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"Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it." -Mike Tyson and I say dang strait.

When I was a child if I spit on a cop my mom would not have not had a problem with the cop for smacking me, she would have thendroppeed my pants and blistered my butt in front of everyone. In the quest to protect children from abuse we know protect them from simple discipline. and its not working.

quoting from The Faith of our Fathers:

Hi all. I grew up in the Catholic church but as I got older I grew distant from my faith. I'm currently going through a very difficult season in my life and that has found me rediscover my faith and I feel closer to God than I ever have. I'm feeling very excited today. As I was praying this morning and asking God to help me, I felt the Holy Spirit during my prayers for the first time that I can remember. It was an amazing feeling and really what I think I needed right now. While I still see a lot of difficult days ahead, for the first time in several years I feel like I can make it through with His help.

Peace in Christ.

The children of this current evil age (not “world”) “marry” and are given in marriage.

This is like the saying that they are “married to the job”…only it applies to people who “marry” their churches and their church teachings, commandments of men, etc.

It is a “strange wife” that the children of this age are married to where there is only death. There is no age-lasting life of Jesus found among the churches of men where they are deceptively teaching many strange teachings that only lead to death. They do not preach the true gospel of Jesus Christ among them that are perishing away in their mortal bodies to the grave. We must not be joined together with them or we are then "one flesh" with them in their mortal destruction of the body.

Luke 20:34-36
(34) And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world (AGE) marry, and are given in marriage:

But those who are accounted worthy to obtain the AGE that is coming are resurrected from OUT of the dead ones.

They hear His voice and awaken and depart from the dead churches….from the dead people where there is no age-lasting (eternal) life.
They are resurrected OUT from among the “dead” people of the churches of men.

They will continue to live here in this age (in their mortal bodies) until the coming age as they will then have the "eternal" (age-lasting) life of Jesus.

(35) But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world (AGE), and the resurrection from (OUT) the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

Neither can they die any more as they will have taken hold of “eternal life”….that is, an age-lasting life in this present evil age. They will be accounted worthy to live (have an age-lasting life) to the coming age.

They are equal unto the “angels”….messengers…for they preach the true good news that comes down from Heaven.

(36) Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

These are they which are not defiled with “women”…..that is, WIVES. They are redeemed among men. They leave the dead churches of men where there is no life.

Rev 14:4-5 KJV
(4) These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

And in their mouth is found no “guile”….no decoy “Jesus”. They preach the true gospel of Jesus Christ and not “another jesus” and another “gospel” that we all are currently hearing in every "church" gathering.

(5) And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

His wisdom shall deliver us from the “strange woman”.

Pro 2:10-22 KJV
(10) When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul;
(11) Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:
(12) To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things;
(13) Who leave the paths of uprightness, to walk in the ways of darkness;
(14) Who rejoice to do evil, and delight in the frowardness of the wicked;
(15) Whose ways are crooked, and they froward in their paths:
(16) To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words;
(17) Which forsaketh the guide of her youth, and forgetteth the covenant of her God.

Her “house” inclines unto death and her paths unto the dead.

(18) For her house inclineth unto death, and her paths unto the dead.

NONE that go unto “her” return again neither do they take hold of an age-lasting life. They do not go in right direction but the broad way that leads to their mortal death.

(19) None that go unto her return again, neither take they hold of the paths of life.
(20) That thou mayest walk in the way of good men, and keep the paths of the righteous.

The upright shall dwell in the “land”….that is, the earth….and the complete shall remain in it but the wicked shall be cut off from the earth and transgressors shall be rooted out of it.

(21) For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it.
(22) But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it.

Those who go to the churches of men are perishing away in their mortal bodies to the grave.

2Co 2:15-17 KJV
(15) For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:
(16) To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?

They are listening to the MANY who “corrupt”…that is, retail…the word of God. They are not hearing the true good news of Christ.

(17) For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

Quoted from The Faith of our Fathers by Cardinal Gibbons:

The Supremacy Of The Popes.​

Hey there,

About a year ago, I became a believer in Christ after being heavily involved in New Age practices and self-development for 5-6 years. The transition was tough, as I experienced nightmares and some friends and family distanced themselves from me. It felt like my whole world was turned upside down. One of the first things I focused on was working on my ego, dying to self, and becoming a new creation in Christ. After a few months, I delved into Bible studies, immersed myself in the Word, and sought to understand its relevance to my life. I let go of self-help, meditation, hypnotherapy, and subliminals for power.

