Science conflicting with the Bible

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Hades (not to be confused with Gehenna <the lake of fire> is the keeping place for the souls of: 1.Those who have died physically. A. Unbelievers in an unpleasant level called Sheol B. Believers in the uppermost, pleasant level called Paradise. 2. Angels who assumed human forms in Genesis 6 chained in the lowermost level called Tartarus.
The bodies of the dead believers in Paradise will be resurrected and their entire beings will appear before the Lord's judgement seat (along with living believers) at His return; to determine their wages earned <not eternal salvation- which is secure> according to their works. Those who are qualified to receive the wedding-feast kingdom 1,000-years enjoyment with the Lord as His Bride will do so. Those who are not mature in Christ or are unqualified will undergo further discipline (wailing & gnashing of teeth, in out DARKness <NOT Purgatory>) to mature them to be ready in their being for the New heavens and new earth.
The unbelievers, demons, and fallen angels will be judged at the great white throne judgment at the END of the millinium, and will be cast into the lake of fire. At this point, all of the negative beings will be eternally dealt with, so there will no longer be any use for hades- which is why it and death will then be cast into the lake of fire.
The first resurrection will be of the physical bodies, yet an uncorruptible one.
The lamb marries a city, the New Jerusalem- which is not a physical city <but will have a physical location on the earth> but is all of the believers constituted to be His counterpart.
 
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Hades (not to be confused with Gehenna <the lake of fire> is the keeping place for the souls of: 1.Those who have died physically. A. Unbelievers in an unpleasant level called Sheol B. Believers in the uppermost, pleasant level called Paradise. 2. Angels who assumed human forms in Genesis 6 chained in the lowermost level called Tartarus.
The bodies of the dead believers in Paradise will be resurrected and their entire beings will appear before the Lord's judgement seat (along with living believers) at His return; to determine their wages earned <not eternal salvation- which is secure> according to their works. Those who are qualified to receive the wedding-feast kingdom 1,000-years enjoyment with the Lord as His Bride will do so. Those who are not mature in Christ or are unqualified will undergo further discipline (wailing & gnashing of teeth, in out DARKness <NOT Purgatory>) to mature them to be ready in their being for the New heavens and new earth.
The unbelievers, demons, and fallen angels will be judged at the great white throne judgment at the END of the millinium, and will be cast into the lake of fire. At this point, all of the negative beings will be eternally dealt with, so there will no longer be any use for hades- which is why it and death will then be cast into the lake of fire.
The first resurrection will be of the physical bodies, yet an uncorruptible one.
The lamb marries a city, the New Jerusalem- which is not a physical city <but will have a physical location on the earth> but is all of the believers constituted to be His counterpart.

You don't explain the lake of fire, what it is, where it is. You don't mention this Earth and the Universe passing away forever and us existing on a new Earth which has no sea or Sun. This new Earth is a place halfway between us and Gods holy realm, where a new Jerusalem descends and God resides within. Just like he resided in the Ark of the Covenant with the Jews. This new Earth has trees of life which we may freely eat, and it grows fruit monthly.
The lake of fire in my opinion is the Sun. If you stood near the surface is would look like a lake of fire, vast with no visible horizon. This is where the Earth will go.
You haven't mentioned the rapture either which happens before the tribulation of 7 years. This is when Jesus selects his bride and takes them to a safe place, to keep them from the tribulation.
 
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Everyone on this planet uses and trusts science in their everyday lives. The car you drive couldn't have been made without science, the medicine used to treat diseases was created using science, the physics involved in sending man to the moon could not have been discovered without science... The computer that you're staring at is the product of science. It's man's way of knowing the laws of nature and manipulating them the way we desire them to be. Biological science is used to help us study DNA, which in turn can explain the micro evolution we see today amongst dog breeds and artificially created foods and life.

Science IS the way that our universe works! If you trust so much in science, then why do you knock it down when it conflicts with something written in the 2,000 year old bible?

If you'd like me to explain my reasoning behind evolution or anything of such sort, please feel free to ask me...

First of all, science is a philosophy, actually epistemology (theories of knowledge). Since the Scientific Revolution it has been focused exclusively on natural phenomenon, Newton described it in this way:

Rule 1: We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances.

Rule 2: Therefore to the same natural effects we must, as far as possible, assign the same causes.

Rule 3: The qualities of bodies, which admit neither intensification nor remission of degrees, and which are found to belong to all bodies within the reach of our experiments, are to be esteemed the universal qualities of all bodies whatsoever.

Rule 4: In experimental philosophy we are to look upon propositions inferred by general induction from phenomena as accurately or very nearly true, not withstanding any contrary hypothesis that may be imagined, till such time as other phenomena occur, by which they may either be made more accurate, or liable to exceptions.(Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica, Rules of Reasoning in Philosophy)​

That would be familiar to any grade school student of reasonable maturity. It's a, 'methodology for handling unknown phenomena in nature and reaching towards explanations for them'.

Here's the thing, God creating life on this planet is not a natural phenomenon, evolution is a living theory, it starts after life is created. There is no contradiction between creation and evolution. The scientific definition for evolution is 'the change of alleles (traits) in populations over time'. What is in direct contradiction of essential Christian doctrine is Darwinian a priori (without prior) naturalistic assumptions.

In other words, all causes going back to the Big Bang must be naturalistic to the exclusion of God. The conflict is between atheistic materialism and Christian theism, not evolution and creation. Evolution can't contradict creation because it doesn't start until life already exists, like I said, it's a living theory.

Oh and by the way, the Genesis account of creation is more like 4,000 years old. The New Testament does confirm the Genesis account of creation of Adam in no uncertain terms but the focus is on original sin. Creation is never questioned in a Christian context, it's a given:

We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, light from light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father;
through him all things were made.
(Nicene Creed)

Have a nice day :)
Mark
 
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