YAHUAH

[Der Alte]

If the JE gave YOU the information and explanation as YOU claim, then you should be able to answer my question to you, but you can't or won't...I never objected regarding YeHo and Yo being legitimate abbreviations as they are correct prefixes in Hebrew names. YOU posted the JE as an answer to my question. So again, please be truthful and just say you do not know.

I think I said this before. I'm not there to play 20 questions.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I think I said this before. I'm not there to play 20 questions.

Then don't post if you can't discuss the subject since it is quite obvious you can't...

 

[Der Alte]

Then don't post if you can't discuss the subject since it is quite obvious you can't...

I can address the subject but as I keep saying I am not here to play word games. If you have something to say, say it instead of trying to impugn my knowledge. If you can't do that don't bother responding.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I can address the subject but as I keep saying I am not here to play word games. If you have something to say, say it instead of trying to impugn my knowledge. If you can't do that don't bother responding.

I have already said it. So address it then instead of sidestepping! Answer the questions! All you are doing is evading the questions. I would think if you could you would have already...

 

[Jipsah]

True Name magic again

 

[FredVB]

So HOW do you get YeHoshua from "Yahweh"??

The names were pronounced with the starting syllable of God's name probably like that originally in earlier Hebrew history. But in later times it is known that all names with that syllable at the start had the 'Yeh' or 'Yeho' pronunciation. The pronunciation of the name of God as 'Yahweh' seemed to develop from the lettering indicating 'Yahoheh' or something very close to that, which said quickly enough has the sound just like 'Yahweh'.

 

[AbbaLove]

YaHaVaH​

Ahavah = The Hebrew verb אהב (ahav, pronounced ah-HAV, with the - bet pronounced as a "v") is a Biblical Hebrew word meaning "to love." The noun form of this word is אהבה (ahavah, pronounced ah-ha-VAH) meaning "love." Ahav and ahavah cover a broad spectrum of concepts of love.

Hebrew Words For Christians
a-ha'-va ('ahawa'): The river in Babylonia on the banks of which Ezra gathered together the Jews who accompanied him to Jerusalem. At this rendezvous the company encamped for three days to make preparation for the difficult and dangerous journey (Ezra 8:15).

www.hebrew4christians.com/Glossary/Word_of_the_Week/Archived/Ahavah/ahavah.html

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[Yeshua HaDerekh]

The names were pronounced with the starting syllable of God's name probably like that originally in earlier Hebrew history. But in later times it is known that all names with that syllable at the start had the 'Yeh' or 'Yeho' pronunciation. The pronunciation of the name of God as 'Yahweh' seemed to develop from the lettering indicating 'Yahoheh' or something very close to that, which said quickly enough has the sound just like 'Yahweh'.

Do you have evidence of this?

 

[FredVB]

Do you have evidence of this?

Well, yes, I have seen the evidence, I even posted it in the forums earlier, but now I would really have to look far for where I have it. But I do know it from that

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Well, yes, I have seen the evidence, I even posted it in the forums earlier, but now I would really have to look far for where I have it. But I do know it from that

YaH is a poetic abbreviation of The Name. No Hebrew names begin with YaH. YaH is ALWAYS a Theophoric SUFFIX. YeHoshua is in the OT...

 

[AbbaLove]

YaH is a poetic abbreviation of The Name. No Hebrew names begin with YaH. YaH is ALWAYS a Theophoric SUFFIX. YeHoshua is in the OT...

For poetic consistency as well as literal and spiritual emphasis your first name might be more representative ending with "ah" (Yeshu'ah'). It's not to late to make the correction . . . "The suffix 'ah' appears on the end of many Hebrew names and words, and means “of God” or “from God.”
e.g. Noah, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Josiah,, Micah, Jonah, Nehemiah, Mosiah, Judah, Zachariah, Jehovah, Hannah, Sarah, Leah, Rebekah, Deborah . . . last but far from least are: Messiah and Yeshuah.

GOD IS LOVE
(YaHaVaH)
www.hebrew4christians.com/Glossary/Word_of_the_Week/Archived/Ahavah/ahavah.html​

 

[FredVB]

Yah is poetic, of course, it is a very poetic name. This form was a final syllable in Hebrew names. There were beginnings for some names with the form Yeho.

