Apple Sky said:

Laugh all you like.

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I certainly am.

essentialsaltes said:

2 of 3 men who disrupted Muslim prayer at USF identified, police file hate crime charges​

Police said they filed hate crime charges against Christopher Svochak, 40, of Waco, Texas, and Richard Penskoski, 49, of Canyon, Oklahoma. Both have known local addresses in the Tampa Bay area, but no affiliation with USF, according to officials.

Police filed charges against Svochak and Penskosk under Florida State Statute 871.071 for disturbing schools and religious assemblies — which will be upgraded to a felony hate crime. They also filed charges for disorderly conduct and disrupting a school or lawful assembly.

The two men, and the unidentified third suspect, are associated with “the official street preachers.” In a statement, they said they were exercising their constitutional right to preach and speak against Islam.

Cell phone video captured the moment the three men confronted the group of students. The Muslim Students Association at USF said the men shouted slurs at them, waved bacon, and mocked their sacred rituals.

In one clip, a man could be heard saying, “You guys don’t have any bombs on you do you.” Another clip showed one of the men saying, “Spit on Muhammed’s name, he is a scum bag, just like all you Muslim terrorist.” It all lasted about 13 minutes.

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Saw this on the TikTok machine…half thought that it was a “bit”, seeings as how OTT the haranguing was.

Stopped_lurking said:

How would the T be covered by "porneia", or did you only mean the others? I recognize that the A was not part of what you answered, but do you believe that would also be covered by "porneia", if so how? I'm not even sure the Q would be covered, I guess it would depend if the person using it means in a sexual way rather than a identity marker.

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Sexual immorality applies to gender norms as well as directly sexual activity. The T is covered because it is a perversion for men to masquerade as women or women to masquerade as men.

A probably wouldn't be covered, and in many cases would be encouraged. Q depends on how we understand it, though it likely would fall under the whole 'male and female He made them" issue regarding sexual morals.

essentialsaltes said:

Op/Ed: ICE is grabbing U.S. citizens, defying its own rules and the Constitution​

Dayanne Figueroa was on her way to work in Chicago last month when she drove onto a street where an immigration enforcement action was in progress. As she attempted to drive around the chaos, an unmarked vehicle collided with her car. Masked men jumped out of the vehicle, guns drawn and dragged Figueroa from her car by her legs. She was thrown into a minivan, taken away and held by Immigration and Customs Enforcement for hours. Dayanne Figueroa is an American citizen.

Figueroa’s case is not an isolated incident. The nonprofit newsroom ProPublica hasdocumented more than 170 cases of U.S. citizens, mostly Latinos, being detained at raids and protests since January.

The wrongful arrest of U.S. citizens by immigration agents is not new; it happened under Presidents Biden and Obama, and during President Trump’s first term. What is new is that Homeland Security and ICE are dramatically ramping up enforcement actions, while operating with less oversight than in the past. This has resulted in greater potential for mistakes — and for more traumatized or injured Americans.

The government denies that these episodes are happening. “There’s no American citizens that have been arrested or detained,” Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said in October. “[Her statement] also is contradicted by Homeland Security press releases explaining why some citizens have been arrested or detained.

When citizens are arrested by immigration agents, it is frequently on the grounds of assaulting or impeding officers. The ProPublica report, however, found that such charges often were dismissed later or dropped. [Figueroa was never charged.]

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I will be honest. As a law and order guy, I am frustrated at ICE. Every single Ametican rhat is picked up for assaulting or impeding, obstructing should be charged. They should have to go to court.

If ICE is truly wrong in their arrests they will stop doing it and if they are correct then they will be proven accurate. The failure to charge and take it to court is a TOTAL FAILURE on the part of Justice system. I fell like they don't want to mess with it even if they are correct. It needs to stop. Charge or dont bother. Its ridiculous.

I read in scripture that Christian citizenship is in heaven. That we were bought with a price and are not our own. To seek things above not earthly things. That we cannot serve two masters. To not be carnally minded which is what politics is. GOD says it is not up to man who walks to his own steps. Man is incapable of ruling himself. Christians have a king that GOD appointed , Christ. We are to submit to him only and not to men. Yes, while we are yet here in the flesh, pay taxes, keep the laws of the nation you are in, pray for people in human governments. Why, so that we can live peaceful and quiet lives among the carnal governments. There is no command to actually take part in these governments. Remember who GOD has allowed to be the god of this world. Satan currently rules in the kingdoms of this world’s darkness and Satan offered them all to Jesus in return for his worship. All the kingdoms and nations of this earth will be overthrown by Christ when he returns. If this happens in your lifetime which side do you want to be on ? Take a good read of human history and their governments. Human history is constant war and death. Even here in the U.S. your vote means nothing because once in power politicians do what they want, there is no true will of the people, it’s a mirage. The U.S. government accepts homosexuality, abortion, transgenderism, does not follow its own constitution and has destroyed our economic, educational and medical institutions. If you can’t see these things then you must not have been very well informed and kept a watchful eye on your government. My government is the kingdom of GOD that I seek first and only. We Christians have been called out of the darkness of the world and into GODS marvelous light. We should not go back into that darkness.

SabbathBlessings said:

It is plain, what is the issue with this verse? What does it mean to become a new creation in Christ? Would one be clinging to their old life of sin and worshipping others gods, or stealing from their neighbor, or would one die of self and be baptized with Christ turning a new path keeping God's commandments through love and faith. John14:15 Rom3:31 Rom 6:1-4

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And Gal 6:15 says for in CHRIST JESUS Neither. CIRCMCISION. (. Meaning Jews. as all males had to be Circumcised )

is of any force.

