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I pick up so many small "bits" of what it really is .
and i suspect they are not all bad bits .
no let me reword that .. they certainly are not all bad bits
some of you know me by now ,, i can and do reason . I do recognize when a point becomes an"intellectual impass "and understand the need to leave that point for the sake of peace .
so i see mostly (because they are shouted about the loudest) the extremism.
and i know for sure extremists are for the most part a minority of ANY denomination .
they are the ones doing the outrageous claiming of beach houses and porcshes lol.
now it actually got me thinking - perhaps they are indeed a testament of proclaiming something by faith ... !and receiving it .
the Lord did say what ever you ask in my name , believing ,it will be done for you ..
however .. he also said , seek first the kingdom of GOD
and he also said .. if you seek treasure on earth ..then, basically, .. you dont get them in heaven .
so i consider this , just because some extremists take the principle and use it for WORLDLY GAIN (as it is written some do) .that does not invalidate a principle at work .. .all it does it causes them to bring shame on the Gospel ,disrepute to the Church and put themselves in danger of severe judgment .
but the priciples remain true .
let me use the Pentecostal denomination with which i am fully familiar having grown up in it before any one used the term "charismatic" (why they changed the term i still don't know ) the same principle of "misuse of abilities" applies .
ie -you have some preacher who is gifted in laying hands on and signs and wonders follow and he becomes popular builds a huge church gets himself a huge stipend ,flash house cool car ..or in short uses it for WORLDY GAIN ..
Again- that does not invalidate the gifting .. it just makes him guilty of using that gifting for a purpose Other then what it was given .
So if word of faith is all about :claiming things in Faith .. then let the thing we claim be Wholly for the good of the kingdom of God and never for our own Gain ..ie ,, to save our lost family members etc .
Now im not under the umbrella of WOF ..but i think it would be wrong to throw out the basic foundational principles merely because some have taken those principles and wrongfully used them .
if "those " seek the things of this world ..then they have their reward (and James adds a woe into that earthly reward .that principle remains true also )
Any way my point is .. IF WOF is what i have seen it to be ,if im understanding it right .is it fair to say what I have said ?
and i suspect they are not all bad bits .
no let me reword that .. they certainly are not all bad bits
some of you know me by now ,, i can and do reason . I do recognize when a point becomes an"intellectual impass "and understand the need to leave that point for the sake of peace .
so i see mostly (because they are shouted about the loudest) the extremism.
and i know for sure extremists are for the most part a minority of ANY denomination .
they are the ones doing the outrageous claiming of beach houses and porcshes lol.
now it actually got me thinking - perhaps they are indeed a testament of proclaiming something by faith ... !and receiving it .
the Lord did say what ever you ask in my name , believing ,it will be done for you ..
however .. he also said , seek first the kingdom of GOD
and he also said .. if you seek treasure on earth ..then, basically, .. you dont get them in heaven .
so i consider this , just because some extremists take the principle and use it for WORLDLY GAIN (as it is written some do) .that does not invalidate a principle at work .. .all it does it causes them to bring shame on the Gospel ,disrepute to the Church and put themselves in danger of severe judgment .
but the priciples remain true .
let me use the Pentecostal denomination with which i am fully familiar having grown up in it before any one used the term "charismatic" (why they changed the term i still don't know ) the same principle of "misuse of abilities" applies .
ie -you have some preacher who is gifted in laying hands on and signs and wonders follow and he becomes popular builds a huge church gets himself a huge stipend ,flash house cool car ..or in short uses it for WORLDY GAIN ..
Again- that does not invalidate the gifting .. it just makes him guilty of using that gifting for a purpose Other then what it was given .
So if word of faith is all about :claiming things in Faith .. then let the thing we claim be Wholly for the good of the kingdom of God and never for our own Gain ..ie ,, to save our lost family members etc .
Now im not under the umbrella of WOF ..but i think it would be wrong to throw out the basic foundational principles merely because some have taken those principles and wrongfully used them .
if "those " seek the things of this world ..then they have their reward (and James adds a woe into that earthly reward .that principle remains true also )
Any way my point is .. IF WOF is what i have seen it to be ,if im understanding it right .is it fair to say what I have said ?
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