Are you better off than you were 3 years ago?

[BPPLEE]

Why didn't we have all of this hand-wringing about illegal immigration for the 30 years between the mid-70's and the mid-00's, when it was consistently higher than it has been for the last several years?

We got full. We already have our quota of illegal immigrants

 

[JustOneWay]

We got full.

America is WAY down the list of countries relating to population density. 91 per square mile

List of countries and dependencies by population density - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[BPPLEE]

America is WAY down the list of countries relating to population density. 91 per square mile

List of countries and dependencies by population density - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why would we want to change that?

 

[JustOneWay]

Why would we want to change that?

The is beside the point. You said we got full. That is not true.

I think I understand what you are saying. We have got ours so the others who don't have what we have can find somewhere else to go.

 

[BPPLEE]

The is beside the point. You said we got full. That is not true.

I said we have reached our quota of illegal immigrants

 

[JustOneWay]

I said we have reached our quota of illegal immigrants

A quota is an arbitrary number determined by the government. It can be changed. People need help, and I agree that we are obligated to help. Apparently you do not share that opinion.

BTW, asylum seekers are not illegal, and there is no quota to take in illegal immigrants.

 

[BPPLEE]

A quota is an arbitrary number determined by the government. It can be changed. People need help, and I agree that we are obligated to help. Apparently you do not share that opinion.

BTW, asylum seekers are not illegal, and there is no quota to take in illegal immigrants.

There’s not a literal quota and asylum seekers who have a legitimate claim should be helped. But we can’t just take everyone that shows up.

 

[JustOneWay]

There’s not a literal quota and asylum seekers who have a legitimate claim should be helped. But we can’t just take everyone that shows up.

OK. Then when you said "I said we have reached our quota of illegal immigrants", you did not mean it literally, but figuratively based upon you opinion that we got full. understood.

BTW, we don't take everybody who shows up.

 

[BPPLEE]

OK. Then when you said "I said we have reached our quota of illegal immigrants", you did not mean it literally, but figuratively based upon you opinion that we got full. understood.

BTW, we don't take everybody who shows up.

Okay. We also have a great number of known getaways and undetected

 

[JustOneWay]

Okay. We also have a great number of known getaways and undetected

Yes, those individuals need to be found and deported. I am for asylum seekers, but not those who sneak in.

 

[DaisyDay]

I'm like other Americans:

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/31/us-economy-2024-gdp-g7-nations

 

[ralliann]

The polls and the economic numbers say otherwise.

What polls?

 

[ralliann]

Have they tried not ordering Starbucks? Not getting the newest, latest, greatest IPhone when it came out? Not going out to eat and going to concerts?

Because when my generation said the minimum wage was a joke and home ownership felt unobtainable because pay wasn’t increasing proportionally to the cost of living and predatory student loans were killing us, I was told that would help.

Maybe they should stop with the designer coffee, designer purses, and getting their nails done if they feel like their quality of life has gone down over the last 3 years. Pick themselves up by the bootstraps, that sort of thing.

I swear, nobody wants to work anymore.

People do want to house clothe and feed their children.

 

[ralliann]

If legislation is not needed, why did Trump not manage to do it?

he did

 

[JustOneWay]

I'm like other Americans:

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/31/us-economy-2024-gdp-g7-nations

It is all about the economy. America has excelled despite criticism from those who want to see an upcoming depression (Trump). I chuckle when certain politicians re-X, formally known as tweet, to their base how bad the economy is....

 

[FireDragon76]

Is there a point at which you would say we can’t accept anyone else it’s unsustainable? What number?
I didn’t want Trump back but I now think he has a chance to do well just because of this one issue.
I don’t think a majority is behind basically having an open border policy.
If we are going to allow this many people in we need a better plan to deal with them so they are not left in the cold like in Chicago and using the bathroom in cups like in NY

The issue is that many Republicans don't want just border enforcement, but forms of enforcement that are more cruel than necessary.

 

[BPPLEE]

The issue is that many Republicans don't want just border enforcement, but forms of enforcement that are more cruel than necessary.

Any plan is going to have to deal with the people who are already here.
What’s cruel is not being prepared for all the people you’re letting in and having them left in the cold and with no place to use the bathroom.
What form of enforcement is cruel? Not accepting everyone?

 

[FireDragon76]

Any plan is going to have to deal with the people who are already here.
What’s cruel is not being prepared for all the people you’re letting in and having them left in the cold and with no place to use the bathroom.
What form of enforcement is cruel? Not accepting everyone?

I was thinking more of the fondness that Texas has for using hidden razor wire in the Rio Grande river, even though this violates federal and international law, and seems intentionally placed in a cruel manner, so that people attempting to cross the river could be mauled by the wire.

 

[Vambram]

The razor wire is actually hidden in the waters of the Rio Grande?
Please present proof of that.

 

[BPPLEE]

I was thinking more of the fondness that Texas has for using hidden razor wire in the Rio Grande river, even though this violates federal and international law, and seems intentionally placed in a cruel manner, so that people attempting to cross the river could be mauled by the wire.

Yes that seems cruel and unnecessary