The history of how Sunday worship came about.

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Yes, its all just quotes, cause the witnesses of the early church are not around, but check your history its clear what they dd. But lets go to the Roman Catholic Church and see what they say....

"Question:​

Until recently, I always thought Catholics worshiped on the Sabbath, and that the early Church moved the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. Is this true?

Answer:​

This is a common misunderstanding. Catholics do not worship on the Sabbath, which according to Jewish law is the last day of the week (Saturday), when God rested from all the work he had done in creation (Gen. 2:2-3). Catholics worship on the Lord’s Day, the first day of the week (Sunday, the eighth day); the day when God said “Let there be light” (Gen. 1:3); the day when Christ rose from the dead; the day when the Holy Spirit came upon the Apostles (Day of Pentecost). The Catechism of the Catholic Church says: “The Church celebrates the day of Christ’s Resurrection on the ‘eighth day,’ Sunday, which is rightly called the Lord’s Day” (CCC 2191).
The early Church did not move the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. Instead “The Sabbath, which represented the completion of the first creation, has been replaced by Sunday, which recalls the new creation inaugurated by the Resurrection of Christ” (CCC 2190). Sunday is the day Catholics are bound to keep, not Saturday."

Did the Early Church Move the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday?

Some people believe that Catholics worship on the Sabbath, but the early Church moved the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. Is this true? Find out here.

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"Q. Why do some religions say that the Sabbath day is Saturday while others — including Catholics — say it’s on Sunday? (Eldon, Missouri)

A. No, Catholics do not say that the Sabbath is on Sunday. The Sabbath is on Saturday, as it was in the Old Testament when God rested from all the work he had done in creation (Gn 2:2-3) and as it is observed by Jews today.

Christians, though, celebrate Sunday instead, because that is the day on which Jesus rose from the dead and the day on which the Holy Spirit came upon the apostles.

As the Catechism of the Catholic Church explains: “Sunday is expressly distinguished from the Sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the Sabbath. In Christ’s Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish Sabbath and announces man’s eternal rest in God” (No. 2175).".... The Sabbath: Saturday or Sunday?/ Catholic view of 'the rapture' - Catholic Review

"And claiming authority over it

It is true that the Catholic Church through the authority of Christ replaced the Hebrew Sabbath (Saturday) with the Lord's Day (Sunday); however, this occurred very early - well before the time of Emperor Constantine in the fourth century. For Christians two important events happened on Sunday. First, the Resurrection of Christ occurred on Easter Sunday (John 20:1ff). Secondly, the Holy Spirit descended upon the Church on Pentecost Sunday (Acts 2:1ff). Also after His Resurrection, Jesus appeared to the Apostles twice, each on Sunday (John 20:19 & 26). As a result, Sunday became known as the Lord's Day for Christians." .... The Sabbath or the Lord's Day

"Why does the Catholic Church claim to have changed the Sabbath commandment from Saturday to Sunday?
In the Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, we read:

Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.

Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
Answer: We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea, (336 A.D.) transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.

Question: Why did the Catholic Church substitute Sunday for Saturday?
Answer: The Church substituted Sunday for Saturday, because Christ rose from the dead on [Easter] Sunday, and the Holy Ghost descended upon the Apostles on a [Pentecost] Sunday.

Question: By what authority did the Church substitute Sunday for Saturday?
Answer: The Church substituted Sunday for Saturday by the plenitude of that divine power which Jesus Christ bestowed upon Her!"... Why does the Catholic Church claim to have changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday?

You can check all the Catholic sites, and its much the same, so need to honestly address what Catholics themselves claim and believe rather than try to refute history which is quite clear...

Yes, there are lots of quotes from the Catholic Church claiming they changed the Sabbath and not by biblical authority and even admit for protestants who claim scripture only, but still keep Sunday instead of the Sabbath is following a commandment of the Catholic Church (not the commandment of God). The change in God’s Sabbath was predicted in scripture and not on the authority of God. Daniel 7:25

It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.
—Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903.

Q. Have you any other proofs that they(Protestants) are not guided by the Scripture?
A. Yes; so many, that we cannot admit more than a mere specimen into this small work. They reject much that is clearly contained in Scripture, and profess more that is nowhere discoverable in that Divine Book.
Q. Give some examples of both?
A. They should, if the Scripture were their only rule, wash the feet of one another, according to the command of Christ, in the 13th chap. of St. John; —they should keep, not the Sunday, but the Saturday, according to the commandment, "Remember thou keep holy the SABBATH-day;" for this commandment has not, in Scripture, been changed or abrogated;...
—Rev. Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism; New York in 1857, page 101 Imprimatuer


Q. Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
A. Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her; —she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.
—Rev. Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism; New York in 1857, page 174


This is what God said about adding or subtracting from His commandments:

Deut 4:2 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

God’s unedited version of His commandments are found in Exodus 20- these are His works alone Exodus 32:16 written by His own finger Exodus 31:18 and we are told to not add to His Word Proverbs 30:5-6, Deut 4:2

 

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Now it wasnt just the day and the church governance that was changed but the form with the rites and rituals of the old Roman religion brought in, and idols renamed or 'Christianized" so the masses could continue with what they were familiar with. Here is a excellent explanation better than anything I can say....

"THE EARLIEST Roman religion of which we have any record was a system of pandemonism. There was a
spirit a demon it was often called in every object, every act, every process and sometimes in every stage of a process....

But the evidence of this particularistic character of Roman religion is not confined to these lists of obscure spirits. The gods of the
Roman pantheon in general even the greatest of them showed, in their origin at least, a high degree of specialization. In some cases
the original function of the divinity expanded in different directions but in others the early specialization maintained its old limits. Janus
was the god of the door, Vesta of the hearth, Faunus of the forest, Pales of pasture land, Fons of springs, Volturnus of running streams,
Saturn of sowing, Ceres of growth, Flora of blossom, Pomona of fruit, and Consus of harvest. Even the great god Jupiter, manifold
as his powers subsequently became, was at first only the spirit of the bright sky....

It pervaded the whole religious system. Its persistence, either with or without modification, in the case of the well-known
gods of Rome is too familiar a fact to require comment....
So much for the pandemonism of the ancient Romans. Enough has been said to show how deeply rooted in their minds this attitude
toward supernatural powers was. It was one of the most important phases of their religious consciousness and was to such an extent of the very essence of their faith that it was bound to survive. And survive it did. For though there is a notable difference in the character of the supernatural beings that in the fourth century succeeded to the multitudinous functions of the old departmental spirits, there is little or no change In the attitude of mind....

AND it is in the doctrine of the veneration of Saints that the polytheism of the old depart- mental deities survives. It may be that the
founders of Christianity found that the belief of the people especially the Illiterate class in these specialized spirits of minor grade was one
of their greatest problems. They recognized the people's predilection for spirits that would help in specific situations, and they realized
also that the masses felt more at home with beings who, while of divine nature or associations, were not too far removed from the human
level. They were keenly interested in winning the pagans to the faith and they succeeded. But undoubtedly one element in their success
was the inclusion in their system of the doctrine of the veneration of Saints. They seem to have felt that in order to make any headway
at all, it was necessary for them to match the swarms of spirits available for the pagans with a multitude of wonder-working saints and martyrs. How far they were prepared to go is indicated by their favorable attitude toward the pagan veneration of Virgil that amounted al-
most to deification. Apparently most of the churchmen of the period of the conflict of religions proclaimed the greatness of Virgil and
placed him almost on a level with the biblical prophets. They sought evidence of the truth of Christianity in pagan literature and insisted
that Virgil had prophesied the coming of Christ. Everyone is familiar with the mass of literature that has grown up around the so-
called Messianic Eclogue. Not only Virgil was glorified but also the pagan Sibyls who were thought to have inspired his words. The Sibyls
too were given a place beside the Old Testament prophets. ..

