God's Tears

[CoreyD]

When tears flowed.
And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it. Luke 19:41

Why the tears flowed.

For the days will come upon you when your enemies will barricade you and surround you and hem you in on every side.
They will level you to the ground - you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of your visitation from God.”
Luke 19:43, 44

Why does Jesus weep at the scene he foresees, of wayward Jews being slayed, along with their children?
Jesus says, they brought it on themselves, yet, Jesus wept.... Literally shed tears, at the destruction these ones would suffered.
Why?

What does this tell us about God's feelings - his pain of heart over those who suffer... even wayward ones?

 

[Tinker Grey]

Off topic for this sub-forum.

 

[CoreyD]

Off topic for this sub-forum.

How so, since it involves morality and ethics?

 

[Tinker Grey]

How so, since it involves morality and ethics?

Nah. It's just preaching.

 

[CoreyD]

Nah. It's just preaching.

That's a strong opinion you have.
No doubt you feel just as strong that you are right.
I think you are harassing me.

 

[Jermayn]

When tears flowed.
And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it. Luke 19:41

Why the tears flowed.

For the days will come upon you when your enemies will barricade you and surround you and hem you in on every side.
They will level you to the ground - you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of your visitation from God.”
Luke 19:43, 44

Why does Jesus weep at the scene he foresees, of wayward Jews being slayed, along with their children?
Jesus says, they brought it on themselves, yet, Jesus wept.... Literally shed tears, at the destruction these ones would suffered.
Why?

What does this tell us about God's feelings - his pain of heart over those who suffer... even wayward ones?

Rather than portraying God as harsh or indifferent, this verse emphasizes His longsuffering nature and the genuine grief He has over the lost.

 

[JEBofChristTheLord]

Rather than portraying God as harsh or indifferent, this verse emphasizes His longsuffering nature and the genuine grief He has over the lost.

And the doomed.

 

[CoreyD]

Rather than portraying God as harsh or indifferent, this verse emphasizes His longsuffering nature and the genuine grief He has over the lost.

Yes. It also highlights the fact that God does not like nor enjoy seeing people suffer, no matter how indifferent they are.
God obviously loves people exceedingly, to the point where their pain hurts him.
I can just imagine what that would have meant when God flooded the earth.

 

[Desk trauma]

What would it say about the character of someone with the ability to remedy suffering who sits down and cries about it instead?

 

[CoreyD]

What would it say about the character of someone with the ability to remedy suffering who sits down and cries about it instead?

That's a good question, which can be answered in one sentence, but would not in my opinion be a satisfactory answer, since not everyone is aware of the details involved in why there is suffering.

What I will do, is give you the one liner, and then I will give you the details in a single nutshell.
Both are brief.

One liner...
God allows persons to exercise free will, and does not force anyone against their will.

Details in a nutshell...
God has a remedy for suffering, which is not a snap of the finger magic portion, but an arrangement that involves solving every issue related to the reason for suffering, whereas it can never ever happen again. It's... we can say, the remedy for the cause of suffering itself, and the antidote, to prevent it ever surfacing.
The exercising of free will requires that this issue be addressed, so that one can exercise free will, exclusive of suffering for anyone... including those who hate God.

I hope either of those are clear.
If not, feel free to inquire further.
It's a very good question.

 

[Desk trauma]

That's a good question, which can be answered in one sentence, but would not in my opinion be a satisfactory answer, since not everyone is aware of the details involved in why there is suffering.

What I will do, is give you the one liner, and then I will give you the details in a single nutshell.
Both are brief.

One liner...
God allows persons to exercise free will, and does not force anyone against their will.

Details in a nutshell...
God has a remedy for suffering, which is not a snap of the finger magic portion, but an arrangement that involves solving every issue related to the reason for suffering, whereas it can never ever happen again. It's... we can say, the remedy for the cause of suffering itself, and the antidote, to prevent it ever surfacing.
The exercising of free will requires that this issue be addressed, so that one can exercise free will, exclusive of suffering for anyone... including those who hate God.

I hope either of those are clear.
If not, feel free to inquire further.
It's a very good question.

Yeah, that’s the blather I expected.

 

[CoreyD]

What would it say about the character of someone with the ability to remedy suffering who sits down and cries about it instead?

I remember reading this article...
The 3 Parts of Empathy: Thoughts, Feelings and Actions

Interestingly, all three of these apply to God's character.
Obviously, far more than we can ever begin to experience.

Your pain is God's pain, and God took action to remove your pain, even before you saw daylight.
That action, cost God the greatest pain anyone can experience.

God allowed his dearest, most beloved son to die for you and I, even though we did not know or love him.

But God proves His love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:8​

 

[CoreyD]

Yeah, that’s the blather I expected.

I expected this response or similar.
However, God has hope even for those who could not care less about the truth, as was seen from Jesus words, mentioned in the OP, and from Matthew 23:37

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God’s messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn’t let me.​

Even when they were murdering God's people, God still had hope for them, and wanted to gather them.

How great a love that is.
Do you care if your enemies, or murderers and child rapists eat?

 

[Desk trauma]

I expected this response or similar.

So we’re both wasting time, excellent.

 

[CoreyD]

Yeah, that’s the blather I expected.

What would be a satisfactory answer for you, other than what you want to hear, and why would that be the right answer?

 

[CoreyD]

So we’re both wasting time, excellent.

I'm not wasting time.
I'm sorry that you are though.
Why are you doing that?

 

[Desk trauma]

What would be a satisfactory answer for you, other than what you want to hear, and why would that be the right answer?

Still going?

 

[Desk trauma]

Why are you doing that?

Force of habit.

 

[CoreyD]

Still going?

Yeah. You are like most every human on the planet. Why should I not be "still going"?
When you go, there will be no need for me to be "still going", because there will be no opposing words to respond to.
I would then continue with someone else.

 

[Desk trauma]

Yeah. You are like most every human on the planet. Why should I not be "still going"?
When you go, there will be no need for me to be "still going", because there will be no opposing words to respond to.
I would then continue with someone else.

That must’ve sounded clever to you.