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Is there another '1st World' country, where our darkskin-Black friends get arrested for having mental health crises?

This is so, so sad to hear he was treated this way, like a rabid jungle animal for threatening to harm himself. And then be arrested "...after an incident at a staffer's home during which prosecutors allege he [only] threatened self-harm, a situation his defense attorney described as a mental health crisis..." without a doubt.

Had he been one of us Caucasians, would he had simply been transported to a mental health provider instead of jail??

Shootings at Bondi Beach

It's breaking news but there have been multiple shootings at Bondi Beach in Sydney, Australia.


The death and injury toll is as yet unkown.

Two suspects have been arrested but not identified. I'll bet a pound to a penny that they are Moslems.

Jewish celebration was taking place at location of shooting
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The shooting appears to have taken place at the northern end of Bondi Beach, near or at Bondi Park Playground.

We don't yet have any information about the target or nature of the shooting, but we can confirm that a Chanukah by the Sea event was scheduled to take place at that playground from 5pm, and had begun.

Today is the first day of Chanukah, or Hanukkah, an eight-day Jewish festival of lights.

"May it Be Done to Me"

Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city in Galilee called Nazareth, to a virgin engaged to a man whose name was Joseph, of the descendants of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary. And coming in, he said to her, “Greetings, favored one! The Lord is with you.” But she was very perplexed at this statement, and kept pondering what kind of salutation this was. The angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and His kingdom will have no end.”
Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I am a virgin?” The angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God. And behold, even your relative Elizabeth has also conceived a son in her old age; and she who was called barren is now in her sixth month. For nothing will be impossible with God.” And Mary said, “Behold, the bondslave of the Lord; may it be done to me according to your word.” And the angel departed from her. (Luke 1:26-38 NASB1995)

Jesus always existed with God, and he was and is God, the second person of our triune God – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. So he didn’t just come into being when he was born as a baby to his mother Mary. For Jesus willingly left the throne in heaven which he had with God the Father, he came to the earth, and he was born to Mary, but conceived of the Holy Spirit. So he was not born with a sin nature as we are, and he never once sinned. But when he lived on the earth he was both fully God and fully human (God incarnate).

[John 1:1-36; John 8:24,58; John 10:30-33; John 20:28-29; Romans 9:5; Philippians 2:5-11; Colossians 2:9; Titus 2:13; Hebrews 1:8-9; 1 Peter 1:20-21; 2 Peter 1:1]

Now Mary was chosen of God to bear the only begotten Son of God, but this did not make her someone to be worshipped as though she is a god. But she was a young woman of tremendous faith in the Lord who believed what the angel told her, even though she didn’t understand, at first, how it was going to take place, since she was a virgin. And that took a lot of faith and courage to believe what the angel told her, too, especially since she would most certainly now be marked as an adulteress, for who would believe her story?

Now try to put yourself in her position, which will be harder for males, or try to imagine a situation where God might send an angel to you to call you to do something that you know will get you tagged as crazy, or as someone who cheated on your mate, and so you know people are going to think you have lost your mind or that you have sinned against God. And so you know they are not going to believe you, and that they are probably going to reject you, or that they might even put you to death for what they think you did.

For this isn’t just a “nice story” that gets repeated once a year, but this is a story of tremendous faith and trust in God and in his calling upon the life of a young woman who sets a great example for us who follow Jesus with our lives as to the kind of faith which we should have, too; a faith which believes in miracles and in divine intervention. And Mary said, “Behold, the bondslave of the Lord; may it be done to me according to your word.” And this should be our response to God when he calls us to do “the seemingly impossible.”

And some of us may be being faced with difficult situations in our lives which seem to not have answers, and the Lord may be leading us in directions we never thought possible, and so we know we will have to step out in faith, believing that God is in control, and then just trust him with the details. And Mary can serve as a wonderful example for us of that faith, where we rest in the Lord, and where we consider ourselves as servants of the Lord, and so we say with Mary, “May it be done to me according to your word.” Amen!

His Tender Mercies

An Original Work / January 26, 2014
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


Fear not! I’m with you.
Be not dismayed!
God watches o’er you.
Trust Him today.
He’ll lead and guide you;
Give you His aid.
He’ll love and keep you
With Him always.

Walk in His footsteps.
He’ll lead the way.
Trust in His love;
Believe that He cares.
He will not leave you.
Faithful He’ll be.
His tender mercies
Now you will see.

Fellowship with Him
Throughout the day.
Tell Him your heartaches.
He’ll heal always.
Rest in His comfort.
He is your friend.
Your faith He’ll strengthen,
True to the end.

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“May it Be Done to Me”
An Original Work / December 14, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Earliest denial of sons of God meaning angels

Genesis 6:4​

New International Version​

4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
1 Enoch internally written before the flood by Enoch 7th from Adam inspired scripture hidden (apocrypha) from the swine, and unworthy by God himself explains how the sons of God were fallen angels, and Jude, and Peter imply the same thing when they say angels left their heavenly abode were put in chains until judgement which is what 1 Enoch says also.

The Cave of Treasures internally is written after 70 AD as it says Titus has destroyed Jerusalem. Inspired scripture stopped 70 AD (Dan 9 said vision, and prophecy would be sealed up by then) so it is not inspired. Some manuscripts say it was written by Ephrem the Syrian who died 373 AD. That text says sons of Seth mated with daughters of Cain, and made the giants, and explicitly says fallen angels were not involved. Augustine of Hippo 400 AD says the same thing. Conflict of Adam, and Eve with Satan (which is divided into 4 books) also say the same. That text was also written after 70 AD as it says Titus has destroyed Jerusalem, and shares a lot of content with Cave of Treasures. That text also says Melchizadek was the son of Cainan. I'm not sure if it was written before or after cave of treasures. So Ephrem the Syrian is the earliest author denying what 1 Enoch says AFAIK. In those texts sons of god meant Seths children as Seth, and other people in that lineage were righteous Genesis 6:9. Augustine also promoted the idea that 1 Enoch was not written pre flood. So up until 300s AD the majority of Christians believed 1 Enoch was written pre flood like Jesus, Jude, 1 Enoch, and all the other evidence says it was (there is stuff in the dead sea scrolls about Abraham reading Enoch when in Egypt, and Levi passing Enochs books to his children). My guess is the synagogue of satan after 70 AD started saying to Christians you can't trust 1 Enoch it is a myth it is pseudepigrapha it was written after the flood etc, and a lot of Christians believed them just like Adam, and Eve believed the devil in the garden of Eden, David believed satan with the census (God allowed the devil to tempt David) , and just like 50 million Christians today believe the synagogue of satan when they say "god gave us palestine help us kill steal and destroy in the name of the god of abraham'. The reason the synagogue of satan did not like 1 Enoch is because of the son of man that existed before creation with the lord of spirits prophecy (ask chat GPT to show all the prophecies of Jesus in 1 Enoch) which was used by Daniel later on, and when Jesus called himself the son of man the high priest rent his garment, and said “He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy. Mathew 26: 65.

