IF you know if someone is asking for money but he is going to use to buy something illegal, should you give him money? How do you know if that person is going to buy a gun, and start killing everyone in the church?
IF you know if someone is asking for money but he is going to use to buy something illegal, should you give him money? How do you know if that person is going to buy a gun, and start killing everyone in the church?
Actually alot of the homeless are war vets now. They couldn't fit back into society in one way or another and they were usually abandoned by they're friends/family... if they had any to begin with.
Yep but some don't know how to get them or they have such bad mental issues (PTSD) for example that they can't be dealt with or don't want help. They often don't know what to do or where to go sadly.Don't vets get some kind of benefits for serving? I don't know why so many are homeless, the people i know who served get all kinds of benefits so I don't know why a lot of homeless people used to be in the military.
It is our job to be good stewards of the money God has given to us. Giving someone money so they can keep up their drug habit contradicts the very reason one would give them money. It is not judging them to offer them real help instead of throwing good money away and end up supporting their self-destructive habit.Give them the money. It's not our job to judge others.
It is a fair and reasonable assumption, though. We have panhandlers that spend 10 hours a day standing at street corners begging for money. The police in our stopped my parents after they gave money to a panhandler. He explained that many of the "homeless" in our town are that way on purpose because they are trying to hide from child support payments, or they are sexual predators and would be required to put that on job applications or rental applications. They would have to register as a sex offender in our city, as well. In some cases, the panhandlers are not homeless at all. They did an expose our local news that caught them driving home in SUV's or pretty decent cars. They can make up to $100 a day completely tax free, better than working a regular 9-5 job. So things are not as they seem in some cases and it is wise to know to whom you are giving moneyPeople always like to assume the worst of homeless beggars simply because they're homeless and begging. Oftentimes they're genuinely sweet people who just fell on hard times, a lot of the time due to mental illness.
That's not an excuse that is going to hold water. We should not be enabling that kind of "coping" mechanism.Yes, a lot of them may be taking drugs, but it's often a coping mechanism. People who grew up sheltered and away from any sort of financial difficulties may not realize that.
It is our job to be good stewards of the money God has given to us. Giving someone money so they can keep up their drug habit contradicts the very reason one would give them money. It is not judging them to offer them real help instead of throwing good money away and end up supporting their self-destructive habit.
It is a fair and reasonable assumption, though. We have panhandlers that spend 10 hours a day standing at street corners begging for money. The police in our stopped my parents after they gave money to a panhandler. He explained that many of the "homeless" in our town are that way on purpose because they are trying to hide from child support payments, or they are sexual predators and would be required to put that on job applications or rental applications. They would have to register as a sex offender in our city, as well. In some cases, the panhandlers are not homeless at all. They did an expose our local news that caught them driving home in SUV's or pretty decent cars. They can make up to $100 a day completely tax free, better than working a regular 9-5 job. So things are not as they seem in some cases and it is wise to know to whom you are giving money
That's not an excuse that is going to hold water. We should not be enabling that kind of "coping" mechanism.
Come talk to me when you actually understand the realities of poverty.
Agree.Give them the money. It's not our job to judge others. People always like to assume the worst of homeless beggars simply because they're homeless and begging. Oftentimes they're genuinely sweet people who just fell on hard times, a lot of the time due to mental illness.
Yes, a lot of them may be taking drugs, but it's often a coping mechanism. People who grew up sheltered and away from any sort of financial difficulties may not realize that.
I very much understand the realities of poverty. I volunteer at a food bank. I have helped people who were poor get jobs and get off of government dependence. I understand that simply throwing money at the problem doesn't work.
The best way to get people out of poverty is to get them into a job. I help with real solutions. I don't offer them a means to perpetuate their poverty. People need real help, but that means real solutions.
And getting a job is just their first step to freedom form poverty. But it is what they have to get and it works. Our local Christian soup kitchen started a restaurant that trained and hired homeless people to cook, serve and clean and they do really good and it has given these people sense of pride and it has given them hope.
Your approach evidently, just throws money at people without any regard with what they do with that money. But when people have to earn the money, when they hold a check in their hands that represents the work they put in for the week, they spend the money on better things. They start feeling a sense of responsibility and all of a sudden, they want a place to live, to call home. They want something to call their own. It's amazing to see the transformation when homeless people get a job.
Some are unwilling to work and as I stated before have issues and getting a job will expose them to legal jeopardy. But many are just the opposite. They like having a purpose and a reason to get up in the morning. They like telling people they have job.
I not only understand the realities of poverty, but I also understand that most people can and do come out of poverty to live a better, more productive life.
I live well below the poverty line right now. I am not homeless but I make far less than what most people can live on. But I make it work. So I would not be too quick to pass judgement on me. You have no idea about what is or is not obvious. You have no idea who I am what I have to deal with and are in no position to look down a self-righteous snoot at me.It's obvious to me that you have never personally lived poverty.
Well yes, but there are charities in our area that also help by providing job interview clothing, like suits and ties for men and business attire for women. These are not dumb people, but people who simply need a hand up, in most cases.Oftentimes it's not so simple as just "getting a job". People, employers especially, have a lot of preconceived notions about others. If somebody is homeless, thus is wearing rags and is constantly dirty then it's not like anybody is going to hire them.
I didn't say it was a free ticket. I said it was just the first step.Even then simply having a job isn't a free ticket out of poverty.
But getting some a job so they have a chance at getting out of poverty is far better than your solution, which is "just give them money" which perpetuates an ongoing life of self-destructive choices. Your approach is no solution at all.Many people work, multiple jobs sometimes, and still are trapped in an endless cycle.
No, it is about taking charge of your own destiny. It's about restoring someone's pride and giving them some hope and implementing REAL solutions to a problem.It's both a combination of luck and having the right connections, which most people simply do not have.
There's a reason why most of the upper class people come from an upper class upbringing themselves: right from birth they had the right connections and stuff in order to be successful. Rags to riches stories, while do happen, are extremely rare.
It's not nonsense and it is a far better idea than your approach which keeps people in poverty by just throwing money at them and letting them destroy themselves.[/quote][/QUOTE]So yea, please cut me this "get a job" nonsense.
IF you know if someone is asking for money but he is going to use to buy something illegal, should you give him money? How do you know if that person is going to buy a gun, and start killing everyone in the church?
[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]I live well below the poverty line right now. I am not homeless but I make far less than what most people can live on. But I make it work. So I would not be too quick to pass judgement on me. You have no idea about what is or is not obvious. You have no idea who I am what I have to deal with and are in no position to look down a self-righteous snoot at me.
Well yes, but there are charities in our area that also help by providing job interview clothing, like suits and ties for men and business attire for women. These are not dumb people, but people who simply need a hand up, in most cases.
I didn't say it was a free ticket. I said it was just the first step.
But getting some a job so they have a chance at getting out of poverty is far better than your solution, which is "just give them money" which perpetuates an ongoing life of self-destructive choices. Your approach is no solution at all.
No, it is about taking charge of your own destiny. It's about restoring someone's pride and giving them some hope and implementing REAL solutions to a problem.
But I am not talking about rags to riches. I am talking about just getting back one's feet and making a better life. No, they will never be rich, but it's not about getting rich.
It's not nonsense and it is a far better idea than your approach which keeps people in poverty by just throwing money at them and letting them destroy themselves.