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Disregard Conspiracy Theories

Isaiah 8:
11 For the Lord spoke thus to me with a strong hand,
and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying:
12 “Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’
Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy,
Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.
13 The Lord of hosts, Him you shall hallow;
Let Him be your fear,
And let Him be your dread.
14 He will be a sanctuary,
But a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense...

"Don’t be fooled by those who say such things, for
bad company corrupts good character."

Matthew 24:11
Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.

Beware of false prophecies that manifest as "conspiracy theories".

More about : Water Baptism

Reader..

What if you are born again, and yet you die before you are water baptized...........

What if you are the dying Thief on the Cross who was saved, went with Jesus, but was never water baptized...........

What if you are on "death row", and they are walking you to the Electric Chair at 5am...., and i stop you on your way there, and ask you if you are ready to receive Christ as you Savior, and you tell me that you do now trust in Christ with all your heart.... and want to publicly confess this before they put you to death...........and you do, and then they kill you.

What if you are 88 yrs old, and you are in the Hospital, in the Oncology (Cancer) ward, and you are dying... and will be dead in the next 4 mins.
You are all by yourself, in the dark at 3am...., and you "believe on Jesus with all your heart... and accept Him into your heart by faith".

What if you are in a Communist Country that does not allow Bibles or Christians, and you are in a jail there, and you "trust in Christ with all your heart" while you are in THEIR Jail......

Now, none of those BELIEVERS can be "sprinkled" "immersed", "dunked" or otherwise water baptized.

Are they Saved, ?

Of course they are, and no water baptism was found for them.

So, Reader, if you are under the mind control of a Water Cult, that has you believing that WATER is required for SALVATiON< then i just showed you REAL LIFE CASES where this water cult theology, is proven to be a LIE.

Final answer?

Do not believe a lie., and do not teach a Lie.

God wants me to stand up and speak out against 'woke mob', says Dr Phil

TV personality Phil McGraw - popularly known as Dr Phil - says he feels compelled to speak up about some of the "strange" ideas being pedalled in modern America.

Dr Phil joined the stage at Pastor Ed Young's Fellowship Church in Grapevine, Texas, to promote his new book, We've Got Issues: How You Can Stand Strong for America's Soul and Sanity.


In a sit-down interview with Young, Dr Phil said that family in America was "under attack" and that Christians need to fight back using the tools at their disposal, including their "active relationship with God".

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Wisconsin Democrat leadership continues drop box push

Kaul wrote that, by spring 2021, 570 drop boxes were placed across 66 of Wisconsin’s 72 counties and the share of Wisconsin voters casting an absentee ballot increased from 6% to 30% from 2002 to 2022.
Drop boxes that are not physically monitored make it easier for election cheating.

Dying daily with both death and new life in your body. ???

What is the death in their bodies and the fear of God that the apostles experienced? Are they marks of a true disciple of Christ? Are they death pains which are actually birth pains? Do these pains come after your birth like it's backwards?

2 Corinthians 5:11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are well known to God, and I also trust are well known in your consciences.

2 Corinthians 4:10 always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body.

Romans 8:22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies.

24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.

1 Corinthians 15:31 I affirm, by the boasting in you which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.

Isaiah 66:8 “Before she goes into labor,
she gives birth;
before the pains come upon her,
she delivers a son.
8 Who has ever heard of such things?
Who has ever seen things like this?
Can a country be born in a day
or a nation be brought forth in a moment?
Yet no sooner is Zion in labor
than she gives birth to her children.
9 Do I bring to the moment of birth
and not give delivery?” says the Lord.
“Do I close up the womb
when I bring to delivery?” says your God.


Psalms 116:3 The [a]pains of death surrounded me,
And the [b]pangs of Sheol [c]laid hold of me;
I found trouble and sorrow.
4 Then I called upon the name of the Lord:
“O Lord, I implore You, deliver my soul!”
5 Gracious is the Lord, and righteous;
Yes, our God is merciful.
6 The Lord preserves the simple;
I was brought low, and He saved me.
7 Return to your rest, O my soul,
For the Lord has dealt bountifully with you.



