Western culture sustainibility

[trophy33]

In a general sense:

Is a forced over representation of various minorities and the public celebration and support of unhealthy and non working lifestyles an indication that such a society/country is becoming ineffective and decadent and will be conquered/replaced by another one?

We can also add single parent homes, sensitive men crying and concentrating on their feelings, the epidemic of obesity, minimal birth rate, gender quotas, whatever you see as a part of the decadence or of the ineffectivity.

Or, can it still maintain its political, economic, military and democratic strength for a long time (two, three or more generations)?

Discuss.

 

[HTacianas]

In a general sense:

Is a forced over representation of various minorities and the public celebration and support of unhealthy and non working lifestyles an indication that such a society/country is becoming ineffective and decadent and will be conquered/replaced by another one?

We can also add single parent homes, sensitive men crying and concentrating on their feelings, the epidemic of obesity, minimal birth rate, gender quotas, whatever you see as a part of the decadence or of the ineffectivity.

Or, can it still maintain its political, economic, military and democratic strength for a long time (two, three or more generations)?

Discuss.

Western culture is destroying itself from the inside. There is a full-on onslaught against all Western institutions. The idea seems to be that if all of Western society is destroyed it can be replaced with something else. The problem is that it will cause so much damage that the "something else" it is replaced with won't be able to hold it together. And those who would have fought militarily in support of Western culture will no longer be willing to all the while the ones destroying it are unwilling to fight for it either.

 

[Sheila Davis]

In a general sense:

Is a forced over representation of various minorities and the public celebration and support of unhealthy and non working lifestyles an indication that such a society/country is becoming ineffective and decadent and will be conquered/replaced by another one?

We can also add single parent homes, sensitive men crying and concentrating on their feelings, the epidemic of obesity, minimal birth rate, gender quotas, whatever you see as a part of the decadence or of the ineffectivity.

Or, can it still maintain its political, economic, military and democratic strength for a long time (two, three or more generations)?

Discuss.

Yes it could maintain it's political, economic, military, and democratic strength for two, three, or more generations. Even with all the inner problems between the peoples - they come together as a whole when the country is threatened.
The Western culture became a superpower less than a hundred years ago as a result of wars between 1898 and 1945 - as it stands now no Nation will go up against it outright.

Solomon said there is nothing new up under the sun - everything that is happening now has happened before.

Now

I have heard some say Babylon spoken of in Revelation relates to the Western culture.
There are some that believe the Western culture is the last beast that rose to power in the book of Revelation that gave rise to the Antichrist. If there were to be a cultural change or conquering to a supposedly more effective way - this may occur

Is America Mentioned in Bible Prophecy? - Hartland Institute

 

[Jesse Dornfeld]

Rome collapsed. Why would the USA be any different? History repeats itself. When objective truth is assaulted and discarded as nothing more than rags used to check the oil in your car, it does not appear that such a society can really hold on for much longer.

But our hope is not in political systems or any nation. We are exiles in this world. We were gifted with religious liberty for quite a while, but when you need to convince someone that truth even exists, it is a sign of a sick society.

 

[trophy33]

Western culture is destroying itself from the inside. There is a full-on onslaught against all Western institutions. The idea seems to be that if all of Western society is destroyed it can be replaced with something else. The problem is that it will cause so much damage that the "something else" it is replaced with won't be able to hold it together. And those who would have fought militarily in support of Western culture will no longer be willing to all the while the ones destroying it are unwilling to fight for it either.

I think that the replacement can be also gradual, like for example a mass immigration from other parts of the world.

 

[trophy33]

they come together as a whole when the country is threatened.

Some people think so... that when in a war, society cleans itself from ineffective things and concentrates on survival, i.e. on things that are true and working.

The problem comes when the outside shell of the society is still strong enough (army), but its inside is rotting. So no "correctional" smaller war comes and the society deteriorates till the outside strength diminish.

as it stands now no Nation will go up against it outright.

Many nations start to bite their pieces here and there. Russia, China... But I agree that in this decade the West will still be strong enough.

 

[inquiring mind]

Two hundred and fifty years of American fortitude, and in two years time... toast.

 

[Estrid]

In a general sense:

Is a forced over representation of various minorities and the public celebration and support of unhealthy and non working lifestyles an indication that such a society/country is becoming ineffective and decadent and will be conquered/replaced by another one?

We can also add single parent homes, sensitive men crying and concentrating on their feelings, the epidemic of obesity, minimal birth rate, gender quotas, whatever you see as a part of the decadence or of the ineffectivity.

Or, can it still maintain its political, economic, military and democratic strength for a long time (two, three or more generations)?

Discuss.

Unhealthy, decadent, not working?