NOR UNCIRCUMCISION. , meaning GENTILES

But a NEW CREATION

MEANING THE BODY OF CHRIST !!

dan p

Say it aint so said:

There in lies the problem. The GOP was ready to run every political race in every state through "what about Mamdani".
Now they are upset of Trump for these optics. It won't last. Nothing lasts with Trump.

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Yup, and tomorrow (not literally) Trump will be blasting Mamdani for his socialist programs in NY.

Apple Sky said:

And yet from where I live I can see Devon on a clear day which is about 60 miles.

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Where are you in South Wales that Devon is 60 miles away from you? I don't need specific locations like the town or whatever, but let's just go with the county.

But regardless, on a clear day, I have no way of seeing the Isle of Man with my naked eye as would be expected to on a flat Earth. But it's perfectly expected on a globe earth.

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I don't know what counsel is telling them. Yes, they receive training on responsibility and conduct. What happens when one is ordered to do something that is out of bounds? I think you already mentioned something to the effect, the White house lawyers will cover them. Apparently for some, that doesn't alleviate the concern. Specially in a White house where expressing your concern gets you fired or removed, and replaced with someone simply because they will comply

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What does "out of bounds" mean? That's a meaningless term without real actionability.

The troops are taught not to obey illegal orders, and they are given a specific meaning for that: An illegal order is an order to break a law, and they should be able to name the law that it breaks.

Anything more esoteric, philosophical, or political than "breaks a law/does not break a law" is out of the realm of the common soldier to interpret. All that soldier can do is get court-martialed, and he will lose because the military court is not going to rule against the president...that's called "mutiny."

zoidar said:

Not from that text, but:

It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught of God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.
— John 6:45

So "heard and learned" may be the reason to be drawn.

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So you're suggesting "hearing and learning" may provide a condition to being drawn, which in turn enables one to come? How could someone who is unable to receive Christ in the first place "hear and learn"?

The phrase διδακτοὶ θεοῦ ("taught by God" or "God-taught") in John 6:45 uses a predicate adjective derived from διδάσκω. Its function here is descriptive, not conditional. It describes individuals who have received the benefit of a divine act of teaching, not the offering of a teaching that may be accepted or refused. The genitive θεοῦ marks God as the source of the imparted knowledge. In other words, it is the effect of God's action, not a prerequisite for it.

Compare to "God-breathed" in 2 Tim. 3:16. It's the same sort of predicate adjectival idea. It's descriptive of a divine act. Just as Scripture is described as being "breathed out by God," those in view in John 6:44-45 are described as "having received God's instruction."

Grammatically and contextually, "taught by God" parallels "drawn" in the preceding verse: just as drawing is an effective divine act that enables ability, so being God-taught is a description of the outcome of that divine action (which actually further makes the point that the "him raised" refers to the one drawn). John 6:45 therefore does not suggest that hearing and learning is a condition to be drawn; rather, the hearing and learning are the result of God's effective action. They describe the means by which the knowledge and understanding is imparted by God to those whom He draws.

I don't want to make this a transgender thread. But I absolutely believe those that think they are rhe opposite sex are ill. They are not sinning in believing that. They are ill. Just like any other mental illness.

There are others that are not really trans, they just have a sexual fetish or autogynaphelia which isn't being actually trans. Thats a different story.

I have real compassion for those that are ill and suffering mentally. Thats why we should leave kids alone because their brains are not developed and many of them are suffering with other mental health issues that they grow out of if left alone. We should have real compassion for kids and harming them further with drugs and surgeries is not compassion or love.

rjs330 said:

Concerns? Over what? This was about illegal orders. There hasn't been any. You think there weren't any concerns ftom military members who invaded Iraq?

This was political theater meant to undermine the president and suggest he's giving illegal orders and they have an obligation to disobey them. When in fact he hasn't.

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A whole flock of general officers retired over the invasion of Iraq...and nobody outside the military noticed. The Army chief of staff got fired pushing back against the invasion of Iraq...and nobody outside the military noticed.

Strong in Him said:

You wrote "payers" - i.e people who pay - instead of prayers.

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stevevw said:

I am wondering if the culture is what is causing peoples heart to grow corrupt on the inside while trying to present a polished and virtious image on the outside.

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I am not so sure about anyone trying to present a polished and virtuous image on the outside. I would like to see at least more of that.

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

See post #1,290.

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And yet from where I live I can see Devon on a clear day which is about 60 miles.

Apple Sky said:

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You wrote "payers" - i.e people who pay - instead of prayers.

Elon Musk says that in 10 to 20 years, work will be optional and money will be irrelevant thanks to AI and robotics

Bob Crowley said:

He might have escaped human justice, but he would not have escaped God's judgement.

The same comment would apply to every other murderer throughout history who thought he got away with it.

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Amen!

Ora pro nobis

Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.
Amen

Apple Sky said:

This is another believer in the truth down the pan, all because of peoples attitudes.

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Rubbish.

This guy has chosen to leave; by the sounds of it, because he doesn't like people opposing him.
He hasn't, himself, exactly been complimentary about people who disagree with him. And he has chosen to go rather than stay, defend his beliefs and answer people's questions/objections.
That's his choice.

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Well, I think both need to be affirmed. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to have inerrant interpretation of an errant text.

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Even if we had infallible interpreters, we'd be stuck interpreting them as well. Unless you're advocating that each of us is infallible in our interpretations. So it doesn't seem to me that we can affirm either, at least unless we're simply going to be insisting on such matters dogmatically and don't deal in the practical realities involved.

Valletta said:

It's up to Ukraine, an offer is better than no offers.

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That offer has been on the table since day one. It was called "surrender".

Apple Sky said:

It seems like laughing is all your good at, so carry on.

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See post #1,290.

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

If you didn't, you wouldn't have responded either way...

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It seems like laughing is all your good at, so carry on.