Pastor's daughter to proceed with legal action against Hillsong

A former student of Hillsong College is to proceed with legal action against Hillsong Church following the collapse of talks to reach a settlement.

Anna Crenshaw, daughter of Ed Crenshaw, senior pastor of Victory Church in Pennsylvania, claimed she was indecently assaulted by Hillsong employee Brian Mays at a social gathering in 2016, when she was 18 years old.

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A house of prayer and not politics

Economic fears and worldly thinking is not from God. My house is one of prayer and not a den of thieves. We have not because we ask not. We need no politics. We don't know what tomorrow will bring

Matthew 21:13 And He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you have made it a ‘den of thieves.’ ”

John 10:0 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

1 John 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.

Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

James 4:1 Where do [a]wars and fights come from among you? Do they not come from your desires for pleasure that war in your members? 2 You lust and do not have. You murder and covet and cannot obtain. You fight and [b]war. [c]Yet you do not have because you do not ask.

3 You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures.

4 [d]Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”?

6 But He gives more grace. Therefore He says:

“God resists the proud,
But gives grace to the humble.”

Humility Cures Worldliness​

7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Lament and mourn and weep! Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.

Do Not Judge a Brother​

11 Do not speak evil of one another, brethren. He who speaks evil of a brother and judges his brother, speaks evil of the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. 12 There is one [e]Lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. Who[f] are you to judge [g]another?

Do Not Boast About Tomorrow​

13 Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow [h]we will go to such and such a city, spend a year there, buy and sell, and make a profit”; 14 whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away. 15 Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we shall live and do this or that.” 16 But now you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.

17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.
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Alternative cosmology maybe key to warp drive tech

I've been thinking
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I found a strong correlation between "gravity anomalies" occurring within galaxies and the "expansion" of the Universe. Such as anomalies that defy gravity and anomalies that approximate gravity effects without detectable matter. Mainstream theories pin this to "dark energy" and "dark matter" respectively. But IMHO, there maybe no exotic processes involved. Neither dark matter nor dark energy is involved in these "gravity anomalies. References below this post.

The correlating factor between intergalactic and extragalactic gravitational anomalies is strong polarization of light. For example, of high red-shift celestial objects and light along the galactic plane.

Mainstream theories break this down via two different processes (dark energy and dark matter). However I found a single process that can reproduce both cosmological "expansion" of the universe and the anomalous orbital velocities (gravity anomaly) of stars around galaxies.

When gravity is fully or partially blocked along a boundary or region, it will reproduce both the anomalously high orbital speed of stars around galaxies and also cause far away galaxies to "defy" gravity and accelerate away from us.

I think some of the processes that causes strong polarization of light as it travels through space (electromagnetic fields, ions, relativistic particles, dust, or the combined effects of these agents, etc) present in both intergalactic space and in abundance along the galactic plane may also be partially blocking gravity fields either directly or indirectly.

It may sound ridiculous or even dumb and stupid but only IF you assume my theory only accounts for blocking the gravity field of a local celestial body such as that of a planet, or a star, or a whole galaxy.

However, if you also account for the gravitational energy of the whole universe, you'll come up with some insane numbers because the gravitational energy density of the whole universe would be many orders of magnitude greater than Earth's and much closer to the energy density at the event horizon of a black hole.

For example, the Universe's Schwarzschild Radius exceeds its observable boundary. In a manner, roughly-speaking, though not necessarily true, our universe may be a really really large black hole and we're living inside of it. But whether this statement is true or not, it does show ridiculous amounts of gravitational energy filling every cubic cm of space.

