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You'll own nothing and be happy

That's the mantra from Klaus schwab and WEF , and all to be achieved by 2030.
So let's see how their going so far.

How is your CD collection going?...ANSWER: - Oh I don't own CDs anymore , I get all my music on line , Spotify etc.
How is your DVD collection going ?..ANSWER - Oh I don't own DVDs anymore , I get all my movies online.
How is your book library going?....ANSWER - Oh I don't own books anymore , I do all my reading online , Kindle etc.

We own none of the above , Spotify , Kindle etc , some one else doe's , and we are happy ...:clap:
Wonder what the next 6 yrs will bring..? More happiness I guess....lol
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Climate protesters arrested after painting Stonehenge monument orange


The latest act by Just Stop Oil was quickly condemned by Prime Minister Rishi Sunak as a “disgraceful act of vandalism.”

Wiltshire Police said the pair were arrested on suspicion of damaging one of the world’s most famous prehistoric monuments.

Stonehenge was built on the flat lands of Salisbury Plain in stages starting 5,000 years ago, with the unique stone circle erected in the late Neolithic period about 2,500 B.C. Some of the stones, the so-called bluestones, are known to have come from southwest Wales, nearly 150 miles away, but the origins of others remain a mystery.

Just Stop Oil is one of many groups around Europe that have gained attention — and received a lot of blowback — for disrupting sporting events, splashing paint and food on famous works of art and interrupting traffic to draw attention to global warming.



This part:
The group said it acted in response to the Labour Party’s recent election manifesto. Labour has said if it wins the election on July 4, it would not issue further licenses for oil and gas exploration. Just Stop Oil backs the moratorium but said it wasn’t enough.

In a statement, the group said Labour, which is leading in polls and widely expected by pundits and politicians to lead the next government, needs to go further.


...so when the Labour party (who already said they wouldn't issue further oil and gas licenses) isn't quite "progressive enough" (but let's be honest, no matter what the Labour Party committed to, these doofuses would've found a reason why it's not enough in order to have a reason to do something like this, (being radical protestors is 90% of their personality after all...without that, they'd literally have nothing interesting to say about themselves), it's time to start vandalizing to virtue signal how radical they are. Because as we all know, there's a direct correlation between how orange you're wiling to stain something completely unrelated to the environment, and how much you care about the environment. It makes perfect sense!. They do need to raise awareness after all. Because nobody had ever heard of the issue of climate change until they started spaypainting and throwing soup at random things.

Brother Nathanael must be stopped

He has been active on Twitter/X just involved in politics and with some controversial figures (isn't he a monk?) and he posted a tweet calling out "miscegenation"/mixed-race marriage because Candace Owens is married and has children with a white man.


Doesn't he have an abbot/bishop to be reported to? He is making Orthodoxy look bad.

Another prayer request for Janie please.

She is back in the hospital. Her blood pressure has spiked, serious headache, dizziness, and numbness in her arm. They've ran all kinds of tests last night and today, and have yet to determine the cause. Thank you so much. The last time you all prayed for her was very effectual!

Ant-Man’ Actor Paul Rudd Chooses Jesus Christ as Historical Figure to Meet

The actor best known for his roles in the Ant-Man and Ghostbusters franchises didn’t hesitate when recently asked which historical figure he would most like to meet. It’s Jesus Christ.

Paul Rudd answered as much while discussing his latest film, Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire. He said people sometimes laugh when he answers “Jesus,” even though he believes it’s an obvious reply. His answer came during an interview with IGV Presents, which noted that Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire opens with a trip back in time.

“If you guys could go back in time and spend a day with anyone in history, who would you choose?” Simon Harkness asked Rudd and co-stars Mckenna Grace and Finn Wolfhard.

“Anyone from history, who would we choose?” Rudd replied. “I know my answer:

Jesus Christ.”

Grace and Wolfhard, already laughing from one of his previous answers, started giggling again.

“Laugh all you want,” Rudd said, standing firm.

Wolfhard then questioned if Jesus was real.
“He existed,” Rudd said. “Wouldn’t you want to spend some time with Him and go, ‘Jesus, what’s the deal?’”

“It’s genuinely a great answer,” Wolfhard acknowledged.

“Fantastic answer,” Grace said.

“You say this, and people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you can’t say that.’ And I’d say, ‘Why?’ That’s who I would choose,” Rudd said.

It’s not the first time Rudd has given such an answer. In 2018, Rudd told Vulture, “People say, ‘Who would you have dinner with,’ and I say, ‘Jesus Christ.’ And people laugh. They think that I’m kidding.”

Rudd is Jewish.

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I think I committed the unforgivable sin

Sorry in advance because I know this topic IS talked about a lot but I really need help.