Gradually, I began rebuilding myself with Christ, incorporating practices like cold showers, fitness, red light therapy, and nootropics to improve myself. Unfortunately, I fell back into listening to subliminal tracks to make myself smarter and more driven. The nightmares returned, and I sensed a negative change within me. I realized that this was not good; I was trying to change myself through my own efforts. Subliminals, in particular, led me astray as their content can quickly become adulterated and unknown. I repented but still don't feel great about it. The challenge is that I'm a teacher and mental coach. I've always believed in the need to understand and help oneself in order to improve. However, my faith teaches me to rely entirely on Jesus and use the Bible as the path to growth.

I struggle with not reverting back to the self-help trend, which I genuinely enjoy. I've always been drawn to the idea of self-improvement. However, like most self-help practices, it's rooted in not feeling enough and constantly striving to be better. On the other hand, God created us to create, work, and improve ourselves. it feels like 90-95% is good, but that 5% is rooted in evil. It changes very fast into visualisation, manifestation, etc. etc.

How do you guys navigate this? Especially for those who were part of the self-help community before coming to Christ. Do you have any tips or advice? I find it incredibly challenging to reconcile faith with worldly things. It almost feels impossible to me.

Kind Regards,

Jim

Sadly this is not speaking only of those who have never made a profession of faith in Jesus Christ. This is speaking largely, as well, of many who profess faith in Jesus Christ and who attend weekly gatherings of the church (or of the false church) and who believe that when they die that they are going to go to heaven. For many of them have put their trust in a diluted and altered gospel message of human origin which promises them forgiveness of all sins and heaven when they die, but regardless of how they live. But that is not biblical faith nor is it the gospel that Jesus and his NT apostles taught.

So, if these first four verses describe the kind of life that you are now living, and sin is your practice, and obedience to the Lord and holy living are not your practice, please know that the Scriptures teach that you are not in fellowship with Jesus Christ, you do not know God, and you are not born of God, but you are of the devil. And although you profess faith in Jesus Christ you will not inherit eternal life with him because obedience to God is not your practice, but sin is your practice. So you take God’s grace to you for granted, and you do not take his words seriously, so you don’t reject evil.

[Matt 7:21-23; Lu 9:23-26; Jn 6:35-58; Jn 15:1-11; Rom 1:18-32; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 2 Co 5:10,15,21; Gal 5:16-21; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 2:8-10; Eph 4:17-24; Eph 5:3-6; Col 1:21-23; Col 3:5-11; Titus 2:11-14; 1 Jn 1:5-10; 1 Jn 2:3-6; 1 Jn 3:4-10; Heb 10:23-31; 1 Co 10:1-22; Heb 3:1-19; Heb 4:1-13; Rev 21:8,27; Rev 22:14-15]


Now, in contrast to the wicked who make sin their practice and who do not obey the commandments of God, in practice, our God is faithful in all that he does, and in all that he says, and in all that he promises and warns us about, too. He is true to who he says he is and to all that he says that he will do. And his whole purpose in sending Jesus Christ to that cross to die for our sins was to deliver us out of our slavery (addiction) to sin so that we will now walk in holiness and in righteousness and in obedience to our Lord, in faithful surrender to him and to his will for our lives (see Romans 6:1-23).

And so he let us know in advance that if we choose to not obey him, and if we choose to continue in sin, in deliberate and habitual sin, that we should not expect that he will receive us into his heaven. He will not! But he will say to all who called him, “Lord,” but who did not do what he said, “I never knew you! Depart from me you workers of lawlessness” (see Matthew 7:21-23). For he told us that if we want to come after him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin) and follow (obey) him if we want to have salvation from sin and eternal life with God (see Luke 9:23-26).


God’s steadfast love and faithfulness is for all who know him. But if we say that we know God, but we do not obey him, in practice, we are liars who do not live by the truth (1 John 2:3-6). And if we claim to be in fellowship with Jesus Christ, but we still walk (in conduct, in practice) in sin, we are liars, and the truth is not in us (1 John 1:5-10). For if sin is what we practice, and not righteousness, we are not born of God, and we do not have eternal life with God, regardless of what faith in him we profess. For it is not lip service, but obedience and righteous living that God requires of us (1 John 3:4-10).