Obama-appointed judge under fire for light sentence and praise of illegal immigrant who raped woman with cerebral palsy


I just don't understand it. All I can say is that there has to be a blind spot when it comes to evil.
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More healing prayers please

My son Jakeb is having another bad night. Please ask God to heal him mind and body, give him joy and keep him safe. I pray that the doctor will help him on Monday. Oh please pray there is nothing seriously wrong. I ask in the name of Jesus. Thank you and God bless you.

Review of Charlie Kirk's book Stop in the name of God

Interesting youtube vid

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Notice there is a reference to GC 588 in the video.

Also notice that in the past 7 or 8 days we have Kirk Cameron discussing his rethinking of the soul and eternal hell, and we also have the release of the book by Charlie Kirk 'Stop in the name of God".

Both are discussed in that video

Time magazine snubs Charlie Kirk, names AI 'architects' as 'Person of the Year'

Conservative podcaster Megyn Kelly slams 'genuinely wrong' pick

Time magazine is facing backlash from one of conservative media’s biggest voices over its decision to snub Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk as its “Person of the Year” despite Kirk’s death marking the first major political assassination in the U.S. since the 1960s.

Instead, the century-old magazine gave its annual award to a collective of tech titans leading the artificial intelligence (AI) revolution, framing the year as a tipping point when the technology "roared into view" with irreversible momentum.

Time's announcement, unveiled Thursday, celebrated the "Architects of AI" as the magazine's 2025 honorees, with a reimagined version of the iconic 1930s photograph "Lunch Atop a Skyscraper" as its cover art. Replacing the classic photo’s hard-hatted construction workers were eight suited tech leaders perched on a beam overlooking New York City: Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg, AMD CEO Lisa Su, Tesla CEO Elon Musk, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis, Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei, and AI pioneer Fei-Fei Li, founder of World Labs.

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How Long have Humans Lived on Earth?

Many creationists firmly believe that the earth cannot be more 6,000 years old. I am not going to discuss the age of the universe but I will discuss the development of civilization on earth.

When was fire domesticated?

“ Here we present evidence of fire-making on a 400,000-year-old buried landsurface at Barnham (UK), where heated sediments and fire-cracked flint handaxes were found alongside two fragments of iron pyrite—a mineral used in later periods to strike sparks with flint.”


ttps://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09855-6


Fire led very quickly to cooking. The application of fire to metalworking was much slower.

On Copper:
“Its use was known in eastern Anatolia by 6500 BCE and it soon became widespread.”
That is 8,500 years ago.


Bronze Age | Definition, History, Inventions, Tools, & Facts | Britannica

When were dogs domesticated?

“Dogs were domesticated from their wolf ancestors over 15,000 years ago.”

The Evolution of Dogs, Accidental Best Friends
This is Ohio Wesleyan University


When were cats domesticated?

“Together the transport of cats to the island and the burial of the human with a cat indicate that people had a special, intentional relationship with cats nearly 10,000 years ago in the Middle East.”


The Evolution of House Cats

When were sheep domesticated?

“Now, research at an 11,000-year-old settlement in Turkey shows that some early farmers kept wild sheep penned up in the middle of their village—thus setting the stage for the dramatic changes that led to today's domesticated animals.”


A Brief History of Goat Domestication - The Livestock Conservancy

When were cattle domesticated?

“All cattle are descended from as few as 80 animals that were domesticated from wild ox in the Near East some 10,500 years ago, according to a new genetic study.”


https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2012/mar...mall-herd-domesticated-around-10500-years-ago

This is University College, London, England

When were goats domesticated?

“Judging by early signs of domestication, such as bones from the slaughter of male young [goats], this started around 10,500 years ago in Anatolia (Turkey) and the Zagros Mountains (Iran)


A Brief History of Goat Domestication - The Livestock Conservancy

When was wheat cultivated?

“Cultivated for 10,000 years, wheat is one of the world’s most important plants.”

Wheat 101 | National Associate of Wheat Growers
This is the National Association of Wheat Growers


When was barley first cultivated?

“Remains of barley (Hordeum vulgare) grains found at archaeological sites in the Fertile Crescent indicate that about 10,000 years ago the crop was domesticated there from its wild relative Hordeum spontaneum.”


https://www.researchgate.net/public...mestication_History_of_Barley_Hordeum_vulgare

When was rice cultivated?

“...the earliest archaeological evidence [for cultivation of rice] comes from central and eastern China and dates to 7,000-5,000 BCE.

That would be between 9,000 and 7,000 years ago.


Rice | Description, History, Cultivation, & Uses | Britannica


Everything we know about the history of humans on earth contradicts the claim that the earth could be only 6,000 years old. The Bible is a source of moral and spiritual truth, but it is not a history text.

Christmas and Legalism

Hello!

I was talking with a lady who has recently lost her husband, she reports being under intense peer pressure, which she thought was a form of legalism, to do silly stuff she doesn't want to do. Specifically regarding trees/decorations/turkeys and the like. She said she hates this time of year, wishes it was over and that people would stop pressurizing her. I agreed with her, at this time of year there is pressure to do things you don't want to do from other Christians. Maybe well meaning people, sometimes maybe trying to make conversation, but I find it rather wearing. Pressure and competition, I detect a lot of people are trying doing this stuff as a form of oneupmanship. Like the guy who needs a bigger tree and more glowing gnomes and Odins in their garden than the person next door.

Leaving aside the possible pagan origins of much of this stuff is it Biblical to pressure people to do something they don't want to do? There's no biblical command telling us to put up a 'Christmas Tree', or to take a present from a man dressed as Santa aka Odin at a church party, or to sings songs about flying deer. Or forcing someone to wear a Santa hat or an Elf hat when they don't want to (yes, in a previous year I was forced to wear an elf hat to participate as a helper at a church event). Why then are people pressured into doing this if they don't want to? Isn't it a form of legalism? Being forced to partake in possible Paganism in Church? I detect churches are more likely to have a Santa and a tree than a nativity scene.