I feel that gods spirit will never draw me again or come back. At first god really did his best for me, he delivered me from many bad situations and he kept calling me to repent because he knew the possibly irrevocable damage my sins would have on me. At the time I thought I was saved and born again because the Holy Spirit was talking to me and god was revealing himself to me but I wasn’t even though I bore some fruits and I got comfortable and started rebelling.

I didn’t listen though and never had much change , even after the Holy Spirit gave me some knowledge and awareness surrounding my sins. I’ve always been rebellious and have always been stubborn anyway.


I kept consciously persisting and hardening my heart. Similar to the Pharisees, I had a good knowledge of Jesus and the gospel but I kept consciously rejecting god even then. I don’t have that knowledge anymore though because I refused to retain god and respond to his calls like I was supposed to. I then willingly confused god and the devil thinking that I could taunt/test god.

I might’ve even done so to push the Holy Spirit and his convictions away so that I may commit the terrible sins I wanted to commit. I did everything I could to push god away basically.

I never once listened to him and I was stiff necked. I knew the path I was going down but I thought I could push still and find mercy because I was young.

There were moments where I took gods kindness as an opportunity to sin more. I know I’m to blame and everything but I really just want some hope and to return to god. In terms of the severity of my sins it’s pretty bad and has hurt others very badly. Spiritually and physically. I know god needs to bring his justice on behalf of those who I’ve hurt with my sins. I know I’m responsible for the actions I took and I should’ve resisted the temptations to commit these sins.

I know an unsaved person can commit this sin which is why I’m almost sure that I committed it. I have a small idea on what I can do to repent actions wise but I’m scared that it won’t be enough or it will be false repentance.



When I think about it I just pity myself or condemn myself or

be almost nonchalant about it like ‘what was I expecting honestly’ which is why I feel I might not even care. In the end I know the root is pride. All I have is remorse for my sins, not a repentance that could lead to real change.





I also recognize that with the wording- it could make god seem bad and like I’m blaming him- I could be unconsciously blaming god but I’m trying not to.



I welcome any rebuke or sternness because maybe that’s what I need.

Prophecy soon

It seems 2024-5 is the time for earth shaking to begin, no?? New Madrid...? California coast and tsunami....? I would take a wild guess and say by Dec. 24 there will be some earth changing calamities
and people need to be ready. We have had the easy times. They are ending. Be good to other Christians. Thats what Christ would do...or a lot of people have it wrong..

Louisiana classrooms now required by law to display the Ten Commandments

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House Bill 71, approved by state lawmakers last month, mandates that a poster-size display of the Ten Commandments with “large, easily readable font” be in every classroom at schools that receive state funding, from kindergarten through the university level.

The legislation specifies the exact language that must be printed on the classroom displays and outlines that the text of the Ten Commandments must be the central focus of the poster or framed document.

In a joint statement prior to the governor’s approval of the measure, the American Civil Liberties Union, the American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana, Americans United for Separation of Church and State and the Freedom from Religion Foundation said that the bill was “unconstitutional” and that “many faith-based and civil-rights organizations oppose this measure because it violates students’ and families’ fundamental right to religious freedom.”

From the Bill:

The Ten Commandments
I AM the LORD thy God.
Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make to thyself any graven images.
Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor thy father and thy mother, that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his cattle, nor anything that is thy neighbor's."

Did priests also carry the ark?

Joshua 3:

3 They commanded the people, saying, “When you see the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God with the Levitical priests carrying it, then you shall set out from your place and go after it.
Did priests also carry the ark?

Not usually, Numbers 4:

5 Whenever the camp sets out, Aaron and his sons are to go in, take down the veil of the curtain, and cover the ark of the Testimony with it.
15 When Aaron and his sons have finished covering the holy objects and all the furnishings of the sanctuary, when the camp is to set out, after that the sons of Kohath shall come to carry them by the poles, so that they will not touch the holy objects and die. These are the things in the tent of meeting that the sons of Kohath are to carry.
The priests packed up the holy objects. The Kohathites had the responsibility to carry them. It was a special occasion of a miracle in Jos 3:

13 When the feet of the priests who carry the ark of the LORD—the Lord of all the earth—touch down in the waters of the Jordan, its flowing waters will be cut off and will stand up in a heap.”
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Hebrews It! (Legal Study, Chapter 3) Pt. 13c

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Continued from Hebrews It! (Legal Study, Chapter 3) Pt. 13b

