Have Americans tired of Democracy?

[stevil]

America is s Republic not a democracy.

That's like saying this is an apple not a fruit.
The United States of America is a Democratic Republic, a democracy.

 

[soldier of light]

That's like saying this is an apple not a fruit.
The United States of America is a Democratic Republic, a democracy.

Either way we are commanded to be separate from the world and to seek the kingdom not america.

 

[Pommer]

When an ideology tells you, "Everything else is a lie, listen only to us," that's not a valid tool. That's what cults do.

I get that it’s positing that changing the questions we ask when we ask ourselves* like, “why is the current political situation like it is?”, there’s going to be a lot of reasons, we will argue over “what to do” like we always have done. This is what politics is, keeping your nation together even though we fight constantly.

Reframing what we know as “reality” should be a constant chore, albeit a pleasant one, if one wants it to be.



*let’s limit this to scholars for now?

 

[Pommer]

That's not what Critical Theory does. Critical Theory merely tosses out history as false and creates its own narrative.

If it fits known facts better than “history” why is that “bad”?

 

[Pommer]

Either way we are commanded to be separate from the world and to seek the kingdom not america.

You’re new here, hi, and welcome!
I’m sure that we will have many pleasant encounters on these forums!
Did you know that if you tick the little gray circle under an avatar you can check each poster’s general info.

 

[soldier of light]

You’re new here, hi, and welcome!
I’m sure that we will have many pleasant encounters on these forums!
Did you know that if you tick the little gray circle under an avatar you can check each poster’s general info.

Yes I knew. Thank you

 

[7thKeeper]

The basis of CRT is that white people can never be anything other than oppressors, and that any and every system, history, or concept invented by white people is a tool of oppression. That's why math and punctuality are racist.

Can you show me where this is claimed in CRT? And I do not mean that you link to me to sources where people say that CRT says this/is it's basis, but an actual source.

 

[Reneep]

True history is not nor told, but Africans and their cousins the and other children of Ham like the cannaites were the first to use race theories and slavery...think how ranciest the Egyptians were. AND every race has its own version since then it is that just now because God chose the Fathers and the mothers to bless, and to protect , BUT WHITE DIDNT START THE RACISM AND STILL IS THE ONLY RACE THAT TRIED TO EXIT THE BUSINESS AND MADE IT ILLEGAL TO BE RACIEST, AND THE ONLY ONES TO END SLAVERY! it looks like the whites did it CRT IS A RETURN TO MORE RACE WARS AND MORE DEATHING ,

GOD PROTECTED THE USA , AND WILL TO GIVE IT AS A GIFT TOO ALICIONE REV 7 WOMAN AND HER CHILDREN THAT THE DRAGON WANTS TO KILL ONCE SHE IS PROTECTED.. MAN THAT SUCKER WANTS TO ki KILL EVERY One , TO KILL EVERY COLOR AND 100 % OF HAMANITY. AND EVEN HUMANITY WANTS TO KILL 95% of humanity" to save the earth " , so when Father has to kill 30% who are demonic possessed and want to kill 100 % HUMANITY and then those demons go into the 60 % remaining , and God kills about 30% of the ones who are trying to kill 95 % of humanity , and has to do it one more time until the about 37% of the world will remain. And if God doesn't do that act of mercy , (. then death will rid them of their demons, and at that point that is near the only hope they have coming ) or not one man would remain. Not one . JESUS SAID IF Father doesn't end it early not one human would remain.

But the 37 % were the ones who humbled themselves and refused to except the lies of filthy Men and the lying spirits of pride and then who refuse to rise up against anyone specially Jesus , will be saved ( not to heaven / no more like not Fathers kingdom or Sons kingdom but will be saved to the Alicione / holy spirit and Israel kingdom third kingdom or to just remain in this dying worlds kingdom which is the 4th kingdom. , and truth is most of those who refuse to rise up will be those tribal people who most Athiest use as strawman, they will be protected from the super nova of our dying sun .

, because it is and will be because their real ancient traditions were From Jobs family. And eye for an eye and ancient kind of veiw of a world veiw that's is kind of like " don't do to others what you dont want done to you ! because when you do a sin to someone ,you release it to the world , it will grow meaner and come back around. They won't rise up. They were the people of " brotherly love" and the bull nations who made covenants of brotherly love until Menes inslaved all mankind of every color. Because what goes around came back around.
EGYPT AND THEIR COUSINS STARTED SLAVERY AND WHY FATHER CURSED THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE .. FATHER HATES SLAVERY AND CURSED IT. AND EVERY NATION WHO SUPPORTS IT NOW IS UNDER HIS CURSE , AND WE ARE CURSED BECAUSE OF CHILD SLAVERY AND CHILD SEX TRADE AND ABORTION .. AND THOSE WHO SUPORT THOSE SINS WILL CURSE ISRAEL ALSO AND IT HAS IT OWN REWARD. YET ANOTHER CURSE.

