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Of course I don't expect a new believer to understand completely Who Jesus is, but if they don't realise that He has authority, that in that sense He is Lord, then The Jesus they are believing in is not the Jesus of the bible.
John 5: 38 But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
Yes, its stated if you do not abide in His word, because you do not believe. Salvation belief is more than I just I believe in Jesus it means abiding in His Word. Be-living Jesus- how did Jesus live, what did He teach.
Belief is a work. We were created for good works, like belief, faith obedience but its a choice a decision Rom 6:16
God never separated this commandment the way man has, other than starting it with Remember Exo 20:8, as He knew man would teach to forget. The commandments came in a unit of Ten numbered by design by God Himself, Exo 34:28 Deut 4:13 written personally by God's on His Authority Exo 31:18 Exo 32:16 breaking one we break them all even in the NT James 2:10-12. Our salvation is from sin Mat 1:21 we are not saved in our sins. Sin is breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 James 2:10-12 Mat 5:19-30 Rom 7:7, we must confess and forsake our sins Pro 28:13 and can only do that though love and faith in Christ, by His power John 14:15-18. The Sabbath commandment is no different than breaking the 1st commandment to not worship other gods or the 5th commandment etc 1 John 2:4. Can we do that and go to heaven? Rev 22:15 1 John 2:4 Not unless we repent and turn from our sin and turn to Christ It why Jesus in His own Words taught not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments. or one would be in fear of sin and Judgment Mat 5:19-30 A saved person abides in His word and those who do ought to walk just as He walked. 1 John 5-6 How did Jesus live, did He keep the commandments and teach us to. He sure did. Luke 4:16 Isa 56:1-6 John 14:15 John 15:10 Mat 15:3-14 Mat 5:19-30 Mat 19:17-19 etc
I believe God's gift of salvation is grace through faith Eph 2:8 obedience to God is a consequence of faith, not a means of salvation. God's law is to show us our sin Rom 3:20 Rom 7:7 and so we are not depending on our righteousness but God's Psa 119:172 Isa 56:1-6 God's law doesn't save us, only Christ saves through faith. Faith upholds the law, not voids it Rom 3:31 Anyone can say Lord Lord and believe in Jesus, but who is willing to put His will above our own. Mat 7:21-23 God's will is expressed through his Word and He wrote His will in our hearts Psa 40:8 Heb 8:10 rebelling against what God placed there is not how we are reconciled Rev 22:14-15
Thats not what I asked, I asked where does it say we can believe in Christ but not do His will and be saved. why would a saved person want to do this. This is actually the first deception in the garden, that we can disobey God and live Gen 3:4, when God stated otherwise. Genesis 2:16-17 Sad this deception is still working.
And other verses tell us what it means to believe John 5:38 John 3:16-21. The bible is not based on a verse or two. It's why its a large book and takes years to read through and we are told to live by every Word Mat 4:4, not just some words.
Not my words, there are the words of Christ. IMHO Its hard to make the case to believe in Christ but not believe what He taught or tells us to do. Seems like an oxymoron, but we all are given free will.