We don't normally feel the black-hole levels of gravity density because it's pulling in all directions canceling each other out resulting to a net force of zero. But if you can create an energy field that can block gravity, the space near this field will only see cosmic gravity moving in more or less same direction - generally in a direction moving away from the gravity-blocking field. This can either cause far away galaxies to accelerate away from us or for galaxies to manifest gravitational pull well in excess of its detectable mass - if the gravity-blocking field fills the void between galaxies and exists in greater densities in space surrounding galaxies.

Based on this hypothesis, Far away galaxies are not really being repelled away but rather "accreting" or merging towards distant galactic clusters no longer detectable due to extreme red-shifts. Not otherwise possible if gravity is propagating unimpeded throughout the Universe.

The proposed shapes of the Universe, many that is pinched would support the "condensation theory" than expansion.
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One might expect via this theory the Earth's Van Allen belts may produce similar effect. However, the effect may be negligible because the ions involved are "light", for example, individual protons or electrons.

So far, the effect may only be manifesting whenever heavy ions are involved and in large quantities only possible in intergalactic space. Amplifying the effect down to practical vehicular size may require the heaviest nuclei that can be contained with powerful magnetic fields and lasers.

I'm not sure how feasible this concept is. But summing it up, a gravity blocking field would separate extremely powerful but opposing cosmological gravitational fields into more or less monodirectional fields which might better explain cosmological patterns in far less complicated fashion and might be utilized some day and even in the near-future, practical faster-than-light interstellar / deep space travel technology.

References:
Heavy ions surround Galaxies


Light polarization around our galaxy

Relation of polarized light and red-shifted objects

Magnetic field gradients around galaxies

Schwarzschild radius of Universe

Shape of the Universe

Dipole Repeller

Galactic repulsion

Im proud to be un-American. Count it as rubbish. Being all things to all people for the gospel sake.

We become all things to all people as Paul did. He would be neither a republican or a Democrat. He would be a friend and not a political enemy. Jesus wouldn't be Republicans and democrats warring with native Americans over land, resources and gold.

I don't see the church when I see politics. I see pride, bitterness, rivalry, division, pain, wounds, tears, fear and contention. American patriotism and politics are rubbish and a stumbling block.
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The Sealed Scroll and Israel's Restoration

I have been studying a possible interpretation of the seven seals in their relation to the restoration of the nation of Israel. Jesus said in Matthew 24:32-34 that the generation seeing the signs He spoke about earlier in the chapter would not pass away until all those things would be complete. A typical generation, according to Psalm 90:10 is between seventy and eighty years.

Zechariah 6 presents four chariots headed in four directions, each represented by a color, to survey the land in relation to Jerusalem's desolation. Per verse 6, the black horses go north, the white horses go west, and the dappled horses go south. That can only mean that the red horses go east.

If we apply that context and description to the four horsemen in Revelation 6, we can deduce that there purpose is to restore Jerusalem to the promised seed once more. The first horseman rides a white horse west and is given a bow to conquer with. This was Israel, along with his false messiahs, taking over the land of Palestine. The second horseman rides on a red horse east and is given a large sword to take peace away from the earth. This was the Palestinian intifadas that broke every peace treaty Israel made with Palestine. The third horseman rides a black horse north and the rider is given scales to unjustly deny people of food. This was the Gaza Blockade that has been in effect since 2006, which was the year the government of Hamas was voted into power. The fourth horseman, named Death, rides a pale horse south and is followed by the grave. This is the war currently going on in Gaza against Hamas, which has left so many cities an utter desolation and has killed so many people. However, and very importantly, the prosperity of earthly Jerusalem is a wilderness for the residents of heavenly Jerusalem.

Jesus said the gospel of the kingdom would be preached to all nations and then the end would come (Matt 24.14). The fifth seal shows souls of martyrs under the altar questioning when God would avenge them. They see Babylon flourishing and heavenly Jerusalem as a wilderness. They see that the gospel has gone out to all nations and reached Jerusalem again, but the end had not yet come. This indicates that earthly Jerusalem has to fill up its measure of wickedness by persecuting the church. This results in the true and faithful witness of Jesus Christ in earthly Jerusalem, which seals the 144,000 Israelites during the sixth seal.