There have been many discussions of the relation of the doctrine of the veneration of Saints to various phases of Roman religion,
ranging from the notably temperate treatment of Lucius 5 to the more positive statements of Renan 6 and Harnack 7 and the uncompro-
mising assertions of Trede, 8 " P. Saintyves " 9 and Salomon Reinach. 10 Renan for example says that any peasant who prays to a particu-
lar saint for a cure for his horse or ox or drops a coin into the box of a miraculous chapel is in that act pagan. He is responding to the
prompting of a religious feeling that is older than Christianity and so deep-set that Christianity has not been able to root it out. Har-
nack sees in the veneration of Saints nothing but a recrudescence of pagan polytheism.

The term " veneration of Saints " has been used advisedly. For in any fair discussion of this subject it should be remembered that the
Church has never taught the worship of Saints. Every enlightened churchman knows this, but whether the peasants of southern Italy and
other parts of Europe distinguish with any degree of precision between veneration and worship is another question.....
A good example of the closeness of the resemblance of the specialization of function of different Saints to that of pagan spirits is found
in the published lists of Saints used by Spanish peasants. The very publication of the list emphasizes the similarity of the situation to that
which existed in ancient Roman times, when the people, overwhelmed by the number and multiplicity of names of the departmental
deities, used to appeal to the official list kept by the pontiffs.

Here are some of the examples furnished by the Spanish index: San Serapio should be appealed to in case of stomache-ache;
Santa Polonia for toothache; San Jose, San Juan Bautista and Santa Catalina for headache;
San Bernardo and San Cirilo for indigestion; San Luis for cholera; San Francisco for colic;
San Ignacio and Santa Lutgarda for childbirth; Santa Balsania for scrofula; SanFelix for ulcers;
Santa Agueda for nursing mothers; San Babilas for burns; San Gorge for an infected cut; Santa Quiteria for dog's bite;

San Ciriaco for diseases of the ear; Santa Lucia for the eyes; Santa Bibiana for epilepsy; San Gregorio for frost-bite;
San Pantaleon for haemorrhoids; San Roque for the plague; Santa Dorothea for rheumatism; SanPedro for fever;
and Santa Rita for the impossible !

There is a similar list for southern Italy, the Saints and their functions sometimes coinciding with the Spanish classification but in other
cases showing variations. San Roque for example is associated with cases of plague in Italian legends 1X just as in Spain. To the
Italians also the intercession of Santa Lucia is efficacious for sore eyes. San Giuseppe, however, to south Italians seems to be connected
with the interpretation of dreams. Giuseppe had interpreted dreams to Pharaoh during his life time, and it was believed that he retained
his interest in them after death. "......
SURVIVALS OF ROMAN RELIGION BY GORDON J. LAING
Professor of Latin The University of Chicago

 

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So while the Catholic Church can 'categorically deny' that it ever gave the 'Saints' to the people to worship or pray to and say it was 'veneration', the pagan masses were drawn in by their use, and what they had always done. So the 'spirits' became the 'Saints' to watch over them and to give their prayers directly to them. They could go on believing in the power of the dead of the ancient beliefs now set up as 'Saints' in the church, to help them in their troubles as they had done before. Some of the early Christians protested against the this 'veneration' of the Saints which was essentially the continuation of the old Roman religion, but their attempts were swept by the influx of the pagan masses.

Now looking at the 'veneration' and the festivals which came in, there are some specific festivals that go back directly to pagan customs connected with the dead. All Saints' Day, was observed on the the Roman festival of the dead, the Lemuria. In the modern festival the faithful visit the tombs of the Saints, venerate their relics, and pray for their blessing. The next day also, the second of November, All Souls' Day, unquestionably reproduces some of the features of the Parentalia.

"Parentalia, Roman religious festival held in honour of the dead. The festival, which began at noon on February 13 and culminated on February 21, was essentially a private celebration of the rites of deceased family members. It was gradually extended, however, to incorporate the dead in general. During the days of the festival, all temples were closed and no weddings could be performed. On the last day a public ceremony, the Feralia, was held, during which offerings and gifts were placed at the graves and the anniversary of the funeral feast was celebrated." ... Parentalia | Roman religious festival

So we see how this nine day festival held to honor the dead ancestors with visits to tombs and sacred offerings, got into the church, and 'Christians' then went to the cemeteries and decked the graves of the members of their family with flowers and candles. So it was not long that there were ceremonies which took the place of the ancient 'veneration', for the 'souls of the departed'.

We find even more on All Saints Day...
Catholic scholars themselves admit that the day they call "All Saints' Day" was not observed by early Christians, but was a later addition:

ALL SAINTS. As early as the fourth century, the Greeks kept on the first Sunday after Pentecost the feast of all martyrs and saints, and we still possess a sermon of St. Chrysostom de-livered on that day.

In the West, the feast was introduced by Pope Boniface the Fourth after he had dedicated, as the Church of the Blessed Virgin and the Martyrs, the Pantheon, which had been made over to him by the Emperor Phocas. The feast of the dedication was kept on the thirteenth of May. About 731 Gregory III. consecrated a chapel in St. Peter's Church in honour of all the saints, from which time All Saints' Day has been kept in Rome, as now, on the first of November. From about the middle of the ninth century, the feast came into general observance throughout the West. (Addis W, Arnold T. Catholic Dictionary, 6th ed. The Catholic Publication Society Co, 1887. Nihil Obstat. EDUARDUS S. KEOGH, CONG. ORAT., Censor Deputatu Imprimatur. HENRICUS EDUARDUS, CARD. ARCHIEP. WESTMONAST. Die 18 Dec., 1883. Imprimatur. John Card. McCloskey, Archbishop of New York. Feb. 14, 1884. Copyright, Lawrence Kehoe, 1884/1887. p20).

All Saints' Day

In the fourth century, neighbouring dioceses began to interchange feasts, to transfer relics, to divide them, and to join in a common feast; as is shown by the invitation of St. Basil of Caesarea (397) to the bishops of the province of Pontus. Frequently groups of martyrs suffered on the same day, which naturally led to a joint commemoration. In the persecution of Diocletian the number of martyrs became so great that a separate day could not be assigned to each. But the Church, feeling that every martyr should be venerated, appointed a common day for all. The first trace of this we find in Antioch on the Sunday after Pentecost. We also find mention of a common day in a sermon of St. Ephrem the Syrian (373), and in the 74th homily of St. John Chrysostom (407). (Mershman, Francis. "All Saints' Day." The Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 1. Nihil Obstat. March 1, 1907. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor. Imprimatur. +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York. New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1907. 11 Aug. 2013 <CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: All Saints' Day>)...

Here is information on when and how people keep All Saints Day:

All Saints' Day

All Saints' Day is a celebration of all Christian saints, particularly those who have no special feast days of their own, in many Roman Catholic, Anglican and Protestant churches. In many western churches it is annually held November 1 and in many eastern churches it is celebrated on the first Sunday after Pentecost. It is also known as All Hallows Tide, All-Hallomas, or All Hallows' Day.

