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  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

5 key signs to spot a human trafficking victim

You have to understand something, three years ago I was a suburban housewife with three children living a normal life.”

That’s what a woman in her mid-40s told me as she exited the aircraft. We had just flown her halfway across the country to remove her from a human trafficking ring.

Since 2021, when I founded a non-profit air transport that rescues trafficking victims free of charge, I have been astonished by the horrors of human trafficking. Trafficking occurs every day in just about every city in America. It is no longer just a crime that happens overseas. It is all around us in cities of all sizes in the U.S. Rather than being kidnapped, most survivors of trafficking are manipulated by traffickers into exploitative situations through psychological threats, tricks, and defrauding. Most survivors also knew their traffickers — whether as a romantic partner, a family member, or an acquaintance.

Wherever I speak to groups to bring awareness to human trafficking, I educate them on the dire statistics here in our own backyards. For traffickers, each human life — man, woman, boy, girl — is about a $200,000-a-year commodity. Victims are raped between eight and 12 times per day. That’s the price of bondage in the U.S.

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Poll: Majority of Israelis support ending war, 45% want PM Netanyahu's immediate resignation

A solid majority of Israelis, 66%, want an end to Israel's war against Hamas in Gaza, according to an Israel Democracy Institute (IDI) poll, which was released on Monday.

Approximately 27% surveyed want the war to continue, while 7% said they are not sure.

As Israel marks the two-year anniversary of Hamas’ Oct. 7 massacre in southern Israel, the primary concern among those who want the war to end is the fear of endangering the remaining hostages.

By contrast, 56% of Israelis who oppose ending the war emphasized the need to fully dismantle Hamas as a military threat. Additionally, 28% of those who support continuing the war believe that sustained military pressure on Hamas is necessary to secure the release of the remaining hostages.

The IDI poll also found that 66% of Israelis want Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to take responsibility for the failures of Oct. 7. Of those surveyed, 45% believe he should resign immediately, while 19% say he should step down after the war. Another 18% think he should acknowledge responsibility but remain in office, 13% believe he should do neither, and 5% were unsure.

A significantly higher proportion of Israeli Arabs than Jews believe Netanyahu should resign immediately. “The share of those who think that Netanyahu should accept responsibility and resign immediately is much higher among Arabs (67%) than among Jews (41%),” the IDI said in a statement.

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Greta Thunberg alleges torture in Israeli detention after Gaza flotilla arrest

"Swedish activist Greta Thunberg alleged on Tuesday that she and other detainees of the Gaza flotilla were subjected to torture in the Israeli prison they were held.

Thunberg told a news conference in Stockholm that she and others were "kidnapped and tortured" by the Israeli military.

She declined to elaborate"

Let the Left Do What They Want To Do Here In America

What would happen (and I kind of have a good feeling the outcome) if we just caved to the demands of the Left. Let the values and morals of Kamala Harris, Charles Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Hilary Clinton, George Soros, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Barack Obama, Ophrah Winfrey, Bill Clinton, James Carville, Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, Al Sharpton, Jasmine Crockett, some of our local liberals such as EssentialSaltes, Hans Blaster, Pommer, DaiseyDay, BCP1928, NxNw, iluvatar5150, TropicalWinds, Larniavc, and don't forget Bradski and so on just run the government. Tell them, "You guys are in charge; just leave us alone. We won't bother you, don't bother us. Of course, I know the first they will do is "bother us" probably by raising our taxes through the roof, possibly seizing our land, abolishing places of worship but let's let them have their way.

How far will it go? Will they make our country better to live in? There is no arguing with these people in anyway, they don't hear us. So just let them do what they want to do. Will they make a fairly livable place to live like Canada, Germany, France, Sweden and China or will there be a point where they will just start destroying themselves such as happened during the French Revolution or the beginnings of the Soviet Union? I don't know. All I do know is I'm tired of their constant badgering. I know this is a very farfetched idea because I know most conservatives minded people have great hope for our country that it would continue on the way the founding fathers envisioned it but I just say imagine it. Would it be good or disastrous.

My next question would then be, "Would God forgive us for allowing us to let this happen or would he consider us peacemakers, we let the Left do what they want to do. They cannot say we are holding them back anymore, we've compromised everything.

Spanish priest facing 3 years in prison after Muslims launch case alleging 'Islamophobia'

A Catholic priest in Spain has been found guilty of purported “Islamophobic” remarks and faces up to three years in prison.

Father Custodio Ballester was charged after questioning Cardinal Juan José Omella’s 2016 assertion that inter-faith dialogue with Islam was “necessary.”

In a letter, Fr. Ballester wrote: “This renewed revival of Christian-Muslim dialogue, paralyzed by the alleged ‘imprudence’ of the beloved Benedict XVI, is far from a reality. Islam does not allow for dialogue. You either believe or you are an infidel who must be subdued one way or another.”

In 2017, Ballester also suggested on YouTube that Islam poses a threat to Europe.

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Can states ban sexual orientation change efforts therapy? Supreme Court hears arguments

The U.S. Supreme Court will determine if states can ban licensed professionals from engaging in therapy with minors seeking to change their sexual orientation or help gender confused children accept their sex.

