I think there is a big difference between God Himself divinely writing something and laws God gave man that man wrote- hence why the ones that were handwritten by Moses on paper as it fades, were outside the ark Deut31:24-26, while the Ten Commandments, the Testimony of God written by the Holy Spirit on stone, is inside the ark of the Lord. Exo40:20 I believe there is not a law of Moses that we should keep that doesn't fit under one of the Ten Commandments the way Jesus expanded upon them Isa42:21 Mat5:17-30

I don't agree that the importance of God's Law is determined by the manner in which HE gives them. Abraham and Sodom both had God's Laws delivered to them. And the punishment for rejecting them, or blessings for submitting to them wasn't based on the manner in which God's Laws were given.

I don't believe there exists a LAW of God that isn't directly tied to how to Love Him and honor Him will all our heart and soul, (Exodus 20) or how to love others or how to love ourselves. (Lev. 19)

But it's a commitment men must make from their own heart, who is God and who is not

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-25T18:29:40-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Fuentes broadcasts his flaws publicly, and his messages are amplified by those on the right.

Landon Caeli said:
You have no evidence to prove that

Would you believe the Speaker of the House?

Johnson: Carlson interview with Fuentes was a ‘big mistake’

House Speaker Mike Johnson said Tucker Carlson’s decision to interview white supremacist Nick Fuentes on his podcast last month was a “big mistake.”

“He has a lot of listeners, and I think giving Nick Fuentes that platform is a big mistake,” the Louisiana Republican told The Hill in an interview publishedTuesday.

“I mean, it’s not just antisemitic, it’s openly racist, it’s violent — things you can’t even repeat on the House floor,” Johnson said. “We should not be giving a platform to amplify those views. And I think that’s important for us to say.”

RileyG · 2025-11-25T18:28:19-0600

Rescued One said:
Do people still send Christmas cards? Some years I sent 70. At any rate I always sent several cards. Now I'm blessed if I receive two. Are cards a thing of the past? I have some boxes of beautiful cards and i hate to throw them away. I also miss receiving them. Can someone enlighten me about this custom?

Sometimes we get photos of the family. Rarely, do we get updates or old fashioned cards. Maybe it's becoming rare nowadays?

It's a nice gesture, though.

Yarddog · 2025-11-25T18:27:05-0600

Landon Caeli said:
AI bots cannot be good or evil? Because they don't have a conscience?

And?

Bradskii · 2025-11-25T18:23:57-0600

RileyG said:
Good observation. Historically, it appears they are/were Christian based, therefore monotheists. So saying 'a God' is unnecessary, and a bit odd. IMO.

(There is also a LDS (Mormon) Branch. And LDS/Mormons are accused by some to be polytheists, but that is not the nature of this thread, so I won't derail it).

I still remember the Scout Promise I had to make:

'I promise to be good, to do my duty to God and the Queen, to help other people at all times and to obey the Scout Law'.

It would certainly sound odd to say it under US rules:

''I promise to be good, to do my duty to a god and a queen...'

The FSM (all hail it's noodly appendages) and Lattifa perhaps.

RileyG · 2025-11-25T18:22:12-0600

Glory to God! May God bless them with many more priestly and religious vocations! Amen!

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