12 Watch out, brothers, so that there won’t be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart that departs from the living God.
John 16:9 "The world's sin is unbelief in Me".
John 8:11 “Neither do I condemn you,” said Jesus. “Go, and from now on do not sin anymore.”
John 5:14 Later Jesus found him at the temple and said to him, “See, you are well again. Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you.”
2 Peter 2:21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness (Jesus) than, after knowing it (HIM), to turn back from the holy command delivered to them.
James 2:8 8 If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right.
There is absolutely no room for misunderstanding here. Unbelief in Jesus' ability to save sinners is absolutely dangerous on levels that are not easy to discuss. We are confronted with two hard biblical facts by all of biblical Canon. Fact number one is that we are not capable of Living up to the standards of the Stone Law, nor are we capable of righteously judging other's by it. Fact number two; Built right into the Law were mechanisms that tested Human Hearts! Kill so and so for doing this or that. Yet.. Mercy was written into the Law. We will look into this in a fairly simple passage of Moses to see this in play.​
Exodus 22:20 “Whoever sacrifices to any gods, except the Lord alone, is to be set apart for destruction.
I have studied the Law, because much of it is used to sustain NT Apostolic writings, within the very writings. This is the most common device of God within the Law. He places a warning against Apostasy as an OPENING BOOKEND, then the Law carries forward to express things that are to be viewed in a Spiritual sense.​
21 “You must not exploit a foreign resident or oppress him, since you were foreigners in the land of Egypt.
God started this statement out with Israel in the literal Bondage of Egypt. He likens people outside of Israel to being in bondage just as Israel was in bondage with the way this verse turns. He is commanding Compassion and Understanding within Israel towards "Foreigners" within their camp.​
22 “You must not mistreat any widow or fatherless child.
This, in and of itself is a massively compassionate verse. However, it gets deeper than this. A "widow" or an "orphan" can take on many meanings and happen due to all types of occurrences. By the stone law, killing the father of a child and the husband of the child's mother is a very act that "Oppresses the Widow and the Fatherless child". Not only this, but once the widow and child are without their Male authority, they become vulnerable to being used and abused by people in power. It is easy to follow through with the logic that "Orphans and Widows' are to be held in compassion beyond the initial verse that warns Israel against mistreating or oppressing foreigners that are within the residence of Israel. Instead, it is very fair to surmise that Widows and Orphans that are OUTSIDE the camp of Israel are VERY IMPORTANT to be treated with compassion. This isn't stopping here, however, it is also under an open bookend that warns against Apostasy! This goes forward to suggest that Mistreating Widows and Orphans of any Nation, no matter what god they worship or who they are, is a form of Apostasy to God! If a person reads the law to simply answer the question, how do I ensure that I am saved by God and how do I ensure that I am Righteous by the Law, they will simply discount the needs of others and ignore the implications of mercy in fear of losing their GOOD STANDING with God. However, if a person stumbles on to this Bookend pattern of the law and spiritually evaluates the Law, they will find that God underwrote MERCY as HIS Highest order of Law! God was parabolically revealing within this mechanism of DEATH that to SERVE HIM is to be a person of MERCY, while to serve DEATH is to be a person of Death (aka Satan).​
23 If you do mistreat them, they will no doubt cry to Me, and I will certainly hear their cry. 24 My anger will burn, and I will kill you with the sword; then your wives will be widows and your children fatherless.
It probably looked like I was nuts as I exegeted Love and Mercy into the Law, yet here we are seeing a reinforcing statement that it might be wise to evaluate MERCY into the Law. This verse is outright saying that, not only will God hear the PAIN of those MISTREATED by people that claim to represent HIM, but He will BURN HOT with ANGER against those who don't act out of mercy. I mean, God is FIRST PERSON saying, I WILL slay you with the Sword, if you Don't show Mercy to these people. That's something to take note of.​

25 “If you lend money to My people, to the poor person among you, you must not be like a moneylender to him; you must not charge him interest.
Here, again, God is specifying that the "POOR" person among you must not be charged interest "IF" money is leant to them. There are two takes on this. One take is that MONEY shouldn't be given to "the Poor" because they don't manage it well. Another take is that when people are in NEED, they NEED the money so badly that they can be driven further into poverty by Giving to them, with expectations of getting in return. However, it takes humility to give money to an impoverished person that may continue to be impoverished, without expecting a single thing in return.​
Isaiah 66:2 “For My hand made all these things, Thus all these things came into being,” declares the Lord. “But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.​
Last OP Pt. 13b we quoted this verse: Luke 18:13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

If a person thinks that POVERTY in scripture is only and all about MONEY, they have missed a very critical point within Scripture. Poverty could be having zero social standing within a Body of Believers because of some pattern of visible sin. Poverty could be being at the mercy of one's piers because a person is such a deeply merciful person that they get run over rough shod due to their meek and lowly ways! A person that speaks about HOW SINFUL the world we live in is and points to specific types of sin has fallen into a very dangerous place. We looked at the Pharisee and the Tax Collector last OP Pt. 13b, eventually we will look at the Unforgiving, Forgiven Debtor Parable. That is the next step that goes beyond the Pride of the Pharisee within the Parable about the Tax Collector and the Pharisee! It's a big spiritual deal!​

