Benny Hinn dating Paula White? Is this true?

[ARBITER01]

By the way , getting a divorce does not make it o.k. The divorce itself is a shameful thing . Adding innuendo and inapproriate behaviors in that context is inexcusable. Benny Hinn blew it . He should admit it and do the right thing. This nonsense of remaining in ministry is wrong. Once the divorce was announced , he should have stepped down then. Instead he arrogantly made a public statement that he would continue in ministry as though nothing had happened. His wife is divorcing him and they both continue on in full time ministry.

Well, divorce in marriage does not also automatically equal divorce from ministry somehow. There is noting in the bible about that.

 

[Yitzchak]

Well, divorce in marriage does not also automatically equal divorce from ministry somehow. There is noting in the bible about that.

It is awkward to comment about things that are self evident. It somehow lowers the dignity of the discussion. Do a bible study , if that is what you need. The truth is self evident. Even the world has the wisdom to discern this one.

 

[disciple-ofjesus]

I'm very disapointed. It would be nice to see someone take the high road for a change and actaully come clean and repent.
This silly notion that we should not look at man and so it does not matter is naive at best and dangerous thought at worst. Of course it matters.

Paul was not just having a rant when he wrote these type of passages found in Titus. He was led by the Holy Spirit to write these passages as scripture so that we would have instructions on proper Christian behavior. In this case , proper behavior of Christian leaders. If A Christian leader's behaviors were meant to eb just between themselves and G-d alone , these passages would have been written differently. Then these passages would have said that an elder has no behavioral requirements. They can do whatever they want , whenwever they want and no one should dare to judge them because they are men and cannot be trusted anyway.



Sorry to be blunt . But what utter nonsense and foolishness. Saying that all people fail and so we should not be able to hold anyone accountable to any standards of behavior is a wrong and dangerous mindset for the church to promote.

Christian leaders should be found trustworthy. If found to no longer be trustworthy , they should be removed from their office. It would be refreshing to see Christian leaders remove themselves in humility and true repentance and actually issue an apology to the Christian community.

By the way , getting a divorce does not make it o.k. The divorce itself is a shameful thing . Adding innuendo and inapproriate behaviors in that context is inexcusable. Benny Hinn blew it . He should admit it and do the right thing. This nonsense of remaining in ministry is wrong. Once the divorce was announced , he should have stepped down then. Instead he arrogantly made a public statement that he would continue in ministry as though nothing had happened. His wife is divorcing him and they both continue on in full time ministry.

This passage comes to mind....



Such utter selfish and childish behavior amongst church leaders and the church is in confusion on how to confront it. That is why the world is involved.

I have to say a hearty to this. VERY well said.

 

[ARBITER01]

It is awkward to comment about things that are self evident. It somehow lowers the dignity of the discussion. Do a bible study , if that is what you need. The truth is self evident. Even the world has the wisdom to discern this one.

Oh really?

Care to show us where in the written word that marital divorce commands a person to be dismissed from ministry?

By all means, show us.

 

[disciple-ofjesus]

why was it ok to demand that TB step down after his affair and not Benny Hinn? MAN! Talk about double standard. TB publically repented. I accept that, but still don't think he should be in the ministry quite yet.

 

[Yitzchak]

why was it ok to demand that TB step down after his affair and not Benny Hinn? MAN! Talk about double standard. TB publically repented. I accept that, but still don't think he should be in the ministry quite yet.

Some of the attacks agianst Todd Bentley were from people who really were attacking Lakeland. In one respect , this is favorable for Todd.....

Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Mat 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

I believe Todd will still have his reward. Too bad that he sullyed it with his public sins and mishandling of that situation. But despite his failures , he still stood up for Jesus and is being persectued for that.

If Todd Bentley would have been a punk rocker celebrity who made no claim to Christianity and did what he did , few would have even cared. Almost all of the persecution against him is for the sake of the gospel.

Before it is over, Benny will probably get in on the reward for persecution too.

 

[ARBITER01]

If a Christian has a true ministry in power from GOD, and their spouse decides to leave them by divorce, and there was no adultery involved with that Christian, I would not expect that Christian to step down from ministry.

If people are saying that the Christian is still commanded to anyways, then they need to present the scriptures that state such things.

 

[disciple-ofjesus]

it is just sad all around that this is happening and seemingly, its "ok". I wish they would all repent and turn to Jesus and be obedient.

 

[Yitzchak]

it is just sad all around that this is happening and seemingly, its "ok". I wish they would all repent and turn to Jesus and be obedient.

It would be refreshing... Once in a while I will watch a secualr movie where the main character does the heroic and honorable thing and I think it would be nice to see some of that being modeled by Church leadership in America instead of all these confusing the real issues and demanding their rights.
Keep praying. Perhaps G-d will raise some leaders up who will show some integrity. From what I know of it , Charles Stanley showed at least a measure of dignity when he had his marriage troubles.