So, those who know the Lord are those who have died with him to sin, and who are continuing to die to sin, in practice, and who are walking in obedience to our Lord in holy living, in practice. For it is those who make righteousness their practice who are righteous in the eyes of the Lord, not those who merely make a profession of him as Lord and as Savior. For the upright in heart are those who are walking in moral purity, honesty, and faithfulness to the Lord, who humbly serve the Lord Jesus with their lives, and who do not plot evil on their beds, but who honor Christ with their lives.

Great Is Thy Faithfulness

Thomas O. Chisholm / William M. Runyan

Great is Thy faithfulness, O God my Father;
There is no shadow of turning with Thee;
Thou changest not, Thy compassions, they fail not;
As Thou hast been, Thou forever will be.

Summer and winter and springtime and harvest,
Sun, moon and stars in their courses above
Join with all nature in manifold witness
To Thy great faithfulness, mercy and love.

Pardon for sin and a peace that endureth
Thine own dear presence to cheer and to guide;
Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow,
Blessings all mine, with ten thousand beside!

Great is Thy faithfulness!
Great is Thy faithfulness!
Morning by morning new mercies I see.
All I have needed Thy hand hath provided;
Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me!

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I thought maybe we all could post our experiences, thoughts, tips and tricks in dealing with it. Even questions.
Maybe together a breakthrough.
Not to take away from the prayer wall thread.
Please share experiences

I find it interesting that even back in Paul’s day there were men, apparently, who were proclaiming the testimony of God with lofty (haughty, arrogant) speech and lofty (prideful, snooty) wisdom, which appears to be the implication in Paul’s words in stating that he was not like that. And chapter 1 of 1 Corinthians appears to support that, as well. For what is important is not how talented and gifted a speaker (preacher) might be in presenting the gospel, but it is how truthful and sincere and humble he might be in speaking the truth in love, even if the truth offends some people.

For we have many gifted and talented speakers today who are not speaking the truth of the gospel, but who have huge followings because they know how to say things in such a way as to draw large crowds to themselves. For they are smooth-talkers and charmers and entertainers who know how to persuade people to follow them and their teachings. Some of them are not particularly charming, though, but may use other manipulative means to persuade people to believe them and to follow them and their teachings. For they are wolves in sheep’s clothing pretending to be sheep, but not.

But Paul’s focus was on speaking the truth of the gospel, not in trying to charm people and in trying to get people to like him. His focus was on getting the truth to them, the whole counsel of God, and nothing altered or diluted that would appeal to and appease human flesh. And so he taught that Jesus died on that cross so that we would be crucified with him in death to sin, and so we would be raised with him to walk in newness of life in him, no longer as slaves to sin, but as slaves to God and to his righteousness. And he taught if sin is what we obey it will lead to death, not to life eternal.

Now Paul stated that he approached what he did, not in pride, and not in arrogance, and not in lofty speech and wisdom, but in a demonstration of the Spirit of God and of the power and wisdom of God. And he did so in weakness and in fear and much trembling. What do you think he meant by that? Well, based on my own experiences and on what I read of his, I would say that he was describing the kind of life we will live if we have the same approach to the preaching of the gospel as he did. For we will be rejected, hated, cast aside, unwanted, and even falsely accused of wrongdoing.

And he did and said what he did and said, in the manner in which he did and said them, so that our faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God. And this is essential that we get this truth. For so many professers of faith in Jesus Christ today are relying heavily on the teachings of human beings and they are not adequately testing what they are being taught against the Scriptures in their context. For so many will accept the message if it feels good regardless of whether or not it is truth. And that is a very sad present day reality that needs to change.

But what Paul stated is where we all need to be. We should be those who are diligent in making certain, to the best of our understanding, that what we are teaching is the truth of the Scriptures, in context. This is not saying that we are going to get everything perfect every time, but that we should show due diligence in making sure that what we are teaching is the truth and not the lies that so many people are teaching today. For they are taking the Scriptures out of their context and they are twisting them to make them say the opposite of what they say in context.

But so many people professing faith in Jesus Christ are ignorant of what the Scriptures teach, and not all of them are because they just haven’t been taught the truth. Many are willfully ignorant by ignoring the Scriptures they don’t like, and that teach them the full gospel message, because they prefer the lies, because the lies do not demand that they die to sin and live to God and to his righteousness. The lies give them permission to keep on in their deliberate and habitual sin against the Lord while promising them salvation from sin and eternal life with God guaranteed. But the lies end in death.

