More Democratic lawmakers are visiting El Salvador on Abrego Garcia’s behalf

[Valletta]

More Democratic lawmakers are visiting El Salvador on Abrego Garcia's behalf - Breitbart

Four House Democrats are visiting El Salvador in a bid to support Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a man whom the Trump administration deported to a notorious

www.breitbart.com

Your taxpayer dollars at work.

 

[Canuckster]

The long established criminal "deep state" is continuing to expose itself. They seem to have unusually special interests in this particular illegal alien out of all the 1000s of illegals that have been deported so far. They certainly could have found a more suitable poster-child for their cause.

 

[Valletta]

The long established criminal "deep state" is continuing to expose itself. They seem to have unusually special interests in this particular illegal alien out of all the 1000s of illegals that have been deported so far. They certainly could have found a more suitable poster-child for their cause.

The wife beating and human trafficking does not get a lot of sympathy outside of hard core liberals.

 

[PloverWing]

Your taxpayer dollars at work.

Yes indeed. Members of Congress defending the principle of due process. Good.

If Mr. Abrego Garcia is convicted of a crime in a proper jury trial, then I am content for him to have the penalty prescribed by the law he is convicted of breaking.

If he has not been convicted of a crime, then a) we are doing him an injustice and b) it sets a terrible precedent. Could I be the next one sent to a Salvadoran prison without being convicted of any crime? Could you?

 

[Valletta]

Yes indeed. Members of Congress defending the principle of due process. Good.

If Mr. Abrego Garcia is convicted of a crime in a proper jury trial, then I am content for him to have the penalty prescribed by the law he is convicted of breaking.

If he has not been convicted of a crime, then a) we are doing him an injustice and b) it sets a terrible precedent. Could I be the next one sent to a Salvadoran prison without being convicted of any crime? Could you?

If you are not a citizen and are a member of a designated terrorist group, yes. We live in reality.

 

[PloverWing]

If you are not a citizen and are a member of a designated terrorist group, yes. We live in reality.

Citizen? Yes. My ancestors arrived on the Mayflower.

How do you propose to determine whether I'm a member of a designated terrorist group? If not trial by jury, then what?

 

[sanderabeer]

Your taxpayer dollars at work.

Due process is more important than my tax dollars.

 

[Valletta]

Citizen? Yes. My ancestors arrived on the Mayflower.

How do you propose to determine whether I'm a member of a designated terrorist group? If not trial by jury, then what?

I don't, that's not my job. We elect a president who is in charge of the executive branch that makes the decision as to who is a terrorist. There were prisoners detained through the Obama and Biden presidencies, such as Zayn al-Abidin Muhammad Husayn, who have had no trial by jury for more than two decades. Why the demands now that Trump is in office? Do you think Garcia should get a trial by jury ahead of Husayn?

 

[Yarddog]

More Democratic lawmakers are visiting El Salvador on Abrego Garcia's behalf - Breitbart

Four House Democrats are visiting El Salvador in a bid to support Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a man whom the Trump administration deported to a notorious

www.breitbart.com

Your taxpayer dollars at work.

Great! It's about time they did something meaningful. Far better than the money Trump is paying them to illegally house the prisoners.

 

[Yarddog]

The long established criminal "deep state" is continuing to expose itself. They seem to have unusually special interests in this particular illegal alien out of all the 1000s of illegals that have been deported so far. They certainly could have found a more suitable poster-child for their cause.

The deep state is now run by Trump and his billionaire buddies. They are trying to overthrow the US Constitution and supplant their authoritarian government.

 

[PloverWing]

I don't, that's not my job. We elect a president who is in charge of the executive branch that makes the decision as to who is a terrorist.

We should be having juries of our peers deciding who is/is not a terrorist.

There were prisoners detained through the Obama and Biden presidencies, such as Zayn al-Abidin Muhammad Husayn, who have had no trial by jury for more than two decades. Why the demands now that Trump is in office? Do you think Garcia should get a trial by jury ahead of Husayn?