The sixth seal is the spiritual restoration of earthly Jerusalem because of the testimony during the fifth seal. Zechariah 12 shows that God would pour out a spirit of grace and supplication upon the house of David and Jerusalem after he gives Jerusalem military success against her enemies. Jesus also preached that there would be signs in the heavens and distress upon earth preceding the election of the remnant. In this way, they are given two wings of an eagle to flee to a place prepared for them in the wilderness, earthly Jerusalem. This is a tell that Jacob's Distress is not part of the sixth seal. Rather it is the judgment of the surrounding nations and the spiritual healing of the elect remnant.

Thoughts?

Vitamin D Improves Immunity to Cancer And Reduces Tumor Growth in Mice, Study Finds

Researchers have found that vitamin D improves immunity to cancer by encouraging the growth of a type of gut bacteria in lab mice.

Given a diet rich in vitamin D, they had better immune resistance to cancers and improved responses to immunotherapy treatment.

The team found that vitamin D acts on cells in the intestine, which in turn increases the amount of a ‘good’ bacteria called Bacteroides fragilis. This microbe gave mice better immunity to cancer as the transplanted tumors didn’t grow as much.

The team from the Francis Crick Institute, National Cancer Institute, National Institutes of Health and Aalborg University in Denmark reported their findings in the journal Science.

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In Memory of May 4th

WARNING.. age restricted graphic content
May 4, 1970. Kent State. A different time, a different rebellion, the same old sick society.


Hearing drums at Mass

We used to have a band play at Easter.
I was thinking about it recently.
What put it to mind was how folks 'seek' emotion at Church and I recall drums get emotions rolling.
I like drums so it woke me up and at that time, a kid in fact, I didn't mind it.

Reflecting on it, it was really a distraction.
I could not make out the songs because the drums.
I was more interested in the drums and beat than what it was about.
SO yeah, emotional or exciting things at Church that are sought out, replace not enhance.

Emotions do not stay regular.

Terrified after being overwhelmed with 'joy'

I've been walking with Jesus for years now I believe. What's disappointing is the progress. I've made many positive strides, don't get me wrong. I've done things now I never would have thought possible.

I guess what scares me the most is the seriousness of Sin. How destructive it really is. It makes me angry more than anything but a little sad as well.

I'm still on medications. Lots actually. I think the idea of quitting them scares me. I have a tendency to (in my mind) hold a list up to myself of every single thing wrong or that ever went wrong blame myself for it.

I fear that if I ever got off medications, instead of it being a positive thing I'd just be uncovering another wound rotting away cause it's been there so long.

Ron DeSantis Bans Lab-Grown Meat


FLGov said:
“Today, Florida is fighting back against the global elite’s plan to force the world to eat meat grown in a petri dish or bugs to achieve their authoritarian goals,” said Governor Ron DeSantis. “Our administration will continue to focus on investing in our local farmers and ranchers, and we will save our beef.”

It seems not to be for health or safety but to keep meat prices profitable for Florida farmers, aka Big Ag. There is also a bit of the ick factor for banning bug-based "meat". I don't see the point in banning it as it seems a hard sell to the US public, anyway.

Is it just authoritarian showboating or what?

We have much hope. God will help us.

I have mental problems and i have experienced great hardship in my mind. I got through it by hoping in Jesus Christ the whole time.

Never give up hoping in Jesus, no matter the failure, fear, confusion or gloom. Persevere always. If you fall down get back up. God will help us.

Bye bye self checkout

Greedy corporations don't want to pay people wages and replace them with machines. They deserve what they get but personally, I like self-checkout because I hate standing in line. I won't pay extra for it though.