[Matt 7:21-23; Lu 9:23-26; Jn 6:35-58; Jn 15:1-11; Rom 1:18-32; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 2 Co 5:10,15,21; Gal 5:16-21; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 2:8-10; Eph 4:17-24; Eph 5:3-6; Col 1:21-23; Col 3:5-11; Titus 2:11-14; 1 Jn 1:5-10; 1 Jn 2:3-6; 1 Jn 3:4-10; Heb 10:23-31; 1 Co 10:1-22; Heb 3:1-19; Heb 4:1-13; Rev 21:8,27; Rev 22:14-15]

As the Deer

By Martin J. Nystrom
Based off Psalm 42:1

As the deer panteth for the water
So my soul longeth after You
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

You alone are my strength, my shield
To You alone may my spirit yield
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

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Paul is not overturning the Torah, rather, he no longer recognizes the authority of the rulers of the people in his day. I understand that this is not something MJ's are prone to hear, but it is surely the case. Paul teaches the new Way of understanding the Torah taught by the Teacher of Righteousness whose Testimony we now read in the Gospel accounts and his Gospel is no different from that Testimony. Some of these things may seem to be verging on the offensive to some MJ's, but please know that any offense is not what is intended herein, rather, the goal is to present the truth as straightforwardly and precisely as possible, without watering anything down to the point of trying to hide or avoid what may be considered unpleasant to some who may happen to read what is presented herein.

With that said, I have labeled this thread MJ Only because there is a companion thread in the "Sabbath and the Law" Board. If you are not an MJ, but wish to discuss or debate the material herein, you are free to respond at the following link:

Handwritten Dogmas and the Letter (Sabbath and the Law Forum Board).

The following translator understands the following passage quite well, even to the point that it is the Body of Meshiah which is to judge regarding what is mentioned in the text, meaning that the word order, (which is not all that important in Greek, but more critical in English translations), is not properly rendered in most if not all English translations. The phrase, "the Body of Meshiah" is more properly placed at the beginning of verse sixteen. This is why so many translators find the need to either add to this statement or change the meaning of soma from body to substance: for it does not read properly in English without adding to it or redefining words so as to make sense of it, and the reason why is because it does not belong where it is generally placed in English translations, (the end of verse seventeen).

Colossians 2:13-22 TS2009 W/Footnotes
13 And you, being dead in your trespassesc and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, Footnote: cEph 2:1.
14 having blotted out that which was written by hand against us – by the dogmasd – which stood against us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the stake. Footnote: dDogmas - also see Col 2:20 and Eph 2:15.
15 Having stripped the principalities and the authorities, He made a public display of them, having prevailed over them in it.
16 Let no one therefore judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths –
17 which are a shadow of what is to come – but the Body of the Messiah.e Footnote: eThe Body of Messiah is to give ruling on all matters, not the outsiders! See also Mat 18:15-20.
18 Let no one deprive you of the prize, one who takes delight in false humility and worship of messengers, taking his stand on what he has not seen, puffed up by his fleshly mind,
19 and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the Body – nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments – grows with the growth of Elohim.
20 If, then, you died with Messiah from the elementary mattersf of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to dogmas:d Footnotes: dDogmas - also see Col 2:14 and Eph 2:15. fSee Col 2:8 and Gal 4:3 and Gal 4:9.
21 “Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle” –
22 which are all to perish with use – according to the commands and teachings of men?g Isa 29:13. Footnote: gSee also Mat 15:8-9, Mar 7:6-7.

The translator footnote for verse seventeen rightly says that it is the Body of Meshiah that is to rule on all matters, not outsiders: but it appears that the translator misses one thing, that is, the meaning of "the Body of Meshiah" in this context, and almost no doubt the Body of Meshiah in this context concerns the Tanak Body of the Meshiah because he is the Word. The Tanak Body of Meshiah was raised up in Matthew 27:51-53, and entered into the holy city, which means Yerushalem of above, not Yerushalem of below, (see Hebrews 12:22-24).

Thus it is the Torah, Prophets, and Writings, the Tanak Body of Meshiah, which is to be our judge in the matters mentioned in that portion of the text above where this is mentioned. If therefore we correct the word order, as it appears to be meant in the Greek text, it should read and be rendered in the following manner.

