Thinking about becoming a Seventh Day Adventist

[Isabelle30900]

Hi all! I ran across a guy named Doug Batchelor on YouTube. He's a Seventh Day Adventist and I've been listening/watching him. It is becoming clear to me that I can easily agree with the beliefs. Any advice?

TIA

You wrote that post many years ago, so I don’t know what you’re up to. I m a SDA about to send a letter to the conference to be removed from their lists. I was baptized in 2018 and since then read the Bible from the beginning to the end over and over. I ve also read many Ellen White books. I ve come to the conclusion that all their theories about 1844 are wrong and don’t fit with the Bible. Reading Paul is a big eye opening. They couldn t prove me wrong. And I talked to people at the top of the Adventist church. I was told that many don’t believe in it either but they remain in the church (Positions? pay checks? Friends?)

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You wrote that post many years ago, so I don’t know what you’re up to. I m a SDA about to send a letter to the conference to be removed from their lists. I was baptized in 2018 and since then read the Bible from the beginning to the end over and over. I ve also read many Ellen White books. I ve come to the conclusion that all their theories about 1844 are wrong and don’t fit with the Bible. Reading Paul is a big eye opening. They couldn t prove me wrong. And I talked to people at the top of the Adventist church. I was told that many don’t believe in it either but they remain in the church (Positions? pay checks? Friends?)

Hey there.

I am an SDA Christian and sorry this was your experience. There is a shaking going on the in church many will leave, many will come in. Unfortunately, not everyone who claims to be SDA is SDA and I have experienced this firsthand. I came from Pastor Batchelor's church which was so biblical and when I moved to another state and was surprised how different the churches were. Sometimes I felt like I was in a Sunday church where emotion, music etc took precedence over sound doctrine. After a year of search, I am blessed to have found one that is centered on God's Word and such warm fellowship. Sadly a lot of progressive people have come into the church wanting to change it and we have to remember even Jesus had a Judas. Just curious if your desire to leave the SDA has led you not to believe in the 4th commandment, as there is other seventh day commandment keeping churches out there.

I would suggest you make a post in the Traditional Adventist forum on your questions about Paul. Traditional Adventists

I know we would be happy to answer them as best we can. I personally believe what a lot of people do with Paul's writings is isolate them and never try to reconcile them to what Jesus taught and lived. Paul was a servant of Christ and never undermined His authority Mat 28:18, he had a way with speech that was difficult to understand even in his time and some people are comfortable having Paul contradict himself and Jesus, but I think if we dive deeper, we will see if actually harmonizes perfectly with Christ. I am happy to try to answer any of these questions, this forum is not the place for it, but if you want to post something here Traditional Adventists I am sure a few of us would be happy to discuss.


Regarding 1844 if you have the time, here is a study that goes through this timeline and how it matches the bible perfectly. Its long 112 30 minute episodes with 2 pastors and 2 lay people going through each chapter of Revelation and Daniel and will take you through the timeline all by the bible.

 

[Isabelle30900]

Hey there.

I am an SDA Christian and sorry this was your experience. There is a shaking going on the in church many will leave, many will come in. Unfortunately, not everyone who claims to be SDA is SDA and I have experienced this firsthand. I came from Pastor Batchelor's church which was so biblical and when I moved to another state and was surprised how different the churches were. Sometimes I felt like I was in a Sunday church where emotion, music etc took precedence over sound doctrine. After a year of search, I am blessed to have found one that is centered on God's Word and such warm fellowship. Sadly a lot of progressive people have come into the church wanting to change it and we have to remember even Jesus had a Judas. Just curious if your desire to leave the SDA has led you not to believe in the 4th commandment, as there is other seventh day commandment keeping churches out there.

I would suggest you make a post in the Traditional Adventist forum on your questions about Paul. Traditional Adventists

I know we would be happy to answer them as best we can. I personally believe what a lot of people do with Paul's writings is isolate them and never try to reconcile them to what Jesus taught and lived. Paul was a servant of Christ and never undermined His authority Mat 28:18, he had a way with speech that was difficult to understand even in his time and some people are comfortable having Paul contradict himself and Jesus, but I think if we dive deeper, we will see if actually harmonizes perfectly with Christ. I am happy to try to answer any of these questions, this forum is not the place for it, but if you want to post something here Traditional Adventists I am sure a few of us would be happy to discuss.


Regarding 1844 if you have the time, here is a study that goes through this timeline and how it matches the bible perfectly. Its long 112 30 minute episodes with 2 pastors and 2 lay people going through each chapter of Revelation and Daniel and will take you through the timeline all by the bible.