I'll just put it this way. God can and will forgive ALL Manner of Sin found within the OLD Covenant Law, which may be to the very dismay of many believers in Jesus. An Unmerciful, judgmental, hard heart, on the other hand can be a massive deal that God won't forgive. I'll write out this sentence very carefully. A sexually immoral woman who struggles with massive addictions will make it into Heaven long before the Judgmental Believer that points fingers at her and hates her for being such a disgusting sinner. I didn't just make this sentence up, but was paraphrasing from a few very famous NT passages. God looks at the heart, while mankind looks to the flesh.​
26 “If you ever take your neighbor’s cloak as collateral, return it to him before sunset. 27 For it is his only covering; it is the clothing for his body. What will he sleep in? And if he cries out to Me, I will listen because I am compassionate.
There is a subtle pattern that we see being established, here! God gives these heavy handed Laws and keeps restating that He is compassionate! There's spiritual meaning in this verse, also, but we will move on to the closing of the bookend.​
28 “You must not blaspheme God or curse a leader among your people.
Here it is. We started just a few verses back that warned against Apostasy and found deep spiritual meaning within the verses contained after that warning. Now, we have the words "Blaspheme God", which literally parallels with Apostatizing God. This statement closes the Spiritual bookends.
13 But encourage each other daily, while it is still called today, so that none of you is hardened by sin’s deception.

1 Corinthians 5:1 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife. 2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have gone into mourning and have put out of your fellowship the man who has been doing this? 3 For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. 4 So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.

6 Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch of dough? 7 Get rid of the old yeast, so that you may be a new unleavened batch—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old bread leavened with malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.​

9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God..... 18 Some of you have become arrogant, as if I were not coming to you. 19 But I will come to you very soon, if the Lord is willing, and then I will find out not only how these arrogant people are talking, but what power they have. 20 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power. 21 What do you prefer? Shall I come to you with a rod of discipline, or shall I come in love and with a gentle spirit?
2 Corinthians 2:1-11 So I made up my mind that I would not make another painful visit to you. 2 For if I grieve you, who is left to make me glad but you whom I have grieved? 3 I wrote as I did, so that when I came I would not be distressed by those who should have made me rejoice. I had confidence in all of you, that you would all share my joy. 4 For I wrote you out of great distress and anguish of heart and with many tears, not to grieve you but to let you know the depth of my love for you. 5 If anyone has caused grief, he has not so much grieved me as he has grieved all of you to some extent—not to put it too severely. 6 The punishment inflicted on him by the majority is sufficient. 7 Now instead, you ought to forgive and comfort him, so that he will not be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. 8 I urge you, therefore, to reaffirm your love for him. 9 Another reason I wrote you was to see if you would stand the test and be obedient in everything. 10 Anyone you forgive, I also forgive. And what I have forgiven—if there was anything to forgive—I have forgiven in the sight of Christ for your sake, 11 in order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes.
I've been exegeting like a madman. I'm going to leave these sets of verses taken from first and second Corinthians without Exegesis, so they can be evaluated at face value. They are frequently quoted apart from the order that Paul wrote them out to be evaluated by. This was a very awful drama that occurred within the church of Corinth. We will exegete this set of verses tomorrow. Today, if you so desire. Evaluate this set of verses from the standpoint of MERCY vs. JUDGMENT. This is a seriously intense passage to do this with. It's complicated and Paul left some "BREAD CRUMBS" within his repetitious words. There's a lot going on here. I'll leave one more hint before I sign off for today's OP.

Galatians 2:9,10,11,12,13,14
1 Timothy 5:20
2 Corinthians 5:16
Acts 15:1
Jude 1:3

I will close with this final thought. Tomorrow will be a difficult Exegesis. It is what one could consider a very difficult scriptural matter to process. I look forward to seeing all of you there. All Love in our most Compassionate and Merciful Jesus Christ to All of you.

OP Pt 13d to be continued tomorrow.
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Thailand passes landmark bill legalizing same-sex marriage, first in Southeast Asia when law takes effect in 120 days

Thailand’s Senate voted Tuesday to pass a marriage-equality bill, putting the country on track to become the first in Southeast Asia to legalize same-sex marriage.

The legislation, which passed with 130 senators in favor, four opposed and 18 abstaining, allows any two people, regardless of gender, to get engaged or married. It was approved by the House of Representatives in March and now must be endorsed by King Vajiralongkorn, which is considered a formality. Once it is published in the official journal of the Thai government, the law will go into effect after 120 days.

A 2023 Pew Research Center survey found that 60 percent of adults in Thailand supported legalizing same-sex marriage. Thavisin, the prime minister, has emphasized that the Thai government is committed to marriage equality and touted Bangkok’s Pride parade this month.

The legislation that passed Tuesday also swaps out terms such as “husband” and “wife” in Thai marriage law for gender-neutral language, such as “spouse.” One member of the Senate fought against that change. Retired army Gen. Worapong Sa-nganet said cutting those terms would be “a destruction of the family establishment in the most violent way.”

He added that “if there’s no term ‘husband’ or ‘wife’ in the law, it would disappear from the Thai language."

