‘Let Love Speak’: No One Should Die Alone

COMMENTARY: ‘A Christian knows when it is time to speak of God,’ says Benedict XVI, ‘and when it is better to say nothing and to let love alone speak.’

I live in a country in which euthanasia has run amok. Compassion has been replaced by killing. It’s become normal.

A few of us tried to stop it. But the odds, as it turned out, were against us.

I was a career journalist. I watched and reported on our descent into madness. It was depressing to realize that friends and colleagues thought state-sanctioned death was progressive.

I soon realized the only thing I could do was to accompany those who had chosen a natural death on their journey home to God. It was the answer to quell the frustration of living in a society in which some lives are considered disposable. It was also a way to exercise my faith. So a few years ago I became a hospice volunteer. It was the last thing I ever expected to do but it turned out to be one of the great blessings of my life. I believe it was also a blessing to those who were dying.

Continued below.

Church attacked but still meets. 40,000 Bibles to N. Africa. Persecution for "foreign" religion.

  • Dec. 29, 2022 | Sri Lanka​

    Church Attacked, Continues to Meet

    [2] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Pastor Srikanth and congregation.
    Pasikuda Christians who were injured when a Hindu mob attacked them
    After the 2004 tsunami, the Sri Lankan government relocated survivors from Pasikuda to another village. Pastor Srikanth, among those relocated, shared the gospel there, and many accepted the Lord. In 2019, Hindu villagers began to oppose the worship in Pastor Srikanth's home. Read More.
  • Dec. 29, 2022 | North Africa​

    40,000 Bibles Reach North African Nation

    [1] prayer in [1] nation have been posted for Bible distributors.
    Bibles in storage awaiting distribution
    Front-line workers thank God that officials allowed 40,000 Bibles printed in a local language to enter a North African nation. "We encountered numerous unexpected obstacles within the last month in trying to clear the container out of the port," said one front-line worker. Read More.
  • Dec. 29, 2022 | Laos​

    New Believers Face Persecution for Choosing "Foreign" Religion

    [1] prayer in [1] nation have been posted for Linh and Keon.
    Christianity is unwelcome as a foreign religion in Laos.
    Two Laotian men, Linh and Keon, heard the gospel from Christians in their respective villages. Though afraid of the police and knowing that conversion could cause much trouble for them, they attended a worship service and prayed with the pastor to accept Christ as Lord. Read More.

Please..please.. pray

I ask that you give me, my people(Ha-young, Ye-young, Ui-seop, Jung-won, Hye-ok, Yul-bin, Suzy, Eun-tae, In-sook, Im-hak, Tan-ae), and all who read it and pray revelation by the will of God’s son and let us know the true father God. Please send us workers for the harvest. I desire for what you wish to gather as the following recorded Word be gathered through our lives, so Jesus, please come to us quickly with your sovereign power and take away all the armament of those who stole from us all this time and let us divide the spoil.


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"But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. Or how can anyone enter the strong man’s house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters.”


Matthew 12:28-30

Matthew 2:13-23: God's protection and plan

Now when they had gone, behold, an angel of the Lord *appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Get up! Take the Child and His mother and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is going to search for the Child to destroy Him.” So Joseph got up and took the Child and His mother while it was still night, and left for Egypt. He remained there until the death of Herod. This was to fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: “OUT OF EGYPT I CALLED MY SON.” Then when Herod saw that he had been tricked by the magi, he became very enraged, and sent and slew all the male children who were in Bethlehem and all its vicinity, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had determined from the magi. Then what had been spoken through Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled: “A VOICE WAS HEARD IN RAMAH, WEEPING AND GREAT MOURNING, RACHEL WEEPING FOR HER CHILDREN; AND SHE REFUSED TO BE COMFORTED, BECAUSE THEY WERE NO MORE.” But when Herod died, behold, an angel of the Lord *appeared in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, and said, “Get up, take the Child and His mother, and go into the land of Israel; for those who sought the Child’s life are dead.” So Joseph got up, took the Child and His mother, and came into the land of Israel. But when he heard that Archelaus was reigning over Judea in place of his father Herod, he was afraid to go there. Then after being warned by God in a dream, he left for the regions of Galilee, and came and lived in a city called Nazareth. This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophets: “He shall be called a Nazarene.”

