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Normandt · 2025-11-12T05:35:04-0600

Homily Thursday, November 13 2025

32nd OT

Ws 7:22 – 8:1

"Wisdom is the reflection of eternal light, the spotless mirror of the power of God."

"Wisdom is the radiance" of God's Love and intelligence, it passes through all hearts and leaves joy and peace in its path.

Lk 17:20-25

Jesus says: "The coming of the kingdom of God cannot be observed."

This has the merit of being clear. We cannot observe the kingdom of God. Jesus tells us this in every possible way. All his messages lead to this reality. With earthly examples, we cannot touch God, the kingdom of God.

Each person must take a further step to enter the kingdom of God:

Realizing, accepting, and welcoming joy and peace within us means constantly returning to the Love of God and remaining in it.

Let us welcome God's life, love, joy, and peace within us. In this way, we are with God, who is always with us.

Let us observe and listen within ourselves; God is there.

Biblical texts: NAB-RE

Normand Thomas.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-12T05:34:26-0600

Apple Sky said:
Because you can't prove that satellites are up in space supposedly orbiting around.

You can't prove that they're not - even you have shown photos of satellite dishes that are pointed at the sky.

BNR32FAN · 2025-11-12T05:33:26-0600

Dan1988 said:
According to the Holy Bible (Gods Word) "only those who are indwelt and led by the Holy Spirit" enfure to the end. In other words 'the elect of God". Now how hard was that to understand, that's what the gospel of the Lord Jesus is all about.

I get the sense that you don't believe the gospel of the Lord Jesus, and you prefer the Jacobs Arminius version

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

“If we endure, we will also reign with Him; If we deny Him, He also will deny us;”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2‬:‭12‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Strong in Him · 2025-11-12T05:32:29-0600

Phil G said:
Just a small correction, my work didn't involve satellites. One of my hobbies/interests has always been radio and tv. So my experience with satellite tv is purely from a personal interest and learning how to set up the equipment and learning what it is designed to do.

Sorry.

Dan1988 · 2025-11-12T05:28:32-0600

contratodo said:
God is not evil. Commanding someone to do what they cannot do is defined as evil in Exodus chapter 5. When pharaoh commanded Israel to gather their own straw and yet make the same amount of brick, that was called evil by Moses because they were asked to do an impossible task.

"....now, God commands all men everywhere to repent.... " Acts 17:22-31. Verse 31 being the key verse.

Paul said, in Athens Greece, on Mars hill, that God now commands all men everywhere to repent.

That is an evil thing to command, according to scripture, if all men everywhere can not possibly repent.

God is not evil, He has made a way for all men everywhere to repent via the death and resurrection of His Son, therefore repentance, for every man, begins at belief that Christ died and rose from the dead.

The commandments were given to show mankind that it's impossible to keep any of them. You have forgotten who and what you are. Don't you know that you and everyone else was born dead in sin, and you inherited a fallen sin nature from your parents?????.

Why are you blaming God for your sin, God didn't make you sin. You sin because you are a sinner, just as the rest of mankind is. Haven't you ever read;
Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

You conveniently ignore the fact that God is under no obligation to save any sinner. We all deserve to burn in hell, but thank God He chose to save some for Himself.

God commands all men everywhere to repent, so they are without excuse. That way He has the legal right to take vengeance on them.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T05:19:27-0600

Phil G said:
Explain this in your own words please.

No - Not again, you'll just have too watch it, that is if you really want the truth.

Bob8102 · 2025-11-12T05:15:49-0600

Doubting again.

If I am not willing to be crucified with Christ, I cannot be saved.

What perplexes me is that some people hear the gospel, immediately believe in a saving faith way, and go on their way rejoicing. Like the Ethiopian eunuch.

To me, being saved, living the Christian life and walking the Christian walk means being unbearably squashed. What is perplexing to me is that the NT talks about the “joy” of a believer.

There are paradoxes in the supernatural realm. One has to do with free will versus election. Apparently, these are two sides of the same supernatural coin. Both are true at the same time.

Another paradox is the concept of salvation in a moment versus the daily walk. As Delvianna said, faith is something to be done CONTINUALLY. To me, that means: mess up at any point and you are out the door of the kingdom. But the NT talks of conversion-in-a-moment and the security of the believer. It also says, those who persevere to the end will be saved.

Between my own unwillingness to be crucified and the paradoxes, I am blown away by the gospel.

Douggg · 2025-11-12T05:14:00-0600

keras said:
God will not save anyone who hates Jesus.

keras, the Jews attitude toward Jesus is going to completely change. Also, do you know that modern day Jews (Judaism) consider Jesus a "failed messiah" ? They don't "hate" Jesus. They just don't believe that he is the messiah, nor do they believe in the gospel of salvation in Christ, nor do they believe that Jesus is the LORD their God.

keras said:
Scripturally impossible.
Jewish Israel is very well defended. Gog will attack an undefended people.

The land of Israel, as a nation, was desolate until the Jews returned following WWII, Israel is not capable on its own to defend itself against the size of the Gog/Magog attacking force.

