The Lake of Fire (Tophet) is the Moment of Conception

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The Lake of Fire has several names in the Bible. One of them is 'Gehenna'. This word comes from the Old Testament, and a place called the 'Valley of the Son/Children of Hinnom'. Another name for the Lake of Fire is 'Tophet'...

2 Kings 23:10
"And he defiled Topheth, which is in the valley of the children of Hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter to pass through the fire to Molech."

What does Tophet mean and where did it come from? A clue is found in the following verse...

Isaiah 30:33 (KJV)
“For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.”

Here is another translation…

Isaiah 30:33 (JPS Tanakh 1917)
“For a hearth is ordered of old; Yea, for the king it is prepared, Deep and large; The pile thereof is fire and much wood; The breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.”

Notice how the word 'Tophet' is replaced with 'Hearth'? That is because the word ‘Tophet’ is synonymous with the word ‘Hearth’. This connection is very important to remember.

Let us examine another verse from the Old Testament regarding the Tabernacle in the Wilderness...

Leviticus 6:13
“The fire shall ever be burning upon the altar; it shall never go out.”

The ‘Everlasting Fire’ of God was to always be burning in the Brazen Altar. Think of the phrase 'Everlasting Fire' and how it is used in other verses...

Matthew 25:41
"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels"

If we study the Everlasting Fire in Hebrew, we find this interesting bit of information...

'Esh' means Fire…
Strong's Hebrew: 784. אֵשׁ (esh) -- a fire

'Jah' means Jehovah…
Strong's Hebrew: 3050. יָהּ (Yah) -- the name of the God of Israel

Together they form ‘Esh-Jah’, the Fire of the LORD. Why is this important? According to Biblical Scholars, the word Tophet is another name for a Goddess called ‘Vesta’…

“…it is well known that the Romans had their goddess Vesta, whom Velleius Paterculus calls the keeper of the perpetual fires; and there were certain virgins, called the "vestal" virgins, whose business it was to take care that the fire never went out; and is by Virgil called the eternal fire..."

In the above quote, we see that Vesta, the Goddess of the Hearth, is associated with Eternal Fire. If we keep reading, we discover that Vesta is synonymous with Esh-Jah, the Fire of the LORD that was to be ever burning...

“…and Vesta itself is thought by some learned men to be the same with (hy-va) "Esh-jah", the fire of Jehovah…”

https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/leviticus-6-13.html

Vesta is the Roman equivalent to the Greek Hestia. We can see how the pronunciation of 'esh-jah' sounds similar to 'Hestia'. That is because the word 'Hestia' comes from 'Esh-Jah' and later evolved to 'Vesta'.

Interestingly, Hestia is the Sister of Hades. The word ‘Hades’ is used in the Bible several times...

Revelation 20:14 (New International Version)
"Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death."

Thus, it is no surprise that Hestia/Vesta would be in the Bible as well. And since Vesta/Hestia is the Goddess of the Hearth, we find that she is a perfect match for Tophet...

Isaiah 30:33 (JPS Tanakh 1917)
“For a hearth is ordered of old; Yea, for the king it is prepared, Deep and large; The pile thereof is fire and much wood; The breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.”

We can now study who Vesta was to gain insight as to what the Lake of Fire is really all about. An old Hebrew to English Lexicon reveals the answer...

HEBREW AND ENGLISH LEXICON, JOHN PARKHURST, 1823, PAGE 569...

An Hebrew and English lexicon, without points ... To this work are prefixed an Hebrew and a Chaldie grammar, without points : Parkhurst, John, 1728-1797 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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Here is a screenshot of the page...

Several meanings are given as to what Tophet means, however when all of the evidence is analyzed, the meaning that fits perfectly is of course the Goddess Vesta, the 'Perpetual Fire'.

Now for the punchline. Are you ready for the Big Reveal as to what the Lake of Fire is?

From Wikipedia:

"The myths depicting Vesta and her priestesses were few; the most notable of them were tales of miraculous impregnation of a virgin priestess by a phallus appearing in the flames of the sacred hearth — the manifestation of the goddess combined with a male supernatural being."

Vesta (mythology) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It turns out that Vesta is almost never depicted in art. You see why. Vesta is the Moment of Conception.

This Revelation clearly demonstrates that there is more happening here than the Church is willing to admit.

 

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An important question arises...

Are we absolutely, one hundred percent sure that the Unsaved 'burn for infinity' for a finite crime? Or are they really annihilated instead?