What Do People Do?

All Saints' Day is observed by Christians in many countries around the world. In countries such as Spain, Portugal and Mexico, offerings are made on this day. In countries such as Belgium, Hungary and Italy people bring flowers to the graves of dead relatives. In other parts of Europe, such as Austria, Croatia, Poland, and Romania, it is customary to light candles on top of visiting graves of deceased relatives. It is also observed in parts of Asia, such as the Philippines, where people visit graves of deceased relatives and clean or repair them. They also lay flowers on the graves and light candles. All Saints' Day accessed 10/01/19

Prayers for to the dead saints are often given then....

Catholic scholars also reported:

All Saints' Day is a solemn holy day of the Catholic Church celebrated annually on November 1. The day is dedicated to the saints of the Church, that is, all those who have attained heaven. It should not be confused with All Souls' Day, which is observed on November 2, and is dedicated to those who have died and not yet reached heaven.

Although millions, or even billions of people may already be saints, All Saints' Day observances tend to focus on known saints --that is those recognized in the canon of the saints by the Catholic Church.

All Saints' Day is also commemorated by members of the Eastern Orthodox Church as well as some protestant churches, such as Anglican, Lutheran and Anglican churches.

Generally, All Saints' Day is a Catholic Holy Day of Obligation, meaning all Catholics are required to attend Mass on that day, unless they have an excellent excuse, such as serious illness.

Today, All Saints' Day is still a holy day of obligation, but only when it falls on a Sunday. Other countries have different rules according to their national bishop's conferences. The bishops of each conference have the authority to amend the rules surrounding the obligation of the day. (All Saints' Day. CatholicOnline. All Saints' Day - Saints & Angels - Catholic Online accessed 10/23/15)

It is considered a day of obligation by the Church of Rome, but it is not a biblical holy day.

The Pantheon was originally a pagan shrine for multiple gods and was turned into a Catholic shrine for multiple "saints."

Pantheon of Rome: A Symbol of Unity Among Confusion

How All Saints' Day actually became a universal holiday shows another type of pagan connection:

All Saints' Day ... It was first celebrated on May 13, A.D. 610, as the Feast of All Holy Martyrs, when the Emperor Phocas gave the ancient Pantheon to Pope Boniface IV as a church (All Saints' Day. World Book, vol 1. Chicago, 1966: 354).

The Romans built the Pantheon as a temple in honor of all their gods. The name means of all the gods ... Agrippa first built the famous Pantheon in Rome in 27 B.C. (Pantheon. World Book, vol 15. Chicago, 1966: 111).

Druid ... priests worshiped some gods similar to those of the Greeks and Romans, but under different names (Druid. World Book, vol 5. Chicago, 1966: 289).

Of course, some feel that although the Druids worshiped the pagan deities under different names that is wrong, yet they accepted the change of the names of the "gods" in the Pantheon to the "Catholic saints" as perfectly acceptable.

Here is a bit more on how and why the Pantheon became acceptable to the Roman Catholics:

In 607 A.D. the Roman Emperor Phocus defeated the Barbarians who were in control of Rome. The Pantheon in Rome, a pagan edifice which had been wrested from the barbarians, was given to pope Boniface IV. Originally ... the Pantheon -- ... dedicated it to the pagan goddess Cybele and to the other Roman deities. This temple became the central place in Rome where the pagans honored and commemorated their gods. With this splendid edifice now falling into the hands of professing Christians, the question was, What should be done with it?

The pagans had dedicated it to Cybele and all their gods. But the Roman bishop now CONSECRATED IT TO THE VIRGIN MARY AND ALL THE SAINTS of both sexes (see "The Mysteries of All Nations", Grant, p. 120). Thus this pagan building became "holy." No more did the pagan Romans use this edifice to pray for their dead. It was now the professing Christians who employed the Pantheon in praying for their dead.

This re-dedication of the pagan temple to Mary and others occurred in 610 A.D. Now converted into a Christian shrine, an annual festival was instituted to commemorate the event. The day chosen was May 13.

This May 13 commemoration of the dead saints was known by the name of "All Saints Day." It continued to be held in May for over two centuries -- until 834 A.D. In that year the NAME and the DATE WERE CHANGED.

Notice! "The time of celebration was altered to the FIRST OF NOVEMBER, and it was then called ALL HALLOW" -- from where we get the name Hallowe'en, ALL HALLOW merely meaning ALL HOLY, and the "een" is a contraction of evening ("Folklore", James Napier, p. 177).

Thus in 834 A.D. the Church in the Middle Ages began to celebrate Hallowe'en on the FIRST OF NOVEMBER for the first time. This was the very same day the Druids in Britain, the Norsemen in Scandinavia, and the pagan Germans among others were keeping their festival of ALL SOULS EVE, in commemoration of Saman, lord of death, and his demons (Marx, Gerhard O. The Origin of Halloween. Plain Truth Magazine, October 1967).....

When the German Frankish king Charlemagne invaded and conquered parts of Eastern Germany, he compelled the conquered German king, Wittekind, to be baptized and to accept Christianity. Having no choice and seeing his life was at stake, this heathen ruler who knew little or nothing about Christ -- was forced into this "conversion." And with him his entire people. This policy brought complex problems. These pagans, who were usually baptized EN MASSE, were still pagans at heart. Even though they became nominal Christians, they still yearned for many of their heathen practices, which they were expected to discard...

Wittekind's Germans, now professing Christians, and other conquered pagans, had a profound influence on the ecclesiastical affairs of the church in the early 800's A. D. These barbaric and uncultured people brought with them many outright pagan practices and celebrations, Hallowe'en merely being one of many. They were fervent in clinging to their past ceremonies and observed them openly -- yet supposedly converted to Christianity. What was the church to do? Excommunicate them and thus reduce her membership? This she would not do. Was she to force them into discarding their heathen practices and adopt Italian or Roman ones? This, as she had learned in past times, was not possible.

There remained only one other way. Let the recently converted pagans keep certain of their heathen festivals, such as Hallowe'en or All Souls Day -- but label it "Christian." Of course the Germans were asked not to pray to their ancient pagan gods on this day. They must now use this day to commemorate the death of the saints. To make it easy for them, the Roman Church even CHANGED HER DATE of All Saints Day from May 13 to November 1st to satisfy the growing numbers of Germanic adherents. The Church understood the yearnings the Germans and others had for their old ways (Marx, Gerhard O. The Origin of Halloween. Plain Truth Magazine, October 1967).

Since the date was not original, and was even changed, All Saints' Day obviously never was an original apostolic practice.....

All Saints' Day is a souvenir of paganism, and it is sad that more and more Protestants are embracing it. The Bible warns about Mystery Babylon the Great, the mother of abominations (Revelation 17:5) and Protestants who understand their history realize that they consider the Church of Rome as their ancestor....

Did early Christians believe that they should pray to the dead for intercession for the lives, salvation, or their vocations?

No.

Here is some of what The Catholic Encyclopedia reports about this:

The Communion of Saints

(communo sanctorum, a fellowship of, or with, the saints).