The Supreme Court heard oral arguments on Tuesday morning in the case of Kaley Chiles v. Patty Salazar, executive director of the Colorado Department of Regulatory Agencies, et al.

At issue was a challenge to a Colorado law by a Christian therapist named Kaley Chiles, who argued that the measure violates her rights under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

James Campbell of the Alliance Defending Freedom argued the case on behalf of Chiles, arguing that Colorado’s ban wrongfully censors “widely held views on debated moral, religious and scientific questions.”

“Aside from this law and recent ones like it, Colorado hasn’t identified any similar viewpoint-based bans on counseling,” Campbell said in his opening comments. “These laws are historic outliers.”

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Does reality pass the Turing test?

Having been an epistemological solipsist for over fifty years I've often wondered about how to tell whether the world around me is physically real or a simulation. The laws of physics seem to support the possibility of a simulation, but can't definitively answer the question, so I've been left to look for another means of determining whether I'm living in a simulation.

To that end I often wondered whether a character in a video game such as 'Grand Theft Auto' would be able to tell, simply by the behavior of the characters around it, that the world in which it was living wasn't 'real'. Would the fact that the characters seemed to act irrationally be a tip off to the possibility that it was living in a simulation? Or would it simply accept the simulation as real no matter how irrationally the characters in it behaved, or what the background story was.

I ask this because more and more the world seems to be behaving more like a poorly written video game than a naturally evolving physical reality. For instance, Donald Trump seems to be such a stereotypical narcissistic villain that it's hard to believe that he wasn't purposefully created just for this role, and his popularity, in spite of his obvious character flaws seems to defy reason.

So the question is, does reality pass the Turing test? Does it act like a freely evolving natural world, or does it act more like an purposely designed simulation?

Why not judas

Hey everyone this is my first time posting here so i apologize if im not formatting this correctly but i have a question for some Christians. Why is it that Judas Iscariot isn’t a saint? Now hear me out i get that he betrayed Jesus but he was still a loyal apostle no? And even after he betrayed Jesus he repents, granted he repents by taking his own life but he still understood his sin and he gave himself to Jesus. Is that not deserving of forgiveness. Jesus himself was not angry with Judas was he. Without Judas Jesus would not have been able save us from sin. Is his not a worthy sacrifice? Yes he gives up the son of God but he repents and him Giving up the son of God lead to the salvation of humanity. I guess it leads to the question of what is goodness without evil. But anyway why can we not appreciate or at least understand the fall and repentance of Judas?

The Brokenness of Christianity

The term "Christian" means to be a follower of Christ. That in turn, means to be a student of his teachings and walk those teachings out in your every day life. In this day and age though, there are over 45,000 different denominations world wide with 6 main branches. We are just way too fragmented... To give that point on how inconsistent we are, here is an article that discusses a research poll on percentages of just the core main points of Christianity and what people believe.
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Here is an example:
  • 64% believe that “Everyone is born innocent in the eyes of God.”
  • 53% agree that “Everyone sins a little, but most people are good by nature.”
  • 53% think that “The Holy Spirit is a force but is not a personal being”—compare this with the fact that 98% agreed with the statement: “There is one true God in three persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.” Talk about inconsistent!
  • 47% agree that “God accepts the worship of all religions, including Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.”
  • 28% say that “Jesus was a great teacher, but he was not God.”
  • 17% believe that “The Bible, like all sacred writings, contains helpful accounts of ancient myths but is not literally true.”
  • 19% affirm that “Modern science disproves the Bible.”
  • 16% likewise say that “The Bible’s condemnation of homosexual behavior doesn’t apply today.”
  • 28% think that “Religious belief is not about objective truth”—and another 19% aren’t sure how to answer this question.
But read the rest in order to see just how disjointed it really is.

We.... are a mess.... How can we spread the gospel when we can't even agree on the basics!?

Censorship?

It was a correction, "When the church of Rome though, completed her climb to the top of imperial support, she ended both the freedom to have the holy scriptures in the vernacular" is the opposite of the truth. That Catholics translated Biblical text into numerous languages of the people is a historical fact.
Since you are not going to start another topic, I will. So do you believe that allowing certain people to translate scripture but forbidding others to do so as if, oh I don't know, you own them, is not censorship? Who is the Catholic Church to claim ownership of the holy scriptures, and determine who can or cannot translate them into the languages of the various nations? So that all may read and hear the ultimate standard of truth for themselves. Here we are, please do show us all the translations the Catholic church had translated into native tongues that all might have access to this most important work for all professed followers of Jesus Christ to have. No doubt there are as many as there are or were languages of course, as there is no higher standard or revelation of truth above and beyond holy scripture, right?

Bring forth your evidence here, and I will bring forth the evidence of the RCC's censorship again, that all may examine both sides of the issue.

Oh oh, Dems in trouble again! This time Biden's FBI

VIDEO: Sen. Kennedy slams Dems' shutdown demands: 'We'll give $1.5T when donkeys fly'


It's just not going to happen. As to the sentencing for trying to kill a Supreme Court justice, I do agree. The number one goal in sentencing should be to protect society.
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When does blindness occur?