This passage combines an account of God's protection of Jesus, prophecy, and the pain of those in the Bethlehem area as Herod massacres their children.

The early childhood of Jesus was characterized by a lot of moving around, on the run from people who saw him as a threat to their own pretensions and status.

Woven into this is the guidance of angels. It seems that Joseph was a man who listened to God and was receptive to his guidance through angels who usually appeared to him in dreams. First, he accepts a pregnant Mary as his wife even though he knows that he did not father the child. Second, he moves his family into Egypt to protect them against Herod, and then when the time is right he brings them back into Israel but to Galilee rather than Judea. The center of the Jewish world and his own tribal roots and networks appear to have been in the Bethlehem area but with Herod and then Archalaeus ruling there he prioritizes the safety of his family

It is not a small thing to move country. There was a community of Jews in Egypt and many of them were exiled from the Kingdom of Herod the Great.

Included in this story is a typological echo of Israel's time in Egypt. He who was the representative of Israel echoed their history in his own childhood. Then after Herod dies there is a fulfillment of the prophecy given to Hosea 11:1

When Israel was a youth I loved him,
And out of Egypt I called My son.


The terrible tragedy of the massacre of the babies in Bethlehem is a reminder of the brutality of worldly power and its indifference to the value of human life. Herod's reputation for brutality is perfectly demonstrated in this inexcusable genocide. He exhibits all the paranoia of a dictator keen to preserve his power, whatever the cost to those around him.

Again prophecy is fulfilled in this act of unspeakable evil.

A VOICE WAS HEARD IN RAMAH, WEEPING AND GREAT MOURNING, RACHEL WEEPING FOR HER CHILDREN; AND SHE REFUSED TO BE COMFORTED, BECAUSE THEY WERE NO MORE Jer 31:15

It is clear that the powers of this world were not overjoyed at the arrival of Jesus. While he had been welcomed and acclaimed by the wise men he was not so by the indigenous rulers of Israel. Herod's family were not even Jews but rather Idumaean. Also, he was little more than a puppet king for Augustus Caesar Emperor of Rome. He accomplished great works like the temple and the port of Caesarea Maritima. But his paranoia compelled actions of unspeakable evil.

I was also intrigued by the reference to a nonbiblical prophecy here - that Jesus would be called a Nazarene. Clearly, it was in common parlance at the time but it cannot be found in the scripture itself.

I am wondering how to focus a sermon on this passage. There is the fulfillment of prophecy, God's protection from the brutal evil empire of this world and then there is Joseph listening to God and acting in faithful obedience. There is the sense that the triumph of good has never been an easy thing having to overcome all sorts of hurdles to that. The evil plans and paranoia of one king are overcome by the loving protection of God of His Son, another greater King who will become the King of all Kings.


What strikes you in this passage?

Reading the Bible with Middle Eastern Eyes

Hi, I've changed cultures twice in my life. I'm always amazed at how people in other countries can totally think differently and even interpret what I'm saying differently. And then I interpret what I observe in another country different. It can take decades to truly understand another culture. So, the Bible is over 2,000 years old and written in the Middle East. How did they think? I made a short video about it. Watch it. Not that a short five minute video will totally clear everything up, but it might help you in reading the Scriptures some.

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If the "Sons of God" in Genesis 6 were angels...

If the supernatural view of the first part of Genesis 6 is taken, where it's Angels making human hybrids and not this kinda goofy redundant view that it's just men.. cause if it is just men then it's men reproduced, had daughters and then.. men saw them and took them as wives and reproduced? Wait isn't that how they got the daughters in the first place?