The doctrine expressed in the second clause of the ninth article in the received text of the Apostles’ Creed: “I believe . . . the Holy Catholic Church, the Communion of Saints”. This, probably the latest, addition to the old Roman Symbol is found in:

the Gallican Liturgy of the seventh century (P.L., LXXII, 349, 597);
in some letters of the Pseudo-Augustine (P.L., XXXIX, 2189, 2191, 2194), now credited to St. Caesarius of Arles (c. 543);
in the “De Spiritu Sancto” (P.L., LXII, 11), ascribed to Faustus of Riez (c. 460);
in the “Explanatio Symboli” (P.L., LII, 871) of Nicetas of Remesiana (c. 400); and
in two documents of uncertain date, the “Fides Hieronymi”, and an Armenian confession. …

The communion of saints is the spiritual solidarity which binds together the faithful on earth, the souls in purgatory, and the saints in heaven in the organic unity of the same mystical body under Christ its head, and in a constant interchange of supernatural offices. The participants in that solidarity are called saints by reason of their destination and of their partaking of the fruits of the Redemption (1 Corinthians 1:2 — Greek Text). The damned are thus excluded from the communion of saints. The living, even if they do not belong to the body of the true Church, share in it according to the measure of their union with Christ and with the soul of the Church. St. Thomas teaches (III:8:4) that the angels, though not redeemed, enter the communion of saints because they come under Christ’s power and receive of His gratia capitis. The solidarity itself implies a variety of inter-relations: within the Church Militant, not only the participation in the same faith, sacraments, and government, but also a mutual exchange of examples, prayers, merits, and satisfactions; between the Church on earth on the one hand, and purgatory and heaven on the other, suffrages, invocation, intercession, veneration. These connotations belong here only in so far as they integrate the transcendent idea of spiritual solidarity between all the children of God. Thus understood, the communion of saints, though formally defined only in its particular bearings (Council of Trent, Sess. XXV, decrees on purgatory; on the invocation, veneration, and relics of saints and of sacred images; on indulgences), is, nevertheless, dogma commonly taught and accepted in the Church. …

But the complete presentation of the dogma comes from the later Fathers. After the statements of Tertullian, speaking of “common hope, fear, joy, sorrow, and suffering” (On Penance 9-10); of St. Cyprian, explicitly setting forth the communion of merits (De lapsis 17); of St. Hilary, giving the Eucharistic Communion as a means and symbol of the communion of saints (in Psalm 64:14), we come to the teaching of Ambrose and St. Augustine. (Sollier, Joseph. “The Communion of Saints.” The Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 4. New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1908)

So, from the above we see that the late second century writer Tertullian may have hinted about it, but that the earliest clear reference comes from Cyprian (who was a Greco-Roman bishop of Carthage in the mid-3rd century). Augustine promoted it.

Thus, this ‘dogma’ was not an original Christian practice."...https://www.cogwriter.com/all-saints-day-of-the-dead.htm

 

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Now the festival of 'Easter' which the apostate church used to shift the worship from Sabbath to Sunday is much more documented but was done basically in 'plain sight' but slowly and incrementally so they could get away with it. Here is a good breakdown..
"In addition, we are informed, “Neither the apostles, therefore, nor the Gospels, have anywhere imposed... Easter... The Savior and His apostles have enjoined us by no law to keep this feast [Easter]... And that the observance originated not by legislation [of the apostles], but as a custom the facts themselves indicate” (fourth century scholar, Socrates Scholasticus, Ecclesiastical History, Book V, chapter 22). The Apostle Paul confirms he maintained the customary observance of Passover, as was given to him by Christ Himself, when he said, “For I received of the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed [not Easter Sunday!] took bread” (1 Corinthians 11:23). Keep in mind Jesus Christ was betrayed during the night of Nisan 14 (Luke 22:15-22), which was considered the evening portion of the day of Passover (Exodus 12:6-13). Remember, God begins a new day at evening, commencing at sunset (Genesis 1:5). With this established fact and connection in mind, how then was it changed from the 14th of Nisan (Passover) to the Sunday following the first full moon after the vernal equinox, and then assigned the pagan name Easter (Ishtarte)? Unquestionably, this is no minor change from the original observance that Jesus Christ exemplified (especially since people died refusing to obey this change). And furthermore, to supersede the authority of Jesus’ own example is obviously presumptuous at best; and at worst, it is outright heretical! How could such a blatant act of contradiction and disregard for our Lord’s example and commands be allowed to take place? This is a question all of us should seriously ask ourselves!

Assuredly, we must first understand the contention between the Western congregations led by Rome and the Eastern Asiatic congregations. This debate intensified during the second century, and is historically known as the Quartodeciman controversy.

“Quartodeciman” is simply a Latin term indicating fourteenth. What the ecclesiastical record of the second century reveals is that there was a controversy over the fourteenth— specifically, it concerned the change from the fourteenth of Nisan (Passover) to Easter, with all of its pagan connections, associations, and typologies of fertility and fecundity. This was unequivocally contested and rejected by the congregations of the Asiatic East. It came to a head when Polycarp, the bishop of Smyrna (who was personally taught by John the apostle), faced off with Anicetus, the preeminent bishop of Rome, in about 95 A.D.

Notice what history tells us from the Catholic Church itself, concerning this second century controversy: “The dioceses of all Asia, as from the older tradition [Passover], held that the fourteenth day of the moon, on which day the Jews were commanded to sacrifice the lamb, should always be observed as the feast of the life-giving Pasch Passover]... However, it was not the custom of the churches in the rest of the world [primarily the West, represented by Rome] to end it at this point [allegedly a non-biblical based fast ending on Easter Sunday], as they observed the practice, which from apostolic tradition has prevailed to the present time... Synods and assemblies of bishops [not Jesus Christ’s example or the Gospel records!] were held on this account and all with one consent through mutual correspondence drew up an ecclesiastical decree [superseding Christ’s personal example as recorded in the Gospels] that the mystery of the resurrection of the Lord should be celebrated on no other day but, the Sunday [Easter] and that we should observe the close of the paschal fast on that day only. A letter of Saint Irenaeus is among the extracts just referred to, and this shows that the diversity of practice regarding Easter had existed at least from the time of Pope Sixtus. Further, Irenaeus states that St. Polycarp [bishop of Smyrna], who like the other Asiatics, kept Easter on the fourteenth day of the moon [which is really the Passover], whatever day of the week that might be, following therein the tradition which he [Polycarp] claimed to have derived from St. John the Apostle, but could not be persuaded by Pope Anicetus to relinquish his Quartodecimen observance. The question thus debated was therefore primarily whether Easter was to be kept on a Sunday, or whether Christians should observe the holyday of the Jews... Those who kept Easter [Passover] with the Jews were called Quartodecimans” (Catholic Encyclopedia, emphasis added).

Clearly, the historical record from the Catholic Church proves that they themselves (not Jesus Christ) chose to exercise authority to change and sever the connection of Passover. Undoubtedly, there was a long-term agenda to shift and undermine any and all associations connecting Jewish Israeli underpinnings that were foundational to the early Christian Church. Remember, Paul said, the household of God (the Church) is “built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets [not Synods, Councils, and bishops], Jesus Christ himself being the chief comer stone” (Ephesians 2:20). There was absolutely no authorization to change the framework of this major point of doctrine, disconnecting from Jesus Christ’s own appearance of worship exemplified by His life, habits, and customs (1 Peter 2:21; 1 John 2:6). It is important we remember: Jesus Christ never kept an Easter in His life! Unequivocally, it is undeniable that Easter has no Biblical connection, foundation, or authority on the name of Jesus Christ that requires observance and/or recognition by any who claim Christ as their Savior.

