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Trump voters, are you happy now?

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doubtingmerle

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I have. I just don't trust CNN. For my own reasons.
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Its all over the news: "Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney on Thursday said the 'old relationship' with the United States 'is over' ". That quote comes from this source: https://www.foxnews.com/world/canadian-pm-carney-old-relationship-us-over-tension-trump-tariffs?msockid=35aac4e8410c625a0d1dd16c400b637f . Do you not trust that source either?

We are talking about the actual words that Mark Carney said. The speech is readily available on the Internet (e. g.,
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Canada was our best friend. We worked closely with them on so many things. And now, according to Prime Minister Mark Carney, that relationship is over.

And there is no question that is the direct result of Trump's bullying. It's not hard to figure out. If you choose to bully all your friends, you will soon have no friends.

Here is how the world reacted to Trump's tariffs.

The European Union said it was "let down by our oldest ally." Australia said it was "not the act of a friend." China urged Washington to reconsider − and vowed it would retaliate if it didn't. (Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/world-leaders-react-trumps-global-tariffs-2025-04-02/)​
So, no, it is not an empty assertion to say that other countries don't want to hang around with America anymore.
 
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"Canada will have to 'dramatically reduce' its reliance on the United States as the two countries".

Yes. That was the point! Canada, stop acting like an entitled teenage brat who disrespects their parents. Now the parent (United States) is telling Canada to get off the couch and get a job because Santa Clause is dead.
What evidence do you have that Canada acted like an entitled teenage brat who needs to get off the couch?

Americans have been going through some tough times. I understand. The whole world is having some tough times. But striking out in hatred of other people and calling them Unhumans is not the solution. We are all humans. We are all in this together. Let's find a way to all work together to achieve the greatest good for everybody.
 
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Suffer a little now or a lot in a decade. Let's be sensible folk.
Why should we have to suffer at all?

How is it this administration, with its great deal maker president can’t make better trade deals without inflicting needless pain on the American people?
 
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We have had it good here because WE made it good.
We have it good here because we had a land with enormous natural wealth, because we ended up on top after other nations suffered more in WWII, and yes, because of our hard work. There were many factors involved.

In the process we have filled the atmosphere with carbon dioxide and have stripped the world of the cheapest sources of oil and minerals.

Having achieved that vast wealth using the common resources that had been available before we started, I see no problem in saying that it would be good to be generous and help other countries.

We've paid and given and supported countries around the world spending OUR money to help them and defend them. It is primarily Americans who have given their own money, time and aid to build hospitals and give care. We are the ones who often are first on scene to start aiding another country with aid after a natural disaster.
You have a problem with generosity?

I happen to be for generosity.

The USAID budget was less than 1% of the government budget and did immense good. It was terrible to demolish it.

So it's still in their beat interest to be involved with us and open their countries to us.

Even when we cut off the aid? Even when we shut down a warehouse with $500 million of food destined for starving children, leaving it rot in the warehouse? Even we fire the inspector that revealed that this food was being wasted due to the sudden shutdown of USAID? Even when we put punitive tariffs on third world countries? Even when we threaten to annex other countries?

If we act like bullies, don't be surprised if we lose friends.

And USAID wasn't shut down because we were helping starving people. It was shut down for wasting our money on ridiculous and stupid projects like transgender surgeries or Sesame Street. This agency was out of control.
Now we are going after Kermit the Frog? Oh my. Please watch Mr. Rogers convince this Republican congressman that Public Television was well worth a $20 million grant.

 
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Suffer a little now or a lot in a decade. Let's be sensible folk.
The overwhelming majority of investors think that, if we are concerned about the American economy in the future, we need to abandon Trump's tariff package. Do you agree with them? Are you arguing that we need to abandon the tariff package to avoid the suffering it will bring in the future?
 
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We don't NEED USAID. We never did...It's time for other countries to help pay for their own stuff and give a little back for all we've provided to our own detriment.
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Trump voters, your 401K just went down 10% in 2 days. Prices are about to go way up.

It was easy to see this would happen if you elected Trump. You did it anyway.

You happy now?
Transexuals are being banned from reading borderline explicit content to small children. I don't have to worry about men being in my daughter's gym shower or locker room. A mother's womb is starting to be swing toward becoming a little safer than an active war zone. I can have a differing opinion than a certain political group without being shunned from society. Why yes, I'm very happy.
 
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Still prefer him over Harris. I don't even want to think what our economy would look like if she won.
Given the complaints from conservatives that her policies were identical to Biden's, probably a lot like 2024 - low inflation, increasing stock prices, stable mortgage rates, decent unemployment numbers, and we still had trading partners who don't hate us.

Seems a lot better than what we're stuck with now.
 
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Transexuals are being banned from reading borderline explicit content to small children. I don't have to worry about men being in my daughter's gym shower or locker room. A mother's womb is starting to be swing toward becoming a little safer than an active war zone. I can have a differing opinion than a certain political group without being shunned from society. Why yes, I'm very happy.
It's great you're OK with putting these things ahead of economic stability for you and your family. I doubt a majority of voters will feel the same way.
 
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It's great you're OK with putting these things ahead of economic stability for you and your family. I doubt a majority of voters will feel the same way.
Look at you being so optimistic.
 
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It's great you're OK with putting these things ahead of economic stability for you and your family. I doubt a majority of voters will feel the same way.
We each follow our own convictions, and some things are more important than money.
 
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Transexuals are being banned from reading borderline explicit content to small children.
There were already laws against exposing small children to explicit sexual content. this: Harmful to Minors Laws

Why are you only concerned about transexuals reading explicit content to small children? Isn't it wrong, no matter who does it?
I don't have to worry about men being in my daughter's gym shower or locker room.
What about people with XY gonadal dysgenesis (XY gonadal dysgenesis - Wikipedia) who appear as female at birth, are assigned as females, but have male genetics? Where should they go in gym class?

What about people with XY genes (males) who undergo treatment so they become similar to those with XY gonadal dysgenesis? Where should they go in gym classs?

Is this a bigger concern to you compared with the global breakdown of financial markets, destruction of government, loss of status of the US in international affairs, innocent people sent to third world prisons without due process, and violent criminals released from prison?

A mother's womb is starting to be swing toward becoming a little safer than an active war zone.
For embryos that are not human beings any more than an acorn is an oak tree?
I can have a differing opinion than a certain political group without being shunned from society.

Have you even been watching the news? e.g.,



If freedom of speech is important to you, alas, I think you voted for the wrong person.
 
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What is it called when other countries put ridiculous tariffs on the United States? Free trade?
I call it "ridiculous tariffs".

Your point being?
 
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