But anyway.. if it's true that it's Angels with Humans reproducing that made the Nephilim,

#1 it lends credence to I Enoch, which Jude, and Peter reference, Jude directly quoting, and Jesus appeared to reference in Matthew 22 (there is NOWHERE in the canon old testament that indicates marriage doesn't exist after the resurrection, but I Enoch gives the same rationale for there not being marriage after the resurrection as Jesus gave... even though it's a difficult thing to take in and kind of makes little sense as women, marriage and procreation were introduced BEFORE the fall, not after, but the rationale of no marriage and no procreation because no death is hard to reconcile with there not being death until the fall but marriage existed before the fall)
#2 It challenges very popular beliefs such as, simply seeing God's glory eliminates all desire for anything like sex or children, just staring at God fulfills all desires. Popular teaching but, if Angels who lived in Heaven and beheld God in all His glory chose to "leave their first estate" to marry human women and have children... why wouldn't we? If God's glory was all we'd ever need, why'd God provide other things and other gifts? Angels were created just to glorify God, and God never gave them things like food, a planet, animals, women, etc. So if any being would be totally fulfilled by God's glory, and desire nothing else.. it'd be Angels... but they still chose other things, they still chased after "strange flesh". Meanwhile we were given many other things, and given desires for those other things, to be fulfilled by things other than staring at Jesus. Praising God doesn't satiate hunger or thirst drive for instance, God PROVIDED the means to satiate them instead.
#3 It also challenges the popular belief that the elimination of sin in the New Earth is accomplished by beholding God's glory wiping away desires for anything else. If Angels can sin, after knowing God's glory but choosing something they didn't even have a biological need for.. wouldn't we also still have that potential, having been designed with needs that are fulfilled by providence rather than directly by beholding glory? Like we're already predisposed to choosing to satiate a need rather than just staring at God and praising Him. Resurrected Jesus still .. ate food for instance, and the imagery given even in Revelation 21 and 22 still involves eating and drinking, biological drives that are fulfilled through things that God provides, rather than just, glory.

What prevents us from desiring physical intimacy from the opposite gender when even Angels desired it?

Does God just.. make us all Barbie and Ken dolls so we're physically incapable?
Does God change all women into men? I mean after all, only the male gender is really addressed in the later chapters of Resurrection aside from the bride imagery, the New Jerusalem is referred to by feminine pronouns, but the individuals, the overcomers, are referred to by masculine pronouns only.

Revelation 21
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Mind you I don't believe that's how it's solved but I do have to pose the question of possible ways for it to be solved, because Angels choosing women over God's glory challenges the popular belief.

Most other sins can be addressed just by living in love, God's providence, and the impossibility of dying. Why bother stealing if God gives all things freely? Why bother coveting if God has provided for all needs? Can't murder when nobody can die, can't commit Adultery if there is no marriage, and can't lie if everyone already knows the truth.

But fornication.... that's a tough one to solve unless the people are physically incapable due to being anatomically incomplete, or there are no such thing as women anymore to desire, or the law itself changes... because the desire for physical intimacy exists often as a RESULT of loving someone, and no that desire is not created just out of biological need to reproduce, eliminating the possibility of biological reproduction does not eliminate sexual desire. Old people past menopause still have that desire, sterile couples still have that desire, and if Angels who were never created to have that desire or biological drive could learn to desire it... new biology doesn't solve it, living in love doesn't solve it, and if God's not providing a means for it, then it becomes an unmet desire, as it was an unmet desire for the Angels, and so they thought to fulfill it on their own.
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The Christian of the Future Will Either Be a Mystic or Cease to Be.

The quote: "The devout Christian of the future will either be a ‘mystic,’ one who has experienced ‘something,’ or he will cease to be anything at all." Karl Rahner

The idea is fairly simple: In a world where dogmatic claims amount to little more than mere opinion, unless one has experienced God, their claims are subject to a scrutiny under which they cannot survive except as mere opinion.