Yet, regardless of these verifiable facts; this trend finally became law in the year A.D. 325 at the Council of Nicaea. Again notice, from the Catholic Encyclopedia: “The emperor himself [Constantine] writing to the churches after the council of Nicaea, exhorts, ‘At this meeting the question concerning the most holy day of Easter was discussed, and it was resolved by the united judgment of all present [regardless of the example/commands of Jesus Christ and the original apostolic fathers, Matthew 26:17-30] that this feast ought to be kept by all and in every place on one and the same day [Easter Sunday]...And first of all it appeared an unworthy thing that in the celebration of this most holy feast we should follow the practice of the Jews, who have impiously defiled their hand with enormous sin... for we have received from our Savior a different way [Where, then, is the Biblical proof or Christological authorization?] ...and I myself [Constantine] have undertaken that this decision should meet with the approval of your sagacity in the hope that your wisdoms will gladly admit that practice which is observed [Easter Sunday] at once in the city of Rome and in Africa, throughout Italy and Egypt... with entire unity of judgement.”

And finally, under the article “Councils” in the Catholic Encyclopedia again, we read about the purpose of the Council of Nicaea. ‘The first ecumenical, or council, of Nicaea (325 A.D.) lasted two months and twelve days. Three hundred and eighteen bishops were present. Hosius, bishop of Cordova, assisted as legate of Pope Sylvester. The Emperor, Constantine, was also present. To this council we owe the Creed of Nicaea, defining against Arius the true divinity of the Son of God [Arius challenged the divinity of Jesus Christ], and the fixing of the date for keeping Easter [which opposed the Quartodecimans who observed Passover]

It was now made “official”: Easter Sunday, the day after the first full moon, after the spring equinox, became the day to celebrate Jesus Christ’s resurrection. This was a serious and critical shift of theology. Critical, because it not only changed the day of the observance, but changed the focus, the meaning of the observance. It now became an observance and celebration of His resurrection, contrary to the Biblical admonition of remembering His death!

Notice what Paul says, “For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death [not His resurrection] till he come” (1 Corinthians 11:26). There is a purposeful point of significance our Lord placed exclusively on Passover concerning His death. It’s very fundamental, but crucial to understand; Passover was intended to distinctly address the impeccable fact that it was by Jesus Christ’s sacrificed life and shed blood that we have access to eternal life. Unfortunately, merging His death and resurrection into one holy day, as Easter describes, blurs the deep profound meaning of both these events by taking away the emphasis that each so richly deserves." HOW WAS PASSOVER REPLACED BY EASTER… And Who Did It? — The Church of God International

 

[reddogs]

Now the fact that Sabbath was supplanted by the church at Rome and even the anti-Judaism stirred up by Jewish revolts is well known and documented, and the claim that came out that it was from the 'resurrection', one but has to look....
"The author of the "Epistle of Barnabas" adduces the occurrence of the Resurrection on the first day as the reason for the observance of this "true day" (xv.). In the meantime the attitude of the Roman authorities had become intermittently hostile to the Jews; and after the rebellion under Hadrian it became a matter of vital importance for such as were not Jews to avoid exposing themselves to suspicion (Huidekoper, "Judaism at Rome"). The observance of the Sabbath was one of the most noticeable indications of Judaism. Hence, while in the first Christian century more or less regard and tolerance for the Jewish day were shown in Rome, even by non-Jewish Christians, in the second century the contrary became the rule (Justin Martyr, "Dial. cum Tryph." ii., § 28). In the East, however, less opposition was shown to Jewish institutions. Saturday and Sunday both were celebrated by "abstaining from fasting and by standing while praying" (Rheinwald, "Archäologie," § 62), In the West, especially where Roman influence dominated, Saturday was turned into a fast-day (Huidekoper, ib. pp. 343-344). The name "Sunday" is used for the first time by Justin Martyr ("Apologies," i. 67) in accommodation to a Roman nomenclature, but with reference to the circumstances that the light was created on the first day (noticed also in the Midrash; Gen. R. iii.: "ten crowns adorned the first day") and that the "light of the world" rose from the night of the grave on the first day of the week. The Christians, accordingly, were obliged to defend themselves against the charge of worshiping the sun (Tertullian, "Apologeticus," xvi.). The celebration of two days (by the Judæo-Christians?) is attested by Eusebius ("Hist. Eccl." iii. 37) and by the "Apostolic Constitutions," which advise the keeping of Saturday as a memorial of the Creation, and of Sunday, the Lord's day, in memory of the Resurrection (ii. 59).

Originally, then, Sunday and Sabbath were kept sharply distinct. But, like the Jewish Sabbath, Sunday was deemed not merely a holiday, but a holy day, and hence fasting thereon was interdicted (Tertullian, "De Corona Militis," § 3). Ease of mind (ευφροσύνη, which corresponds to "naḥat ruaḥ"; "Epistle of Barnabas," l.c.) was the proper condition for the day. One should not kneel at prayer (Irenæus, "Fragm. de Paschate"; "Apostolic Constitutions," l.c.); the standing posture, being at first a protest against mourning and ascetic rites (such as were forbidden on the Jewish Sabbath), came to be explained as suggestive of the Resurrection.".... SABBATH AND SUNDAY - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Some try to say it was changed by the disciples or their actions or the resurrection, but Sunday has nothing even after the resurrection as the disciples continued with the Sabbath as it was before and Christ tells it it would continue so you have to really bend scripture to fit Sunday as the day of worship. It isnt there.......

Here is a good explanation by by Kenneth A. Strand in The Sabbath in Scripture and History:

"...The word Sunday is not found in the Bible. In the New Testament the first day of the week is mentioned eight times. In none of the eight instances is the first day said to be a day of worship, never is it said to be the Christian substitute for the Old Testament Sabbath, and never do the texts suggest that the first day of the week should be regarded as a memorial of Christ's resurrection. Let us briefly consider each of the eight New Testament passages that mention the first day of the week.

Matthew 28:1, "After the sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb. And suddenly there was a great earthquake. . . ." Jesus was crucified on Friday. He rested in the tomb over the Sabbath and rose early on Sunday morning. The verse indicates that the women disciples returned to the tomb at the very first opportunity after the death and burial of Jesus. Because the Sabbath came so soon after His burial, they could not approach the tomb again until after sundown on Sabbath evening. (The Sabbath began at sundown on the sixth day and ended at sundown on the seventh day; compare Lev. 23:32; Neh. 13:19; Mark 1:21, 32) Early Sunday morning was the most convenient time for them to visit the tomb.

Mark 16:1, 2, "When the sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him. And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb."Mark records the same events as Matthew with the additional information that the women visited the tomb early on the Sunday morning for the express purpose of anointing Jesus' body with spices.

Mark 16:9, "Now after he rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons."This verse simply records that, after His resurrection early on the Sunday morning, Jesus appeared to Mary Magdalene.