Seems unlikely.

This is going to almost seem silly...

but after suffering all day from kidney stones.. I prayed before peeing and passed one (and it wasn't that painful surprisingly), hopefully now I don't need the meds or any further intervention
So I'm thankful, it may seem small but just.. I need small things like that to attribute to God and be thankful for

How do intellectual beliefs or doctrines become spiritual

What I am asking is how if one has a non-christian spirituality what can they do to become a christian spiritually. Lets say someone was a christian at one point, but started to explore outside of biblical spirituality, and eventually lost their way spirituality - what is refered to by some as spiritual adultery. What if they really embraced another spirituality eg. some sort of neo-gnosticism / New age spirituality and eventually was no longer a christian spiritually (can that happen?) How does one repent in that case if they really have embraced another spirituality?
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This GOP-leaning political polling firm (Rasmussen natch) has turned into a purveyor of anti-vaccine propaganda

Column: This GOP-leaning political polling firm has turned into a purveyor of anti-vaccine propaganda

It’s true that Rasmussen [always] had a detectable pro-Republican “house effect,” in polling parlance — but one that was consistent enough to compensate for in published polling averages.

But something has happened to Rasmussen in recent years. Not only have its results become more sharply partisan, favoring Republican and conservative politicians, but it also has increasingly promoted right-wing conspiracy theories on topics such as race relations, election results and — perhaps most troubling — COVID vaccines and COVID origins.

538, now owned by ABC News, dropped Rasmussen from its polling averages in March. ABC took that step after Rasmussen failed to respond suitably to a questionnaire 538 submitted asking Rasmussen to explicate its polling methodology. Rasmussen published ABC’s query on its website under the headline, “ABC News: ‘Answer Our Questions -- Or Else!’”

[Understanding the methodology is obviously crucial to putting the results in context.]

Earlier this month, Rasmussen tweeted the results of polls it conducted in June 2023 and last month, claiming to find that 1 in 5 Americans believe they know someone who died from a COVID vaccine.

[OK, that's a poll result. I have no reason to doubt it, but it's as meaningful about the truth of the matter as polls about the validity of the 2020 election.]

But Rasmussen has doubled down on its findings. In a series of tweets on June 9, it declared, first: “If the numbers implied by our COVID polling are correct, the vaccines killed more people worldwide than Jews killed in the Holocaust.”

Then it tweeted: “China lied. Fauci lied. People died.” And followed that with: “The government take over of medicine was as deadly as always predicted.”

:doh:

Make no mistake: Rasmussen is responsible for these tweets, and deserves blame helping to foment a mass delusion about the vaccines that may have cost the lives of vaccine resisters. If it ever had a reputation for trustworthiness, it doesn’t have it any longer.

The next phase in the Liturgy Wars?

I saw some tweets from different Catholic personalities yesterday all suggesting that they had credible sources telling them the Vatican was preparing to ban the TLM wholesale once-and-for-all.

I don't really have a dog in the fight, I've never attended one regularly and don't have one within 100 miles of me. I think what's happened since TC sucks and is wrong and pray that justice will rectify the situation with the next pope, but who knows what God's plan is?

What I don't find believable about these claims is that seems to suggest the Vatican would squash the FSSP too after going out of their way to make sure they were set aside to continue offering the TLM.

So I'm not sure I would believe this, but even if it did happen I don't know think it'd last very long either. I mean, I may not see a resolution but I don't think it would last more than 1-2 generations. I mean the TLM disappeared and re-emerged with the indult in the 80s all within one generation so I guess we never know.

Hebrews It! (Legal Study, Chapter 3) Pt. 13b

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Continued from Hebrews It! (Legal Study, Chapter 3) Pt. 13a

We are going to hit this chapter with multiple OP's until it's meaning is so painfully clear that it is seared into our Souls! OP Pt. 13a complete. Chapter 3 is going to get some serious exegetical Love!

Types of Exegesis and study that will be applied to Chapter 3

1- Historical Scripture References from OT passages that are referenced
2- Cross Reference Exegesis
3- Repetitive Verse Inference Grouping
4- Contrast Diagramming

We diagrammed Hebrews Chapter 3 only to find that it reads in a very direct verse to verse way

3:1 Therefore, holy brothers and companions in a heavenly calling, consider Jesus, the apostle and high priest of our confession; 2 He was faithful to the One who appointed Him, just as Moses was in all God’s household.