Is the devout Christian a mystic who relies on the experience of God's presence, a mere believer in dogma, or simply someone with an opinion?

Good morning

My new is Dan, 37, from Australia, Christian and on a six month break from my enrolment at university in Bachelor Of Counselling and about to start community srices course at another institution for six months. I have also worked in youth work and worked with young people in various areas (Including Education).

Whilest I was completing the Yourth Work Dipolma attafe, my friend saw I was struggling with my mental health. He gave me a needed kick to getting some help for my depression and anxiety, which was destroying my participatiom in life and in the course. He also helped me looked into turning to Christ salvation. Since then I am regularly attending meetings with my pastor and also have been dealing with life’s challenges. I believe this a fundamental test to my new faith and so far I am handling the test through prayer and reading and writing.

I thought I’d introduce myself and say hello

When the Bible lies and youre tempted beyond what you can bear...

Ok so there's a sin that I keep living in over and over again. It's a VERY strong sin that I cannot get out of because the temptation is to great. Paul tells us that God will never let us be tempted beyond what we can bear. But yeah this sin has such a powerful hold on me that I have to do it everyday. Especially in the afternoon/at night. No it's not pornography I kicked that life long habit to the curb. It's not drugs or adultery or anything quite that bad. It's gluttony, the worst sin that I'm unable to avoid no matter how hard I try. I buy healthy food, I still gain weight and indulge in gluttony because I eat a ridiculous amount of it. I'm just ever more being close to being over 500 pounds. I'm really not that far away. I can't stop no matter how hard I try, is there any hope for me?

Transracialism makes more sense than Transgenderism IMO

Yet when Rachael Doelzal (a white woman who grew up with an adopted black sister) identified as black and attempted to live her life as if she were black, she was vilified by the same people (progressives) who embrace the idea of biological men who identify as women being accepted as women (and visa versa). Why is one accepted but not the other?

Has evolution wired us for sin?

The Neuroscience of the Seven Deadly Sins -

Brain researchers are finding the sources of our nastiest temptations.
Why does being bad feel so good?
The most enjoyable sins engage the brain’s reward circuitry, including evolutionarily ancient regions such as the nucleus accumbens and hypothalamus; located deep in the brain, they provide us such fundamental feelings as pain, pleasure, reward, and punishment. More disagreeable forms of sin such as wrath and envy enlist the dorsal anterior cingulate cortex. This area, buried in the front of the brain, is often called the brain’s conflict detector, coming online when you are confronted with contradictory information or even simply when you feel pain. The more social sins (pride, envy, lust, wrath) recruit the medial prefrontal cortex. Found just behind the forehead, this region helps shape the awareness of self.
It might be too strong to claim that evolution has wired us for sin, but excessive indulgence in lust or greed could certainly put you ahead of your competitors. “Many of these sins you could think of as virtues taken to the extreme,” says Adam Safron, a research consultant at Northwestern University whose neuroimaging studies focus on sexual behavior. “From the perspective of natural selection, you want the organism to eat, to procreate, so you make them rewarding. But there’s a potential for that process to go beyond the bounds.”

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German Foreign Office in Berlin renames Bismarck room

Foreign Office re-names Bismarck room​


Otto von Bismarck himself had founded the ministry - now the so-called Bismarck room in the Foreign Office is being renamed, as reported by "Bild". The portrait of the former Chancellor in it was also taken down. In the future, the meeting room will be called the “Hall of German Unity”.

The renaming "takes into account the fact that the Federal Foreign Office sees its line of tradition as firmly anchored in Germany's democratic history," the newspaper quoted from a statement by the press office of the Federal Foreign Office. The new name takes into account "the historical development of the area in which the Politburo of the SED met during the GDR era."

A renaming was already being considered in 2018. The process was later resumed. According to "Bild", the question as to why Bismarck was no longer suitable as a namesake remained unanswered.


Debatable ....

Please pray for harmony and love between my wife and I.

