Is it wrong to be disgusted by how overly sexual the world has gotten?

[Robban]

Rhetorical question, i know it's not wrong to know such a thing. But i need to get something off of my chest.
I just am sickened with how normalized it is for people to be lust filled freaks nowadays. It's a major disrespect to women (And men if they're the target of lust) especially those who are and want to be chaste. I try to teach people chastity but every time i get demonized for it, demonized for rejecting one of the seven deadly since and wanting the world to embrace one of the seven heavenly virtues instead. People would rather spread their disgusting fantasies and fetishes. It's not normal for people to look at a female and immediately think about sex or anything worse, it's a mental illness that has become accepted when it shouldn't have. People nowadays, even more so online, just can't seem to have respect, empathy or compassion, they would rather spread their own filth for personal game and attack anyone who fight back because they have been so consumed by their dens of sin to actually think with their souls.
As an aspiring creator this is a major reason why i refuse to create anything until this virus of lust has been cured from this world.
I know that we as a society really need to talk about this as it has been harming our community for far too long now and it has gotten worse with people online being more open to their sexual assault fetishes, women in real life getting harassed, especially streamers and such filth getting spread to even kids all around the world.

Most probably as old as the hills but even so there are limits, and when the bowl of sins is full in the heavens it is turned over and emptied.

The town of Ålesund Norway burned down to the ground 1904 earlier I think 1901, Fredrik Fransson a preacher who served

Det Norske Missionsförbundet was chased out of the town by a crowd armed with sticks and stones.

Because they did like what he preached, when he came near Narve he suddenly turned around to face those chasing him,

And he prophesied over them: "As you chase me today so shall you yourselves be soon chased and have to flee the same way."

There is also a fantastic awesome telling from the fire itself but it is too much for me to copy, pity, but I have a little trouble with my eyes.

 

[Jakechi]

Do you also care about rape fantasies from women? Isn't that also a form of lust?

I am sure some men have rapist fantasies. Personally I doubt they are as common as the reverse, but even so. I think it's healthier as a society that people feel comfortable talking about their fantasies. That other people also have some basic grasp of other's psychology. So they can spot red flags and have greater resources to help people who are struggling.

Saying this, I doubt most people who have these fantasies want to actually act it out. Also consider that many men who have violent fantasies of the opposite sex also harbor fantasies of the opposite sex being violent towards them.

Things are more complicated than men simply hating and wanting to hurt women.

I am not sure what you mean by society? Personally I think a lot of these attractions are genetic. These fantasies are nothing new, people just feel more comfortable talking about them because of the internet.

Your misunderstanding me, i am not saying anything you're accusing me of here, you're really trying to make this more complicated than it has to be.
Not everything is as deep as ya think it is, so please, don't try to make this something deeper than it has to be.

 

[Jakechi]

Most probably as old as the hills but even so there are limits, and when the bowl of sins is full in the heavens it is turned over and emptied.

The town of Ålesund Norway burned down to the ground 1904 earlier I think 1901, Fredrik Fransson a preacher who served

Det Norske Missionsförbundet was chased out of the town by a crowd armed with sticks and stones.

Because they did like what he preached, when he came near Narve he suddenly turned around to face those chasing him,

And he prophesied over them: "As you chase me today so shall you yourselves be soon chased and have to flee the same way."

There is also a fantastic awesome telling from the fire itself but it is too much for me to copy, pity, but I have a little trouble with my eyes.

Interesting. Can ya explain what this is supposed to mean in this context please?

 

[Robban]

Interesting. Can ya explain what this is supposed to mean in this context please?

What goes around comes around.

First I come to think of a woman in Norway who predicted that it would be more loose sexual activitet because of TV,

bedrooms scenes in films and diverse TV series, transmitted through wall s into one¨s living room.

Not so amazing today but 60-70 years ago it was.

Then came the thought of Emmanuel Milos a no messing preacher well known here in the north.

So came the Ålesund fire, I have lived in Ålesund and event is well known in detail, one elderly man had a visit from an angel

who told him not to go outside his house, he was to recite Psalms 91 and he and his house would not be harmed.

And wonder of wonders it was the only house left un touched.

I even came to think history books with their drawings of gin-palaces and prostitutes so it is nothing new,



We are in the digital age so anything can happen, I would not like to be young today.

A note of consolation:

"Trust in God, conduct yourself with integrity and God will take care of everything."

 

[Jakechi]

What goes around comes around.