3:1,2 Draws a parallel to an OT verse.​
Numbers 12:7 Not so with My servant Moses; he is faithful in all My household.​
Where as Numbers 12:7 reads as it does, Hebrews 3:1,2 reads with the SEVERE warnings to not TURN AWAY from Jesus as foundationally laid by Chapters 1 and 2. Whether a person likes it or not this entire chapter is taking the Stone Covenant of Moses and contrasting it against Following Jesus! All of Chapter 1 lays the foundation to follow Jesus. All of Chapter 2 evokes warnings against turning back to the Stone Law that was a mere shadow used to defeat the work of Satan and Prophesy the Coming of Jesus.​
3:1 and 2 imply "Not so with My servant Jesus, He is faithful in all My household"​
Whatever story that Number's 12 tells, is now being transferred in meaning directly to Jesus.​
Numbers 12:1 Miriam and Aaron criticized Moses because of the Cushite woman he married (for he had married a Cushite woman). 2 They said, “Does the Lord speak only through Moses? Does He not also speak through us?” And the Lord heard it. 3 Moses was a very humble man, more so than any man on the face of the earth.
Miriam and Aaron judge Moses' Marriage and question Moses' leadership. This verse exalts Moses' as the most Humble man on the face of the earth. Jesus took that CROWN. (Matthew 27:27,28,29)​
4 Suddenly the Lord said to Moses, Aaron, and Miriam, “You three come out to the tent of meeting.” So the three of them went out. 5 Then the Lord descended in a pillar of cloud, stood at the entrance to the tent, and summoned Aaron and Miriam. When the two of them came forward, 6 He said:
The Shakina Glory (Pre-Incarnate Jesus) summoned Moses and his accusers to "His Dwelling Place" (Tabernacle). God "stood" at the entrance of "His Dwelling Place".​
“Listen to what I say: If there is a prophet among you from the Lord, I make Myself known to him in a vision;
I speak with him in a dream.
God only shows His Humanoid form to everyone in visions.​
7 Not so with My servant Moses; he is faithful in all My household. 8 I speak with him directly, openly, and not in riddles; he sees the form of the Lord.
With only Humble Moses, God speaks face to face with him, plainly! This is Pre-incarnate Jesus expressing that He only reveals plain words, void of parables to the HUMBLE.​
So why were you not afraid to speak against My servant Moses?” 9 The Lord’s anger burned against them, and He left.
God was Angry at the challenge of Moses' leadership!​
10 As the cloud moved away from the tent, Miriam’s skin suddenly became diseased, as white as snow. When Aaron turned toward her, he saw that she was diseased 11 and said to Moses, “My lord, please don’t hold against us this sin we have so foolishly committed. 12 Please don’t let her be like a dead baby whose flesh is half eaten away when he comes out of his mother’s womb.”
God struck Miriam with leprosy for rebelling against Moses in speech.​
13 Then Moses cried out to the Lord, “God, please heal her!”
Moses begs the Great Physician to heal Miriam. (Moses CANNOT Heal or Save)​
14 The Lord answered Moses, “If her father had merely spit in her face, wouldn’t she remain in disgrace for seven days? Let her be confined outside the camp for seven days; after that she may be brought back in.”
Under the LAW, God is cursing Miriam and holding her to being "unclean" with Leprosy for 7 days.​
15 So Miriam was confined outside the camp for seven days, and the people did not move on until Miriam was brought back in. 16 After that, the people set out from Hazeroth and camped in the Wilderness of Paran.
Miriam had to wait "Outside the Camp" for 7 days, until Pre-Incarnate Jesus HEALED her!​
Now, back to our opening statement: Whatever story that Number's 12 tells, is now being transferred in meaning directly to Jesus.
Verses 3:1-2 are literally warning us against trading our faith and dependence on Jesus for ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING else and especially in light of this specific contrast, Moses and the Stone Covenant.​
Hebrews 3:3 For Jesus is considered worthy of more glory than Moses, just as the builder has more honor than the house. 4 Now every house is built by someone, but the One who built everything is God.
Immediately following the imperative contrast of being CURSED for turning away from Jesus and to Moses, AGAIN, Jesus (The most Humble of all that are Humble) is Exalted FAR above Moses and then attributed as the BUILDER of EVERYTHING!​
Hebrews 1:2 but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed the Heir of all things, through Whom also He created the world.
Hebrews 3:5 Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s household, as a testimony to what would be said in the future. 6 But Christ was faithful as a Son over His household. And we are that household if we hold on to the courage and the confidence of our hope.
Moses only foreshadowed what was to come! Jesus is WHO Moses was the Shadow of! It's this simple! Cast Moses aside, now! Hold on to Jesus Christ as our Confidence and HOPE!​
Hebrews 3:7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: Today, if you hear His voice,
This is not a joke! This verse is THE HIGHEST LEVEL PAY attention kind of verse!​
Isaiah 63:8 He said, “Surely they are my people, children who will be true to me”; and so He became their Savior.
9 In all their distress He too was distressed, and the Messenger of His Presence saved them.
In His love and mercy He redeemed them; He lifted them up and carried them all the days of old.
10 Yet they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit.
So He turned and became their enemy and He himself fought against them.
8 do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, on the day of testing in the wilderness,
Proverbs 28:14 Blessed is the one who fears the Lord always, but whoever hardens his heart will fall into calamity.
Matthew 13:15 For this people's heart has grown dull, and with their ears they can barely hear, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and turn, (Repent from Moses to Jesus) and I would heal them.’
Romans 2:5,6 But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed. He will render to each one according to his works:
Impenitent Heart! This is a person that refuses to acknowledge that they SIN according to the Stone Law! This is the person that thinks they can OBEY better than others and actually have a shot at salvation by being OBEDIENT! This person is a Hypocrite! They MUST relinquish their trust in themselves! We are either SAVED by JESUS CHRIST's Perfect work, or condemned by the Mountain of failures that we amass day to day, minute by minute! If a person actually believes themselves to be without sin for 2 seconds, they are Deceiving themselves and the Holy Spirit cannot be within them! (1 John 1:8) It's either Jesus or Self! There is no middle ground! All we can do is REPENT (Change our mind from self to Jesus). There is no MOSTLY JESUS (Partial Law of Stone Obedience) option! It's ALL Jesus or ALL 613 Mitzvah's! NO INBETWEEN!​
Acts 19:9 But when some became stubborn and continued in unbelief, speaking evil of the Way before the congregation, he withdrew from them and took the disciples with him, reasoning daily in the hall of Tyrannus.
The NEW Covenant is THE WAY (Jesus)! This forgiveness of a LIFE DEBT of Sin according to the Stone Law is a call to Love and Forgive as we have been Loved and Forgiven! Unbelief in Jesus Total work is the SIN of the NEW Covenant! Go and Sin (UNBELIEVE) NO MORE! God didn't die for humanity to GIVE THEM THE POWER To OBEY the Stone Covenant! Death (Satan) is the Accuser that KILLS, STEALS and DESTROYS through the use of the Stone Covenant! There are so many Religions in this world that all have Obedience patterns required to get to God! There is only ONE Belief System where God literally DIED to BE with US!​
9 where your fathers tested Me, tried Me, and saw My works 10 for 40 years.
Therefore I was provoked with that generation and said, “They always go astray in their hearts, and they have not known My ways.”