Luke 23:54 24:1, "It [the day of Jesus' death and burial] was the day of Preparation, and the sabbath was beginning. The women who had come with him from Galilee followed, and they saw the tomb and how his body was laid. Then they returned, and prepared spices and ointments. On the sabbath they rested according to the commandment. But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, taking the spices that they had prepared." The Sabbath came a few hours after Jesus' death on the cross. The women disciples "rested the sabbath day according to the commandment" (Luke 23:56, KJV). Then very early in the morning of the first day they visited the tomb to anoint the body of Jesus. The fact that they observed the Sabbath rest is sufficient indication that Jesus had never attempted to change the day or to suggest that after His death the first day would replace the Sabbath. Writing years after the event, Luke gave not the slightest hint that, even though the women disciples of Jesus observed the Sabbath, such a practice was no longer expected of Christians. He simply recorded that the Sabbath day "according to the commandment," which Jesus' followers were careful to observe, was the day after the crucifixion day (Friday), and before the resurrection day (Sunday).

John 20:1, "Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene came to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb."Mary Magdalene visited the tomb early the first day of the week. Nothing is said of Sunday as a day of worship or rest.

John 20:19, "When it was evening on that day, the first day of the week, and the doors of the house where the disciples had met were locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, 'Peace be with you.'" On the evening of the first day of the week the disciples were assembled behind locked doors "for fear of the Jews." Jesus appeared to them at that time. The passage does not say that henceforth Sunday was to be the day for worship. Since it was the evening of the first day of the week that Jesus appeared to the disciples, it was after sundown. According to Jewish reckoning this was actually the beginning of the second day (Monday; compare Gen. 1:5, 8 ). A week later when Thomas happened to be present, Jesus met with the disciples again (verse 26). But, writing years later, John records nothing regarding Sunday as a day of Christian worship. John's narrative gives no warrant for regarding Sunday as a substitute for the Sabbath or as a day to be distinguished by Christians above any other day of the week. And there is no indication in the passage that Sunday should henceforth be observed as a memorial of Christ's resurrection.

Acts 20:7, "On the first day of the week, when we met to break bread, Paul was holding a discussion with them; since he intended to leave the next day, he continued speaking until midnight."Since the meeting was held at night on the first day of the week, it may have been Saturday night. According to Jewish reckoning, the Sabbath ended and the first day of the week began at sundown of the seventh day. If it were Sunday evening, the event gives no suggestion that Sunday should be observed as a day of worship. The following verses record that Paul preached a sermon on Thursday. The next day after the meeting recorded in Acts 20:7 (Monday), Paul and his party set sail for Mitylene (Acts 20:13, 14). The following day (Tuesday) they arrived opposite Chios (verse 15). The next day (Wednesday) they passed Samos (verse 15), and the day after that (Thursday) they arrived at Miletus (verse 15). The elders of the church of Ephesus met Paul at Miletus, and he preached to them (Acts 20:16-36). Because a Christian service was held on Thursday, do we conclude that Thursday is a day for regular Christian worship replacing the observance of the seventh-day Sabbath? A religious service on Sunday, Thursday, or any other day certainly did not make that day a replacement for the seventh-day Sabbath or a day of regular Christian worship and rest. There is no special significance in the disciples breaking bread at this first-day meeting, for they broke bread "daily" (Acts 2:46). We are not told that it was a Lord's Supper celebration, nor are we told that henceforth Sunday should be the day for this service to be conducted. To read Sunday sacredness or Sunday observance into Acts 20:7 is to do violence to the text.

1 Corinthians 16:1, 2, "Now concerning the collection for the saints: you should follow the directions I gave the churches of Galatia. On the first day of every week, each of you is to put aside and save whatever extra you earn, so that collections need not be taken when I come. And when I arrive, I will send any whom you approve with letters to take your gift to Jerusalem." These verses may be literally translated from the Greek as follows: "And concerning the collection for the saints, as I instructed the churches of Galatia, so also you do. On the first day of the week let each of you place (or 'lay') by himself, storing up whatever he might be prospered, so that when I come there might be no collections." (Italics supplied.) The phrase "by himself" (par' heauto), followed by the participle "storing up" or "saving" (thesaupizon), rules out the possibility that this is a reference to an offering taken up in a worship service. The Christian believer was to check his accounts on Sunday and put by at home the money that he wished to give to Paul for the support of the church. When Paul arrived, then the offerings of each individual would be collected.

None of these eight New Testament references to the first day of the week (Sunday), provides any evidence that Jesus or His disciples changed the day of worship from the seventh to the first day. Nor is the first day of the week represented as a time to memorialize the resurrection of Christ. Whatever special significance was given to Sunday in the later history of the church, it had no basis in the teaching or practice of Jesus and His apostles.

As pointed out in the previous chapter, Jesus instructed His disciples to observe the Sabbath after His death (Matt. 24:20). Jesus' instruction was incorporated into His interpretation of Daniel 8 (compare Matthew 24:15 ff.). Daniel predicted that the work of the little horn power would continue until the setting up of God's kingdom (Dan. 8:25). Hence, Jesus' instruction to flee from the little horn power was not confined to Christians at the time of the destruction of Jerusalem (A.D. 70). Toward the end of time, during the great tribulation of Matthew 24:21, of which earlier tribulations were a type or preview, God's people will be obliged to flee again. Jesus' instruction that we pray that our flight will not be on the Sabbath day emphasizes His will that we engage in only those activities on the Sabbath that are consistent with worship and spiritual rest.

The record of the book of Acts (chapters 13, 1618) establishes that the apostles consistently kept the Sabbath day as a time for worship and fellowship. This observance was not merely a means of meeting the Jews in the synagogue on their Sabbath day. In Philippi, Paul and his companions met for worship by the riverside. Luke says, "On the sabbath day we went outside the gate to the riverside, where we supposed [or "thought" or "assumed" : Greek nomizo] there was a place for prayer. . . ." (Acts 16:13). The apostles selected a place by the river that they thought would be appropriate for their Sabbath worship service, and there they prayed and witnessed for their Lord."... https://www.andrews.edu/library/car/cardigital/Periodicals/AUSS/1983-2/1983-2-10.pdf

Jesus and the apostles kept the seventh-day Sabbath and instructed others to do likewise, so it wasn't changed by them....."

 

[reddogs]

Now in addition to changing the Sabbath to what the masses had celebrated as a pagan festival day, many of the old Roman gods from pagan times started to be brought into the church. Here are a few of the pagan gods and how they were renamed to let their worship continue:

Demeter is a goddess of many festivals but most important, the Thesmophoria, which fell in late October. She became St. Demetrios, a masculine warrior saint, whose fd. is 10/26.

Aphrodite became St. Aphrodite, of which there are several, all with saints' tales that tell how she became a "repentant harlot."

Nike was picked up as Saint Nicholas, who was extremely popular wherever shipping was important. He is the patron saint of Russian, Holland and Germany, all on the north sea coast.

The Roman god Mars was originally a god who guarded wheat fields. He became St. Martin (esp. St. Martin-in-the-fields). Although March is the month associated with Mars (it was the beginning of the military campaigning season in Roman times), the major festival for him in Christian times now usually falls in February, called Mardi Gras "Great Mars."

The Roman god Quirinus became St. Cyrinus, of which there are various "equestrian warrior saints" such as St. Cyr in France, and St. Quirina, mother of St. Lawrence. The element quir- means (or was understood to mean) `horse.' These saints were very popular and widely worshiped in the Middle-Ages, in France, Holland and also eastern Christian countries.

The Roman gods known as the Lares became St. Lawrence, esp. St. Lawrence beyond-the-wall. The Lares were field gods who protected the grain growing in the fields. In Italian, he became St. Lorenzo beyond the Walls, meaning outside of the walls of the city, for which there is still a church in Rome, with many "daughter" churches which developed from it.