First I come to think of a woman in Norway who predicted that it would be more loose sexual activitet because of TV,

bedrooms scenes in films and diverse TV series, transmitted through wall s into one¨s living room.

Not so amazing today but 60-70 years ago it was.

Then came the thought of Emmanuel Milos a no messing preacher well known here in the north.

So came the Ålesund fire, I have lived in Ålesund and event is well known in detail, one elderly man had a visit from an angel

who told him not to go outside his house, he was to recite Psalms 91 and he and his house would not be harmed.

And wonder of wonders it was the only house left un touched.

I even came to think history books with their drawings of gin-palaces and prostitutes so it is nothing new,



We are in the digital age so anything can happen, I would not like to be young today.

A note of consolation:

"Trust in God, conduct yourself with integrity and God will take care of everything."

So those who do such sin will face the hurt they gave others?

 

[Robban]

So those who do such sin will face the hurt they gave others?

That is what I believe, I also believe in reincanation of the soul.

But to the subject of sin, I do not think God is the problem when it comes to forgiveness,

rather it is man who is the problem, God is able and willing not always man.

Example:

The BigTen are given on two tablets, the first five are between God and man,

the second five are between man and man.

On Yom Kippur we for forgiveness but there is no forgiveness if one has something un dealt with concerning a fellow.

Go first and make amends make good what is ailing.

Simiar also in Matthew 5.23-24

 

[Jakechi]

So those who do such sin will face the hurt they gave others?

That is what I believe, I also believe in reincanation of the soul.

But to the subject of sin, I do not think God is the problem when it comes to forgiveness,

rather it is man who is the problem, God is able and willing not always man.

Example:

The BigTen are given on two tablets, the first five are between God and man,

the second five are between man and man.

On Yom Kippur we for forgiveness but there is no forgiveness if one has something un dealt with concerning a fellow.

Go first and make amends make good what is ailing.

Simiar also in Matthew 5.23-24

Oh i agree. I would never say God is the problem in anything.
I just want people to repent, atone and seek forgiveness.

 

[MehGuy]

Your misunderstanding me, i am not saying anything you're accusing me of here, you're really trying to make this more complicated than it has to be.
Not everything is as deep as ya think it is, so please, don't try to make this something deeper than it has to be.

Alright. I guess I am unsure what this thread is about. I don't mean to misunderstand you. What do you believe I am misunderstanding?

I mean I will say one thing.. while I believe openness and discussion about various fetishes is healthy for society I also understand on an emotional level that some of these fantasies are sad/disturbing I am not emotionally unmoved for example that rape fantasies seem to be popular with women and some men. It's sad that people have these feelings but given the environment we evolved in... we need to deal with reality.

 

[Modern Day Job]

More of a lurker here. I just have a question for those who believe sex (any kind) between consenting adults to be some sort of sin.

What do you think Adam & Eve were doing before they had any shame (meaning having had eaten the forbidden fruit that brought shame to them)? They lacked nothing that they desired prior, that is what Paradise IS.

Wasn't it God whom said "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?"

Again, being naked, what do you think Adam & Eve were doing with some of their time?

If God is LOVE, and the highest expression we have to express OUR LOVE is in our sexuality with those that WE LOVE (one or many), how can any of it be wrong?

Didn't you ever stop to think that maybe you had it all backwards?

Shame came with the forbidden fruit, not before.

 

[Jakechi]

More of a lurker here. I just have a question for those who believe sex (any kind) between consenting adults to be some sort of sin.

What do you think Adam & Eve were doing before they had any shame (meaning having had eaten the forbidden fruit that brought shame to them)? They lacked nothing that they desired prior, that is what Paradise IS.

Wasn't it God whom said "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?"

Again, being naked, what do you think Adam & Eve were doing with some of their time?

If God is LOVE, and the highest expression we have to express OUR LOVE is in our sexuality with those that WE LOVE (one or many), how can any of it be wrong?

Didn't you ever stop to think that maybe you had it all backwards?

Shame came with the forbidden fruit, not before.

What are ya trying to imply here?
Are ya trying to tell me something?

 

[Jermayn]

We are pretty much bombarded with sex from the moment we wake up till we go back to sleep in America.

 

[partinobodycular]

We are pretty much bombarded with sex from the moment we wake up till we go back to sleep in America.

