Moon light - the word of God vs falsely so called science

trophy33 said:

For all what its worth, you are. Taking Genesis literally word for word, genealogies, global flood geology etc.

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Agreed!!

trophy33 said:

Genesis was not written by God. Its a mythological drama or possibly a vision written by a bronze-age human author. You may notice that God is described in the 3rd person, i.e. the author is not God and it is not even presented as a dictation or similar.

Also, the point of Genesis is theological, not scientific. And here lies its inspiration and timelessness.

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Ok i have heard you preach your Bible beliefs before, so nothing new in your post, i have not read before. Did not agree with it when i read it awhile back and still do not agree with your beliefs now. Have a nice life.

d taylor said:

Ok i have heard you preach your Bible beliefs before, so nothing new in your post, i have not read before. Did not agree with it when i read it awhile back and still do not agree with your beliefs now. Have a nice life.

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The same. Just a note, forum conversations are not preaching, you got it wrong.

d taylor said:

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When a biblical text is interpreted outside of its historical context, it is often unconsciously interpreted in terms of the reader's own culture, time and beliefs. This has happened more than once...

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Some of us think that it is happening to you now.

BCP1928 said:

Some of us think that it is happening to you now.

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Probably why you believe what you do, not knowing the difference. My interpretations are solely based on The Bible. I use The Bible to interpret The Bible.

trophy33 said:

For all what its worth, you are. Taking Genesis literally word for word, genealogies, global flood geology etc.

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A yec by any other name is still a yec, but less honest.

d taylor said:

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Probably why you believe what you do, not knowing the difference. My interpretations are solely based on The Bible. I use The Bible to interpret The Bible.

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Yes, we know. But it is a minority view within Christianity and, as such, does not automatically excuse your self-righteousness.

BCP1928 said:

Yes, we know. But it is a minority view within Christianity and, as such, does not automatically excuse your self-righteousness.

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So is the narrow way, which is only through belief in Jesus. So were the 2 spies (Caleb and Joshua) out of the 12 sent, so were the 7000 who did not bow to baal.

Minority's are throughout The Bible.

trophy33 said:

For all what its worth, you are. Taking Genesis literally word for word, genealogies, global flood geology etc.

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If I work on cars and take the auto manual literally, it doesn't mean I'm an auto mechanic.

dlamberth said:

Agreed!!

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How old SHOULD I say the moon is, if I'm a YEC?

How old do I actually say the moon is?

Let me guess.

You don't care what I say.

Else you'd have to admit I'm not a YEC.

Estrid said:

A yec by any other name is still a yec, but less honest.

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I'm not a YEC.

And until you learn what YEC's believe vis-a-vis what I believe, you'll continue to make this mistake.

d taylor said:

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It is well documented that we do not agree on God's creation, have a nice life.

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It is also well documented your refusal to answer questions.
Your non answer is an answer as you can't show in Genesis any specific reference to the moon producing its own light.
Even the creationist site AIG well known for its gross misrepresentation of science comes to the same conclusion and ultimately moonlight is reflected sunlight.


When it comes to disagreeing the difference between you and me, I don't have your agenda of engaging in character assassination to make a point, I allow the evidence to speak for itself.

AV1611VET said:

How old SHOULD I say the moon is, if I'm a YEC?

How old do I actually say the moon is?

Let me guess.

You don't care what I say.

Else you'd have to admit I'm not a YEC.

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My guess is that you would say that the moon was put into place by God some 6000 years ago. That's clearly a YEC position.
With all of your statements and points of arguments I'm unable to view you as anything other than a YEC.
Sorry.

d taylor said:

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So is the narrow way, which is only through belief in Jesus. So were the 2 spies (Caleb and Joshua) out of the 12 sent, so were the 7000 who did not bow to baal.

Minority's are throughout The Bible.

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Which still doesn't exclude your self-righteousness.

dlamberth said:

My guess is that you would say that the moon was put into place by God some 6000 years ago.

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Your guess is correct.

dlamberth said:

That's clearly a YEC position.

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That's clearly other positions as well.

dlamberth said:

With all of your statements and points of arguments I'm unable to view you as anything other than a YEC.

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So you view me as a YEC because your arms are tied?

That's too bad.

dlamberth said:

Sorry.

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So am I.

AV1611VET said:

Your guess is correct.



That's clearly other positions as well.



So you view me as a YEC because your arms are tied?

That's too bad.



So am I.

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What is the theological significance of the distinction?

BCP1928 said:

What is the theological significance of the distinction?

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I can answer that...AV's position is based on Embedded Age. It has nothing to do with theology.

BCP1928 said:

What is the theological significance of the distinction?

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Its physical age.

YEC

Physical age of the earth: 6027 years.
Existential age of the earth: 6027 years.

Embedded Age

Physical age of the earth: God's will.*
Existential age of the earth: 6027 years.

* However old God willed it to be on the day He created it in 4004 BC. It could be 10,000 years old, or it could be 10,000,000 years old, or whatever God willed it to be. But however old it is, it has only been in existence for 6027 years.

dlamberth said:

I can answer that...AV's position is based on Embedded Age. It has nothing to do with theology.

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Would you know it, if it did?

AV1611VET said:

Would you know it, if it did?

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I believe I would.