99.999 percent of so called "Christians" could not care less!

In fact, many enjoy the thought of God being more wicked and sadistic than Satan himself, torturing anyone and everyone equally for eternity, no matter what sin they are guilty of. How unbiblical. The rest of the Secular world sees through this detestable false dogma and are disgusted. They understand what the indoctrinated do not. Christianity is dying because of ignorance.

The ultra rare few of us who care deeply about what happens to the Unsaved, search the Scriptures day and night to see if there is something that may have been missed regarding the ultimate fate of perhaps billions (or more) of people that did not make it to Heaven.

We are the Bereans who do our very best to Love and cherish those that took a different path and ended up in Hell...

Mark 12:31
"And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these."

What we have discovered is nothing short of Revolutionary. God *IS* Love! There really is *GOOD NEWS*!

There is so much the Church has hidden. It is time to begin undoing the tremendous damage that has been done, one verse at a time.

 

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As we dive deeper into this study, we discover that the Lake of Fire, otherwise known as Gehenna, can be further quantified and more accurately defined by studying what God has to say about those who were unfortunate enough to be cast into it...

Leviticus 18:21
"And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD."

Did you catch that? Those that are cast in Gehenna 'pass through' the Fire! They do not 'burn for infinity'. Moreover, they pass through to an entity called Molech. Now we are getting somewhere.

The Lake of Fire is a portal that the Unsaved pass through to go to the next phase of their journey.

Do not ignore that special word in the above verse... Seed. Do you see it yet? Seed in the Bible is often described as something that goes into the Womb to conceive a Child. We need to keep adding the evidence.

Let us add another Witness...

2 Kings 23:10
"And he defiled Topheth, which is in the valley of the children of Hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter to pass through the fire to Molech."

Since we now know what Tophet is, we can use that information to decode who Molech is. Obviously, Molech has something to do with Conception. 'Seed' goes into Molech.

Let us keep going...

Ezekiel 20:26
"And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the LORD."

We can now add 'Womb' to the list of evidence as to what Gehenna and Molech are all about.

One more...

Ezekiel 23:37
"That they have committed adultery, and blood is in their hands, and with their idols have they committed adultery, and have also caused their sons, whom they bare unto me, to pass for them through the fire, to devour them."

We will now add everything together to discover what the Lake of Fire has in common with Molech:

• Tophet
• Vesta/Hestia
• Moment of Conception
• Seed
• Womb
• Adultery
• Blood

The ultimate answer to what the Lake of Fire is really all about is coming into focus. We are just getting started.

 

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What else can we ascertain about Molech?

Scholars who do not believe that Moloch represents a deity instead compare the name to inscriptions in the closely related Punic language where the word mlk (molk or mulk) refers to a type of sacrifice, a connection first proposed by Otto Eissfeldt (1935).

Scholars such as W. von Soden argue that the term is a nominalized causative form of the verb ylk/wlk, meaning "to offer", "present", and thus means "the act of presenting" or "thing presented".

Moloch - Wikipedia

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Interesting. Perhaps the antithesis would be...

Romans 12:1
"I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service."

And...

Genesis 22:2
"And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of."

Another quote from Wikipedia...

G. C. Heider and John Day connect Moloch with a deity Mlk attested at Ugarit and Malik attested in Mesopotamia and proposes that he was a god of the underworld, as in Mesopotamia Malik is twice equated with the underworld god Nergal. Day also notes that Isaiah seems to associate Moloch with Sheol.

Here is the Isaiah verse...

Isaiah 57:9
"And thou wentest to the king with ointment, and didst increase thy perfumes, and didst send thy messengers far off, and didst debase thyself even unto hell."

or...

Isaiah 57:9 (New International Version)
"You went to Molek with olive oil and increased your perfumes. You sent your ambassadors far away; you descended to the very realm of the dead!"

Clearly the Lake of Fire, Hell, Underworld, etc. are all linked to Moloch. Why is this not taught?

Now, for those who are able really discern the deeper Mysteries of the Bible, the previous verse reveals the Secret...

Isaiah 57:8 (KJV)
"Behind the doors also and the posts hast thou set up thy remembrance: for thou hast discovered thyself to another than me, and art gone up; thou hast enlarged thy bed, and made thee a covenant with them; thou lovedst their bed where thou sawest it."

Do you see it?

Galatians 4:24
"Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar."

The Egyptian Woman?