Romans is a book that is often the topic of fierce debate, when it comes to the theological topic of Predestination, and free will. Personally, I believe that God has given man free will, that all people will be given a chance of life, but their choices determine whether they will be saved.

One of the key topics of this debate is the fact that God brings blindness to the sinner. If a person believes in Predestination, they will say, “A portion of the world was always destined, or planned, to be blind from the beginning”. That, “God only rescues a selected portion of creation, not based on man’s deeds, but God’s choice”.

I would like to show from Romans 1 that it makes more sense to believe spiritual blindness comes as “a result of disobedience”, not as a default; it comes because of man’s choice. As we see in the 21st verse.

Rom 1:21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.​

Romans 1:21 shows us that God gives His knowledge to all, but some men choose to “supress” or push down that knowledge, God then gives those people over to blindness.

We see that also in:

2Th 2:10-12 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.​

God sends strong delusion to those who have “pleasure in unrighteousness”. So a debased mind is not the default, but rather what we are given over to if we delight in sin.

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;​

The earliest Church Leaders also taught that man “as it were, blind themselves”

4. ... but for the despisers and mockers who avoid and turn themselves away from this light, and who do, as it were, blind themselves, He has prepared darkness suitable to persons who oppose the light, and He has inflicted an appropriate punishment upon those who try to avoid being subject to Him. Submission to God is eternal rest, so that they who shun the light have a place worthy of their flight; and those who fly from eternal rest, have a habitation in accordance with their fleeing. Now, since all good things are with God, they who by their own determination fly from God, do defraud themselves of all good things; and having been [thus] defrauded of all good things with respect to God, they shall consequently fall under the just judgment of God. (Irenaeus 120-202, Against Heresies - Book 4 Ch 39 -End)
Note: blindness in this post is not referring to Spiritual Ignorance, but rather a deep blindness that prevents salvation from occurring. We are all born with Spiritual Ignorance, blindness in this post refers to that which prevents salvation.

John 9:41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, 'We see.' Therefore your sin remains.
Joh 15:22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
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might seem silly but I just wonder

Do you also feel the joy from God when you try your best to do right to live right follow what He says? A joy suddenly comes over me and I feel like almost a shoulder nod with his hand. I feel it from within, and it is not from me. And joy rush over me. And feel this acceptance. Do you also feel like that?

Sometimes.. you have to stand up

Sometimes.. you have to stand up. Fight for the Light. For what is right.
Not allowing evil.
I read a lot. I read and heard about how evil florish on work places bullying, psychopaths, narcissists. Ongoing evil behaviour, work place after work place, field after field. Less where mostly men dominated they tend to sort things fast. How bad behaviour is rewarded, how they cling to their positions and everyone defend them, manipulation and fear and control. Destruction. Destruction of work places. etc. you know what I mean.
I believe even as christians we have a duty to stand up to evil. In such cases. There come a time, where we have to stand up for what is right.

Dream....perhaps unity being addressed?

"had a dream about a dark complected man who looked middle eastern come across the street from a house just to the right of my house with his arm's opened in a friendly greeting..and he began to rub oil or something for beards into my facial hair and the whole time i kept my eyes down cast and i felt uncomfortable. but was amazed that my beard had grown as the man had rubbed the oil into my beard until it was absorbed"

Judge' house burns down after she rules against Trump

South Carolina judge's house destroyed by fire; officials investigating cause - ABC News


A South Carolina judge's house went up in flames Sunday, hospitalizing three and destroying the home.

Circuit Court Judge Diane Goodstein was walking her dogs on the beach in Edisto Island, S.C., about an hour south of Charleston, when the fire began, according to officials. Her husband, former state Sen. Arnold Goodstein, their son, Arnold Goodstein III, and one other occupant were forced to jump from the burning building from an elevated first floor to escape the blaze, officials said.

Last month, Goodstein blocked the South Carolina Election Commission from providing the Department of Justice with millions of voter files that included personal names, addresses, driver’s license numbers and social security numbers,
according to court documents.
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ICE agents making phony 911 calls

ICE’s Growing Feud With Chicago Police Now Includes Fake 911 Calls​



An Illinois police chief has accused ICE agents of making fake 911 calls to local police.

Broadview Police Chief Thomas Mills told CBS News that multiple officers responded to a call about someone trying to break into the gate of an ICE facility on Thursday. When they arrived, they just saw a CBS News cameraman and security guard taking pictures.

“It’s disturbing. It’s ridiculous,” Mills said.

According to an incident report, it was an ICE agent that made the call. This is the very same ICE facility where masked agents shot a pepper ball inside CBS News Chicago reporter Asal Rezaei’s car completely unprompted.

“We’re going to look at maybe reaching out to Cook County State’s Attorney for subpoenas, “ said Mills, who has vowed to get the name of every officer involved in the incident.

Sounds like some ICE agents need to go to jail.

Anyone attempt to start a Bible Study with the people you evangelize who are mostly homeless?

We have been bringing bibles and handouts with the gospel readings for each upcoming Sunday and having all manner of discussions from those readings alone.

All are invited.

Anyone else try this or want to try it?

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