Colossians 2:13-22
13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, he has made you alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses,
14 having blotted out the handwriting in dogmas that were against us, which were contrary to us: and he has taken it out of the way, nailing it to the stake:
15 having despoiled the principalities and the powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no one but the body of Meshiah therefore judge you in food, or in drink, or in respect of a feast day or a new month or the Shabbat:
17 which are a shadow of the things to come.
18 Let no man rob you of your prize by a voluntary humility and worshiping of the angels, dwelling in the things which he has seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
19 and not holding fast the Head, from whom all the body, being supplied and knit together through the joints and bands, increases with the increase of Elohim.
20 If you died with Meshiah from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to dogmas,
21 Handle not, Taste not, Touch not,
22 (all of which things are to perish with the using), after the commandments and doctrines of men?

Nowhere in the scripture is the Torah ever called dogmas, and Paul explains at the end of the portion above that he speaks of the commandments and teachings or doctrines of men: that is surely not speaking of the Torah. However dogma does appear in the Septuagint, and is always used for edicts, decrees, dogmas, and proclamations from kings and rulers. In the sense of the Colossians passage herein above it is no doubt the rulers of the people, the Sanhedrin, Elders, Chief Priests, Pharisees, Sadducees, and Scribes, and their handwritten dogmas and decrees which were against the people, and contrary to us all: for their interpretations of the Torah were based on a natural minded, outward, and physical understanding of the Torah, which we know from Romans 7:14 is spiritual, just as Elohim Himself is Spirit, (John 4:24), so His Word is Spirit, and likewise the Testimony of the Meshiah is Spirit, (John 6:63).

The handwritten dogmas and decrees of the Sanhedrin, Elders, Chief Priests, Pharisees, Sadducees, and Scribes, which were binding upon the whole nation, and which were contrary and against the people, are the same "letter" which Paul says kills.

The letter which kills is not the Torah. The letter which kills concerns the handwritten dogmas of the Sanhedrin, Elders, Chief Priests, Pharisees, Sadducees, and Scribes, which Paul speaks about in Colossians 2:14. Meshiah indeed triumphed over them and their carnal minded rulings, dogmas, and decrees, all over the place in the Gospel accounts for all to see: making a show of them and their hypocrisy openly before all the people, which is one of the main reasons why the rulers of the people had him killed.

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An animal cannot choose the path of celibacy or refrain from eating (fasting). Only a man can choose this path.

When we refrain from eating or choose the path of celibacy, our soul is in control of our flesh. Is this proof a man has a soul?

Is it safe to say,
Fasting & the path of Celibacy will destroy all sin.

Do we see this in the Gospel?

And everyone was dead…

Artwork created through the use of artificial intelligence.

f : X -> Y

X is the domain. Y is the co-domain. In mathematics, the image (or range) of a function is the set of all output y values that it produces.

Let X be the heavenly reality and Y be the earthly reality.

Genesis 1:

26a Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.”

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God made man according to a spiritual pattern.

Colossians 1:

15 [Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

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From God, Jesus came as His image, John 3:

13 No one has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven--the Son of Man.

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HELPS Word-studies:

1504 (eikṓn) assumes a prototype, of which it not merely resembles, but from which it is drawn.
1504 (eikṓn) then is more than a "shadow"; rather it is a replication.

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Strong's Greek: 1504. εἰκών (eikón) — 23 Occurrences

There were other kinds of usages of this word (icon), Matthew 22:

19 Show me the coin for the tax.” And they brought him a denarius. 20And Jesus said to them, “Whose likeness and inscription is this?” 21 They said, “Caesar’s.”

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Now, the domain is not the spiritual reality. In this case, from the high-up human emperor/Caesar, a G1504-likeness image was produced on the surface of a coin.

1 Corinthians 15 illustrates these different shades of meaning:

48 As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. 49Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shallf also bear the image of the man of heaven.

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The word image can mean a physical representation of a heavenly or earthly entity.