My wife and I are having stress. We were coming out of a period of conflict but stress has heightened. I was trying to have over the phone charges I pressed against my wife for domestic violence dismissed with the DA but was not successful. This has led to heightened tensions. Please pray for love and peace to overcome the tension.

The first horseman of the four horseman of Rev

the first horse of the four horseman is white ...for peace ...and he had a bow ...a rainbow ...and he conquered ...so who had peace and conquered at the same time?

constantine gave Roman peace to Christians ...and he started the byzantine empire. that means Rev didn't end in 70 A.D. but the mark of the beast has been available this whole time. i think we are in Chapter 19 of Rev.

[Gen 9:16 KJV] And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.

Constantine legalized Christianity in 313 AD. He stopped the persecution of Christians.

in 380 AD, Emperor Theodosius made Catholic Christianity the State religion.

satan's seat
Revelation 2:13 KJV — I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

[Rev 17:11 KJV] And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The entire Book of Rev is about The Churches ...not just the report cards. The Seven Churches of Rev are right by where the byzantine empire started ...Constantinople ...constantine's city named after him ...current day Istanbul, Turkey.

Does the second image look like a little horn to you? it's satan's seat. Constantinople is named after constantine ..."new rome" ...he moved the capital to here. it is Istanbul now ...weird how close it is to the Seven Churches.

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Experience matters

This article gives a thorough analysis of how Biden managed to turn his presidency around while accomplishing legislative goals in a divided Congress and regaining the confidence of the international community. The linchpin of it all was that he kept his campaign promises to the best of his ability.


Biden and his team feeling vindicated by a 2022 turnaround built on the same decades-old principles - NewsBreak.
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What is the antichrist?

Peace in Christ.

The “antichrist” means the “instead-of” Christ.

The term refers to a false Christ (“another jesus” who is an “antichrist”) that is being preached by a false prophet as a substitute/imposter/decoy for you to accept and be deceived by and follow after rather than the real Jesus the Christ. There are many antichrists…..many different Jesuses being preached….all with the same goal: to cut off the life of the true Christ from being made manifest in this earth.

Their version of “jesus” is a “wild beast” and not the Lamb. The daily sacrifice of the Lamb is being removed in the lives who are being deceived by them…..and so His eternal life is never made manifest. No mortal flesh is currently being saved.

Their “jesus” is the “son” of their father and not THE Son of THE Father in Heaven. Their “jesus” is served by the keeping of the church’s codified handwriting of ordinances which is set up in their “church" and is used to judge others with….and so they continue to serve sin by doing so.

When we see the term “antichrist”, just read in the name “Jesus” in front of it to get a sense of what is being talked about: the preaching of another “jesus” who is not the Christ but a product of the spirit/breath of the antichrist.

They preach “another jesus” with another spirit to you and the source of their words in their preaching is not of the Spirit of Christ. It is not the true Christ speaking to us but a decoy of Satan and his ministers that are working in conjunction to deceive .

From Matthew 24: The MANY false prophets come forth in His name…. the name of “Jesus”… and proclaim that the “Jesus” that they are preaching is the real Christ (“I am THE Christ) when in reality they are coming forth in the name of “another Jesus” the antichrist.

They say that their “Jesus” is THE (definite article) Christ and cause MANY to receive “him” and lead many astray away from the Way of righteousness that leads to the real Christ’s eternal life being made manifest in their mortal flesh. Following after them leads us down the broad way to our mortal death.

Mat 24:4-5
(4) And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
(5) For many shall come in my name, saying, I am THE Christ; and shall deceive many.


They want you to choose their “jesus” the antichrist to follow after thereby denying the real Jesus THE Christ.

Their preaching is of the spirit or breath of the antichrist and they cut off (from those they are deceiving ) the eternal life of the real Jesus from being made manifest in our mortal flesh. NO FLESH is being saved….but God will cut short these days of tribulation we have been living in.