SO HUMANITY HAS NO IDEA YET ALL THE WAYS THEY ALL NEED TO BE SAVED. STARTING WITH THE DEMONS IN THEIR MIND HEART AND SOUL. PRAY THE PRAYER OF REV 3. PRAY IT , THEN FOLLOW JESUS THROUGH THE CLEANSING AND PURIFING SO HE CAN PROTECT YOU AND PRESENT YOU TO THE FATHER, OR HE CANT PROTECT YOU.

 

[RDKirk]

Can you show me where this is claimed in CRT? And I do not mean that you link to me to sources where people say that CRT says this/is it's basis, but an actual source.

Race, Racism and American Law by Derrick Bell.
Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings That Formed the Movement by Kimberlé Crenshaw

Also, read up on the basics of Critical Theory and the Frankfurt School from any number of sources.

 

[7thKeeper]

Race, Racism and American Law by Derrick Bell.
Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings That Formed the Movement by Kimberlé Crenshaw

Also, read up on the basics of Critical Theory and the Frankfurt School from any number of sources.

So these are the source(s) or just books that talk about CRT? The second seems to be a secondary source based on name, but thank you.

Edit:
And since you seem to know your sources, can you point out one where they specifically say that: "white people can never be anything other than oppressors, and that any and every system, history, or concept invented by white people is a tool of oppression"?
Because let's face it, you are otherwise just leading a wild goose chase for a goose that probably doesn't exists.

 

[Aaron112]

And since you seem to know your sources, can you point out one where they specifically say that: "white people can never be anything other than oppressors, and that any and every system, history, or concept invented by white people is a tool of oppression"?
Because let's face it, you are otherwise just leading a wild goose chase for a goose that probably doesn't exists.

History over the last few centuries shows that white men/white governing/actions,
has destroyed many souls, wiped out many peoples, many species of animals worldwide on land, in sea and in air; not producing much of anything helpful except temporary deceptions to trick the world ..... it is not good what has happened, no, not good for people's souls, nor for crops, nor for the soil of the usa/ planet .....

Oh, it may well not be only whites..... so what ?

 

[RDKirk]

So these are the source(s) or just books that talk about CRT? The second seems to be a secondary source based on name, but thank you.

Edit:
And since you seem to know your sources, can you point out one where they specifically say that: "white people can never be anything other than oppressors, and that any and every system, history, or concept invented by white people is a tool of oppression"?
Because let's face it, you are otherwise just leading a wild goose chase for a goose that probably doesn't exists.

You expect that actual quote to appear somewhere?

Read the books.

 

[Reneep]

History over the last few centuries shows that white men/white governing/actions,
has destroyed many souls, wiped out many peoples, many species of animals worldwide on land, in sea and in air; not producing much of anything helpful except temporary deceptions to trick the world ..... it is not good what has happened, no, not good for people's souls, nor for crops, nor for the soil of the usa/ planet .....

Oh, it may well not be only whites..... so what ?

It would be as sad if people knew who was really what race they are , I personally will let the Lord of creation tells me what I and my ancestors have Lost or had stolen, in the mean time, BECAUCE no one in this life will know by LOOKING AT ME OR DNA TESTING me what race i am AND WHAT I AND MY ANCESTORS HAVE LOST OR HAD STOLEN . SO ALL OF IT IS GARBAGE AND PURE EVIL JESUS WILL REWARD US BY HIS KNOWLEDGE OF EACH OF OUR INHERITANCES AND WHAT WE HAVE HAD STOLEN . BUT ONLY HE KNOWS AND IT WILL BE YOUR LOSE IF YOU DO NOT WAIT FOR HIM TO REWARD.

HE SHOWED ME BY EXAMPLE ^^^ BECAUSE OF ALL THE THINGS I HAVE HAD STOLEN IN THIS LIFE TIME, NOT COUNTING WHAT MY ANCESTORS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PASS TO ME BUT COULDN'T BECAUSE IT WAS STOLEN BY THEM AND THEIR THOSE WHO WISH TO TAKE MORE. I HAD TWO INHERITANCES STOLEN FROM ME BY MY OWN FAMILY. SO JESUS GAVE ME A SPECIAL GIFT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THOSE THEFTS AND FOR THE NEXT AGE. A REALLY AWESOME REWARD AS I TRY VERY HARD TO FORGIVE , OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

BECAUSE THE GIFT HE WILL GIVE ME IS SO MUCH GREATER THAN ANYTHING I HAVE LOST OVER AND OVER AND MANY TIMES GREATER THAN ANYTHING MY ANCESTORS LOST OVER AND OVER. IT IS A GIFT WHERE I CAN MAKE MYSELF AND MY ANCESTORS RICH AS THEY WANT TO BE OR NEED TO BE. AND CAN use THAT Gift FOR ANYONE I WANT TO USE IT FOR.