 

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The Lake of Fire leads to Moloch. We must find out what happens to our friends, family, loved ones, strangers, heck even our enemies who are thrown in. Does anyone care? I do. I will keep fighting for Truth.

Acts 7:40-44
"Saying unto Aaron, Make us gods to go before us: for as for this Moses, which brought us out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him. And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands. Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon. Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as he had appointed, speaking unto Moses, that he should make it according to the fashion that he had seen."

Amazing. God is associating Moloch with the Golden Calf that Aaron made. Moreover, God is showing two types of Tabernacles in juxtaposition:

• Tabernacle of Witness
• Tabernacle of Moloch

There is something interesting that is said...

"and the star of your god Remphan"

Some commentary:

And the star of your god Remphan.—Remphan appears to have been understood by the LXX. translators as an equivalent for the Hebrew “Chiun,” which is supposed by many scholars to be identified with the planet Saturn, of which “Ræphan” (the LXX. form of the name) was the Coptic or Egyptian name.

Acts 7:43 Commentaries: 'YOU ALSO TOOK ALONG THE TABERNACLE OF MOLOCH AND THE STAR OF THE GOD ROMPHA, THE IMAGES WHICH YOU MADE TO WORSHIP. I ALSO WILL REMOVE YOU BEYOND BABYLON.'

 

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God is associating Moloch with the Golden Calf that Aaron made.

The Golden Calf, along with the festivities, are a perfect match for Hathor the Egyptian Woman...

Exodus 32:6
"And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play."

From Wikipedia...

Egyptian religion celebrated the sensory pleasures of life, believed to be among the gods' gifts to humanity. Egyptians ate, drank, danced, and played music at their religious festivals. They perfumed the air with flowers and incense. Many of Hathor's epithets link her to celebration; she is called the mistress of music, dance, garlands, myrrh, and drunkenness.

Hathor - Wikipedia

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Some commentary...

Why did the Israelites choose a calf? One could point to the gods of other nations for some possible inspiration for this.

• The Egyptian god, Hathor, a bull goddess of joy, celebration, and love, could’ve had some sway over the shape this idol took.
• Another Egyptian deity, Apis (a calf) could’ve served as an inspiration.
• One could also point to Canaanite literature’s El (a bull), the chief god or Baal, an ox.
• But scholars sometimes disagree with this. In the chapter above, it seems Aaron is throwing the festival in honor of Yahweh (Exodus 32:5), at least initially.

What Was the Golden Calf and What is this Bible Story so Important?

The Israelites convinced Aaron to crate a golden calf to worship while Moses was on Mt. Sinai. Let's see why this Bible story about an idol is so important.

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Hathor is also representative of a Divine Mother...

Hathor was considered the mother of various child deities. As suggested by her name, she was often thought of as both Horus's mother and consort. As both the king's wife and his heir's mother, Hathor was the divine counterpart of human queens.

She was both Wife and Mother of Horus. Keep that in mind as we continue.

Researchers have pointed out that the image of Hathor depicts a Uterus...

Hathor indeed matches the evidence thus far. We will add Divine Mother to the list of Moloch references:

• Tophet
• Vesta/Hestia
• Moment of Conception
• Seed
• Womb
• Adultery
• Blood
• Divine Mother

 

[AlexB23]

The Lake of Fire has several names in the Bible. One of them is 'Gehenna'. This word comes from the Old Testament, and a place called the 'Valley of the Son/Children of Hinnom'. Another name for the Lake of Fire is 'Tophet'...

2 Kings 23:10
"And he defiled Topheth, which is in the valley of the children of Hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter to pass through the fire to Molech."

What does Tophet mean and where did it come from? A clue is found in the following verse...

Isaiah 30:33 (KJV)
“For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.”

Here is another translation…

Isaiah 30:33 (JPS Tanakh 1917)
“For a hearth is ordered of old; Yea, for the king it is prepared, Deep and large; The pile thereof is fire and much wood; The breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.”

Notice how the word 'Tophet' is replaced with 'Hearth'? That is because the word ‘Tophet’ is synonymous with the word ‘Hearth’. This connection is very important to remember.

Let us examine another verse from the Old Testament regarding the Tabernacle in the Wilderness...

Leviticus 6:13
“The fire shall ever be burning upon the altar; it shall never go out.”

The ‘Everlasting Fire’ of God was to always be burning in the Brazen Altar. Think of the phrase 'Everlasting Fire' and how it is used in other verses...