 

[lismore]

Oh really?

Care to show us where in the written word that marital divorce commands a person to be dismissed from ministry?

By all means, show us.

Yitzak posted Titus 1:6 'the husband of one wife'.

 

[ARBITER01]

Yitzak posted Titus 1:6 'the husband of one wife'.

So,..... that scripture commands a person to be married to have a ministry from GOD? Is that what is being interpreted from it?

 

[Bladers]

why was it ok to demand that TB step down after his affair and not Benny Hinn? MAN! Talk about double standard. TB publically repented. I accept that, but still don't think he should be in the ministry quite yet.

AFFAIR and Divorce are totally different things...

If you have an affair with a young lady while stiil in your marriage, then file for divorce and leave your WIFE and KIDS to go MARRY the other lady days later.

Yes you should step down.

 

[ARBITER01]

AFFAIR and Divorce are totally different things...

If you have an affair with a young lady while stiil in your marriage, then file for divorce and leave your WIFE and KIDS to go MARRY the other lady.

Yes you should step down.

That's absolutely correct.

As well as, if your wife divorces you without any adulterous activity on your part, then you have no reason to leave ministry. Blame is not automatically conferred to you because of her decision to break the covenant.

 

[Bladers]

Did anyone watch Part 3 aswell?

youtube.com/watch?v=YF6ceqr-2_k&feature=related

 

[Yitzchak]

December 2009

A Little Rock pastor steps down after police say he had inappropriate contact with a 15-year-old boy. Members of The River Church, which recently ran "bar church" this past Easter Sunday, say they're saddened by the news. Police are investigating 42-year-old Shane Montgomery..........According to police, Montgomery admits to oral sex and fondling the teenager, but denies any other allegations.

Statement from River Church
The River Church and her leadership is shocked and saddened by the news of this event involving our former church planting pastor who has resigned effective today

We want to express our deep concern to the teenager and his family and are prepared to provide outside, professional counseling to this family as they cope.

We intend to fully cooperate with the investigation by the police as it proceeds.

Again, we express our deep sense of remorse for the situation and our commitment to assist in the help and healing process that is needed.

We have nothing more to add to this statement at this time.

 

[Yitzchak]

1998

WAKE FOREST, N.C. (BP)--Describing the last five years of his life as the most "painful" as well as "productive," Charles Stanley said prayer and meditation upon God's Word have been his salvation through the storm.
"There's not a pill in a bottle that will do for you when it comes to contentment, and relieving pressure, and bringing you a sense of quietness of spirit like stretching out before God in his Word, reading a passage, talking to him, being quiet and saying, 'Lord speak to my heart,'" Stanley told an overflow crowd March 31 at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary.
During an emotionally charged hour-long sermon, Stanley, pastor of First Baptist Church, Atlanta, for nearly 30 years, said his reliance on God's sovereignty has helped him persevere through marital problems and church schisms that have rocked his personal life and world-reaching ministry.
Two years ago, Stanley found himself in a mounting controversy from a divorce suit filed nearly three years earlier by his wife, Anna. Some church members, including his son, Andy, who served on staff at the church, thought Stanley should step down as senior pastor of the church until Stanley had reconciled his marriage. Andy resigned from his staff position in August 1995 in disagreement over his father continuing to serve as senior pastor during the ordeal.
Stanley, a former Southern Baptist Convention president whose sermons are televised throughout the world through his broadcast ministry called In Touch Ministries, vowed to step down only if the divorce became final. Anna dropped her divorce suit in March 1996 announcing that the couple were reconciling their differences.

december 2000

Sadly, after several years of separation Charles Stanley’s 44 year marriage to his wife Ann Stanley ended in divorce in May 2000. For many, the grounds for Charles Stanley’s divorce still remains unclear leaving many wondering what were the grounds for Charles Stanley’s divorce.

Reportedly, Charles Stanley’s wife, Anna Stanley, originally filed for divorce on 6/22/93 following their separation in the spring of 1992, but the two agreed Anna would amend the lawsuit to seek a legal separation instead (”separate maintenance”) while seeking reconciliation. Ann Stanley again filed for divorce on 3/20/95. Charles Stanley told the congregation in 1995, “If my wife divorces me, I would resign immediately.” Reportedly, Ann Stanley agreed to withdraw the divorce suit and work towards reconciliation. Things reportedly seemed hopeful by 1998, then fell apart again. In February 2000, she again filed for divorce, and a judge issued a final decree May 11, 2000 ending the 44-year marriage. Charles Stanley partly blamed “childhood difficulties.” But the grounds for Charles Stanely’s divorce was reported to be the marriage was “irretrievably broken.” Reportedly, Charles Stanley remained eligible to be pastor of First Baptist Church as long as he did not remarry.

