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probinson · 2025-09-15T14:03:26-0500

Look how anxious people are to dismiss this without even reading it.

FreeinChrist · 2025-09-15T14:03:08-0500

rjs330 said:
Nope, didn't happen.

Yep, it did happen. I posted about it here:

I’m voting for Trump because he’s a white man.

I see the immediate and most pressing issue as preserving the democratic process of free and fair elections for future generations by not allowing an autocratic cult takeover of government. We need to vote against Trump and for Harris to ensure that a government for the people and by the people...

www.christianforums.com

And here:

First Black Woman Lieutenant Governor Elected despite fierce opposition from Democrats.

But all of this other stuff with CRT (or whatever of the many labels its being promoted under)that promotes racism and segregation, the gender delusions that pretend there is no such thing as biological sex, taking parents out of schools, approving sexually explicit materials for school...

www.christianforums.com

We deleted and warned folks on this site referring to Michelle Obama as 'and ape in heels.' It was used by Republicans during and after his term:
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-379859670

Yeah, it happened. To deny it is to live in your own bubble of reality that does not exist.

rjs330 said:
Now you are upset over people.being fired for their views? Whatever happened to that point of view when people were being fired for disagreeing with trans ideology? Or girls being threatened when rhey didnt want boys in their spaces? Or maybe people being threatened or fired because they didn't support the BLM movement? Where was all your angst then?

A guy is DEAD. Killed by a leftist and you are upset because people got fired for posting celebrations over his death or saying things about how he deserved it in some fashion?

Sure some right wing folks are really angry. I dont blame them. And in their anger they've lashed out with some stupid thoughts. What did you expect? Calmness and reasonableness from some who havent really shown themselves to be reasonable in the first place? Like some of the shock jocks or Proud Boys?

Yes, the Democrats and leftists do have blood on their hands for the things they have said in calling us Hitler, Nazis, every phobe in the book, racists, bigots etc.
As I have heard more than once from the left that freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. And we heard it in spades regarding Charlies death. I guess that was his consequence for using his freedom.of speech. And the firing of people was the consequence of using theirs.

Sorry but your angst rings far too hollow for me.

I dont think.ANYONE should be fired for not supporting a particular political or ideological point of view. Whether that be in support of abortion or in opposition to transgenderism.

I have no issues though in someone being let go for being so callous as to celebrate the assassination of a person you disagree with ideologically with in violation of the policies or code of conduct within those businesses. That's some real twisted sick stuff.

I don't think it was good that Charlie Kirk was shot. It is a terrible thing to happen.
But if people point out that he is not a saint on social media, not a work site, I don't think they should be quickly fired.

Republicans celebrate Kirk's freedom of speech ring hollow when the Trump administration is putting a thumb down on the freedom of the press (ABC, CBS, NPR, PBS, suit against the Wall Street Journal, banning AP from the White House, and much more) and this is cheered by MAGA. 'Freedom of speech for me but not for thee' is what is happening in practice in this administration. That along side Trump's attacks on Harvard, Columbia and more are attacks on free speech.

Yes, the Democrats and leftists do have blood on their hands for the things they have said in calling us Hitler, Nazis, every phobe in the book, racists, bigots etc.

Yes, poor Republicans. What have Dems been called? Names found on the Admin Announcement about unacceptable nicknames, like 'commies'. And according to Trump, Democrats (all) are the "enemy within". Others very recently called Democrats (all) "evil" and "can't be compromised with".

From AI overview we have some quotes:

On immigration: "Harris has imported criminal migrants from prisons and jails, insane asylums and mental institutions from all around the world, from Venezuela to the Congo" (Fact-checkers have debunked this claim).
"They've done very bad things to this country. They are indeed the enemy from within": In reference to his political opponents, he claimed they had harmed the country.

Grant Cardone: Called Vice President Kamala Harris "the devil" and said she and her "pimp handlers will destroy our country".

Sid Rosenberg: The conservative radio host referred to the entire Democratic Party as "a bunch of degenerates" and "Jew-haters and lowlifes".
David Rem (Trump's childhood friend): Referred to Harris as "the devil" and "the Antichrist".

A Brief History of Trump’s Violent Remarks

Here are 40 instances in which the former president incited or praised violence against his fellow citizens.

www.theatlantic.com

Liz Cheney agreed with Dems on the Jan 6th insurrection. Trump:

At a campaign event on October 31, Trump said of former U.S. Representative Liz Cheney, “She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, okay? Let’s see how she feels about it ... when the guns are trained on her face.”

Regarding Charlie Kirk, he called for the execution of Biden on his show. I watched it this am.
quote is here

Yes, Charlie Kirk called for Joe Biden to receive the death penalty in July 2023, describing it as punishment for "crimes against America." During an episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, he stated: "I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... [Biden] should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for crimes against America."

The definition of 'celebrate' in regards to Charlie Kirk's death seems too fluid.