The Roman goddess Venus became St. Venera (with a feminized ending to her name since -us looks like a masculine ending in Latin). She had a major church in Rome in early Christian times, but that didn't last long.

The Roman gods known as the Gemini, who were protectors of sailors in Roman pagan times, became the Sanctos Geminos, with a number of forms in the various Christian religions. Santiago de Compostela, (St. James in English) became the protector of pilgrims during the Middle Ages. Forms of St. James all seem to be christianized from various forms of the Proto-Indo-European god *Yama. This god was repeatedly christianized in most of the Indo-European language groups.

The ancient Romans worshiped gods and goddesses involved with every aspect of life. Jupiter, the chief of the gods, was the god of rain and storms, while his wife, Juno, was the goddess of womanhood. Minerva was the goddess of handicrafts and wisdom; Venus, of sexual love and birth; Vesta, of the hearth and sacred fires; Ceres, of farming and harvests.

The Greeks considered Mercury, whom they called Hermes, to be the messenger of the gods, but the Romans worshiped him as the god of trade, with businesspeople celebrating his feast day to increase profits. And there were other popular deities: Mars, god of war; Castor and Pollux, gods of sea travelers; Cronos, the guardian of time; and of course Cupid, god of love, whose magic arrows caused both human beings and immortals to fall in love.

While the Romans would call generically on "the gods," each major deity still had its own cult, and worshippers would pray and conduct religious ceremonies to a specific god or goddess to implore help.

Now lets look at St. Valentine and origins of Valentine's Day:
"The most plausible theory for St. Valentine's Day traces its customs back to the Roman Lupercalia, a feast celebrated in February in honor of the pastoral god Lupercus, a Roman version of the Greek god Pan. The festival was an important one for the Romans and, occurring when it did, naturally had some aspects of a rebirth rite to it" (St. Valentine, Cupid and Jesus Christ by Gary Petty pp. 50-51).

'Saint Brigid' was named after one of the most powerful goddesses of the Pagan religion..Probably the clearest example of the survival of an early goddess into Christian times is Brigid, the great triple goddess of the Celtic Irish. Bridget took religious vows,...and was canonized after her death by her adoptive church, which allowed the saint a curious list of attributes, coincidentally identical to those of the earlier goddess."Exerpt from Goddess & Heroines by Patricia Monaghan

Pagan gods were made Christian saints. Bacchus became St. Bacchus, and Dionysiusbecame St. Denys or Denis."-(Charles G. Berger, Our Phallic Heritage
[NY, NY: Greenwich Book Publishers, Inc., 1966],p. 154-155).

"Semiramis became known as the "queen of heaven," and was the prototype
from which all other pagan goddesses came."--World Religionsby David Terrell

"Nimrod and his mother (Semiramis) became the chief entities of worship
as a Madonna and child. This belief and practice spread to Egypt, where the names of the gods were Isis and Osiris. ....In Rome they were called Fortuna and
Jupiter."--The Bible as Historyby Werner Keller

"The Virgin [Mary] was given the title Queen of Heaven and is depicted wearing
a blue robe decorated with stars and standing on a crescent Moon. This image
is almost identical to pagan representations of the goddess of love Ishtar who was worshipped by the Babylonians."-(Michael Howard, The Occult Conspiracy:
The Power of Secret Societies in World History) Ancient statues of mother and child formerly known as the Pagan gods Isis and Horus became Mary and baby Jesus and the old forms of worship came into the church.

Pagan Gods and Goddesses Worshipped as Christian Saints

St. Valentine, Cupid and Jesus Christ

On February 14 millions of people exchange tokens and messages of love and affection. Where and how did the curious customs of Valentine's Day begin? Does God have anything to say about such practices?

www.ucg.org

https://piereligion.org/pagansaints.html

 

[JSRG]

Now in addition to changing the Sabbath to what the masses had celebrated as a pagan festival day, many of the old Roman gods from pagan times started to be brought into the church. Here are a few of the pagan gods and how they were renamed to let their worship continue:

Demeter is a goddess of many festivals but most important, the Thesmophoria, which fell in late October. She became St. Demetrios, a masculine warrior saint, whose fd. is 10/26.

Aphrodite became St. Aphrodite, of which there are several, all with saints' tales that tell how she became a "repentant harlot."

Nike was picked up as Saint Nicholas, who was extremely popular wherever shipping was important. He is the patron saint of Russian, Holland and Germany, all on the north sea coast.

The Roman god Mars was originally a god who guarded wheat fields. He became St. Martin (esp. St. Martin-in-the-fields). Although March is the month associated with Mars (it was the beginning of the military campaigning season in Roman times), the major festival for him in Christian times now usually falls in February, called Mardi Gras "Great Mars."

The Roman god Quirinus became St. Cyrinus, of which there are various "equestrian warrior saints" such as St. Cyr in France, and St. Quirina, mother of St. Lawrence. The element quir- means (or was understood to mean) `horse.' These saints were very popular and widely worshiped in the Middle-Ages, in France, Holland and also eastern Christian countries.

The Roman gods known as the Lares became St. Lawrence, esp. St. Lawrence beyond-the-wall. The Lares were field gods who protected the grain growing in the fields. In Italian, he became St. Lorenzo beyond the Walls, meaning outside of the walls of the city, for which there is still a church in Rome, with many "daughter" churches which developed from it.

The Roman goddess Venus became St. Venera (with a feminized ending to her name since -us looks like a masculine ending in Latin). She had a major church in Rome in early Christian times, but that didn't last long.

The Roman gods known as the Gemini, who were protectors of sailors in Roman pagan times, became the Sanctos Geminos, with a number of forms in the various Christian religions. Santiago de Compostela, (St. James in English) became the protector of pilgrims during the Middle Ages. Forms of St. James all seem to be christianized from various forms of the Proto-Indo-European god *Yama. This god was repeatedly christianized in most of the Indo-European language groups.

So a bunch of claims just copied from a random website, notably none of it with any proof given at all. The only argument appears to be "well they had similar names, so they must have been taken from the pagan deities!" which is rather weak.

There are, indeed, things that seem to be outright errors. It claims Aphrodite became "St. Aphrodite" and how they were all a "repentant harlot." The only matches could find for a "St. Aphrodite" were this (who was one of forty different virgin martyrs, a far cry from a "repetant harlot") and St. Aphrodosius who was not a "repentant harlot" either, but rather a bishop. If there is some actual St. Aphrodite that can be in any way plausibly linked to the actual Aphrodite, or at the very least was in fact a "repentant harlot", I can't find it offhand.

Also, it's hard to take an something seriously if it's so clueless it claims "Mardi Gras" means "Great Mars." As even the slightest bit of research will instantly show, Mardi Gras is a French term that means Fat Tuesday. If it can't get something as basic as that right, why should I have any confidence in the rest of its claims?

This also seems to be straying rather far from the original subject of this topic, and for that matter the subject of this subforum.

Now lets look at St. Valentine and origins of Valentine's Day:
"The most plausible theory for St. Valentine's Day traces its customs back to the Roman Lupercalia, a feast celebrated in February in honor of the pastoral god Lupercus, a Roman version of the Greek god Pan. The festival was an important one for the Romans and, occurring when it did, naturally had some aspects of a rebirth rite to it" (St. Valentine, Cupid and Jesus Christ by Gary Petty pp. 50-51).