Why not come right out and say SINFUL?

 

[Matt5]

In a general sense:

Is a forced over representation of various minorities and the public celebration and support of unhealthy and non working lifestyles an indication that such a society/country is becoming ineffective and decadent and will be conquered/replaced by another one?

We can also add single parent homes, sensitive men crying and concentrating on their feelings, the epidemic of obesity, minimal birth rate, gender quotas, whatever you see as a part of the decadence or of the ineffectivity.

Or, can it still maintain its political, economic, military and democratic strength for a long time (two, three or more generations)?

Discuss.

The clock is ticking.

The Coming War Over Taiwan - WSJ

Medvedev: NATO's involvement in Russia-Ukraine conflict brings risk of 'full-fledged nuclear war' | Fox News

 

[Sparagmos]

Western culture is destroying itself from the inside. There is a full-on onslaught against all Western institutions. The idea seems to be that if all of Western society is destroyed it can be replaced with something else. The problem is that it will cause so much damage that the "something else" it is replaced with won't be able to hold it together. And those who would have fought militarily in support of Western culture will no longer be willing to all the while the ones destroying it are unwilling to fight for it either.

Are the things that OP describes not part of western culture? They certainly aren’t more pronounced in eastern culture.

 

[Larniavc]

In a general sense:

Is a forced over representation of various minorities and the public celebration and support of unhealthy and non working lifestyles an indication that such a society/country is becoming ineffective and decadent and will be conquered/replaced by another one?

We can also add single parent homes, sensitive men crying and concentrating on their feelings, the epidemic of obesity, minimal birth rate, gender quotas, whatever you see as a part of the decadence or of the ineffectivity.

Or, can it still maintain its political, economic, military and democratic strength for a long time (two, three or more generations)?

Discuss.

I think the change is great.

The old, repressive, abusive to minorities, white, Christian, patriarchal society has got us to where we are now with a dying planet, wealth inequalities, science denial and fear of change.

It’s about time we got rid of it.

 

[Jesse Dornfeld]

wealth inequalities,

The poor will always exist.

 

[trophy33]

I think the change is great.

The old, repressive, abusive to minorities, white, Christian, patriarchal society has got us to where we are now with a dying planet, wealth inequalities, science denial and fear of change.

It’s about time we got rid of it.

I did not mean this thread to be about whether we like this change more or less than what was before, but more about the sustainability and survivability of the modern decadent West when other powerful and traditional nations are arising on the world's scene.

BTW, whites are a minority, considered the world. They originated in Europe, which is a very small continent compared to Africa, Asia, South America etc.

 

[Larniavc]

The poor will always exist.

They don’t need to. With a universal basic income problem is solved.

 

[Larniavc]

I did not mean this thread to be about whether we like this change more or less than what was before, but more about the sustainability and survivability of the modern decadent West when other powerful and traditional nations are arising on the world's scene.

BTW, whites are a minority, considered the world. They originated in Europe, which is a very small continent compared to Africa, Asia, South America etc.

It’ll survive. Not in it’s current state but it’s current stat is broken.

Whites may be the minority but thanks to the British Empire we have made an oversized impact on the world and left a legacy of racism and inequality of opportunity.

 

[trophy33]

Unhealthy, decadent, not working?

Why not come right out and say SINFUL?

Because not everything that is unhealthy or not working is automatically sinful. Saying "sinful" would exclude some properties I deem important, regarding the context. Like ineffectiveness.

Sinful, meaning immoral.

 

[Jesse Dornfeld]

They don’t need to. With a universal basic income problem is solved.

Politics is not the answer to the world's problems, Christ is.

Matthew 26:11 NAS20
““For you always have the poor with you; but you do not always have Me.””

 

[trophy33]

...and left a legacy of racism and inequality of opportunity.

Its a very one-sided view.

BTW, most white nations had no exotic colonies, ever.

 

[Estrid]

Because not everything that is unhealthy or not working is automatically sinful. Saying "sinful" would exclude some properties I deem important, regarding the context. Like ineffectiveness.

Sinful, meaning immoral.

" Sin" seemed like your focus.

What do you mean " ineffective"? Odd word choice imo.

 

[Estrid]

Its a very one-sided view.

BTW, most white nations had no exotic colonies, ever.

I grew up in a British colony.

One sided view?
It was a one sided situation.
Nobody invited the British to come
halfway around the world with their
cannons and narcotics, then keep killing
people until they were able to take control
of a strategic piece of Chinese territory.

Given their control of the sea, tough for
other euro countries to get in on it though
Portugal, Spain France Italy German Belgium
Denmark managed anyway.
Likewise the USA.

ETA Russia and the Netherlands