Matthew 25:41
"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels"

If we study the Everlasting Fire in Hebrew, we find this interesting bit of information...

'Esh' means Fire…
Strong's Hebrew: 784. אֵשׁ (esh) -- a fire

'Jah' means Jehovah…
Strong's Hebrew: 3050. יָהּ (Yah) -- the name of the God of Israel

Together they form ‘Esh-Jah’, the Fire of the LORD. Why is this important? According to Biblical Scholars, the word Tophet is another name for a Goddess called ‘Vesta’…

“…it is well known that the Romans had their goddess Vesta, whom Velleius Paterculus calls the keeper of the perpetual fires; and there were certain virgins, called the "vestal" virgins, whose business it was to take care that the fire never went out; and is by Virgil called the eternal fire..."

In the above quote, we see that Vesta, the Goddess of the Hearth, is associated with Eternal Fire. If we keep reading, we discover that Vesta is synonymous with Esh-Jah, the Fire of the LORD that was to be ever burning...

“…and Vesta itself is thought by some learned men to be the same with (hy-va) "Esh-jah", the fire of Jehovah…”

https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/leviticus-6-13.html

Vesta is the Roman equivalent to the Greek Hestia. We can see how the pronunciation of 'esh-jah' sounds similar to 'Hestia'. That is because the word 'Hestia' comes from 'Esh-Jah' and later evolved to 'Vesta'.

Interestingly, Hestia is the Sister of Hades. The word ‘Hades’ is used in the Bible several times...

Revelation 20:14 (New International Version)
"Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death."

Thus, it is no surprise that Hestia/Vesta would be in the Bible as well. And since Vesta/Hestia is the Goddess of the Hearth, we find that she is a perfect match for Tophet...

Isaiah 30:33 (JPS Tanakh 1917)
“For a hearth is ordered of old; Yea, for the king it is prepared, Deep and large; The pile thereof is fire and much wood; The breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.”

We can now study who Vesta was to gain insight as to what the Lake of Fire is really all about. An old Hebrew to English Lexicon reveals the answer...

HEBREW AND ENGLISH LEXICON, JOHN PARKHURST, 1823, PAGE 569...

An Hebrew and English lexicon, without points ... To this work are prefixed an Hebrew and a Chaldie grammar, without points : Parkhurst, John, 1728-1797 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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archive.org

Here is a screenshot of the page...

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Several meanings are given as to what Tophet means, however when all of the evidence is analyzed, the meaning that fits perfectly is of course the Goddess Vesta, the 'Perpetual Fire'.

Now for the punchline. Are you ready for the Big Reveal as to what the Lake of Fire is?

From Wikipedia:

"The myths depicting Vesta and her priestesses were few; the most notable of them were tales of miraculous impregnation of a virgin priestess by a phallus appearing in the flames of the sacred hearth — the manifestation of the goddess combined with a male supernatural being."

Vesta (mythology) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It turns out that Vesta is almost never depicted in art. You see why. Vesta is the Moment of Conception.

This Revelation clearly demonstrates that there is more happening here than the Church is willing to admit.

This Vesta conception stuff is a little too advanced, but Vesta is also the name of this cool rock in space, with a diameter of 326 miles (525 km). If it were to collide with Earth, there would be a lake of fire in the crater, that is for sure. But luckily, by God's grace, the asteroid Vesta is tens to hundreds of millions of miles (km) away. Alright, I am stepping away from this thread, cos controversial theology is not my thing.

4 Vesta

 

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Vesta is also the name of this cool rock in space...

Nice. I have been blessed by your link. I discovered something I had not known before...

Because Olbers already had credit for discovering a planet (Pallas; at the time, the asteroids were considered to be planets), he gave the honor of naming his new discovery to German mathematician Carl Friedrich Gauss, whose orbital calculations had enabled astronomers to confirm the existence of Ceres, the first asteroid, and who had computed the orbit of the new planet in the remarkably short time of 10 hours. Gauss decided on the Roman virgin goddess of home and hearth, Vesta.

Gauss named it Vesta because Vesta is the sister of Ceres...

Dictionary of Minor Planet Names : Lutz D. Schmadel : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The official reference for the field of the IAU. Names of planets connected to Greek Mythology

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It turns out that the Greek equivalent to Ceres is Demeter...

In ancient Greek religion and mythology, Demeter is the Olympian goddess of the harvest and agriculture, presiding over crops, grains, food, and the fertility of the earth.

Why is this important? Because the Pale Horse gets its color and name (chlóros) from Demeter...

