Moon light - the word of God vs falsely so called science

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That really is interesting. I really never thought about it that way--not from an historical viewpoint. My opinion was based on the fact that Baptists follow Protestant doctrine rather than Traditional Christian doctrine.

No -- your opinion is based on what academia tells you.

You need those good grades to get a good job, so you listen to your instructors.

And who are they listening to?

The nine muses.

And those nine are listening to you-know-who.

:doh:
 
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^_^ -- Wow.

For someone who doesn't want to tell us what he is, you're sure willing to tell us what we are, aren't you? ;)
I don't wish to be seen as speaking for my church, because some of my beliefs are seen as eccentric even in that context. I also don't want my church to have to share the abuse handed out in this forum to those who don't "believe the Bible." If you're all that interested there is an obvious clue in my screen name.
 
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I don't wish to be seen as speaking for my church, because some of my beliefs are seen as eccentric even in that context.

So are mine.

And I'm not afraid to put them right up in the storefront window for others to see.

And while I'm not speaking for my church, per se -- (my pastor, for example, is a YEC) -- my church doesn't get hit with academic questions like I do.

In other words, I have a superficial knowledge of what they believe, but that's as far as it goes.
 
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Anyone know where the switch is located to turn the moon's light on and off?

24° 52′ 48″ N, 99° 16′ 12″ E

(Next to the Edison Crater ;))
 
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Not about the geometry and structure of the Sun and Moon.

Catholic church is very much in favour of science.

God gave us science remember. He gave it to us through learned people.
 
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Catholic church is very much in favour of science.
Some. They still aren't that friendly with science that challenges their dogmas.
God gave us science remember. He gave it to us through learned people.
Please don't try to take away our achievements. No god every gave me any science. I do my own work.
 
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Some. They still aren't that friendly with science that challenges their dogmas.

Please don't try to take away our achievements. No god every gave me any science. I do my own work.

God created us. Without God we are doomed...
 
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Since this post has veered off moonlight lets steer it back to some relevance in this case sunlight.
Here is an image I took of the Sun.


I hope you are not going to make one your stupid offensive comments and claim it is another fake image.
This is one of those freakish images where the 1/6000th second exposure corresponded to when the earth's atmosphere was very still and revealed mottled surface details due to solar convection that is not ordinarily seen in a 5 inch telescope without expensive line filters to bring out the detail.

Being an object which produces light where there are no shadows, the sunspots are regions of cooler temperature while the darkening of the limb is due to variations in the solar atmosphere temperature which increases with depth.
At and near the centre of the solar image, an observer sees the deepest and hottest layers that emit the most light.
When approaching the limb, the gas density decreases with increasing radius as the Sun is a sphere where only the upper, cooler layers are observed at the limb which produce less light.

The Catholic Church like certain members in this forum read their own ideas into the Bible.
The Church was influenced by the teachings of Aristotle and incorporated ideas that are not explicitly found in the Bible such as the Sun being a perfect unblemished stationary body.
The invention of the telescope and the subsequent observation of sunspots which moved across the surface indicated the Sun was not a perfect unblemished stationary body and the Church's position unraveled as the science based on evidence took over.

Note the similarities between @d taylor and the Church of the 17th century which initially denied the evidence basing their interpretation on an idea which was never found in the Bible.
Truly impressive photograph. It has been worth enduring the nonsense from certain members to get the opportunity to view it. I'm blown away that you could get that detail/quality with such a small telescope. Brilliant. Literally.
 
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I will add you the over flowing list of christian's who has let science affect their Bible understanding.

When a biblical text is interpreted outside of its historical context, it is often unconsciously interpreted in terms of the reader's own culture, time and beliefs. This has happened more than once to Genesis 1: To avoid distorting Genesis 1 in this way, the serious exegete will insist upon placing this chapter within its own historical context.

Your approach and meaning is derived purely from knowledge of modern Western science and simply read into the text. Which is is eisegetical, not exegetical.
You read into the text irregardless of what it actually says, and you use your fe eisegesis to likewise describe natural phenomena. And also use your eisegesis to make your judgments concerning anyone- athiest or Christian- who doesn't agree with your distortions.

God did not make such a messed up solar system as you insist that it is. God has made this solar system in general like every other in the universe. All planets and stars are spherical.

The complete history concerning the firmament is that it once was above the earth but since Noah's flood it no longer is. You always and only point to one portion of history then claim that the firmament is still there. But natural phenomena proves that it isn't. You use photos of the moon to put forth your case but where is a photo of a still existing firmament? If it truly is there it should be viewable in the same vicinity or there abouts as the space station. And I'd think that if it could be seen then you fe'rs would all have a photo of it to prove to everyone that you are right.

But you've no doubt looked.. to come up empty of any. But rather than consider that the atmosphere shows it's not there, you'd rather believe that all science has erased it from every photo, even as you believe that every photo distorts a flat earth by using a fish eye lense.

I frankly have no interest in such intellectual dishonesty. Which is what I'd have to do if I believed things like you do.
 
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I can answer that...AV's position is based on Embedded Age. It has nothing to do with theology.
And to be very clear, @AV1611VET can't answer not a single follow up question, can't apply his "embedded age theory" on any real life situation. Worse, he begs not to mention any situation outside Genesis one.
 
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QV please, BCP -- (you too, Warden):

So, why aren’t Baptist Protestants? Because Baptists have never been part of the Roman Catholic Church. Baptists never splintered from Catholicism (such as Lutherans and Episcopalians), nor have we splintered from the splinter groups (such as Methodists). Although this may sound far-fetched to some, history proves this to be true. In fact, it was Sir Isaac Newton who said, “The modern Baptists formerly called Anabaptists are the only people that never symbolized with the Papacy.”

SOURCE
Just out of curiosity, wold that description not fit the Coptic church better?
 
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And to be very clear, @AV1611VET can't answer not a single follow up question, can't apply his "embedded age theory" on any real life situation. Worse, he begs not to mention any situation outside Genesis one.

Have you seen my test questions I made up some time ago?

1. Define embedded age.
2. Explain the difference between creatio ex nihilo and creatio ex materia; and give two examples of each.
3. Why is "heaven" singular in Genesis 1, but plural in Genesis 2?
4. Eden in the Bible is known as __________ on a secular map.
5. Put the following in order that they appeared in the universe: whales, stars, trees, sun, land, sea, outer space.
6. What day was Adam created on?
7. Was the universe created a closed system and, if not, what kind of energy did it run off of? if it was created open, what closed it?
8. Describe terra aqua and what kind of water it consisted of and why.
9. Photosynthesis required light from the sun prior to the Fall. true or false?
10. Explain how a 24-hour day could transpire before the sun was created.
11. Explain the difference between "miracles" and "magic."
12. What literary device reconciles Genesis 1 and Genesis 2?
13. When discussing Creationism, why should one never let himself stray from Genesis 1 or 2?
14. What was the first object in the universe that had mass?
 
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