It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery (Galatians 5:1).

I have been told that's it's a form of legalism to tell people not to engage in certain activities, so why then isn't it legalism to compel people to engage in those activities?

I have been told that it would be legalism to acknowledge various Old Testament Biblical Feasts or to encourage others to do so. Why then isn't it Legalism to compel others to revere a flying fat all knowing midget from the North pole?

For those who don't think churches could revere demons or compel others to do so, there's 'Tuesday' for example. A day of the week named to honour a pagan god of war. Wednesday, Thursday and Friday are the same. Living in a pagan world aren't we meant to be aware of the devil's schemes, rather then going along with anything and everything, afterall Satan masquerades as an angel of light.

God Bless All :) and happy Christmas. Hope you find a time of peace and joy in remembering the Saviour's birth and please don't take my post as critical or judgemental. I'm asking Qs from a place of frustration is all.

Are You Caught in Sin?

“Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted. Bear one another’s burdens, and thereby fulfill the law of Christ. For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. But each one must examine his own work, and then he will have reason for boasting in regard to himself alone, and not in regard to another. For each one will bear his own load.” (Galatians 6:1-5 NASB1995)

We who are spiritual are not all who merely profess the name of Jesus with our lips. We who are spiritual are those who are walking according to the will of God for our lives in obedience to our Lord’s commands, not necessarily in all perfection, but in daily practice, by the grace of God, in the power of God. We are not those who are also caught in sin or those who are deliberately and habitually living sinful lifestyles. And that is a very important factor here to understand, because we can’t help others if we are also caught in sin.

In other words, the blind cannot lead the blind. So if we are going to help a fellow Christian (or someone who is professing faith in Jesus Christ) to be free from their slavery (addiction) to sin, then we need to be those who are deliberately and habitually walking (in conduct) in accord with God’s word, living holy lives, pleasing to God. But even at that, we are still humans, and we are still subject to temptation and to failure, so we must guard our own hearts so that we, in trying to help another, are not led astray ourselves.

Now this word “caught” can mean many things. It can mean that the person sinning was literally caught in the act by someone else. Or it can mean that they are those who are trapped in sin, for whom sin has a stronghold on their lives, and so they are struggling to be free of the sin, and so they need someone who has victory over sin to help them to also be free from the trap of sin. Or they can be those who don’t really want to let go of their sin but who put on a performance that they do want help so it appears that they do.

But I will tell you right here from personal experience that most of these “support groups” out there to help people overcome addiction, from what I have been able to ascertain, are not using the Scriptures as their foundation for how to overcome the power of sin, but they are using human-based psychological methods which often do not permit the use of the Scriptures. And so they make humans dependent on other humans, and not dependent on God to free them from their bondage to sin. And many of these fail.

For God has the only solution for deliverance from slavery to sin, and that is via biblical faith in Jesus Christ, which comes from God, which puts sin to death in the life of the person of faith so that they can now walk in freedom from addiction to sin and serve the Lord faithfully in walks of obedience to his commands. And the Scriptures are filled with messages which teach that we must put off those sins and put on the opposite, like putting off lying, and now telling the truth, and putting off hate, and putting on love.

For Jesus Christ gave his life up for us on that cross to put our sins to death with him so that by God-persuaded faith in him we will now die to sin and live to God and to his righteousness in walks of surrender to him and in obedience to his commands, in the power and wisdom and strength of God living and working within us in the person of the Holy Spirit. But we have to say “No” to sin and “Yes” to God and to his commands, and we must rely on the strength of the Lord to resist Satan and to flee temptation to sin.

In other words, we have to have a change of heart and mind resulting in a change of behavior, which is what repentance is all about. For repentance is not verbalizing empty words of confession of sin while the person then keeps going right back to the same sins over again. When we repent of sin we change from going one direction to going the opposite direction, like making a U-turn in the road. And it doesn’t necessitate absolute perfection, but it must result in a change of direction, and not continuing in deliberate sin.

So, this should not be a long drawn out process that continues on and on forever while the addicted continue to “struggle” with sin and to not make it to victory over sin. So this is never about pampering people in their sin nor about tolerating deliberate and habitual sin in the life of one claiming faith in Jesus Christ. For this word “restore” is about putting a joint which is out of place back into place, which is a painful process. It is about putting things back in their proper working order. And Jesus’ death did that for us.

So, again, the way to restore one who has fallen spiritually back to a right relationship with God is to lead them in the path of righteousness. But their hearts have to be in the right place. They have to want to be free of their sin to the point to where they will have that change of mind and heart resulting in a change of behavior, so that they will turn away from sin and turn to now walking in obedience to our Lord’s commands, empowered by God and by his grace. For we cannot make anyone change directions. They must turn.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

Walking in The Light

Based off 1 John 1-2
An Original Work / November 16, 2011
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


When I lift up my voice, and
Sing praise unto God,
I will fellowship with my
Lord and Savior, King.
In Him there is no darkness.
He is in the light of truth.
If we walk in His light,
From sin He purifies.

If we repent of our sins,
He’ll forgive us now,
When we humble ourselves, and
Before Jesus bow.
The man who says, “I know Him,”
But does not obey His truth,
There is no truth in him.
In darkness still he’s found.

Do not love the world of sin,
For it is hell bound.
If you follow the world, you’ll
Not in Christ be found.
The world and its desires
Will not last; they’ll expire.
The one who does God’s will,
Receives eternal life.

See that what you have heard from
Christ remains in you.
Then, you’ll remain in Christ, and
In His Father, too.
This is what He promised us –
His eternal life with God.
So, continue in Him, and
You’ll receive a crown.

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An Original Work / December 13, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Prayer for Nephew's Daughter

Her name is Caroline, and is about 11-12 years old She was taken to the emergency room yesterday, because her hand is turning blue, indicating some kind of circulatory problem. She was released, but I am requesting prayer for God's intervention in her life and in the life of her fraternal twin sister, Adeline. They were miracle babies and are peas in a pod in every way. Thankfully, they are getting a Christian education in a Catholic school, but I pray God will establish Himself in their lives as their source for every need, including health, healing, and substance. In Jesus name. Thankyou!

Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground (ADAMAH)...

Peace in Christ.

The light shines in our hearts when we hear the voice of the Son of God as He comes to give us an understanding. This is the sign of the Son of man in heaven…in those who have their citizenship in heaven now in this earth. This light within us is the witness of God about His Son whom we are to hear.