Luke 7:22 And he answered them, “Go and tell John what you have seen and heard: the blind receive their sight, the lame walk, lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, the poor have good news preached to them.
This is the Gospel in 5 verses!
Luke 18:9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable:
10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.​
11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.
Get the Stone out of our hearts, Please Lord! Give us Hearts of Flesh, Please Lord! Please, Dearest Jesus, Have Mercy on us Sinners! We need you every second of every Day! WE Turn to YOU and YOU Alone! Only You are GOOD! Only YOU are Worthy! Only You are Perfect, Loving and Merciful! Please Purify our Hearts for You, Lord! Let us strive to be HUMBLE, Contrite, Penitent! Dearest Jesus, Please allow us to see our need for you daily and hold no stone charge unto ourselves or any person of this earth, Made in your very Image! Allow us to have opened eyes to see that this very Universe is our Tabernacle made by YOUR HANDS!
11 So I swore in My anger, “They will not enter My rest.”
Isaiah 48:22 “The Lord God said, peace is not to wicked men.”
There is NO REST FOR THE WICKED and Brother's and Sister's, if not for the perpetual Grace of Jesus Christ, we ARE WICKED! It is HIS Righteousness, Alone, that can save us! We SIN! We are SINNERS! We don't cease to Sin until we DIE! We must KNEEL on the BLADE of Repentance every Second of Every Day! We must ALWAYS know we NEED HIM! The Stone Law is only to reveal our NEED FOR HIM! Do you not know that there is an entire world out there that is HUNGRY to hear these very words! Spiritual Starvation is far worse than physical starvation! IN and out of Brick and Mortar buildings, people are STARVING to hear the ONE TRUE GOSPEL! We provide the Repentance of our inability to please Him and HE DOES ALL THE REST! He was born in a smelly Barn! He will Tabernacle inside of ANYONE who REPENTS! The sooner we can ALL agree on the ONE TRUE GOSPEL, the sooner we can physically minister to the needs of this world held by the captivity of Pride, Greed, Malice, Poverty, Pain, Sorrow, Regret etc etc!

OP 13b complete. OP 13c to come, soon!