TRUST ME WHEN I SAY EVERYONE WORK ON FORGIVING AND LET OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN REWARD YOU AND GIVE YOU YOUR OWN INHERITANCE THAT HE PLANNED FOR YOU SINCE BEFORE TIME. SO LIKE SCRIPTURE HINTS AT , JUST LET THEM STEAL IT AND FATHER WILL GIVE YOU 100 TIMES, THATS HIS PROMISES. JUST WAIT FOR HIS PLAN NOT YOURS !

 

[Pommer]

It would be as sad if people knew who was really what race they are , I personally will let the Lord of creation tells me what I and my ancestors have Lost or had stolen, in the mean time, BECAUCE no one in this life will know by LOOKING AT ME OR DNA TESTING me what race i am AND WHAT I AND MY ANCESTORS HAVE LOST OR HAD STOLEN . SO ALL OF IT IS GARBAGE AND PURE EVIL JESUS WILL REWARD US BY HIS KNOWLEDGE OF EACH OF OUR INHERITANCES AND WHAT WE HAVE HAD STOLEN . BUT ONLY HE KNOWS AND IT WILL BE YOUR LOSE IF YOU DO NOT WAIT FOR HIM TO REWARD.

HE SHOWED ME BY EXAMPLE ^^^ BECAUSE OF ALL THE THINGS I HAVE HAD STOLEN IN THIS LIFE TIME, NOT COUNTING WHAT MY ANCESTORS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PASS TO ME BUT COULDN'T BECAUSE IT WAS STOLEN BY THEM AND THEIR THOSE WHO WISH TO TAKE MORE. I HAD TWO INHERITANCES STOLEN FROM ME BY MY OWN FAMILY. SO JESUS GAVE ME A SPECIAL GIFT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THOSE THEFTS AND FOR THE NEXT AGE. A REALLY AWESOME REWARD AS I TRY VERY HARD TO FORGIVE , OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

BECAUSE THE GIFT HE WILL GIVE ME IS SO MUCH GREATER THAN ANYTHING I HAVE LOST OVER AND OVER AND MANY TIMES GREATER THAN ANYTHING MY ANCESTORS LOST OVER AND OVER. IT IS A GIFT WHERE I CAN MAKE MYSELF AND MY ANCESTORS RICH AS THEY WANT TO BE OR NEED TO BE. AND CAN use THAT Gift FOR ANYONE I WANT TO USE IT FOR.

TRUST ME WHEN I SAY EVERYONE WORK ON FORGIVING AND LET OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN REWARD YOU AND GIVE YOU YOUR OWN INHERITANCE THAT HE PLANNED FOR YOU SINCE BEFORE TIME. SO LIKE SCRIPTURE HINTS AT , JUST LET THEM STEAL IT AND FATHER WILL GIVE YOU 100 TIMES, THATS HIS PROMISES. JUST WAIT FOR HIS PLAN NOT YOURS !

Choose whichever posting style you like, but I tend to gloss over those written thusly.

 

[7thKeeper]

You expect that actual quote to appear somewhere?

Read the books.

Yes, that is what "CRT says this" would mean. That the theory would say that somewhere. Otherwise this sounds like your and other peoples faulty interpretation.

 

[RDKirk]

Yes, that is what "CRT says this" would mean. That the theory would say that somewhere. Otherwise this sounds like your and other peoples faulty interpretation.

If you suspect someone else's interpretation is faulty, then examine the source yourself. Otherwise you have nothing to speak from but ignorance.

Read the books.

 

[rambot]

Either way we are commanded to be separate from the world and to seek the kingdom not america.

So you choose a leader who has literally no interest in the kingdom and could not take his eyes off owning the entire world if he tried.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

If you suspect someone else's interpretation is faulty, then examine the source yourself. Otherwise you have nothing to speak from but ignorance.

Read the books.

It's a two-way street. There can't be a discussion about your interpretation without knowing the basis for it.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

That's like saying this is an apple not a fruit.
The United States of America is a Democratic Republic, a democracy.

The main idea is that it is not an empire with an emperor nor a monarchy with a king., at least up until now.

 

[7thKeeper]

If you suspect someone else's interpretation is faulty, then examine the source yourself. Otherwise you have nothing to speak from but ignorance.

Read the books.

So you've got nothing to back that interpretation. Because every time I hear that one, it's always a person who describes themselves as either right-wing or conservative. But no one who I've seen talk for CRT so far has made that kind of a claim. So it seems to be that you're just making a strawman to prance about. No worries, I will be checking those books, but judging by your avoidance of pointing out anything specific where that kind of a claim, I doubt I will discover much.