Hell is rarely preached on today. When it is, often it's just a mention in passing, something like, "And if you don't get saved, when you die, God will judge and you'll be in hell." And it's said softly, and nervously, as if the preacher fears to even say it, and is embarrassed by it. Very few times have I heard a sermon on hell, one that strikes the dread fear of God in a soul. The scripture says in Jude "some save with fear, pulling them out of the fire, hating even the garment spotted by the flesh."
When was the last time you saw the gravity of your sin, and squirmed? Even professing believers in Christ must know the utter vileness of sin, and how the LORD must punish it, and those who choose to live in sin over the will of the Father. It is good if it frightens you. If you know the fire is hot, why will you reach out into the flame? Why will you walk in the blazing coals that crackle and burn, searing everything amongst them?
And despite all this, it should be your hatred of sin, rather than a fear of the punishment in hell that drives you to your knees before a Holy God. Fear Him who hath power to destroy both soul and body in hell, yea, fear Him: that is, God the Father, who desires to pull you from the terrible flame.
Here then are some quotes by various preachers of the past regarding Hell....

AW Pink, Eternal Punishment
A Truth Lost in These Days
The subject before us is one that needs stressing in these days. The great majority of our pulpits are silent upon it, and the fact that it has so little place in modern preaching is one of the signs of the times, one of the many evidences that the Apostasy must be near at hand.
The need of giving this solemn subject a prominent place in our witness is apparent, for it is our bounden duty to warn sinners of their fearful peril, and to bid them flee from the wrath to come (Mat 3:7). To remain silent is criminal; to substitute anything for it is to set before the wicked a false hope.

Jonathan Edwards - Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God
“God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.”—Psalm 7:11
They are now the objects of that very same anger and wrath of God, that is expressed in the torments of hell; and the reason why they do not go down to hell at each moment, is not because God, in Whose power they are, is not at present very angry with them—as He is with many miserable creatures now tormented in hell, who there feel and bear the fierceness of His wrath.
The wrath of God burns against them, their damnation does not slumber; the pit is prepared; the fire is made ready; the furnace is now hot, ready to receive them; the flames do now rage and glow. The glittering sword is whetted and held over them, and the pit hath opened its mouth under them.

CH Spurgeon, Turn or Burn
We must sometimes use the knife where we feel that mortification would ensue without it. We must frequently make sharp gashes into men’s consciences, in the hope that the Holy Spirit will bring them to life. We assert, then, that there is a necessity that God should whet His sword and punish men, if they will not turn. Earnest Baxter used to say, “Sinner, turn or burn; it is thine only alternative. Turn or burn!” And it is so. We think we can show you why men must turn or else they must burn.
a. First we cannot suppose the God of the Bible could suffer sin to be unpunished. Some may suppose it; they may dream their intellects into a state of intoxication, so as to suppose a God apart from justice; but no man whose reason is sound and whose mind is in a healthy condition can imagine a God without justice.
But to imagine that there shall be no punishment for sin, and that man can be saved without repentance, is to fly in the face of all the Scriptures.

WC Nichols, The Terrors of Hell
Every part of the body will feel the pain of that fire. Men with severe stomach pains can be in great agony from that alone, but this pain will be far greater. Death from cancer is sometimes said to cause extreme pain in the body, but the pain of hell will be far worse. If your body were afflicted with many different and painful diseases all at the same time, you still would not begin to approach the pain of the damned in hell.
Men’s consciences shall be in torment in hell as well. Conscience is the worm that will not die, which the Scriptures speak of (Mar 9:48; Isa 66:24). Dives is told to “remember…in thy lifetime.” Men will be tormented with extreme pain, but they will also be tormented by their own memories. They will remember hearing of hell and scoffing at it. They will remember being warned and told to repent, or told that accepting the blessings of heaven without submitting to Christ as Lord falls short of salvation—but they took no heed to those warnings.

Horatius Bonar, Practical Religion
There is a day coming when sinners shall be afraid, and when terrors shall overtake them as a flood. They are not afraid just now; they eat and drink and make merry, as if they had no eternity to prepare for, no danger to alarm them. But it shall soon be different. What is now far off shall then be near, and sinners shall realize too late the horrors of that wrath from which they refused to flee. In the agonies of despair, when the flames are kindling round them, they will burst forth in such bitter outcries as these, “Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire, who among us shall dwell with the everlasting burnings” (Isa 33:14)? Oh, that shriek of agony! Oh, that awful outcry of surprise and despair! Careless sinner! That cry shall soon be yours; these words shall soon be the very language in which your wretched soul shall give vent to its hopeless anguish when it sees itself shut in within the flaming walls, and feels damnation sure! Oh, then, flee from the wrath to come! Make haste to escape from the devouring fire!