Mat 24:22-25 KJV
(22) And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
(23) Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.


False prophets are at work in tandem with another breath/spirit that is preaching a false Christ.

(24) For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
(25) Behold, I have told you before.


The hallmark of the preaching of false prophets is this: they do NOT preach that Jesus IS COMING now in our mortal flesh to give us eternal life in the here-and-now. This is not about His coming 2000 years ago but is about His life being made manifest now in this mortal body.

1 John 4: (2) Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

They do not preach that our mortal bodies are to be redeemed in this earth via the coming of the eternal life of the real Jesus. It is to be made manifest in our current mortal bodies….and not after we “die and go to Heaven” as universally preached by them.

He that IS COMING shall arrive and NOT DELAY. The false prophets are preaching that Jesus is delaying His coming.

After we have done the will of God, we shall receive the promise: eternal life. And that eternal life is to be had in the here-and-now…..NOT in the “here-after”.

Heb 10:36-37
(36) For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

The good news is for us NOW (salvation is NOW). He is NOT DELAYING His eternal life for us. The false prophets are neglecting to preach that He is coming now in our mortal bodies....thereby saying that He is delaying His coming.

(37) For yet a little while, and He that IS COMING will arrive, and will NOT DELAY.

This is the good news of Jesus Christ whose eternal life shall arrive in our current mortal flesh when we keep His “daily sacrifice” (always dying to sin) in our lives.

We are to ALWAYS bear about in this mortal body the dying of the Lord Jesus (the keeping of His “daily sacrifice”) so that His life is made manifest in this mortal body….in this mortal flesh.

2Co 4:10-11 KJV
(10) Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
(11) For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal fles
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Do not believe the spirit the false prophets are universally preaching with because they are not of God.

1Jn 4:1-3 KJV

(1) Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Every spirit/breath that “confesses” (meaning to acknowledge or speak the same thing) that Jesus Christ IS COMING now in the flesh (our mortal flesh) is of God.

(2) Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

Every false prophet is not preaching this.

This good news is absent from their words as they are not preaching that the eternal life of Jesus is to be made manifest in our mortal flesh. They do not preach that Jesus Christ IS COMING now in the flesh….our mortal flesh. They are not looking for His coming in that way.

They are not then preaching the doctrine of Christ but one of the “antichrist”.

Jesus DELAYS HIS COMING: They are preaching that Jesus SHALL COME some day in the future when their “jesus” is already here via the words they are preaching.

This is why John is making the contrast here. We have all heard via their preaching that Jesus SHOULD COME someday but “he” is already now in this world being preached via their spirit/breath that preaches error about the gospel.

They are preaching that Jesus “DELAYS His coming” (he should come) and are not looking for His coming in our current mortal flesh (the manifestation of His eternal life there).

Their deceived congregations are perishing in their mortal flesh while they are still “waiting” for their “prince” who shall come....another Jesus ....to arrive and have missed the true message of the gospel…the good news…for us in the here-and-now.

(3) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Again, MANY deceivers have entered the world and are not “confessing”….acknowledging…that Jesus Christ is coming in the flesh…our mortal flesh. The false prophet (the deceiver) is preaching instead “another jesus” who is the instead-of the true Christ.

2Jn 1:7 KJV

(7) For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

The many false prophets currently preaching in the world are the “people of the prince who SHALL COME” as they preach that Jesus is “delaying His coming”….which is NOT the gospel/good news of our Lord Jesus Christ.

The people of the prince that SHALL COME (as they preach that Jesus delays His coming) destroy the “sanctuary”. The “sanctuary” is the mortal body….the temple of the Spirit of God.

Dan 9:26 KJV
(26) And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


Our mortal body is the “sanctuary” that is being destroyed by them…..by their preaching of “another gospel” and not the true good news of Jesus Christ who IS COMING now in our current mortal flesh which gives us His eternal life when He arrives there.