Hvizsgyak · 2025-09-15T14:02:54-0500

Ophiolite said:
I have not watched the entire video. I am uncomfortable that he is using YouTube to disseminate his hypothesis. I've searched for any reference to his work, using Google, Google Scholar and ChatGPT, all without success.

There are a lot of red flags. Apart from the absence (apparently) of any attempt to publish an article, he libels one of the laboratories that reported they could not obtain meaningful results from the samples they received - he suggests they may have hidden the evidence because it was too startling. Those words have echoes of pseudo-science.
And one of his sources is a chiropractor! But that may just be my prejudice arising from watching too many episodes of Two and a Half Men.
And the routing he suggests is long and complicated. It's not just that he needs more meat on the bones, I'd like to see some proper (metaphorical) bones.
I can't answer the question of timing since I've watched only all of Part 1 and a fraction of Part 2. If he mentioned time in those it slipped past me. I'm just not encouraged by what I have seen to put any more effort into it.

Just to inform you, in part iii of his video, he has Erik Von Deniken looking over the skulls. Red flags :sigh:

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Yarddog · 2025-09-15T14:02:41-0500

Valletta said:
Democrats put people in prison for trespassing at the Capitol.

That is incorrect. Trespassing is a misdemeanor and no one was put in prison for trespassing. Those whose only charge had to do with trespassing either had the charge dismissed or received light charges like community service.

Valletta said:
You think this millionaire should continue to receive a huge salary at taxpayer expense with no penalty?

No one has proven that she is guilty but Trump did far worse and receives his salary and plays golf regularly on the tax payer's dime.

Aryeh Jay · 2025-09-15T14:02:39-0500

Hans Blaster said:
The last one was a joke that I thought I telegraphed to you with the reference to Jodie Foster. Sigh.

Actual history has no place on the internet

ss51 · 2025-09-15T14:02:35-0500

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blessings

Hentenza · 2025-09-15T14:02:33-0500

durangodawood said:
If the situation was reversed and I was right wingy (and missing a few brain cells), I might suggest this was a terrifically successful false flag.

Right wingy and left wingy are missing a few brain cells.

Jipsah · 2025-09-15T14:00:18-0500

Platte said:
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Actually the one God invented in verse 3

Broken record award, mate. What was the light source pre-sun? Yeah, light already existed, but evenings and mornings aren’t caused by the existence of light, are they? It’s intellectually pathetic stuff like this that’s pushing literate people away from dumb head evangelicalism.

Chesterton · 2025-09-15T13:57:15-0500

There's a more comprehensive video about the love being shown for Kirk all over - Japan, South Korea, Spain, Australia, everywhere. Unfortunately the video has some profanity so I probably shouldn't post it. It's from a British guy who goes by DinoBane.

Fervent · 2025-09-15T13:55:01-0500

JosephZ said:
Most historians would disagree.

Based on what?

JosephZ said:
According to Islamic teachings, Muslims are to emulate Muhammad's character traits like honesty, compassion, and humility and his ethical principles. They don't have to whitewash Muhammad's actions as a warrior, because Muslims understand the historical context in which the Qur'an was written. They see his actions as a warrior to have been appropriate for situations Muslims faced in the 7th century and not as mandates for Muslims to follow in 2025.

So 'honesty" like intentionally entering into contracts and then voiding them the minute it is expedient? humility, like putting his name into the defining creed? And what historical circumstances excuse r*pe , slavery, pedophilia, sex slavery, bigamy, and on an on?

JosephZ said:
It's important not to dismiss or ignore the historical context and circumstances surrounding the creation of any religious texts. Ignoring the intended audience, cultural norms, and historical events surrounding them will always lead to misinterpretation. I find it odd that someone with a Masters of Divinity like yourself would disregard the importance of historical context, knowing how crucial it is for accurate interpretation of religious texts.

Excusing the aggression and immoral conduct Muhammad engaged in because of "historical cirumstances" is just making an excuse, and a rather weak one at that.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-09-15T13:53:17-0500

iluvatar5150 said:
Exactly. His fans totally didn't take the most extreme interpretation of his words and go overboard. It's only leftists who do that.

Who broke the doors and crapped in offices?

Hentenza · 2025-09-15T13:52:13-0500

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Chesterton · 2025-09-15T13:52:10-0500

partinobodycular said:
It's not a trick... it is a test though, my bad if you're offended by it. A truly critical thinker would understand that it simply isn't possible to know whether Jesus was actually the Son of God, or even if there is a God. They can passionately believe that He was, and they can present arguments in support of that belief, but they can't "know", and a critical thinker would understand that.

So from a critical thinking standpoint the correct answer is yes, it is possible that Christ wasn't the Son of God.

I would resubmit that there really isn't that much of a difference between how an AI thinks and how a person thinks. Hence we should no more be offended by what a person says, than we should be offended by what an AI says.

What I replied to you is that I think He is the Son of God. I didn't say I know.

essentialsaltes · 2025-09-15T13:51:26-0500

probinson said:
Another way to say that is, study shows 25 children died as a result of the COVID vaccine.