AW Pink,
What has been before us ought to make every professing Christian diligently examine himself. Weigh carefully the tremendously solemn issues that turn on whether or not you have really passed from death unto life. You cannot afford to be uncertain. There is far too much at stake. Remember that you are prejudiced in your own favor. Remember that you have a treacherous heart. Remember that the devil is the great deceiver of souls. Remember that “there is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death” (Pro 14:12). Remember it is written that “many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?” And then He will answer them, “I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity” (Mat 7:22-23).
There are many who now wear the guise of saints, who appear like saints; and their state, both in their own eyes and that of their neighbors, is satisfactory. And yet they have on only sheep’s clothing; at heart, they are wolves! But no disguise can deceive the Judge of all. His eyes are as a flame of fire: they search the hearts and try the reins of the children of men (Rev 1:14; Jer 17:10).

JC Ryle, Our Souls

But who is responsible for the loss of our souls? No one but ourselves. Our blood will be upon our own heads. The blame will lie at our own door. We shall have nothing to plead at the Last Day when we stand before the Great White Throne and the books are opened. When the King comes in to see His guests and says, “Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment?” (Mat 22:12), we shall be speechless. We shall have no excuse to plead for the loss of our souls.
But where does the soul go when lost? There is only one solemn answer to that question. There is but one place to which it can go, and that is hell. There is no such thing as annihilation. The lost soul goes to that place where the worm dies not and the fire is not quenched—where there is blackness and darkness, wretchedness and despair forever. It goes to hell—the only place for which it is [suited], since it is not [suited] for heaven. “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God” (Psa 9:17).
We live in an age of great temptation. The devil is going about and is very busy. The night is far spent. The time is short. Do not lose your own soul.

Hi,I started to smoke because my own parents are mistreating me and I had no one to support me.I tried praying a lot but my prayers were unanswered and I had the idea that if I die of lung cancer everything will be better.I realise this is not the answer but it's very hard to live all by yourself.This isn't about stress this is about the continous state of struggling,loneliness and pressured by others.

I have no life and I have no idea what to do!

After the magi leave Herod the star appears and leads them to where Jesus is , so why didn't the star appear to them and lead them to Jesus before they reached Jerusalem ?
Had it done so , this would have stopped Herod from trying to kill Jesus and murdering innocent children along the way.

More information coming to light on the early migration of Human Beings.

"Earliest Homo sapiens fossils found north of the Alps

The style of stone tool found at Ranis has also been discovered elsewhere across Europe, from Moravia and eastern Poland to the British Isles, according to the studies. Archaeologists call the tool style Lincombian-Ranisian-Jerzmanowician, or LRJ, in reference to the places where it was first identified.

To identify who made the artifacts, the team excavated Ilsenhöhle cave near Ranis from 2016 to 2022. When the cave was first excavated in the 1930s, only the tools were found and analyzed. This time around the team was able to dig deeper and more systematically, ultimately uncovering human fossils there for the first time."

Bones found in 8-meter-deep pit may ‘fundamentally change’ history of humans in Europe

Leviticus 11:13-19 KJV
13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15 Every raven after his kind;
16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Deuteronomy 14:11-18 KJV
11 Of all clean birds ye shall eat.
12 But these are they of which ye shall not eat: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
13 And the glede, and the kite, and the vulture after his kind,
14 And every raven after his kind,
15 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
16 The little owl, and the great owl, and the swan,
17 And the pelican, and the gier eagle, and the cormorant,
18 And the stork, and the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Source texts for the understanding which follows herein below:

Matthew 13:3-4 KJV
3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:

Matthew 13:18-19 KJV
18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

Mark 4:3-4 KJV
3 Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow:
4 And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.

Mark 4:14-15 KJV
14 The sower soweth the word.
15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Luke 8:4-5 KJV
4 And when much people were gathered together, and were come to him out of every city, he spake by a parable:
5 A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it.

Luke 8:11-12 KJV
11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

So the unclean flyers of the heavens are the Wicked, the Devil, and the Satan.