1Co 6:19-20 KJV
(19) What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
(20) For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God'
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They cut off the Messiah. They actively cutting off the manifestation of the eternal life of the true Christ by the deception of another good news that they are preaching: Jesus supposedly shall come some day in the future rather than IS COMING now in our mortal flesh to give us His eternal life in this earth.

Retired Pope Benedict very sick. Prayers requested


Since his resignation almost ten years ago the Pope Emeritus has usually enjoyed fairly robust health for a man of his age. However, at age 95 it doesn’t take much to put life in jeopardy. My prayers for his recovery.

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What is the Catholic, Orthodox or your own Protestant denominational view on universalism?

It would be particularly good to hear from Catholics or Orthodox Christians because we don't often hear their views on this subject. If you're Protestant, like me, and you'd like to contribute, would you please only give what you believe is the established view of your denomination, if it has one, rather than your own personal viewpoint.

I'll kick off by quoting a couple of, admittedly pro-universalist, views by members of the Catholic and the Eastern Orthodox church that I read recently. It would of course be good to hear any viewpoint, whether that's pro, anti or neutral.

EO representative:

"There's no issue with Universalism in Orthodoxy, it's a permitted view. At least one of the Cappadocian Fathers who are highly revered in our Church, St. Gregory of Nyssa, was an avowed Universalist, and the theologoumenon of St. Isaac the Syrian is very convincing on the subject!"

Catholic rep:

"Catholics can believe all will be saved. We believe that "hell" as a state of rejection of God's love is at least theoretically possible; but there's nothing that says we have to believe anyone will be in that state.

Pope Benedict XVI wrote in Spe Salvi about how most people have an underlying openness to God, and "our defilement does not stain us forever" as long as we continue to reach out toward God.

It's a teaching of the Church that mitigating circumstances can reduce personal culpability for sin; and "mortal sin" actually requires 3 elements which include full knowledge and full consent, but it's not infallibly defined what those specifically mean. So along the line's of DBH's reasoning, I would say that since it's irrational to reject God, it's possible that no one is actually, in the right mind, intending to reject God as God truly is.

As others noted, Pope Francis has encouraged Fr. Richard Rohr, whose teachings strongly imply universalism and Pope Francis has straight-up said "the Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, not just Catholics, everybody!""


Here's a list of how I'd summarise the thread so far:

Catholic Anti (but current Pope Pro)
Eastern Orthodox Neutral
Lutheran Anti
Church of England Anti
Southern Baptist Anti
Pentecostal Anti
Anglo-Catholic Anti
Non-Denom Anti so far
Coptic Orthodox Anti
Seventh Day Adventist Anti
Primitive Baptist Universalists Pro
Hmm
Hmm
Attributions aren't required for the representatives because I am not claiming any authority for them. As I made clear, they are simply "a couple of, admittedly pro-universalist, views by members of the Catholic and the Eastern Orthodox church that I read recently". I found their comments interesting and a good way to get a conversation going.
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Hmm
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Thanks for the info about the Primitive Baptist Universalists. I've added them to the list.
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All4Christ
All4Christ
Mind adding attributions for the representatives you shared above? The EO one doesn’t have any information about who said it, where the person said it, etc. The quote is not representative of Orthodox official teaching, and it is important to identify who actually said it.

Is the Bible free in your hands?

People tend to capture the essence of Truth and use it to their advantage. Very few allow the Bible the freedom of expression that it commands when the Spirit is released, not entangled in human interpretative entrapment.
The Spirit is the final law, that which sets us Free. What we bound on earth...is the Bible free in your hands?

Legacy Standard Bible

"The Legacy Standard Bible is a translation that—at its core—seeks to be a window into the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. By translating individual words as consistently as possible within their various nuances, it allows the reader to discern the Author’s intent. In this way, the refinements in the LSB also preserve the legacy of the NASB."
The Origin of the LSB

Who uses this translation? What do you think of it? In your opinion, does it preserve the legacy of the New American Standard Bible (Updated)?

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