Hello…. Thank you very much for taking time to answer. I m grateful to adventists because they helped me understand the Bible very well and pushed me to read and ask questions about it. I talked to the seventh day baptists but they don’t have many churches. This is to answer your question about the 4th commandment. I still believe it’s better to rest on Sabbath, the physical one but my aim is the eternel Sabbath with God. Jesus is the new alliance we have with God and Paul wrote that whatever day we worship is not a big deal. The church I was baptized at has drifted too far from God : adultery, living or not with a lover, working on sabbaths (all those ones having a position in the church!)and inviting the members to go to a catholic church to watch “the chosen”. I talked to the pastor and she replied she was backed by the conference. I went to another church where predications are at a very low level. one Saturday a month they close the church having a gathering on Friday evening because they want to spend their time with their family and friends.
thank you for the link to watch the video but I read Daniel 8 and 9 in hebrew too and I know very well what 1844 is about. I ve also read books Ellen G. White wrote where some statements she made where absolutely not biblical. it would be very long to give examples here. I can just finish with a pastor telling me “I blindly believe in 1844! I can’t prove you wrong”. Many don’t believe in those theories and won’t say it publicly . They told me privately.
I want to end positively. This debate isn’t going to give us salvation or not (which is our aim, to all of us). It’s just very sad…but we have to go on adoring God, keeping His commandments And the faith in Jesus

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Hello…. Thank you very much for taking time to answer. I m grateful to adventists because they helped me understand the Bible very well and pushed me to read and ask questions about it. I talked to the seventh day baptists but they don’t have many churches. This is to answer your question about the 4th commandment. I still believe it’s better to rest on Sabbath, the physical one but my aim is the eternel Sabbath with God. Jesus is the new alliance we have with God and Paul wrote that whatever day we worship is not a big deal. The church I was baptized at has drifted too far from God : adultery, living or not with a lover, working on sabbaths (all those ones having a position in the church!)and inviting the members to go to a catholic church to watch “the chosen”. I talked to the pastor and she replied she was backed by the conference. I went to another church where predications are at a very low level. one Saturday a month they close the church having a gathering on Friday evening because they want to spend their time with their family and friends.
thank you for the link to watch the video but I read Daniel 8 and 9 in hebrew too and I know very well what 1844 is about. I ve also read books Ellen G. White wrote where some statements she made where absolutely not biblical. it would be very long to give examples here. I can just finish with a pastor telling me “I blindly believe in 1844! I can’t prove you wrong”. Many don’t believe in those theories and won’t say it publicly . They told me privately.
I want to end positively. This debate isn’t going to give us salvation or not (which is our aim, to all of us). It’s just very sad…but we have to go on adoring God, keeping His commandments And the faith in Jesus

Thanks for the message back!

I would happy to look at the verses you have in mind you think Paul is saying not keeping the Sabbath matters anymore. We should worship God 24/7 365 but Jesus related true worship to keeping His commandments Rev 14:12 and false worship with keeping traditions over the commandments of God Mat 15:3-14 I do not believe Paul is countermanding the teachings of Jesus, but as stated, he says things in a way that can be hard to understand 2 Peter 3:16. This forum is not a debate forum, but I would be happy to discuss with you in the Traditional Adventist forum.

Consider posting your questions on 1844 here Traditional Adventists. The videos I posted goes over it as well. Like I said, not all SDA's are SDA's sadly, and to me this is a version of breaking one of God's commandments as being a false witness. Luckily God will sort all of that out soon enough along with said Christians being in adulterous relationships etc. Its why we shouldn't look to others as what they are doing or not doing, but keep our eyes on Christ.

Thanks for being friendly and I wish you nothing but the best!

 

[BobRyan]

You wrote that post many years ago, so I don’t know what you’re up to. I m a SDA about to send a letter to the conference to be removed from their lists. I was baptized in 2018 and since then read the Bible from the beginning to the end over and over. I ve also read many Ellen White books. I ve come to the conclusion that all their theories about 1844 are wrong

You have free will of course and can choose anything you wish.

Reading Paul is a big eye opening

Indeed he is a great Christian of faith and was inspired by God to write a good deal of the New Testament.

. They couldn t prove me wrong.

I suppose that is theoretically possible depending on the topic and who you contact.

And I talked to people at the top of the Adventist church.

such as? One of our leading scholars?

I was told that many don’t believe in it

I don't know of any Adventists who don't believe in the Bible, new testament, Gospel etc.

either but they remain in the church (Positions? pay checks? Friends?)

I don't know of any Adventist in leadership who claims that at his position - but I suppose it is theoretically possible, I have only been a member for about 55 years - so there could be a situation out there that I am still now aware of.