He opens up the Scripture of Truth to our hearing ears and we are to take heed on how we hear His correct interpretation of it.

We shall know that this is His beloved Son (whom we are to HEAR) by the light that shines in a dark place…in our hearts. This is the witness of God shining within our very own hearts of His Son whom we hear speaking to us.

2Pe 1:17-20 KJV
(17) For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
(18) And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.

(19) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

The private interpretation of the “word of men” ..of men who are not preaching with the Spirit of Truth… does not have this effect upon our hearts.

(20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

The witness of God about His Son speaking to us is WITHIN US. He that believes on the Son of God (who comes to give us an understanding) has the witness of God within our very hearts.

1Jn 5:9-11 KJV
(9) If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
(10) He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

(11) And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

We are to believe in that light shining in our hearts so that we may be children of light in this dark world. We are to put away the works of darkness (wrath, envy, strife, contentions) and receive His words….the Word of Truth…the true sayings of God… in belief.

Joh 12:35-37 KJV
(35) Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth.
(36) While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.

(37) But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:

He begets us with the Word of Truth (in contrast to the word of men who preach the Scriptures in their own private interpretations of it).

We are to be swift to hear and slow to speak and slow to wrath towards the hearing of the Word of Truth. The wrath of man does not work the righteousness of God.

Jas 1:18-20 KJV
(18) Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
(19) Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:

(20) For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

He calls us unto His kingdom and glory...and we are to walk worthy of God. We are to receive the Word of God (with good works) spoken in truth…the true sayings of God…as compared to the word of men whose private interpretations of the Scriptures is in error of the Truth. By the receiving of His Word of Truth, we are to enter into His kingdom and display His glory to this dark world.

1Th 2:12-14 KJV
(12) That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.

(13) For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

Our own “countrymen”…our own man-based church families…will persecute those who will believe in the true sayings of God in their unbelief of what they will hear Him saying. They will behave badly towards what they hear and towards those who will believe in it. We are to be faithful to His death ...keeping the daily sacrifice of the Lamb...when we are persecuted by them.

(14) For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

The truth is in Jesus. He is the source of it. We are to hear His voice as He teaches us….who opens up the Scripture of Truth to our hearing ears. His interpretation of the Scriptures will not align with what the word of men have been preaching in their ignorance of the Truth.

Eph 4:21-28 KJV
(21) If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

We must put off the former behavior of the old man which is decayed according to the deceitful lusts.

The “old man” …the old church man…wants to behave in contention towards what he hears. The old man wants to speak evil in unbelief of what he hears. The old man church man gets angry about what he hears and wants to speak a multitude of words against it. We must overcome this. If a man seems religious and does not bridle his tongue, then that man's religion is empty. James 1: 26 .

(22) That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

We must overcome this and be renewed in the spirit of our minds towards what we hear.

(23) And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
(24) And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

(25) Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

The good news is NOW reported unto us via the Holy Spirit sent down from heaven. The "angels" that desire to look into these things = the prophets who did write the things found in the Scriptures for us today. Their words are for us today. Unto us did they minister the things which we hear now.

1Pe 1:12-16 KJV
(12) Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

We are to hear His disclosure…the revelation of Jesus Christ …who speaks to us from Heaven. We are to gird up the loins of our mind and be sober (and not be found drunk on the wine of wrath) towards what we hear Him saying to us from Heaven as He speaks to us the Word of Truth.

(13) Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

We are to be “obedient”…that is, HEARING ATTENTIVELY (Greek: hupakoē - to hear attentively, to hear under in submission to it)…children.

When we hear His Word of Truth, we are not to conform to our old church selves that fought with one another over our denominations', erroneous teachings. We did these things before in our ignorance of the Word of Truth. When we hear His voice today speaking the Word of Truth, we are to be found by Him holy as He is holy.

(14) As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
(15) But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;

(16) Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

If we are angry at what we hear (the Word of Truth), sin not.

Do not let the wrath within us produce evil words to come out of our mouths towards what we hear.

Do not let the sun…the light…go down (to set fully) upon our wrath. We must overcome our wrath and do well towards what we hear Him saying to us. Don’t give place (in our mouths) to the devil who will use our wrath to speak evil towards what we hear. We give place to the devil when we use our mouths to speak evil words towards what we hear.

(26) Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
(27) Neither give place to the devil.

Let him that stole steal no more. This is talking to our pastors. Let them work with their own hands that which is good (to work with their own hands to support their own earthly necessities). In doing this, they can then give to them that need….that is, to feed the flock of God with the Word of Truth. This statement will indeed induce wrath with those pastors (who are not working with their own hands to support their own earthly needs) who will hear this. Do not give place to the devil.

(28) Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

If we are angry like Cain…who was “very wroth”…and his face fell, we must overcome the sin that lies at the “door” of our mouths. We are tempted to speak out in our wrath. If we do well, shall we not be accepted…lifted up?

Gen 4:5-7 KJV
(5) But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

(6) And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

We must overcome the temptation to open up our mouths and speak evil. Don’t go in the way of Cain.

(7) If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Cain was a tiller…a worker of…the “ground”…that is, the ADAMAH which is the people of the outside world.

He represents the pastors (men of the Lord..."I have gotten a man from the Lord." Genesis 4:1 ) who are only “serving” for their own belly. They serve for their earthly things just as the people of the outside world (tillers of the “Adamah”) who only work for their earthly things (what to eat, what to drink, what to wear). The outside nations run after these things. Matthew 6:32 . They are “tillers” of the Adamah.

Gen 4:2-3
(2) And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground (ADAMAH).

(3) And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground (ADAMAH) an offering unto the LORD.

Abel was a keeper of sheep. Paul showed the overseers of the sheep all things on how to feed the flock of God…to be a keeper of His sheep: to work with our own hands to support our own earthly necessities. We must be "keepers of the sheep" in this way. We can then feed the flock of which we oversee.

Act 20:27-28 KJV
(27) For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.

(28) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

He has shown the overseers of the flock of God’s sheep all things: how that laboring with our own hands to support our own earthly necessities we can then feed the sheep the Word of Truth. We must be with him in this.

Act 20:33-35 KJV
(33) I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel.
(34) Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.

(35) I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

The original apostles have made themselves an example to follow. They worked with their own hands to support their own earthly necessities. They worked night and day instead of eating any man’s bread for nothing.