The Hebrew letter designating a V sound at the front was softened to make a vowel sound where it was within a Hebrew word.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Yah is poetic, of course, it is a very poetic name. This form was a final syllable in Hebrew names. There were beginnings for some names with the form Yeho.

The Hebrew letter designating a V sound at the front was softened to make a vowel sound where it was within a Hebrew word.

a "V" sound...you mean Vav? Again, HOW do get YeHo from Yahweh?

 

[FredVB]

I am right and I know I am. I have evidence for it. Somewhere. You can't know without looking it up.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I am right and I know I am. I have evidence for it. Somewhere.

I am sure you do lol!

 

[Der Alte]

a "V" sound...you mean Vav? Again, HOW do get YeHo from Yahweh?

Here is how I get Yo and Yeho from Yahweh.

Names of God Jewish Encyclopedia
If the explanation of the form above given be the true one, the original pronunciation must have been Yahweh (

) or Yahaweh (

). From this the contracted form Jah or Yah (

) is most readily explained, and also the forms Jeho or Yeho (

=

), and Jo or Yo (

, contracted from

), which the word assumes in combination in the first part of compound proper names, and Yahu or Yah (

) in the second part of such names. The fact may also be mentioned that in Samaritan poetry

rimes with words similar in ending to Yahweh, and Theodoret ("Quæst. 15 in Exodum") states that the Samaritans pronounced the name 'Iαβέ. Epiphanius ascribes the same pronunciation to an early Christian sect. Clement of Alexandria, still more exactly, pronounces 'Iαουέ or 'Iαουαί, and Origen, 'Iα. Aquila wrote the name in archaic Hebrew letters. In the Jewish-Egyptian magic-papyri it appears as Ιαωουηε. At least as early as the third century B.C. the name seems to have been regarded by the Jews as a "nomen ineffabile," on the basis of a somewhat extreme interpretation of Ex. xx. 7 and Lev. xxiv. 11 (see Philo, "De Vita Mosis," iii. 519, 529). Written only in consonants, the true pronunciation was forgotten by them. The Septuagint, and after it the New Testament, invariably render δκύριος ("the Lord").​

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NAMES OF GOD - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Complete contents the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia.

jewishencyclopedia.com

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Here is how I get Yo and Yeho from Yahweh.

Names of God Jewish Encyclopedia​

If the explanation of the form above given be the true one, the original pronunciation must have been Yahweh (

) or Yahaweh (

). From this the contracted form Jah or Yah (

) is most readily explained, and also the forms Jeho or Yeho (

=

), and Jo or Yo (

, contracted from

), which the word assumes in combination in the first part of compound proper names, and Yahu or Yah (

) in the second part of such names. The fact may also be mentioned that in Samaritan poetry

rimes with words similar in ending to Yahweh, and Theodoret ("Quæst. 15 in Exodum") states that the Samaritans pronounced the name 'Iαβέ. Epiphanius ascribes the same pronunciation to an early Christian sect. Clement of Alexandria, still more exactly, pronounces 'Iαουέ or 'Iαουαί, and Origen, 'Iα. Aquila wrote the name in archaic Hebrew letters. In the Jewish-Egyptian magic-papyri it appears as Ιαωουηε. At least as early as the third century B.C. the name seems to have been regarded by the Jews as a "nomen ineffabile," on the basis of a somewhat extreme interpretation of Ex. xx. 7 and Lev. xxiv. 11 (see Philo, "De Vita Mosis," iii. 519, 529). Written only in consonants, the true pronunciation was forgotten by them. The Septuagint, and after it the New Testament, invariably render δκύριος ("the Lord").​

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NAMES OF GOD - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Complete contents the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia.

jewishencyclopedia.com

I am not going to waste my time arguing this with you again. Much of that has been proven false. Nothing written there explains it. That was written over 100 yrs ago. I have already explained to you it makes no sense yet you seem to be stuck in it. Dr Nehemia Gordon (a Biblical scholar and an expert in Hebrew) has done a ton of work on all of this. They say themselves "If the explanation of the form above given be the true one". I have already explained to you the Samaritan IaBe has a link to Jove (Jupiter)...