"young foliage (Verdant, epithet of the pagan goddess Demeter), Chloe, a Chr. woman"

Strong's Greek: 5514. Χλόη (Chloé a prim. word) -- Chloe.

The Pale Horse is associated with the Harvest! Look what else I found...

Demeter searched everywhere to find her missing daughter to no avail until she was informed that Hades had taken her to the Underworld. In response, Demeter neglected her duties as goddess of agriculture, plunging the earth into a deadly famine where nothing would grow, causing mortals to die.

Wait what!?!? The Black Horse is Famine. Wow.

 

[AlexB23]

Nice. I have been blessed by your link. I discovered something I had not known before...

Because Olbers already had credit for discovering a planet (Pallas; at the time, the asteroids were considered to be planets), he gave the honor of naming his new discovery to German mathematician Carl Friedrich Gauss, whose orbital calculations had enabled astronomers to confirm the existence of Ceres, the first asteroid, and who had computed the orbit of the new planet in the remarkably short time of 10 hours. Gauss decided on the Roman virgin goddess of home and hearth, Vesta.

Gauss named it Vesta because Vesta is the sister of Ceres...

View attachment 345746​

Dictionary of Minor Planet Names : Lutz D. Schmadel : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The official reference for the field of the IAU. Names of planets connected to Greek Mythology

archive.org

It turns out that the Greek equivalent to Ceres is Demeter...

In ancient Greek religion and mythology, Demeter is the Olympian goddess of the harvest and agriculture, presiding over crops, grains, food, and the fertility of the earth.

Why is this important? Because the Pale Horse gets its color and name (chlóros) from Demeter...

"young foliage (Verdant, epithet of the pagan goddess Demeter), Chloe, a Chr. woman"

Strong's Greek: 5514. Χλόη (Chloé a prim. word) -- Chloe.

The Pale Horse is associated with the Harvest! Look what else I found...

Demeter searched everywhere to find her missing daughter to no avail until she was informed that Hades had taken her to the Underworld. In response, Demeter neglected her duties as goddess of agriculture, plunging the earth into a deadly famine where nothing would grow, causing mortals to die.

Wait what!?!? The Black Horse is Famine. Wow.

Thank you for appreciating my post on the asteroid. But, I will stay away from the theology portion of your post. I prefer uplifting theology, and helping those in need, not discussing the apocalypse, black horses or wombs. God bless.

 

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And the star of your god Remphan.—Remphan appears to have been understood by the LXX. translators as an equivalent for the Hebrew “Chiun,” which is supposed by many scholars to be identified with the planet Saturn, of which “Ræphan” (the LXX. form of the name) was the Coptic or Egyptian name.

Remphan is associated with Saturn. What could the Star of Remphan be? If we continue with the Hathor evidence, we discover that Saturn was depicted by Horus...

Much clearer is the name of Saturn, which in the fullest form is “Horus bull of the sky”; in the Late Period normally shortened to “Horus the bull.” He is called the “eastern,” or in some cases “western” star.

The Planets in Ancient Egypt

"The Planets in Ancient Egypt" published on by Oxford University Press.

oxfordre.com

Hathor and Horus would have been well known to the Israelites leaving Egypt.

 

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Is there more evidence in the Word of God that helps us understand the fate of those thrown into the Lake of Fire? You bet...

Matthew 23:15 (Berean Literal Bible)
"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you traverse the sea and the dry land to make one convert, and whenever it may happen, you make him twofold more a son of Gehenna than yourselves."

Since we now know that Gehenna is the Moment of Conception, we can clearly see that the above verse is literal. Children are literally born out of Gehenna.

Here is the KJV translation...

Matthew 23:15
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves."

Again, the phrase 'Child of Hell' is literal, as in that is where we all came from.

 

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Ask anyone on the planet where the Hell of the Christian Bible is located. They will most likely point to the ground and say that Hell is "down there somewhere".

Some teach that Jesus visited Hell after he was crucified. A verse often quoted is this one...

Ephesians 4:9
"Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?"

An example of this teaching may be found in the Apostles' Creed...

...was crucified, died and was buried;
he descended into hell;
on the third day he rose again from the dead...

Apostles' Creed - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The 'Harrowing of Hell' goes into more detail...

In Christian theology, the Harrowing of Hell (Latin: Descensus Christi ad Inferos, "the descent of Christ into Hell" or Hades) is the period of time between the Crucifixion of Jesus and his resurrection. In triumphant descent, Christ brought salvation to the souls held captive there since the beginning of the world.