 

[Yitzchak]

My point, this is very much an issue and has been for decades now in the church... as one poster pointed out , the harch treatment of some and the pass given to others is noticable.....It should tell you something when someone's own son resigns in protest.....

I still say that Charles Stanley handled his situation with more dignity though. No rumors of women on the side , no mud slinging at his ex....He compromised on the stepping down part , but at least he had it put to a confidence vote of the other church leaders and at least seriously considered stepping down.

And one fellow Southern Baptist and broadcaster took it very public. On June 13, the opening day of the SBC meeting, Prison Fellowship's Charles Colson on his nationwide "BreakPoint" radio commentary (heard on 1,000-plus stations) criticized Mr. Stanley, his staff, and the church for the way they handled the Stanley divorce. He said Mr. Stanley should make good on his promise to resign. "Given the already high divorce rate among Baptists, the last thing we need to do is to give one of our own leaders a pass, no matter how much we may respect him," said Mr. Colson, a member of First Baptist Church, Naples, Fla. Anna Stanley first sued for divorce in 1995. That August, Mr. Stanley stepped down from administrative duties at the church and told his congregation if and when the divorce became final, he would resign. The church's rules prohibit men from serving as deacons or ministers if they are divorced. However, the deacons intervened and by a vote of 35 to 3 recommended the congregation retain him as pastor. Nearly 90 percent of about 5,000 members at an October 1995 meeting voted to accept the deacons' recommendation. (The church was in the process of relocating to the northern suburbs; an expensive new complex was underway.) In protest, some members and several senior staff resigned-including Mr. Stanley's son Andy, who said his father should have left the pulpit

 

[Yitzchak]

February 2009

The pastor of Willow Creek Chicago -- the city campus of the evangelical megachurch Willow Creek Community Church -- has resigned and admitted to "sexual impurity," a church spokesman said.

The pastor, Rev. Steve Wu, could not be reached, and the church would not specify what took place.

Wu, 43, moved from California's Silicon Valley in early 2006, hired by senior pastor Rev. Bill Hybels to lead Willow Creek Chicago, the downtown branch of the South Barrington-based church.

Under Wu, Willow Creek Chicago began holding Sunday services at the historic Auditorium Theatre in October 2006, becoming Willow Creek's fifth campus and drawing a diverse congregation of more than 1,200 worshipers to the new church.

Willow Creek Community Church is one of the most influential evangelical churches in the nation with more than 20,000 members who worship at six locations throughout Illinois, as well as an international church community.

During Sunday services on Jan. 25, one of the church Elders, Greg Haecker, read a brief statement to the Willow Chicago congregation announcing Wu's resignation effective immediately.

These are not small unknown churches where this sort of thing is happening. They are large stable churches with pastors that have authored many christian books which line the Christian bookstore sheleves and have made the best seller lists.....

 

[ARBITER01]

My point, this is very much an issue and has been for decades now in the church... as one poster pointed out , the harch treatment of some and the pass given to others is noticable.....It should tell you something when someone's own son resigns in protest.....

I still say that Charles Stanley handled his situation with more dignity though. No rumors of women on the side , no mud slinging at his ex....He compromised on the stepping down part , but at least he had it put to a confidence vote of the other church leaders and at least seriously considered stepping down.

But did he have to step down?

Was her decision to leave him somehow binding upon his ministry? That's my point, and why I asked for scripture on it, because I'm quite positive by scripture that GOD did not somehow tie our marriages into our ministry.

As far as hinn and white, I'm not automatically going to call "shenanigans" on the issue, I have no reason to. Todd bentley's issue was doctrine. The affair thing was a complete surprise to me, but it only added to the circus he built, and ultimately helped to vindicate those of us who were against his weird doctrinal teachings by waking some folks up.

 

[Yitzchak]

December 2006

The pastor of Willow Creek Chicago -- the city campus of the evangelical megachurch Willow Creek Community Church -- has resigned and admitted to "sexual impurity," a church spokesman said.

The pastor, Rev. Steve Wu, could not be reached, and the church would not specify what took place.

Wu, 43, moved from California's Silicon Valley in early 2006, hired by senior pastor Rev. Bill Hybels to lead Willow Creek Chicago, the downtown branch of the South Barrington-based church.

Under Wu, Willow Creek Chicago began holding Sunday services at the historic Auditorium Theatre in October 2006, becoming Willow Creek's fifth campus and drawing a diverse congregation of more than 1,200 worshipers to the new church.

Willow Creek Community Church is one of the most influential evangelical churches in the nation with more than 20,000 members who worship at six locations throughout Illinois, as well as an international church community.

During Sunday services on Jan. 25, one of the church Elders, Greg Haecker, read a brief statement to the Willow Chicago congregation announcing Wu's resignation effective immediately.

There are many , many more similar stories....

1Ti 3:7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.