 

[Der Alte]

I am not going to waste my time arguing this with you again. Much of that has been proven false. Nothing written there explains it. That was written over 100 yrs ago. I have already explained to you it makes no sense yet you seem to be stuck in it. Dr Nehemia Gordon (a Biblical scholar and an expert in Hebrew) has done a ton of work on all of this. They say themselves "If the explanation of the form above given be the true one". I have already explained to you the Samaritan IaBe has a link to Jove (Jupiter)...

Again, I am not interested in the unsupported opinions of anonymous posters here. Your comment that "Iabe has a link to Jove" is total nonsense. They don't sound or look similar or alike. And OBTW I am not aware of anything that I have posted which you have proven false. If Gordon is such a great scholar quote him or quit mentioning him.
When I post I am not posting for your benefit alone but also for anyone who is interested in the topic.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Again, I am not interested in the unsupported opinions of anonymous posters here. Your comment that "Iabe has a link to Jove" is total nonsense. They don't sound or look similar or alike. And OBTW I am not aware of anything that I have posted which you have proven false. If Gordon is such a great scholar quote him or quit mentioning him.
When I post I am not posting for your benefit alone but also for anyone who is interested in the topic.

Research it yourself then instead of using a 120 year old source that has been proven wrong since it was published lol! I did not make it up! They are exactly alike! What do you think Yeshua meant in John 4:22? I HAVE quoted Gordon and others NUMEROUS times, but you will not accept it LOL! None of your posts are benefiting anyone but you lol! BTW, Theodoret didn’t even know Hebrew.

Josephus Flavius, “Antiquities of the Jews,” written in the 1st century, Book 12, section 258. “So they sent ambassadors,” meaning the Samaritans sent ambassadors, “to Antiochus, and an epistle, whose contents are these.” So we have a letter that the Samaritans sent sometime around 168 or 175 BC, some time in that period, to Antiochus Epiphanes IV. BTW, the Seleucid Emperor, his name was Antiochus Epiphanes. What does Epiphanes mean? It means, “the one who reveals himself”. He claimed to be a god, Antiochus. So they write to Antiochus an epistle, whose contents are these: “To King Antiochus, the god, Epiphanes,” meaning, “the one who reveals himself,” “a memorial from the Sidonians who live at Shechem,” meaning straight off they’re saying, “We’re not Israelites. We just live here.”
Our forefathers, upon certain frequent plagues,” mentioned in 2 Kings 17, “and as following an ancient superstition, had a custom of observing that day which by the Jews is called the Sabbath.” In other words, what they’re saying is, “We only worship Shabbat because we were attacked by lions, and it was the Jewish superstition, and this isn’t really something we believe in, we’re just doing it.” So according to Josephus, this is a letter that was sent sometime around 168 BC. “And when they had erected a temple at the mountain called Gerizim, though without a name they offered upon it the proper sacrifices.” What does that mean, “without a name?” What that means, “without a name…” Verse 261 in Josephus “We therefore beseech thee, our benefactor and savior…” referring to the king, “to give order to Apollonius, the Governor of this part of the country, and to Nicanor, the procurator of your affairs, to give us no disturbance, nor to lay our charge what the Jews are accused for, since we are aliens from their nation and from their customs.” “But let our temple, which at present has no name at all, be named the Temple of Jupiter Hellenius.” The Samaritans from Josephus rededicated their temple to Jupiter. Well, what’s Jupiter called in Latin? In Latin he’s not called Jupiter. First of all, there’s no J in Latin. In Latin, he’s called “Yupiter”. . So today in Latin they say, “Yov”, or “Jov,” for Jupiter, and that’s where you get in English where Sherlock Homes says, “Oh, by jove. I think I’ve got it.” He’s saying, “By Jupiter.”

 

[AbbaLove]

I Am right and I know I AM. I have evidence for it.

Yes, it's more about one's relationship with Him than man's controversial religious theology.

Then He said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 28 So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”