What the apostles were actually like and what they looked like

The apostle were dressed in rags and were poor. They were out of their minds for God at times. Paul had a messenger of Satan torment him. He didn't trust his own judgment but waited on God to judge.

if he came to your church you might think that he's a crazy or demon possessed homeless man

Matthew 10:24 “A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. 25 It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house [Beelzebub, how much more will they call those of his household! 26 Therefore do not fear them. For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.

2 Corinthians 5:13 For if we are beside ourselves, it is for God; or if we are of sound mind, it is for you.

2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure.

1 Corinthians 4:. 3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you or by a human [a]court. In fact, I do not even judge myself.

4 For I know of nothing against myself, yet I am not justified by this; but He who judges me is the Lord.

5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one’s praise will come from God.

Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be [c]puffed up on behalf of one against

8 You are already full! You are already rich! You have reigned as kings without us—and indeed I could wish you did reign, that we also might reign with you!

9 For I think that God has displayed us, the apostles, last, as men condemned to death; for we have been made a spectacle [e]to the world, both to angels and to men.

10 We are fools for Christ’s sake, but you are wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are distinguished, but we are dishonored!

11 To the present hour we both hunger and thirst, and we are poorly clothed, and beaten, and homeless. 12 And we labor, working with our own hands. Being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we endure; 13 being defamed, we [f]entreat. We have been made as the filth of the world, the offscouring of all things until now.

4 I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you. 15 For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

16 Therefore I urge you, imitate me.

17 For this reason I have sent Timothy to you, who is my beloved and faithful son in the Lord, who will remind you of my ways in Christ, as I teach everywhere in every church.

Communion sickness

Paul said that eating the Lord's flesh and blood in an unworthy manner results in being sick. What is this sickness? I believe it's spiritual illness like spiritual blindness and uncircumcised ears and hearts.

1 Corinthians 11:30 For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep.

Ephesians 5:14 Therefore He says:

“Awake, you who sleep,
Arise from the dead,
And Christ will give you light.”

Have you ever tried to help someone and he doesn't exactly appreciate it?

Have you ever tried to help someone and they don't exactly appreciate it?

I tried to help a homeless person who was living in his car and had car issues. It's been a strange experience and I don't know if I should go into details because, who knows (?), maybe he comes to this forum?

But in any case, I was willing to get car parts and even pay for his tags to be updated but he always had some reason for dragging his feet on getting the car going. He asked me for items that I frankly did not think he needed at all. But some day, the city is going to get tired of him staying in one spot. Neighbors already have.

There is more to this story, but again, I don't feel like airing his business in public so maybe I should leave it at that but I am wondering about other stories of trying to help people and they just don't seem to... uh... appreciate it or what have you. I mean, it seemed the guy was irritated w/ me recently and I couldn't figure out WHY. Maybe it was because I had some business of my own to deal with and didn't spend time socializing much the last time I saw him? God knows. But I do have problems myself...

Anyway, I was getting irritated feeling HE was irritated w/ me when I have been kind and etc... makes no sense. Maybe he knows more about the car's problems than he is telling? Maybe getting insurance and all the other stuff feels like too daunting a task, but as they say "a journey of 1000 miles begins with one step."

You have any stories like this?

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Is it worth it to get home Internet if you already use your phone for Internet?

I am kind of wondering if it is worth it to sign up for home Internet for computer use if you already use your phone for using the Internet. I might think I would save money if I did not sign up for home Internet. However I am wanting to use a computer to install some really complicated Mobile Device Management software on a phone, so I think I may want to get Internet. The library won’t work for the installation because of peculiarities with the Wi-Fi network.



I already use a bluetooth keyboard with my phone so I’m not sure I really need Internet. If I got Internet, I can imagine I would use a computer to stream worship music on YouTube with my morning coffee. I think I may want both a laptop and a desktop. The desktop could be setup at the dining room table, and the laptop could be used on the deck of my apartment.

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