The prison in Guantánamo, in which the US is holding prisoners without trial, is shameful. I haven't forgotten. One of my disappointments in the Obama presidency is that President Obama didn't manage to persuade Congress to close the Guantánamo prison.

That's not an excuse for rounding up even more people now and imprisoning them without trial.

 

[ozso]

We should be having juries of our peers deciding who is/is not a terrorist.



The prison in Guantánamo, in which the US is holding prisoners without trial, is shameful. I haven't forgotten. One of my disappointments in the Obama presidency is that President Obama didn't manage to persuade Congress to close the Guantánamo prison.

That's not an excuse for rounding up even more people now and imprisoning them without trial.

Why wasn't there an outcry from Democrats for them? Why weren't they condemning Obama and Biden over it?

 

[PloverWing]

Why wasn't there an outcry from Democrats for them? Why weren't they condemning Obama and Biden over it?

Because Democrats are sinners too, and Democrats make mistakes too. There was, sadly, bipartisan support in Congress for the Iraq war and for the imprisonments without jury trial in Guantánamo. There has been some opposition in Congress, from both Democrats and Republicans, over the last two decades, but not enough to completely close the prison. And, of course, there have been objections all along from groups like Amnesty International.

 

[Valletta]

The deep state is now run by Trump and his billionaire buddies. They are trying to overthrow the US Constitution and supplant their authoritarian government.

Trump is the biggest threat to the deep state.

 

[Yarddog]

Trump is the biggest threat to the deep state.

No, he leads the deep state. He is what you've always feared but you just can't comprehend it.

 

[Jermayn]

The long established criminal "deep state" is continuing to expose itself. They seem to have unusually special interests in this particular illegal alien out of all the 1000s of illegals that have been deported so far. They certainly could have found a more suitable poster-child for their cause.

The way things are going on the left after the last elections, I think they are willing to try anything to stop the implosion.

 

[Vambram]

Deported El Salvadoran stopped in car owned by alien who pleaded guilty to human smuggling charges

The owner of the car in which Kilmar Abrego Garcia was stopped by police is Jose Ramon Hernandez Reyes, who pleaded guilty to smuggling illegal aliens into the United States in 2020, two years before Garcia's deportation. Reyes himself was deported after the guilty plea and returned to the...

justthenews.com

This article dives into the real facts about Kilmo Abrego Garcia, a citizen of El Salvador.

 

[jacks]

Deported El Salvadoran stopped in car owned by alien who pleaded guilty to human smuggling charges

The owner of the car in which Kilmar Abrego Garcia was stopped by police is Jose Ramon Hernandez Reyes, who pleaded guilty to smuggling illegal aliens into the United States in 2020, two years before Garcia's deportation. Reyes himself was deported after the guilty plea and returned to the...

justthenews.com

This article dives into the real facts about Kilmo Abrego Garcia, a citizen of El Salvador.

...and it don't look good.

 

[PloverWing]

Deported El Salvadoran stopped in car owned by alien who pleaded guilty to human smuggling charges

The owner of the car in which Kilmar Abrego Garcia was stopped by police is Jose Ramon Hernandez Reyes, who pleaded guilty to smuggling illegal aliens into the United States in 2020, two years before Garcia's deportation. Reyes himself was deported after the guilty plea and returned to the...

justthenews.com

This article dives into the real facts about Kilmo Abrego Garcia, a citizen of El Salvador.

If the prosecution can turn "suspect", "possibly", and "unable to confirm" into evidence that convinces a jury beyond a reasonable doubt, then the penalties of the law can apply.

 

[Vambram]

If the prosecution can turn "suspect", "possibly", and "unable to confirm" into evidence that convinces a jury beyond a reasonable doubt, then the penalties of the law can apply.

Illegal immigrants ain't legally entitled to the exact same due process as are legal residents and citizens of the USA.