Harrowing of Hell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Is this accurate? Did Jesus really 'descend into Hell' after being crucified? You should know the answer by now...

Psalms 139:15
"My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth."

Do you see it?

Hell, the Lake of Fire, the Lowest parts of the Earth, etc. is simply euphemism and allegory for where babies come from. In other words, they are all speaking of the Womb of the Earthly Mother.

Jesus did not descend *first* from the Cross. Jesus descended *first* from Heaven...

John 3:13
"And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."

Now compare the above verse to this one...

Ephesians 4:9
"Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?"

They are synonymous. Both verses describe Jesus descending first into the Womb of Mary, the lower parts of the Earth.

Get it? Yes, we have all been lied to by the Church. You should be angry that they did this.

Here is an interesting commentary...

...some interpret this of Christ's descent into hell, which must be understood not locally, but of his enduring the wrath of God for sin, which was equivalent to the torments of hell, and of his being in the state of the dead; but it may rather design the whole of his humiliation, as his descent from heaven and incarnation in the virgin's womb, where his human nature was curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth; and his humbling himself and becoming obedient unto death, even the death of the cross, when he was made sin and a curse for his people, and bore all the punishment due to their transgressions; and his being in Hades, in the state of the dead, in the grave, in the heart of the earth, as Jonah in the whale's belly: reference seems to be had to Psalm 139:15 where "the lower parts of the earth", is interpreted by the Targum on the place of , "his mother's womb"; and so it is by Jarchi, Aben Ezra, Kimchi, and Ben Melec. The Alexandrian copy and the Ethiopic version leave out the word "first" in this clause.

Ephesians 4:9 Commentaries: (Now this expression, "He ascended," what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth?

 

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What about the dreaded 'Pit'? What is that?

Revelation 17:8
"The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."

Is it CERN? Is it an interdimensional portal that aliens will pop out of? Is it some scary unfathomable thing that is completely unknowable until some future time? We turn to the Word of God to help solve this Mystery...

Isaiah 51:1
"Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged."

Once again, Scripture is teaching us that the Pit is where babies, i.e., you, I and everyone else, were born out of. It is euphemism, the Meat of the Word.

So, who is the person that this particular 'Pit'... aka... womb belonged to? The next verse reveals the Mystery...

Isaiah 51:2
"Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him."

The Pit being referenced was the womb of Sarah. The Rock of course represents the Seed of Abraham...

And there you have it. The Pit represents the womb where Life is born out of. It can be human, beast or perhaps even a Genetically Modified Organism (GMO).

 

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And there you have it. The Pit represents the womb where Life is born out of. It can be human, beast or perhaps even a Genetically Modified Organism (GMO).

We can now use the above information to decipher this verse...

Revelation 17:8
"The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."

Immediately we can see that the Beast is some type of humanoid that will be birthed from the womb one day. Now look at the fine print...

• Was, and is not; and shall ascend.
• Was, and is not, and yet is.

How can this be? Have we not been told ad-nauseum that there is no such thing as reincarnation? Yet, there it is as plain as can be! The Beast was alive, the Beast died, the Beast shall ascend once again from the womb of creation. That is by definition, reincarnation.

How many times has this reincarnation process happened? If we count the number of 'heads' the Dragon and Beast have, we can see that the Beast has reincarnated at least seven times...

Revelation 13:1
"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."

Each 'head' represents a King or Antichrist that was either born in the past, or will be born in the future...

Revelation 17:8-9 (New International Version)
This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while.

Looking further into the above verses, we see that a Woman 'sits' on these Mountains as an act of procreation. The 'Mountains' represent the Male Generative Principle where the Woman 'plays the harlot' to conceive each Antichrist...

Jeremiah 2:20
"For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot."

Indeed, Scripture is teaching us that Mountains are euphemism for the Phallus. The phrase 'playing the harlot' is very much literal.

Again, Mystery Babylon 'sits' (procreates) on the 'head' (Phallus) of the Beast. This is the Meat of the Word that has been hidden from you.

 

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Now that we understand that the word 'Pit' in the Bible is euphemism for the womb of an Earthly Mother, we are able to decipher even more cryptic passages...

Isaiah 14:15
"Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."

Hell in this context is the womb of reincarnation. The 'sides' of the Pit are what we call Ovary. There is one on each 'side' of the 'Pit' or uterus.

