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How to absolutely know for sure you're saved

Carl Emerson

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I have started a thread on this topic that folks might like to join if they are interested.

 
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You'll know when you die. We can speculate all we want, but that's the only 100% proof.
And yet, the Lord clearly wants us to know and, in fact, admonishes/commands us to be certain that we are (saved, that is), and that on this side of the grave. For instance,

2 Corinthians 13
5 Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test?
1 John 5
13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

The question is, how? How do we examine ourselves/what are some of the many things in our lives that we look for to see if we've passed the test .. or not?

God bless you!!

--David
p.s. - here's a quote from pastor and theologian A. W. Pink about one of the ways that will help us know. What are some of the others?

Pink - Grieving Over Sin.jpg
 
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We only need to concern ourselves about seeking the truth all our lives. The truth matters more than our personal salvation.

Why am I telling you this instead of telling you how to get saved or how to make sure you're saved?

Because all of it would be futile exercise if what you knew from the beginning turned out to be false. I don't have the answer because nothing have stood up to scrutiny so far.
 
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We only need to concern ourselves about seeking the truth all our lives.
Jesus says rather to seek the Father and His will. But yes, seeking truth can be futile because man keep inserting ourselves between God and seekers.
 
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We only need to concern ourselves about seeking the truth all our lives. The truth matters more than our personal salvation.

Why am I telling you this instead of telling you how to get saved or how to make sure you're saved?

Because all of it would be futile exercise if what you knew from the beginning turned out to be false. I don't have the answer because nothing have stood up to scrutiny so far.
By Grace you are saved through faith (not truth)

We are saved by The Truth, not by seeking truth.

It is a gift we receive, not something we find...
 
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By Grace you are saved through faith (not truth)
If that is not the truth, then you're in trouble.

The Bible can be twisted in meaning or context in almost any agenda with either good or evil outcome. Just because a denomination is popular means it possesses the way of salvation. Broad is the way to destruction, only few will find the narrow gate. Christianity isn't minority religion in the world, in fact, there are more Christians than Atheists, more Christians than any other religion.

Whether salvation is easy, difficult, or even a "free gift", none of that matters if it isn't the truth. It becomes nothing more than a futile exercise
 
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If that is not the truth, then you're in trouble.

The Bible can be twisted in meaning or context in almost any agenda with either good or evil outcome. Just because a denomination is popular means it possesses the way of salvation. Broad is the way to destruction, only few will find the narrow gate. Christianity isn't minority religion in the world, in fact, there are more Christians than Atheists, more Christians than any other religion.

Whether salvation is easy, difficult, or even a "free gift", none of that matters if it isn't the truth. It becomes nothing more than a futile exercise

Maybe I should explain a bit more...

An encounter with the Spirit of Truth is essential in becoming born again but the pursuit of Truth is not salvific in itself.

A fundamental flaw in modern Christianity is falling prey to the sin in the garden - seeking to know as a self centred pursuit. This was Satans weapon of choice to control matters in the garden.

We see folks chasing every seminar that moves but such activity does not bare the fruit of revival.

Hey I'm glad God didn't plan it that way otherwise only the intellectually gifted would be saved.

No it's about encounter with a Loving Father and being called home to His order, and departing from ours.

We are not in trouble...

But unless you become as a little child you cannot enter the Kingdom of God.

No one of age on earth is incapable of that.
 
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If it really depends only on myself I'm not gonna make it
David, take your eyes off of yourself and look to Jesus. Just before he died on the cross, Jesus said "it is finished." He did all that God requires for our salvation at the cross. It's about Him, not about us. The only thing God wants from us is that we admit our need of a savior and trust his finished work on the cross as full payment for our sin.
Reading my testimony might help you; below is a link to it here at CF.

Regards,

John

 
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Ok so i'm freaking out right now over here. I need to absolutely, 100% foolproof, 100% watertight, no doubt know for sure if I'm saved. I'm a believer and baptized but I cannot say 100% for sure if I'm saved. I've been fighting and searching everywhere for the past 5 years but I cannot know it for sure unless God told it to me personally. I've asked other believers, spend hundreds of hours on the internet searching and analysing every article there is on this topic, thousands of hours ruminating in my head but I cannot come to absolute certainty. I cannot go to the bible because there are enough verses that hinge on the possibility that I might not be saved and I need to know 100% for sure. I cannot live by faith alone, there is too much at stake here, I NEED TO KNOW FOR SURE!
You will know.
 
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Ok so i'm freaking out right now over here. I need to absolutely, 100% foolproof, 100% watertight, no doubt know for sure if I'm saved. I'm a believer and baptized but I cannot say 100% for sure if I'm saved. I've been fighting and searching everywhere for the past 5 years but I cannot know it for sure unless God told it to me personally. I've asked other believers, spend hundreds of hours on the internet searching and analysing every article there is on this topic, thousands of hours ruminating in my head but I cannot come to absolute certainty. I cannot go to the bible because there are enough verses that hinge on the possibility that I might not be saved and I need to know 100% for sure. I cannot live by faith alone, there is too much at stake here, I NEED TO KNOW FOR SURE!
Have you done this?

Romans 10:9: Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Does your life exhibit these?

Galatians 5:22-23: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

and not this?

Galatians 5:19-21: Now the works of the flesh are evident:
sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger,
rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy,
drunkenness, orgies, and things like these.
I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
 
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p.s. - here's a quote from pastor and theologian A. W. Pink about one of the ways that will help us know. What are some of the others?


Thanks for sharing this , I grieve everyday over my sins so I know I must be on the right path :praying:
 
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