Look at Ezekiel 38. Does it say that Gog/Magog is going to attack a nation that formed following a solar flare event that destroyed it's previous population ?

Dan1988 · 2025-11-12T05:12:05-0600

BNR32FAN said:
And this brings us right back to Genesis 6:5 where God obviously didn’t want man to be evil. He grieved in His heart that man was so evil. But I know your position on this, this is just a mystery that no one can explain. Except the vast majority of Christianity has no problem explaining it because it doesn’t conflict with their theology.

I thought I already cleared this up for you. I told you that God is not the Author of evil, but He does allow evil doers to do their wicked work for a time. Then He torments them is the lake of fire for all eternity, so God sill wins.
They do their thing for a short time but God does His thing forever, that's a bargain. I love it, just as I love everything else that God does.

Dan1988 · 2025-11-12T05:05:51-0600

BNR32FAN said:
What does this have to do with 1 Corinthians 2 & 3? Are you suggesting that the Corinthians Paul is addressing in chapter 3 aren’t true believers? I’m not bundling anyone together I’m only talking about one particular group, the group of people Paul was addressing in 1 Corinthians 3. Paul specifically said that these people had the Holy Spirit in them and that they were holy in that very same chapter.

“Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬-‭17‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

But of course you’ll ignore that to because that’s what you do whenever the scriptures contradict your theology. The fact is that Paul just told them that they are NOT SPIRITUALLY APPRAISED EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE INDWELLING HOLY SPIRIT. You can’t accept that and maintain your theology so those facts just get swept under the rug as if they don’t exist so that you can hold on to your theology that takes precedence over what the scriptures actually say.

That's more twisted theology nonsense.
Who is "If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬-‭17" referring to. Let e guess, you believe that it's referring to those who are born again believers, who are indwelt and led by the Holy Spirt.

You believe that the Holy Spirit leads some born again believers to destroy their temple, and that's very sad and blasphemous on your part. ‬

Dan1988 · 2025-11-12T04:55:51-0600

fhansen said:
No, I'm suggesting that
1) Sin would be impossible without human freedom
2) God so values the freedom He gave man to begin with that He won't override it.
God desires that we use our freedom for good, not evil, to embrace and choose the good He's shown us, to embrace and choose love to put it in the most correct terms. He's cultivating people who love and if He just wanted some kind of robot who can't do otherwise, well, that wouldn’t be love at all-and He could’ve done something like that at the beginning, avoiding all the pain and suffering and victimization this world has known. Instead, we have a world of hardship and strife, of sin and evil, where we might learn something of benefit: to hate evil, to run from it and to the ultimate Good who is God when He calls and beckons:

“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” Matt 11:28-30

That may sound like a wonderful philosophy, to those who don't know that truth. But to those of us who do know the truth, it's nothing more than a vein attempt to offer false hope, because none of it is true.

Even the verses you chose, expose your unbiblical views.

You will never find anything in the bible to support your private opinion 1) Sin would be impossible without human freedom.

You will never find anything in the bible to support your private opinion that 2) God so values the freedom He gave man to begin with that He won't override it. No such nonsense exists in the Bible.

God never said that He desires that we use our freedom for good, not evil, to embrace and choose the good He's shown us, to embrace and choose love to put it in the most correct terms. And no such nonsense exists in the Bible.

This world is beautiful, everything is exactly as God predestined it to be. He is in full control of every single thing in the universe. From the smallest thing to the biggest things, nothing happens apart from His will.

You mention Matt, 11:28-30 as if it was some kind of an offer of a better lifestyle or blessings, but it's nothing like that at all, it was hate speech and it got Him tortured, spat, His beard was ripped out and the flesh on His back was hanging of from being whipped before He was crucified and murdered. The same thing would happen if he came back today and tried that again, He is hated by religious people, today more then ever before.

BelieveItOarKnot · 2025-11-12T04:55:34-0600

fli said:
The New Testament begins when Jesus died. All that is said does not apply to the church. In Matthew 23:9 Jesus is speaking to the Israelis of His time on earth.

I know that position is taught, but that's not legit.

Jesus advised us that man shall live by every Word of God. Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4, Deut. 8:3

What this means is that elimination of the Word of God based on historical referenced time frames or to whom said words were spoken to isn't legitimate. There really are deeper meanings behind every Word that apply to everyone.

Some people are "led" down your dead end because they can't remedy such matters as law vs. grace, so they toss the law entirely aside.

No prophet, Apostle or Jesus did such things, nor should we.

fli said:
Exodus 4:22 Israel was set aside as His people, His bride, and His children. It was not until the NT that we discovered not all Israel was Israel.

Jesus, Paul, John and Peter tell us quite clearly who was with Israel that was not Israel in scriptures such as Mark 4:15, Romans 11:8, 1 John 3:8 and many many others.

You do realize that we all engage the tempter or his own, internally?

fli said:
Not all people on earth are His children. After Jesus died only those who believe in Jesus and walk in the Spirit are His children.