Who is the one that will be reincarnated over and over? You know...

Isaiah 14:12
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

Satan was, is not, yet he shall ascend from the Pit again and again...

Revelation 17:8
"The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."

There are many teachings on what these various reincarnations were. Here is a list of who I believe the Seven Heads (Antichrists) were throughout the history of the Bible...

The first reincarnation of Satan was when he was transformed from the Serpent of the Garden into Cain. Thus, the Beast is symbolic of Cain...

John 8:44
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Lucifer was simply one incarnation of many. In his case it was the King of Babylon.

 

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One of the most misunderstood concepts in the Bible has to do with the idea of our modern understanding of the word 'infinity' being synonymous with phrases like 'for ever', 'for ever and ever', etc.

For example, this verse uses the phrase 'for ever and ever'...

Revelation 20:10
"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."

Does for ever and ever mean infinity? Are those that are thrown into the Lake of Fire tormented for an infinite amount of time?

From Wikipedia:

"The phrase possibly expresses the eternal duration of God's attributes, but it could also be an idiomatic way to represent a very long passage of time."

We now have proof that these phrases do not automatically mean infinite. Moreover, the word 'aeon' was originally used to indicate the lifespan of a single person...

Throughout the whole of ancient and late antique Greek literature, an "aeon" was most properly an "age," which is simply to say a "substantial period of time" or an "extended interval." At first, it was typically used to indicate the lifespan of a single person, though sometimes it could be used of a considerably shorter period (even, as it happens, a single year). It came over time to mean something like a discrete epoch, or a time far in the past, or an age far off in the future", and also "John Chrysostom, in his commentary on Ephesians, even used the word aiōnios of the kingdom of the devil specifically to indicate that it is temporary (for it will last only till the end of the present age, he explains)".

Unto the ages of ages - Wikipedia

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If we interpret Revelation 20:10 through the lens of a God of Love, a God of Grace, and a God of Mercy, we find that there is no reason whatsoever to conclude that 'infinity' is what God intended here. Furthermore, since we already have plenty of proof that the Beast is reincarnated 'age after age', or 'lifetime after lifetime' it is perfectly reasonable to conclude that 'for ever and ever', at least in this verse, means 'reincarnation after reincarnation'.

 

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One verse at a time...

Matthew 25:46
"And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."

'Everlasting Punishment' and 'Life Eternal' are two locations that people go 'into' when they are Born Again.

• Life Eternal = New Heavens and New Earth
• Everlasting Punishment = This Heavens and This Earth

The two locations are juxtaposed to one another. Obviously, we all currently exist in Everlasting Punishment.

Note that the opposite of the New Heavens and New Earth is NOT Hell. The opposite of Hell is Abraham's Bosom.

It is imperative that the Student realizes that the word 'punishment' is to be understood as correction.

Strong's 2851: kolasis
Definition: Correction

Strong's Greek: 2851. κόλασις (kolasis) -- correction

We are in a Correctional Facility.

 

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The most obvious one of course...

Matthew 11:14
"And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come."

Either Jesus lied or he did not. Which is it?

 

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Hebrews 9:27 Study

“If all we had was one life, then no one would be able to be Born Again.”​

The following verse is often misrepresented as 'debunking' Biblical Reincarnation:

Hebrews 927
“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.”

The common false dogma is that the verse says something like...

“Everyone must die, and it is only one time.”

If this were True, then many verses in the Bible would be in severe contradiction. One example would be verses about the Rapture. Millions of Christians look forward to the day they will not taste of death and be with the LORD in the air...

1 Thessalonians 417
“Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

If Hebrews 9:27 is teaching that ‘everyone must die’, then the above verse is a lie.

What about Enoch and Elijah? They never died. Did God lie again?

Genesis 524
“And Enoch walked with God and he was not; for God took him.”

2 Kings 2:11
“And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.”

Some believe that Enoch and Elijah are Two Witnesses that will appear in the future, and then be killed. If they were Translated into Glorified Bodies, then this would again contradict Scripture in many ways. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom. Glorified Bodies are immortal. Ironically, Enoch and Elijah would have to be reincarnated into corrupt bodies to be able to be killed.

What about Lazarus who rose from the dead?

John 1114
“Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.”

Did Lazarus die once? No. If Lazarus did not die again, he would be alive to this very day. Moreover, he would somehow be immortal since people “only die one time” according to the false interpretation. This would be an unlikely scenario.

And the Valley of Dry Bones?

Ezekiel 3710
“So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.”