Teachableness

I want to ask about this, as I find it a bit of a barrier in my settling in a church (i am also not keen on "house groups" which some churches operate - basically a midweek fellowship / teaching session in some members house) In my experience with some churches these are often pushed and I get asked "Are you in a house group"?, and I feel like if I refuse to get involved, people regard me as not serious in my christian walk (well its possible I am not a christian anymore, but when I was going to these churches I was seeking get back. Not saying there is anything wrong with churches having these groups for those who want to go to them, but I don't like being constantly asked "Have you joined a house group?" when have started going to some churches. I am sure for many people they are good, but I seem to wreck the togetherness or sense of community in the group or something when I join (I was a told that once by one group member "I'd upset the group's sense of community", after i had ceased to attend the group) - not sure if I'd upset it by ceasing to attend, or when i was attending. But to me if you run one of these groups you got to be prepared for people joining and leaving. The leader was nice and tried to make me feel part of the group, but the others already knew each other and didn't often didn't speak to me when I attended social events the group was having. One in the group tended to keep posing the question What would Jesus do? WWJD? Well if he'd just have asked himself that in the quiet of his heart, and then gone and done it, he could have modeled what it meant to be a disciple of Christ? I wasn't at the stage of walking over to groups of people on the street and witnessing, I was to an extent postmodern and post-christian in my mindset, though going to church to see if might help me return to the Faith I'd grown up in.

Its quite likely that I am somewhat unteachable even unbelieving at the moment. Part of this is probably I have read widely on my own in various subjects christian and otherwise, so I have acquired a bit of knowledge. I believe some christians as well as being informed doctrinally also hold political and economic views of various stripes. When I was much younger and at school, I leaned somewhat left politically I think, and I couldn't abide direction from some older christians I who i believed supported certain political and economic policies at the time, that I wasn't sure i agreed with. I couldn't put myself in submission to them at the time. It might of course have been as much a teenage rebellion thing, but I also had been influenced by Kierrkegarrd's writting to some extent.

I am much older now. What exactly does teachableness entail / require in church context. How much is one allowed to debate, question, disagree, without becoming unteachable? And how teachable should teachers still be themselves?

Spiritually speaking I am not sure where i am at currently. I don't attend any church regularly.

Illegal Captured After Rape of 13yo


Another asylum seeker caught doing a horrific crime in the US. You might wonder how he got past Biden's vetting system and why would someone from Ecuador even need asylum. The answers are pretty simple. He came in with his kid...and he asked for asylum. That's it. Off to NYC to rape a 13yo girl in broad daylight.

Thoughts?

'You can go straight to Hell': Republicans slam Senate bill's push to make women register for military draft

A push to require women to register for the military draft is generating fierce backlash among members of the U.S. Congress, even as a bipartisan group of senators voted to advance massive legislation containing the controversial provision.

In a statement published Friday, the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee announced that it had voted 22-3 to advance the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2025 to the Senate floor. While Committee Chair Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., indicated that he voted against it when summarizing the contents of the bill, the identities of the other two senators who opposed the legislation remain unknown.

Reed acknowledged that the legislation makes "important progress in a number of areas, including a well-deserved pay raise for military servicemembers, powerful new security initiatives in the Indo-Pacific, and significant support for technologies like counter-drone defenses and AI" while expressing concern that "it includes a funding increase that cannot be appropriated without breaking lawful spending caps and causing unintended harm to our military."

Continued below.

Cultural Meltdown: The Secular Roots of Our Moral Crisis

About the Book…​


In this incisive work, Bill Donohue pulls no punches as he contends that our moral crisis is a reflection of two competing visions of morality — one religious and the other secular. The former is grounded in our Judeo-Christian tradition, the latter in radical notions of liberty and equality that are tearing us asunder.

Donohue explains how the religious vision acknowledges belief in God, truth, human nature, natural law, moral absolutes, and Original Sin. It understands the limits of the human condition and thus rejects the notion that human perfectibility can be realized on earth. The secular vision believes none of this, and its adherents are bent on destroying the last vestiges of our religious heritage.

Weaving together examples from the earliest centuries to the Enlightenment to modern times, Donohue seamlessly lays out how to restore our moral code so that the mainstreaming of madness is terminated and rolled back.

What They’re Saying….​


“In this much-needed book, Bill Donohue calls on Catholics, Evangelicals, Orthodox Jews, Mormons, and Muslims to stand up for their beliefs—for their own sakes and for the good of the country.”
—Mary Ann Glendon
“As a sociologist, Bill Donohue understands what happens to a society when the ‘sacred canopy’ of religion is ripped away. He offers a way to extricate ourselves and our communities from the nihilism of a society without God.”
—Anne Hendershott, Ph.D.
“Donohue’s response to our advanced cultural meltdown is not pessimism but pugnacity, in a full-throated defense of the Catholic vision of moral law as the basis of a good moral order.”
—Fr. Paul Sullins, Ph.D.
“Like the prophets, Donohue skewers bad guys—doers of evil and sowers of confusion—with consistent vigor and style.”
—Russell Shaw
“Bill Donohue tells us who the thinkers and activists are who are trying to destroy our Judeo-Christian civilization.”
— Fr. Gerald E. Murray

Boeing CEO testifying to the US Senate



I thought that this would have been made into a thread by now.

What do y'all think about all of this stuff coming out today in testimony to the US Senate? How much trust do y'all have in Boeing jets? What should be and what will be the consequences for their actions should the various leaders in Boeing be expected to face?

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