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"End Racism" Removed from Superbowl Stadium End Zones--so as not to 'offend' President Trump

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I'm curious why people are so upset about the end zone messaging change. The message that replaced it is "CHOOSE LOVE". What is so bad about that message? The difference is, "CHOOSE LOVE" isn't limited to just racism. However, one cannot simultaneously be racist and "choose love", so don't the slogans basically promote the same message, albeit much more broadly now?
 
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I can say a lot of progress has been made in my lifetime.

And no matter how many signs we put up, a racist will always be a racist. The non-racist doesn't need to see it they are preaching to the choir.

Reminds me of the mantras "War on Drugs" or "War on terror" As we've seen we are chasing an everlasting carrot because there will always be drugs and terrorism along with racism in the world. I honestly wish the racism toward whites would stop.

Do you believe that a murderer will always remain a murderer, or that a thief will always be a thief? If so, should we refrain from discussing the importance of not committing crimes with those who have not yet committed any?
 
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Both sides acknowledge the existence of racism. If conservatives believe that the methods proposed by the left to address racism will not result in significant changes, then they should propose solutions that they believe will have a meaningful impact.

However, ignoring the issue or criticizing the left for discussing racism is not an appropriate approach. This only demonstrates that conservatives have no interest in addressing racism but rather use the topic to their advantage.
It's called moving on. What if the US constantly brought up Japan attacking Pearl Harbor, and Japan constantly brought up the US nuking them? Or if everyone constantly brought up Germany once being a Nazi country? Would there have been any healing? Any progress? Any putting that behind us and moving on? Of course not.
 
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Do you believe that a murderer will always remain a murderer, or that a thief will always be a thief?
Or a drug attack as myself of course not. A sign won't change someone's heart just like the sign "don't use drugs" didn't change mine, It took Almighty God to change this stubborn person.
If so, should we refrain from discussing the importance of not committing crimes with those who have not yet committed any?
Was I discussing crimes with you? I would add that being a racist is not a crime it's the acts they perform that are.
 
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It's called moving on. What if the US constantly brought up Japan attacking Pearl Harbor, and Japan constantly brought up the US nuking them? Or if everyone constantly brought up Germany once being a Nazi country? Would there have been any healing? Any progress? Any putting that behind us and moving on? Of course not.

Of course, you want to move on and not discuss it because it doesn't affect your daily life. But for others, it does; for them, it is not something they can move on from.


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but sure you want to move on.
 
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Or a drug attack as myself of course not. A sign won't change someone's heart just like the sign "don't use drugs" didn't change mine, It took Almighty God to change this stubborn person.

Was I discussing crimes with you? I would add that being a racist is not a crime it's the acts they perform that are.

Let's hear your side. You say talking about racism won't bring change and that putting up signs won't help. I understand; you think these methods are ineffective. What do you believe is needed to reduce prejudice in our society?
 
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Constantly bringing up racism isn't going to make it go away. It just perpetuates it.
Calling white people racist because they were guilty of being born white doesn't help either. The hypocritical irony is amazing.
 
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What do you believe is needed to reduce prejudice in our society?
It took God for me to accept all people but my way isn't everyone's so I can say I don't know but prayer.
 
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Of course, you want to move on and not discuss it because it doesn't affect your daily life. But for others, it does; for them, it is not something they can move on from.


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  • Immigrants with limited English proficiency report a wide range of challenges. Among immigrants with limited English proficiency, about half (53%) say it has made it hard for them to get health care services; receive services in stores or restaurants; get or keep a job; apply for government financial help with food, housing, or health coverage; and/or report a crime or get help from the police. Working immigrants with limited English proficiency also are more likely to report workplace discrimination compared to those who speak English very well (55% vs. 41%).

but sure you want to move on.
Most of the anti-asian hate is coming from Black Americans, not white people.
 
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Most of the anti-asian hate is coming from Black Americans, not white people.
Some Hispanics don't like whites or blacks. We can't forget that a lot of Muslims hate everyone in the West, hate for Israel, hate for presidential administrations and parties, and yes hate of a racist.
 
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It took God for me to accept all people but my way isn't everyone's so I can say I don't know but prayer.

As a Christian, I wholeheartedly agree. There is nothing that cannot be resolved through prayer. We all should pray.

Returning to the current issue, it seems unproductive to criticize those who are actively seeking solutions when no alternative is being offered.
 
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Returning to the current issue, it seems unproductive to criticize those who are actively seeking solutions when no alternative is being offered.
If I criticized you forgive me but my conversation was on the need for the sign.
 
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Of course, you want to move on and not discuss it because it doesn't affect your daily life. But for others, it does; for them, it is not something they can move on from.


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  • Immigrants with limited English proficiency report a wide range of challenges. Among immigrants with limited English proficiency, about half (53%) say it has made it hard for them to get health care services; receive services in stores or restaurants; get or keep a job; apply for government financial help with food, housing, or health coverage; and/or report a crime or get help from the police. Working immigrants with limited English proficiency also are more likely to report workplace discrimination compared to those who speak English very well (55% vs. 41%).

but sure you want to move on.
And what do you want to do instead? Move back? Move towards? Go in circles?
 
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I'm curious why people are so upset about the end zone messaging change. The message that replaced it is "CHOOSE LOVE". What is so bad about that message? The difference is, "CHOOSE LOVE" isn't limited to just racism. However, one cannot simultaneously be racist and "choose love", so don't the slogans basically promote the same message, albeit much more broadly now?
And there it is in a nutshell. Thank you. :thumbsup:
 
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I'm curious why people are so upset about the end zone messaging change. The message that replaced it is "CHOOSE LOVE". What is so bad about that message? The difference is, "CHOOSE LOVE" isn't limited to just racism. However, one cannot simultaneously be racist and "choose love", so don't the slogans basically promote the same message, albeit much more broadly now?
It's no good because it's not divisive.
 
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I don't disagree with your assessment. Does that mean we move on?
It means that if we are serious about addressing the racism problem in this country, we need to start reversing the last 5 years of DEI, CRT, and BLM nonsense that was intended for Democrats to divide and conquer the country. Go back to a time where people were judged by their character, not their skin color. It is to recognize that unity is our strength, not diversity.
 
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It took God for me to accept all people but my way isn't everyone's so I can say I don't know but prayer.
I understand that you are criticizing the sign. However, my question is: what is your alternative solution?
Prayer and maybe put yourself in Jesus's shoes when looking at his creation and loving his creation and that includes whites. I don't think there is a secular way maybe only in crisis, we tend to forget of racism if there is an emergency keeping us distracted.

The media also divides look at all the headlines White man this, black man that. Why do we need color involved it's divisive and racist.
 
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