That's your fault. In my day to day life I rarely notice anything sexually oriented. I can spend an hour scrolling through IG or Youtube shorts and see nothing but funny, inspirational, and heartwarming videos. Even the music videos that I watch have no such content. Plus I never watch TV unless it's sports or streamed without commercials. What you see on the internet is pretty much based on your viewing history, so if you're seeing sexually oriented content it's because you have a history of watching sexually oriented content, or the algorithm notices that you're more likely to click on links with sexy thumbnails.

I don't know where you're getting this sexual bombardment from, but I'm not seeing it.

 

[Jermayn]

That's your fault. In my day to day life I rarely notice anything sexually oriented. I can spend an hour scrolling through IG or Youtube shorts and see nothing but funny, inspirational, and heartwarming videos. Even the music videos that I watch have no such content. Plus I never watch TV unless it's sports or streamed without commercials. What you see on the internet is pretty much based on your viewing history, so if you're seeing sexually oriented content it's because you have a history of watching sexually oriented content, or the algorithm notices that you're more likely to click on links with sexy thumbnails.

I don't know where you're getting this sexual bombardment from, but I'm not seeing it.

I’m genuinely glad you’ve been able to avoid it, but I would gently push back on the idea that personal experience defines reality, especially when it comes to something as broad and culturally embedded as sexual content.

Assigning fault based on limited exposure can come off as unfair and dismissive. I don’t have any interest in going back and forth over personal jabs, but I’ll leave you with this thought: sometimes we don't notice the level of cultural saturation not because we're immune to it, but because our standards have quietly adapted to it.

 

[partinobodycular]

Assigning fault based on limited exposure can come off as unfair and dismissive.

You're absolutely right it can come off as unfair, I'm just saying that from my experience there's a reason why someone is seeing what they're seeing.

but I’ll leave you with this thought: sometimes we don't notice the level of cultural saturation not because we're immune to it, but because our standards have quietly adapted to it.

Question, is that a good thing or a bad thing? And if I don't find certain things to be offensive, to the point that I don't even see them, much like you don't notice when a woman isn't wearing a burqa, then why should your standards take precedence over mine?

Are we to impose the standards of the few upon the many, or even the many upon the few, simply because someone is overly sensitive to something?

How are we to navigate this new paradigm of moral standards without imposing one person's standards onto everybody else?

I'm not insensitive to the problem, but from my perspective sexual hypersensitivity is a personal problem, not a social depravity problem. Although I can see how preying upon such a sensitivity could be a form of immoral behavior, just like preying upon any disability would be.

As to the OP, I just don't see that the OP is anything more than a personal perspective.

 

[com7fy8]

Is it wrong to be disgusted with how overly sexual this world has become?

Well, God is displeased with wrong sexual stuff . . . including fornication. I do not mean to pick on gays. Heteros can be wrong. And we all were born in sin; so I offer that even straight Christian couples can still need correction concerning their sexual activity.

What are ya trying to imply here?
Are ya trying to tell me something?

I know you did not ask this to me. But > what do I mean for people who have trusted in Jesus and believe the Bible is God's word?

I myself have been quite self-righteous against gays and atheists and their ways. And Jesus possibly was much more disgusted with self-righteous religious people, like me, than with ones not God's way sexually.

So, I need to evaluate my own self, first, in any case.

By the way - - to my knowledge, you have started this discussion where non-Christians are welcome to join in. And so ones can have a very different perspective than you do, that they are coming from. Plus we have ones who are from around the world, and these might not write and understand English as well as you. And ones could be writing under the influence of their drinking and drugs. And I suspect we have people who just want to practice their debating skills, and they will say anything to get someone to give them a go with a challenge; and Christians might be determined to work hard to show they are right, and therefore the debate can keep one's game going a while with a believer.

So - - about your concern about rape fantasies > yeah, I feel that is a problem. However, we need to be careful how we invest our attention. Others can give their attention too much to sexual stuff and totally miss love, in the process; be careful that they do not get *your* attention overly involved with their problems.

First make sure our attention is with God so He is guiding our attention. This way, we are feeding on all the good of God and His word and sharing with one another as His family in Jesus. With this we have established the good example waiting for anyone who leaves any sexual or other wrong stuff. And with God we can be efficient in how we deal with wrong things of this world.

We need to not get so involved with exposing evil, therefore, that we get isolated from God and from sharing with our people who are good examples of all that is good.

In my self-righteous criticizing I was isolated and congratulating myself. But I had people who were good examples of how I needed to become sensitive and attentive and submissive to God and personal and feeling with people.

So, make sure you are mainly into what Jesus says to seek first.