2Th 3:7-10 KJV
(7) For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;
(8) Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:

(9) Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.

In fact, is a commandment now for us today: to work with our own hands for our own bread…earthly necessities.

(10) For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

They...the original apostles of Christ... did bind us now with this commandment that after them we should follow them in this thing. They did bind on earth this earthly pursuit of earthly necessities and now it is bound in heaven…in us who have our citizenship in heaven now in this earth.

Mat 16:19 KJV

(19) And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

US soldiers, civilian interpreter killed during ambush in Syria by apparent ISIS gunman: Officials

Two U.S. soldiers and one civilian U.S. interpreter were killed in Syria Saturday after they were ambushed by a likely ISIS gunman, U.S. officials said.

The gunman was killed by "partner forces" during a skirmish, according to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.

Three other service members were injured during the incident in Palmyra, Syria, Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said in a statement. Two U.S. officials told ABC News the wounded were American.

A Pentagon official told ABC News that Saturday's attack "took place in an area where the Syrian President does not have control."

  • Poll
Comparative Forms of Reasoning

Which form of reasoning do I tend to use most?

  • Deductive reasoning - belief relies upon making valid and sound inferences.

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • Inductive reasoning - the belief is supported with some probability from observation.

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • Abductive reasoning - belief is inferred by what seems to be the best explanation.

    Votes: 2 50.0%

Each of us has our own preference for a form of reasoning we tend to apply in most cases, even in the thinking and living that is a part of our faith.

In the short video below, three comparative modes of reasoning are presented (in very simple terms which may not fully represent the entirety of each mode of reasoning).

Think about which form of reasoning you tend to use or favor the most and then, if you please, answer the poll. Feel free to chat about how you analyze life from that form of reasoning.

Deductive vs Inductive vs Abductive Reasoning​

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2 Esdras/4 Ezra genealogies vs Ezra

2 Esdras/4 Ezra genealogies compared to protestant Ezra
2 EsdrasEzra / ChroniclesNotes
EsdrasEzraSame name (Greek vs Hebrew form)
SaraiasSeraiahSame
AzaraiasAzariahSame
HelkiasHilkiahSame
SalemasShallumSame
SadocZadokSame
AhitobAhitubSame
AchiasExtra name in 2 Esdras
PhineesPhinehasSame
HeliExtra name
AmariasAmariahSame
AzieiAzariahSame
MarimothMeraiothSame
ArnaZerahiahName variation / compression
OziasUzziSame
BorithBukkiSame
AbisseiAbishuaSame
PhineesPhinehasSame
EleazarEleazarSame
AaronAaronSame


4. Key Observations (important)​

1. Same priestly line

Both genealogies trace Ezra/Esdras directly to Aaron through Eleazar, not Ithamar — the high-priestly line.

2. 2 Esdras is longer

2 Esdras includes additional names (e.g., Achias, Heli) that are absent from Ezra 7.

This fits your earlier assumption:

  • Biblical genealogies are selective, not exhaustive
  • Later writers may compress, earlier or alternative traditions may expand

3. No contradiction

There is no direct conflict:

  • Same core names
  • Same order
  • Same endpoint (Aaron)
  • Differences are additive, not contradictory

4. Matches Second Temple expectations

Expanded priestly genealogies are common in:

  • Chronicles
  • Jubilees
  • 2 Esdras
  • Qumran priestly lists

5. Bottom Line​

  • 2 Esdras preserves a fuller priestly genealogy
  • Ezra 7 gives a compressed, official version
  • Both trace Ezra/Esdras legitimately to Aaron through Eleazar
  • The differences strengthen, not weaken, the historical claim under an ancient worldview


    Protestant Ezra internally is written in the 7th year of Artaxerxes which is 457 BC. 2 Esdras internally is written 30 years after the destruction of Jerusalem 587 BC therefore 557 BC, and another section says during the reign of Artaxerxes but he does not say what year. Assuming the same time as protestant Ezra then that is 457 BC. If Ezra was 20 when he wrote the first section it means he lived to around 120 years, and wrote the last section as a very old man. The talmud which is jewish fables 1 titus 14 says Ezra lived to 120. It seems like that is one of the rare instances where the talmud preserves a historical truth.

Senator Ron Johnson Endorses Discredited Doctor’s Book on a Chemical [Chlorine Dioxide] He Claims Treats Everything From Autism to Cancer

New Republican health plan suggestion: Drink bleach!

Senator Endorses Discredited Doctor’s Book on a Chemical He Claims Treats Everything From Autism to Cancer

Wisconsin's Ron Johnson has a history of spreading vaccine misinformation. Now he's giving credence to assertions about the therapeutic powers of chlorine dioxide, a disinfectant and deodorizer. “It is all lunacy," one expert said.​


He’s promoted disproven treatments for COVID-19 and claimed, without evidence, that athletes are “dropping dead on the field” after getting the COVID-19 vaccination. Now the Wisconsin politician is endorsing a book by a discredited doctor promoting an unproven and dangerous treatment for autism and a host of ailments: chlorine dioxide, a chemical used for disinfecting and bleaching.

The book is “The War on Chlorine Dioxide: The Medicine that Could End Medicineby Dr. Pierre Kory, a critical care specialist who practiced in Wisconsin hospitals before losing his medical certification for statements advocating using an antiparasite medication to treat COVID-19. The action, he’s said, makes him unemployable, even though he still has a license.

Kory’s book, set to be released to the public in January, argues that word of chlorine dioxide’s effectiveness has been suppressed by government and medical forces that need people to remain perpetually ill to generate large profits.

Johnson confirmed to ProPublica in an email that he authorized the statement on the cover. “After reading the entire book, yes I provided and approved that blurb,” he said.

God’s Politics

D book by Jim Wallice but still seems relevant.



“The beating drum of the book: poverty is a moral issue. This is why the [religious right are "getting it wrong"]Asserting that America has strayed away from God's ideas of equality and rewards, Wallis points out that no matter the quality of their actions, the rich are getting richer and the laborer more destitute. Wallis effectively strips religion away from many positions held by the religious right.

“But at least the Right made the attempt and has reaped the benefits, regardless of whether they should have. The Left, on the other had, "doesn't get it" at all as shying away from "God talk" so as to differentiate themselves from the right divorces them from a past of social movement sparked by faith and morality. Wallis concludes, and I believe rightfully so, that how aggressively secular the Left is leaves those who are religious progressives without a home.”