This is a compilation of VAERS reports. And they have verified the children are dead. If all there is is 'post hoc ergo propter hoc' that shouldn't be very influential.

Clare73 · 2025-09-15T13:51:02-0500

fhansen said:
More speculative than integrated here, IMO. Abraham didn't know his seed, only that there would be one, and many, as is also indicated in Gen 15. This is echoed in Abraham's blind trust in the promised land.

It's not about knowing, it's about what God counts as knowing, or counts as any other rquirement.

Chesterton · 2025-09-15T13:50:01-0500

Hans Blaster said:
Do I have to?

Given the memes etched (allegedly) on the shell casings, my first guess would be that he terminally online and "did it for the lulz" and "went kinetic IRL". The memes are all or mostly tied to the "Groypers", so it entirely possible that he took the latest "Groyper war" against Kirk/TP USA (with the previous iterations occurring in the late 2010s).

1. The memes are not tied to Groypers.
2. The Groyper wars have been over for a long time.
3. Groypers were very much anti-homosexual and anti-trans.

Hans Blaster said:
More silliness.

If you're going to play dumb, I'll play silly.

Hans Blaster said:
It's far more likely he was trying to catch the attention of some teen actress like the guy who shot Reagan.

This seems to contradict what you said in the immediately preceding paragraph. But maybe you have some inside info the FBI hasn't released yet. Who is this teen actress, and is he pre-op or post-op?

Clare73 · 2025-09-15T13:47:34-0500

Mercy Shown said:
Can you support this or are you just expressing your opinion?

Well, for starters the tasters fell away.

Seconly, tasting is just a superficial encounter, and does not necessarily lead to genuine embibement, embracement of the object.

RileyG · 2025-09-15T13:47:06-0500

RocksInMyHead said:
Quoting myself from the last time I had this conversation:

The late Christopher Hitchens and the late Madalyn Murray O’Hair also said some pretty hateful and nasty things others might find crude or offensive.

Not excusing anyone, but they’re ALL human.

I’ll let God alone be their judge.

I’ve said it things I deeply regret, too.

RocksInMyHead · 2025-09-15T13:46:51-0500

Vambram said:
You are calling Charlie Kirk hateful.

No, I didn't. I said that he said hateful things. It's an important distinction - I don't know what he was really like as a person, seeing as I never met him.

Vambram said:
Why?

I already explained why. As I said, if you look at that list of quotes and only see "disagreement with the leftist agenda," I don't know what to tell you. It's possible to disagree with Democrats without stating that they hate America, or to articulate your problems with affirmative action without saying that you worry that any Black person is unqualified for their job, or to express your concerns with illegal immigration without claiming that there's a conspiracy to replace white people in the US with immigrants.

RileyG · 2025-09-15T13:44:43-0500

Maria Billingsley said:
In fairness, I believe he meant to beat "them " in the next election cycle.

I’d be surprised to see what happens next.

Hvizsgyak · 2025-09-15T13:44:31-0500

caffeinated.hermit said:
25 years ago, Furry subculture began to blip on the radar. Vanity Fair did a piece on furries back then. The culture has continued and has, to an extent, intersected with the transgender ideology that began to take off about 15 years ago. I've noticed that a lot of furries are trans-identified males. A lot of transgender people have fursonas.

I've seen it be (mostly) harmless, but have also seen grown men report sobbing in the breakroom at their workplace because they can't literally become a seal. And have seen young people become slowly panicked because they don't know if they're a fox, a dog, or a coyote. Like, actual anxiety, fear, and sadness.

So, my question is, do we really as a society want to encourage and coddle this delusional lifestyle where grown people have social problems because of this fad/trend? Here's one that got me. A person had their ears made pointed (plastic surgery) so they would look like an elf. This self expression is wrong and it should not be encouraged and it is totally bizarre that the medical and psychiatric fields have nothing intelligent to say about it. Their attitude seems to be, "let them do what they want, they aren't harmful". Really?!!!

FireDragon76 · 2025-09-15T13:44:21-0500

Vambram said:
And that is the problem that the leftists have. IMO, radical leftists are not rational people.

That's dehumanizing rhetoric meant to be dismissive. It's also an anti-intellectual move.

There isn't one universal ideal of reason- Aristotilian syllogistic reasoning is just one logical system of many. And rejection of essentialist metaphysics, which is common in actual leftist discourse, isn't unheard of in traditional, non-western cultures, either. So really what you are talking about as defining "rationality" is hardly universal in scope, it's tied to a particular time and place.

BCP1928 · 2025-09-15T13:42:50-0500

Vambram said:
80% of Americans disagree with Bernie and his followers about the transgender agenda.

Do you even know what it is?

Simto · 2025-09-15T13:42:07-0500

If you destroy your teeths by sugar or drugs, you can`t bite your fingernails anymore, hence you can`t go back to live as natives. And the same goes for if you have a poopie-bag on stomach

BCP1928 · 2025-09-15T13:40:41-0500

Vambram said:
And that is the problem that the leftists have. IMO, radical leftists are not rational people.

An exactly symmetrical situation.

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