Matthew 12:43-45 KJV
43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

Luke 11:24-26 KJV
24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

So when the unclean spirit is cast out of the man he goes and associates unto himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they come to his former house which is the man, and enter therein, and dwell there, and thus the eighth is of the seven, (Rev 17:11), for the first which was cast out returns with seven others, and the first is therefore also the eighth, (as Tubal-Qain brings forth Qain, according to the pattern from the beginning).

EDIT: I have labeled this thread MJ Only because there is a companion thread in the "Sabbath and the Law" Board. If you are not an MJ but wish to discuss or debate the material herein you are free to respond at the following link.

Unclean Sky Watchers (Sabbath and the Law Forum Board)

Leviticus 11:13-19 KJV
13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15 Every raven after his kind;
16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Deuteronomy 14:11-18 KJV
11 Of all clean birds ye shall eat.
12 But these are they of which ye shall not eat: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
13 And the glede, and the kite, and the vulture after his kind,
14 And every raven after his kind,
15 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
16 The little owl, and the great owl, and the swan,
17 And the pelican, and the gier eagle, and the cormorant,
18 And the stork, and the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Source texts for the understanding which follows herein below:

Matthew 13:3-4 KJV
3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:

Matthew 13:18-19 KJV
18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

Mark 4:3-4 KJV
3 Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow:
4 And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.

Mark 4:14-15 KJV
14 The sower soweth the word.
15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Luke 8:4-5 KJV
4 And when much people were gathered together, and were come to him out of every city, he spake by a parable:
5 A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it.

Luke 8:11-12 KJV
11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

So the unclean flyers of the heavens are the Wicked, the Devil, and the Satan.

Matthew 12:43-45 KJV
43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

Luke 11:24-26 KJV
24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

So when the unclean spirit is cast out of the man he goes and associates unto himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they come to his former house which is the man, and enter therein, and dwell there, and thus the eighth is of the seven, (Rev 17:11), for the first which was cast out returns with seven others, and the first is therefore also the eighth, (as Tubal-Qain brings forth Qain, according to the pattern from the beginning).

BBC said:

In bringing the lawsuit against Orbis Business Intelligence Ltd, Mr Trump's legal team said the dossier contained claims that were inaccurate and breached his data protection rights.

In Thursday's ruling in London, Mrs Justice Steyn DBE said she did not make any judgement on the allegations themselves.

But she found Mr Trump's claim had not been brought within the six-year limitation period.

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So he missed the filing deadline. Would it have been at all interesting had it gone to trial?

Meet the pet detective who has helped track down and reunite 330 lost dogs with their owners for free—using a thermal imaging drone.

She doesn’t accept a penny for her work, saying that the joy when an owner is reunited with their animal is all the reward she needs.

Erica Hart, 44, got her first drone as a present from her father in April 2018.

After practicing with it, Her dad told Erica a dog was missing in their local area and suggested she use her drone to help find it.

Erica called the owner of the missing dog—a schnauzer that went missing on a walk—and went out to help him find it, which she did.


Word spread and Erica said it “snowballed” from there. She has since been on 330 dog rescue missions with her drone. She’s even kept a few of the pooches she’s found. From Scotland to Somerset in the UK, Erica is the first one called in the nation for such missions.

“I don’t just help find dogs though, I have found, cats, emus, cows and helped mountain rescue locate missing people,” said Erica. “It is in my nature to help out.”

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I'd like to talk about this clearly normal amount of human traffickers arrested recently that's in no way the result of this administration's failure to attempt to secure the border....

In all seriousness, if you're wondering who these people are, you're reading only left wing media sources...and they've been referring to these people as "sponsors" as if it's some mystery who would pay for women and children who they don't know to come live with them. Normally, this is the sort of thing the federal government law enforcement agencies would be doing...but they're busy chasing down those ever elusive white supremacists who are going to be a serious threat any day now.

If you're unfamiliar with how this travesty happened or just how large it is....there's a nice old whistleblower lady from HHS that testified before Congress about the fact that under Biden...we've been sending women and children to human traffickers with somewhere between little and no vetting whatsoever just to deal with the unsustainable number of illegals crossing the border.

Thoughts?

My wife and I are planning on going on some mission trips this year and maybe next. First one is to Wisconsin to a Spanish language church. Next year, maybe Nicaragua. It would be helpful, not mandatory, to have some abilities in Spanish. I've read the reviews of the various language programs and now I'm wondering if anyone has used any of them? Anyone have any experience with any of them?