A more contemporary religious progressive voice is Rev. William Barber II
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Release International prayers for Algeria and Iran.

13 December 2025 – Algeria​

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Pray that Christian children and youth in Algeria will have opportunities to remain in their country and to grow and develop in their faith without persecution or discrimination.

12 December 2025 – Algeria​

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Pray for freedom of conscience and religious belief for all Algerians, not only in law but also in their minds, hearts, homes and communities. May God’s people have courage to stand up for the truth in this challenging period.

11 December 2025 – Algeria​

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Please pray for God’s protection and care for Algerian Christians such as our partner, pastor ‘Yuba’, and his wife and children, who take great risks to stay in Algeria and continue ministering.

10 December 2025 – Algeria​

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Pray for wisdom, courage and grace for church leaders as they continue to struggle for legal recognition, freedom and rights for Christians and churches within Algeria. Pray for an end to the relentless hounding of the church by the authorities.

09 December 2025 – Algeria​

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Pray for the ongoing court cases involving pastors and other church leaders who have been prosecuted simply for their Christian ministry. May those who have been convicted see their sentences overturned on appeal at the Supreme Court.

08 December 2025 – Algeria​

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Please pray for the re-opening of the more than 45 Algerian Protestant churches that have been closed by the Government.

07 December 2025 – Iran​

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Pray for work translating the Bible into the many ethnic-minority languages of Iran. In a closed country with no physical churches and where even home groups can be at risk, a believer’s Bible – especially in their indigenous language – is vital.

LXX vs MT time in Egypt

The 430 vs 215 years in Egypt question comes down to how Exodus 12:40–41 is read and which textual tradition you follow, and it also ties directly into Paul’s statement in Galatians 3:17.


I’ll lay it out cleanly and chronologically.




1. The Two Positions​


Option A: 430 years in Egypt


View: Israel lived in Egypt for the full 430 years.


Text used:
Masoretic Text (MT)
– Exodus 12:40


“Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years.”

Implication:


  • Jacob enters Egypt → 430 years later → Exodus
  • This requires very compressed genealogies (e.g., Levi → Kohath → Amram → Moses covering 430 years)



Option B: 215 years in Egypt


View: The 430 years covers the entire period from Abraham to the Exodus, not Egypt alone.
Actual time in Egypt = 215 years.


Texts used:


  • Septuagint (LXX) – Exodus 12:40
  • Samaritan Pentateuch
  • Paul (Galatians 3:17)

LXX reads:


“The sojourning of the children of Israel, which they sojourned in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan, was four hundred and thirty years.”



2. Paul Settles the Timeline (Galatians 3:17)​


Paul says:


“The law, which came four hundred and thirty years after, does not annul the covenant previously confirmed by God.”

This refers to:


  • Covenant with Abraham → 430 years → Law at Sinai

That cannot fit 430 years only in Egypt, because:


  • Abraham lived long before Jacob entered Egypt
  • Isaac and Jacob are clearly inside the 430-year span Paul is counting

Therefore, Paul assumes 430 years total, not Egypt-only.




3. Chronological Breakdown (215-year Egypt model)​


Using Genesis data:


EventYears
Abraham enters Canaan (age 75)Year 0
Isaac born (Gen 21:5)+25
Jacob born (Isaac age 60)+60
Jacob enters Egypt (age 130)+130
Total before Egypt215 years
Time in Egypt215 years
Total to Exodus430 years

This matches:


  • Paul
  • LXX
  • Samaritan Pentateuch
  • Normal human lifespans
  • Uncompressed genealogies



4. Genealogical Evidence​


Levi → Moses line:​


  • Levi
  • Kohath
  • Amram
  • Moses

Even with maximum lifespans, these cannot span 430 years naturally.
They fit perfectly into ~215 years.




5. Why the Masoretic Text Reads Differently​


The MT:


  • Omits “and in the land of Canaan
  • Likely reflects later rabbinic tradition
  • Creates tension with:
    • Paul
    • Genesis chronology
    • Genealogies

Notably:


  • All pre-Christian witnesses (LXX, Samaritan) preserve the longer reading.



6. Conclusion​


Biblically and chronologically:


  • 430 years = from Abraham’s covenant to the Exodus
  • 215 years = actual time Israel lived in Egypt

This is:


  • The view assumed by Paul
  • The view preserved in the LXX
  • The only view that harmonizes Genesis, Exodus, and Galatians

1. Anchor Date: The Exodus​


Using the biblical internal chronology (1 Kings 6:1):


Exodus → 480 years → 4th year of Solomon

Solomon’s 4th year is widely dated to 966 BC.


So:


  • Exodus = 1446 BC

(This is the standard early-Exodus date used in conservative biblical chronology.)




2. Abraham to the Exodus (430 years total)​


Paul (Gal 3:17) places 430 years from the Abrahamic covenant to the Law at Sinai.


So:


  • Abraham enters Canaan (Gen 12) = 1876 BC
  • Exodus = 1446 BC

1876 − 1446 = 430 years



Anchor​


  • Exodus: 1446 BC

Abraham​


  • Abraham enters Canaan (age 75): 1446 + 430 = 1876 BC
  • Abraham born (75 years earlier): 1876 + 75 = 1951 BC

Isaac​


  • Isaac born (Abraham age 100): 1876 + 25 = 1851 BC

Jacob​


  • Jacob born (Isaac age 60): 1851 + 60 = 1791 BC

Jacob enters Egypt​


  • Jacob enters Egypt (age 130): 1791 + 130 = 1661 BC

Time in Egypt​


  • Israel enters Egypt: 1661 BC
  • Exodus: 1446 BC
  • Time in Egypt: 1661 − 1446 = 215 years

So the corrected statement is:


215 years in Egypt = 1661 BC to 1446 BC,

Who was Josephus ?

When it says Jewish it means Judean living in Judah/Judea or of the religion of the Judeans. Also the word Judaism (Judeanism) appears zero times in his complete works. Josephus likely was not Christian so was synagogue of satan religion.

Flavius Josephus (c. AD 37 – c. 100) was a Jewish priest, general, historian, and later a Roman citizen whose writings are among the most important sources for Second Temple Judaism and the world of the New Testament.


Early life (c. AD 37–66)​

  • Born Yosef ben Mattityahu in Jerusalem to a priestly (Hasmonean-linked) family.
  • Educated in Jewish law and traditions; claims familiarity with Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes.
  • By his mid-20s he was recognized for learning and sent on an embassy to Rome (c. AD 64), gaining exposure to imperial power.