Jesus advised us that we ALL have One Father: Matt. 23:9

Some of the positions you are tossing out are clearly not orthodox in any way. Some minor and irrelevant side sect of some sort more than likely.

fli said:
When did I ever mention any recipes or incantations? Please show me just where I cited anything other than scripture to justify my conclusions. Since you have accused me of this, I do expect you to prove it.

Already have and I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't bury your responses to me at the bottom of your responses to other posters.

fli said:
I never said that Jesus was saved by His works. Jesus saved His body, the church, by His works.

You just did it, again.

fli said:
Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone. NKJV

Jesus suffered death, which He could have avoided as He never sinned. He suffered death so those who believed in Him did not suffer eternal death. Because He died in obedience to the Father's wish, God gave Him the right to save the world. He chose to save all who believed in Him (the redeemed, all true Israel) and also save those who showed Him and His brethren kindness (the white throne judgment). Two different groups.

You only see people in your equations and then use that form of spiritual blindness to condemn other captives of the devils.

But then again it's not even you doing it, so there's that.

Pity, such sights.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T04:55:23-0600

Phil G said:
Therefore satellites in geostationary orbit around a globe earth perfectly explains my experience. And I've yet to see any alternative explanation which even comes close to explaining it!

A Closer Look At Why Satellites Are A Hoax on Flat Earth

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fide · 2025-11-12T04:48:18-0600

FaithT said:
i can understand how different results occur during various studies but if God can or does answer prayer, shouldn’t there be SOME indication that God answered them sometimes? I mean, don’t all the studies prove prayer has no effect whatsoever? And if so, what’s the point of prayer other than thanking God?

The point of prayer is that, it is the path of our vocation: we are made for holy fellowship with the Trinity. God created us to share in His Being, His Love, His Happiness. To share in His very Life, we must grow into the "image and likeness" of Him Himself. Thus, the "growing into" is a journey, a path, a process of maturation toward fruitfulness in the beautiful fruits of Love.

This process, or pilgrimage, is one of less and less about me, and more and more about the giving of self for the good of another - or others. Witness: Jesus - in His Sacred humanity - dying on the Cross, for others, doing the will of the Father in the Spirit of the Son. This must be our path, and the path of holy prayer: to give, for the sake of the others.

Thus the path of prayer is the path to death of self, and the finding of a glorious and new self made in the "image and likeness" of our Creator God. This is the will of the Father in creating human beings: His will, His intention is our purpose, our vocation. Those who find it and walk in it will find Life!

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T04:47:02-0600

Phil G said:
Your flat earth buddy on here says it is curved like a dish, as in it is convex, curving away from an observer.

Yes like a dish but this does make the moon a sphere as he explains in the video.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T04:42:15-0600

Phil G said:
And as somebody with experience in installing satellite tv equipment, I know for a fact that their explanations are nonsense.

So in other words satellites do supposedly orbit around in space.

BelieveItOarKnot · 2025-11-12T04:38:14-0600

Light of the East said:
It does, however, seem that the most ardent supporters of this idea are converts from Protestantism who have brought over their theological baggage with them.

It seems to me having been in dialog with various members of E.O. for quite some decades now, they are largely non committal i.e. they really don't like to share what they really believe. But then again that can be said of any sect.

Just my opinion

BelieveItOarKnot · 2025-11-12T04:35:37-0600

Dan Perez said:
And give. the verses and you says that there are SEVERAL DOZENS ways to be SAVED , so lets see dozens of ways

Paul. says we can be SAVED !!

MAYBE DOZENS OF WAYS to be SAVED under THE OLD COVENANT ??

Maybe DOZENS of ways under the NEW COVENMAT ??

And I know. that there are NOT DOZENS of Ways , so just ONE WAY for EACH WILL DO. !!

Will show where BORN OF GOD IN JOHN 3:5 FITS. IN ??

And where John 3:3. fits in. !!

dan p

What is it you are really trying to say Dan?

Jesus is The Savior of the world. I believe He gets the job done.

Done.

That also means the destruction of the devil and his messengers, who also happen to "occupy" space in our own heads via temptations and evil thoughts that defile us all.

One saved
One not so much

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T04:34:55-0600

Phil G said:
You said flat. Flat does not mean curve.

Yes a flat circle, just like the earth.

So a circle doesn't curve then ?

AI over view
A circle is defined by its curve and is constantly turning everywhere, so it does indeed curve.

.Mikha'el. · 2025-11-12T04:33:51-0600

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Dan1988 · 2025-11-12T04:28:53-0600

fhansen said:
It was meamt as a figure of speech, to oppose "traditions of men". But even so, yes, God has His traditions, His revealed will, The Greek word for traditions is used in both senses in the bible, as teachings of men, and as teachings/revelation of Christ.

There's only one correct interpretation for every word in the Bible. It's always depends on the surrounding context. It's not wise to complicate it by mixing the different senses together, as it always leads to confusion.
God is not the Author of confusion.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T04:26:24-0600

Phil G said:
There has to be a rational explanation for the consistently reliable and high quality tv signals.

There is & I've explained it.

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