There are so many stories of the dead rising again, only to die later.

And let us not forget the most condemning verses contradicting the “die once” dogma...

Revelation 211
“He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.”

A second death is a second death, not a first death. Thus, 'die once' and 'die twice' is an obvious contradiction no matter how one tries to spin it. There are several verses that mention a Second Death, thus there are no problems with 'translation errors'.

Obviously, Hebrews 9:27 has been grossly misinterpreted by those that try and use it to debunk Reincarnation.

If we go outside of Scripture and actually look for evidence, we find that there are thousands upon thousands of very well documented cases of children remembering past lives. What does the average Christian say about it? The Children are “demon possessed”. Is this True? Where are the verses in the Bible supporting this claim?

Here is what Hebrews 9:27 actually teaches:

“Every death will be judged.”

That is all there is to it. One Death = One Judgement. Plain and simple. Hebrews 9:27 does not 'debunk reincarnation', if anything, it supports it by teaching that no one can get away with sin. One cannot live a life full of sinfulness and escape judgement each time. They will reap what they sow in their next life if they are not redeemed. All is fair. All is just.

The bottom line is that God Truly is Love and will redeem everyone in the end, no matter how many incarnations it takes.

 

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The Biggest Lie Ever Told​

What is the biggest lie ever told? That a God of Love will burn and torment billions of people (or more) for infinity. Annihilation is another big lie. Ironically, teachings like that actually make God the bad guy and Satan the good guy. Christians have yet to wake up to the obvious.

Where does the 'biggest lie ever told' have its beginnings? In Genesis, the first book of the Bible. A big lie requires a tangled web of one misinterpretation after another until the Christian becomes so indoctrinated with false dogma, they are unable to see the Truth right in front of their faces. Even when shown how their beliefs are in error, they will almost always reject any form of correction.

We will now go over the very first lie that Christians are told:

Genesis 2:17
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

Ask any non-Christian, unfamiliar with the Bible and its teachings, what their interpretation of the above verse is upon reading it for the first time. The answer will be predictable. They will state that whoever eats the Forbidden Fruit will die on that very day.

In other words:

• The word 'day' means a literal day, as in twenty-four hours or less.
• The phrase 'surely die' means a physical death.

And why wouldn't they interpret it that way? Nothing in the context of Genesis suggests that the word 'day' or the phrase 'surely die' has some 'mystical', 'spiritual', or 'non-literal' meaning.

This is a common problem that is often discussed outside of Christian forums. Why is it a problem? Because now God looks like a liar because Adam and Eve went on to live and have children. In other words, they did not die on that very day as God had warned. God is then proclaimed to be the liar, and Satan is proclaimed to be the one who told the Truth...

Genesis 3:4
"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die."

A quick web search reveals many examples. Here are a couple:

Weak attempts are then made by Christians to resolve what appears to be a glaring contradiction. Through various forms of 'mental gymnastics' false solutions are ultimately provided...

• Day is not literal!
• Surely die is not literal!

And presto magicko, the problem disappears. Or does it? According to Biblical Scholars that know Hebrew, the answer is *absolutely not*. The problem does *not* disappear.

What most Christians are unaware of is that Hebrew has many rules that one must follow to translate and interpret it correctly. When all is said and done, the precise meanings of 'day' and 'surely die' in Genesis 2:17 are LITERAL. No amount of mental gymnastics will ever change that fact!

A good study may be found here...

Finally, to interpret Genesis 2:17 as announcing natural consequences instead of a juridical penalty ignores the overwhelming biblical evidence of how authors used the phrase in question throughout the Old Testament. As such, the natural consequences interpretation seems to establish human arbiters as higher authorities than the text to determine its truthfulness and relevance. Scripture no longer interprets Scripture.

Dying You Shall Die: The meaning of Genesis 2:17

When I was a district pastor, one of the more interesting elements in my work was fielding questions about a word or phrase from the original biblical languages. Like first year Hebrew students, members have unparalleled access to Internet and software resources that enable them to know enough...

www.ministrymagazine.org

Here is a Biblical Scholar that concludes that God lied because, again, the Hebrew says what it says...

Here is his Wikipedia page:

Daniel O. McClellan is an American biblical scholar and social media personality. He is a public scholar of the Bible and religion and an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Daniel McClellan - Wikipedia

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As usual, the false dogma that the Bible does not teach reincarnation has resulted in practically every person on the planet getting Genesis 2:17 wrong.