The Jewish War & turning point (AD 66–70)​

  • At the outbreak of the First Jewish–Roman War, Josephus was appointed commander in Galilee.
  • After the fall of Jotapata, he surrendered to Roman general Vespasian.
  • Josephus famously predicted Vespasian’s rise to emperor. When this came true (AD 69), Josephus was spared, freed, and adopted the Roman family name Flavius.

Life in Rome (after AD 70)​

  • Lived under Flavian patronage (Vespasian, Titus, Domitian).
  • Received a pension, Roman citizenship, and access to archives.
  • Devoted himself to writing history to explain Jewish affairs to Greco-Roman readers and to defend Judaism against slander.

Major works​

  1. The Jewish War(c. AD 75)
    • An eyewitness-style account of the revolt and the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple (AD 70).
  2. Antiquities of the Jews(c. AD 93/94)
    • A sweeping history from Creation to AD 66.
    • Contains the famous passages about John the Baptist, James the brother of Jesus, and the debated Testimonium Flavianum concerning Jesus.
  3. Against Apion
    • A defense of Judaism against Greek critics; argues for the antiquity and reasonableness of Jewish law and Scripture.
  4. Life (Vita)
    • An autobiographical defense of his conduct, especially in Galilee.

Beliefs & reputation​

  • Identified with Pharisaic interpretations, yet wrote in a way accessible to Greeks and Romans.
  • Controversial figure: viewed by some Jews as a traitor, by others as a survivor-historian whose works preserved invaluable information.
  • For Christians, Josephus is crucial as a non-Christian witness to first-century Judaism and figures mentioned in the New Testament.

Death & legacy​

  • Died in Rome around AD 100.
  • His writings shape modern understanding of:
    • Second Temple Judaism
    • The background of Jesus and early Christianity
    • The Jewish–Roman War and the fall of Jerusalem

If you’d like, I can walk through Josephus’s references to Jesus and James line by line, or compare his chronology with the Gospels and Acts, or assess how later Christian scribes handled his text.

All this books are free audiobook on youtube or e books online or physical books are sold online.
Here is a clear chronological timeline of the Judean–Roman Wars, consistently using “Judean” rather than “Jewish,” and keeping close to ancient historical framing (Josephus, Roman historians, later sources).


Background (before AD 66)

  • 63 BC – Pompey the Great captures Jerusalem; Judea becomes a Roman client state.
  • 37–4 BC – Reign of Herod the Great (Roman-backed king).
  • AD 6 – Judea becomes a Roman province under direct rule; census of Quirinius sparks unrest.
  • AD 40s–60s – Growing tension: taxation, Roman governors, priestly disputes, sectarian conflict, and messianic expectations.

First Judean–Roman War (AD 66–73)

(Also called the Great Revolt)

Outbreak

  • AD 66
    • Revolt begins in Jerusalem after abuses by the Roman procurator Gessius Florus.
    • Judeans defeat Roman forces at Beth Horon.
    • Roman legate Cestius Gallus retreats in defeat.

Roman counteroffensive

  • AD 67
    • Vespasian and his son Titus invade Judea.
    • Galilee falls (including Jotapata).
    • Josephus is captured.
  • AD 68
    • Romans consolidate control of Judea outside Jerusalem.
    • Roman civil war begins after Nero’s death.

Fall of Jerusalem

  • AD 69
    • Vespasian becomes emperor.
    • Titus takes command of the Judean campaign.
  • AD 70
    • Siege and destruction of Jerusalem.
    • Second Temple destroyed (month of Av).
    • Massive loss of life; captives taken to Rome.

Final resistance

  • AD 73
    • Masada falls to Roman forces.
    • End of the First Judean–Roman War.
Below is a chronological timeline of the Zealot movement, beginning in AD 6, using ancient categories and sources (Josephus foremost). I’ll distinguish Zealots proper from the closely related Sicarii, since Josephus sometimes separates them.




Origins (AD 6–30)


AD 6


  • Census of Quirinius when Judea becomes a Roman province.
  • Judas the Galilean and Zadok the Pharisee lead resistance.
  • Josephus calls this the “Fourth Philosophy” (besides Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes).
  • Core ideology formed:
    • God alone is ruler
    • No tribute to Rome
    • Death preferable to slavery
  • This is the birth of the Zealot ideology, though not yet a mass movement.

AD 6–30


  • Movement survives underground.
  • Periodic unrest and sporadic violence.
  • Leaders and followers are executed or dispersed.
  • Ideology continues to spread quietly, especially in Galilee and Judea.



Radicalization (AD 30–50)


AD 30s


  • Roman crucifixions increase.
  • Banditry (lēstai in Josephus) becomes more frequent — often ideological rather than criminal.
  • Zealot ideas blend with messianic expectations.

AD 40s


  • Sons and followers of Judas the Galilean continue agitation.
  • Roman procurators respond harshly.
  • Seeds of organized revolt are forming, but no unified command yet.



Rise of the Sicarii (AD 50–66)


Early AD 50s


  • Emergence of the Sicarii (“dagger-men”).
  • Assassinate collaborators in public places, especially Jerusalem festivals.
  • Josephus treats them as an extreme wing of the Zealot cause.

AD 52–60


  • Sicarii active under procurators Felix and Festus.
  • High priests, elites, and Roman sympathizers targeted.
  • Popular fear spreads in Jerusalem.



Open Revolt & Zealot Rule (AD 66–70)


AD 66


  • Outbreak of the First Judean–Roman War.
  • Zealots seize Jerusalem.
  • Roman garrison massacred.
  • Temple authorities overthrown.

AD 67


  • Zealot factions dominate Jerusalem.
  • Moderate Judean leaders executed.
  • Internal violence increases.
  • John of Gischala emerges as a major Zealot leader.

AD 68


  • Zealots and Sicarii intensify terror.
  • High priesthood corrupted and politicized.
  • Civil war inside Jerusalem between rival Zealot factions.

AD 69


  • Simon bar Giora enters Jerusalem with his own armed followers.
  • Three-way civil war inside the city:
    • John of Gischala
    • Simon bar Giora
    • Eleazar ben Simon
  • Temple precinct becomes a battlefield.

AD 70


  • Roman siege under Titus.
  • Zealot infighting continues during the siege.
  • Second Temple destroyed.
  • Zealot leadership annihilated or captured.
  • Simon bar Giora paraded and executed in Rome.



Final Resistance (AD 70–73)


AD 70–73


  • Remaining Sicarii retreat to Masada.
  • Conduct raids on nearby Judean settlements.
  • Roman siege under Flavius Silva.

AD 73


  • Fall of Masada.
  • Mass death of defenders (as reported by Josephus).
  • End of organized Zealot resistance.



Aftermath & Legacy


Post-AD 73


  • Zealot movement ceases as an organized force.
  • Roman repression eliminates ideological militancy in Judea.
  • Memory of the Zealots preserved largely through Josephus, often negatively.
  • Later rabbinic tradition views Zealot extremism as contributing to the Temple’s destruction.



Summary Timeline (Compressed)


  • AD 6 – Judas the Galilean; Zealot ideology founded
  • AD 6–50 – Underground resistance
  • AD 50s – Sicarii assassinations
  • AD 66 – Revolt begins; Zealots seize Jerusalem
  • AD 67–69 – Zealot rule and civil war
  • AD 70 – Jerusalem and Temple destroyed
  • AD 73 – Masada falls; movement ends


Judean Zealot Sects around AD 70

By the time of the siege of Jerusalem, the “Zealots” were not a single unified group, but multiple militant sects and warbands, often violently opposed to one another.


1. The Zealots Proper (Temple Zealots)

Identity

  • Core ideological heirs of Judas the Galilean (AD 6).
  • Saw themselves as guardians of God’s kingship.
  • Centered on Jerusalem and the Temple.
  • Claimed legitimacy through zeal for the Law (qanah).

Beliefs

  • God alone is ruler; no foreign lord may reign.
  • Armed resistance is a religious duty.
  • Death preferable to submission.
  • Temple purity more important than political compromise.

Base

  • Temple precincts (inner courts).
  • Jerusalem aristocracy purged.

Leader

Eleazar ben Simon

  • Son of Simon (possibly Simon the Zealot mentioned earlier by Josephus).
  • Controlled the inner Temple.
  • Zealously guarded sacrifices and access.
  • Eventually fought other Zealot factions inside the Temple itself.

Fate

  • Crushed during Roman siege.
  • Temple burned while they still occupied it.

2. John of Gischala’s Zealot Faction

Identity

  • Militarized Galilean Zealot group.
  • Less priestly, more political and opportunistic.
  • Used Zealot ideology but sought personal dominance.

Beliefs

  • Zeal for freedom, but flexible with violence.
  • Willing to manipulate Temple institutions.
  • Less concerned with ritual purity than power.

Base

  • Originally Galilee.
  • Later controlled much of Jerusalem, including outer Temple courts.

Leader

John of Gischala

  • Charismatic, ruthless, highly intelligent.
  • Former Galilean commander.
  • Rival of Josephus.
  • Entered Jerusalem under pretense of defending the city.
  • Controlled large armed forces and supplies.

Actions

  • Fought Eleazar ben Simon.
  • Burned rival food stores, worsening famine.
  • Eventually fought Simon bar Giora.

Fate

  • Captured alive by Romans.
  • Imprisoned for life.

3. Simon bar Giora’s Movement

Identity

  • A mass-based revolutionary warlord, not a Temple priest.
  • Represented rural and lower-class Judeans.
  • Closest to a popular messianic kingship model.

Beliefs

  • Judea must be freed entirely.
  • Strong anti-elite and anti-aristocracy stance.
  • More openly royalist/messianic in tone.

Base

  • Countryside of Judea.
  • Later controlled Upper City of Jerusalem.

Leader

Simon bar Giora

  • Towering physical presence (per Josephus).
  • Styled himself as king.
  • Issued orders like a sovereign ruler.
  • Wore royal garments during final defense.

Actions

  • Brought tens of thousands into Jerusalem.
  • Fought both John of Gischala and Eleazar ben Simon.
  • Controlled executions and food distribution.

Fate

  • Captured after Jerusalem fell.
  • Paraded in Titus’ triumph in Rome.
  • Executed publicly.

4. The Sicarii (Extreme Zealots)

Identity

  • Most radical Zealot sect.
  • Named after the sica (dagger).
  • Specialized in assassination and terror.

Beliefs

  • Total rejection of compromise.
  • Willing to kill Judeans viewed as collaborators.
  • Hostile even to other Zealots.

Base

  • Initially Jerusalem crowds.
  • Later Masada.

Leader

Eleazar ben Jair

  • Descendant of Judas the Galilean.
  • Ideological purist.
  • Rejected alliances with other Judean factions.

Actions

  • Public assassinations during festivals.
  • Kidnappings and forced allegiance.
  • After AD 70, raided Judean villages.

Fate

  • Last stand at Masada (AD 73).
  • Mass death of defenders ends Sicarii resistance.

5. Zealot-aligned Prophets & Messianic Figures

Identity

  • Not formal commanders.
  • Charismatic religious leaders.
  • Promised divine intervention.

Beliefs

  • God would intervene visibly.
  • Signs and wonders imminent.
  • Jerusalem would not fall.

Role

  • Encouraged resistance during siege.
  • Led crowds into fatal confrontations.
  • Undermined rational defense.

Josephus’ View

  • Sees them as false prophets, but admits their influence was enormous.

Internal Conflict (Critical Factor)

By AD 69–70, Jerusalem was divided:

FactionTerritory
Eleazar ben SimonInner Temple
John of GischalaOuter Temple & city
Simon bar GioraUpper City
  • Civil war during siege
  • Food stores destroyed
  • Thousands killed by fellow Judeans
  • Romans exploited divisions
Josephus explicitly states more Judeans died by Judean hands than Roman ones during this phase.

Strange dream I had

I had a dream or vision where I saw a demon or fallen angel that was attacking me get bound and then chained in this bottomless pit place. In this bottomless pit place there was a hole without end and fire and the monster was bound with great chains. It went from looking like a familiar person when it was attacking and oppressing me to a hidious reptilian creature when it was bound. I had been praying to the Lord to deliver me from oppression in my waking life and then had this dream the following night. The monster was so afraid looking and it was terrified when it was being bound. I never saw who was defeating the monster I only saw snapshots and the after affects but it was as real as my waking life. I don't know why I always have had these vivid dreams but this is the first time I have ever prayed the day before I went to sleep and this happened that I can remember. Usually they are completely random. I don't like talking about this kind of thing but this was very unusual and I wonder if the Lord was revealing how he answers our prayers and defeats the enemy regarding spiritual warfare?
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