There is no pages 50-51 of "St. Valentine, Cupid, and Jesus Christ by Gary Petty" because it's an online article. The quote comes from that article quoting pages 50-51 of Robert Myers's "Celebrations: The Complete Book of American Holidays" which said article cites several times.

The problem with this claim of the customs of St. Valentine's Day tracing back to Lupercalia is that, as far as I can tell, St. Valentine's Day had no actual connection with romance until the 14th century when Geoffrey Chaucer started advocating it (oddly, Petty's article implicitly admits this, but the problem it has for his thesis is glossed over). It was only after that we started to see the modern-day customs. So even if Valentine's Day customs did have commonalities with Lupercalia (which itself seems dubious, many of the supposed "connections" seem made up and no one has ever been able to point to an actual primary source), there's simply far too great of a gap between them for Lupercalia to be any kind of origin, and is therefore a simple coincidence at most.

Incidentally, there is a response to Gary Petty's article at Is Valentines Day the Lupercalia? (the blog post itself is a general response to claims of Lupercalia/Valentine's Day connection, but there is a direct response to Petty's article in the comments)

'Saint Brigid' was named after one of the most powerful goddesses of the Pagan religion..Probably the clearest example of the survival of an early goddess into Christian times is Brigid, the great triple goddess of the Celtic Irish. Bridget took religious vows,...and was canonized after her death by her adoptive church, which allowed the saint a curious list of attributes, coincidentally identical to those of the earlier goddess."Exerpt from Goddess & Heroines by Patricia Monaghan

Patricia Monaghan wrote several books with "Goddesses and Heroines" in the title (Encyclopedia of Goddesses and Heroines, Book of Goddesses and Heroines, New Book of Goddesses and Heroines). Note that it's Goddesses and Heroines, not Goddess and Heroines. The fact it doesn't tell us the full title, and the fact it gets even the partial title wrong, shows that this citation has not been verified but is simply copied. Still, I did consult Book of Goddesses and Heroines (I don't know if it's in the New Book of Goddesses and Heroines) and it's there--though not the first sentence, which even in the web page you copied this off of did not attribute to the work, but that distinction was removed when you copied it.

Unlike the other ones cited, the possibility of the goddess Brigid having aspects of her transferred to St. Brigid is, while not certain, still highly plausible. Nevertheless, it's not certain. I did find an interesting analysis here. I do note, however, that (from what I can tell) the main sources about the goddess Brigid come from several centuries after the accounts of St. Brigid, making me wonder if any similarities could be explained by going in the other direction, with ideas of St. Brigid being applied to the goddess.

Pagan gods were made Christian saints. Bacchus became St. Bacchus, and Dionysiusbecame St. Denys or Denis."-(Charles G. Berger, Our Phallic Heritage
[NY, NY: Greenwich Book Publishers, Inc., 1966],p. 154-155).

While it is possible more evidence is given in the book cited, as presented here it is simply an assertion without evidence. Apart from the names, there seems to be very little these saints have in common with the deities Bacchus/Dionysus (St. Bacchus was supposedly a Roman soldier who converted to Christianity and then was persecuted and killed when him being a Christian was discovered; this has no relation whatsoever to a god of wine and fertility), and the names can be simply explained by the fact that, yes, sometimes actual people are named after a god or goddess.

"Semiramis became known as the "queen of heaven," and was the prototype
from which all other pagan goddesses came."--World Religionsby David Terrell

First, I find no matches for any "World Religions by David Terrell" in WorldCat, so I am curious as to what this source you are citing is. Can you provide this information for us?

The only David Terrell I can find information on that seems relevant is a tent-revival preacher who apparently turned out to have fathered children with a whole bunch of women other than his wife (at least according to A Prophet and a Liar). If this is the person in question, they hardly seem to be someone worth appealing to with this. If it is a different David Terrell, then who is it and why should I take them seriously?

"Nimrod and his mother (Semiramis) became the chief entities of worship
as a Madonna and child. This belief and practice spread to Egypt, where the names of the gods were Isis and Osiris. ....In Rome they were called Fortuna and
Jupiter."--The Bible as Historyby Werner Keller

One can find this book here:

Bible as history : Keller, Werner : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Book from the Archaeological Survey of IndiaCentral Archaeological Library, New DelhiBook Number: 5155Book Title: Bible as historyBook Author: Keller,...

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A search indicates zero instances of Isis, zero instances of Osiris, zero instances of Fortuna, zero instances of Semiramis, and zero instances of Madonna. A search for Nimrod and Jupiter turn up results, but not in anything resembling the quote. Can you show us where in the book it is?

"The Virgin [Mary] was given the title Queen of Heaven and is depicted wearing
a blue robe decorated with stars and standing on a crescent Moon. This image
is almost identical to pagan representations of the goddess of love Ishtar who was worshipped by the Babylonians."-(Michael Howard, The Occult Conspiracy:
The Power of Secret Societies in World History) Ancient statues of mother and child formerly known as the Pagan gods Isis and Horus became Mary and baby Jesus and the old forms of worship came into the church.

Michael Howard was a "Luciferian", sort of an offshoot of Wicca. I question how good of a source he is. Especially considering the fact hat, if you look at the book, it offers no citation or evidence for this claim.

Pagan Gods and Goddesses Worshipped as Christian Saints

St. Valentine, Cupid and Jesus Christ

On February 14 millions of people exchange tokens and messages of love and affection. Where and how did the curious customs of Valentine's Day begin? Does God have anything to say about such practices?

www.ucg.org

https://piereligion.org/pagansaints.html

While it is good you admit where you're copying things from (though some of the citations you have offered do not seem to be from any of those), these sources are dubious. The first one was done by an anonymous person that's just a bunch of copied and pasted citations (many of very questionable worth). The second at least is by a clear person and offers arguments but they come up rather short and (again, there is a direct response to it in the comments section of Is Valentines Day the Lupercalia? though the main article, while not directly against it, seems to bring up some very valid points). The last one is not even actually online anymore, but I was able to access it via an archive and it appears to be an anonymous website that makes a bunch of claims without offering evidence for it.

 

[reddogs]

Like the saying goes, "a man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still". I would bring up the witnesses to the forefront, but seems like we will have to wait till the resurrection, but then it will be too late for those who fight what is plain as day. Need to open your eyes and see while there is still time...

 

[Der Alte]

It appears to me that a bunch of folks went looking for whatever supports their assumptions/presuppositions.

The First Apology of Justin. [A.D. 110-165.] Chap. LXVII. — Weekly Worship of the Christians.
And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day called Sunday,76 all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. ...
But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration.​

 

[reddogs]

Well, if you look through what they documented in the many parts of history you start to see clear evidence of what they did. Take a look at what Origen, wrote: “But what is the feast of the Sabbath except that of which the apostle speaks, ‘There remaineth, therefore, a Sabbatism,’ that is, the observance of the Sabbath by the people of God? Leaving the Jewish observances of the Sabbath, let us see how the Sabbath ought to be observed by a Christian. On the Sabbath day all worldly labors ought to be abstained from. If, therefore, you cease from all secular works, and execute nothing worldly, but give yourselves up to spiritual exercises, repairing to church, attending to sacred reading and instruction … this is the observance of the Christian Sabbath.” You can see he was referring to the seventh day of the week, and there is more.. The Sabbath in the Record of the Early Fathers

The church at Rome used the Sunday festival and the change of the Passover to 'Easter' to have the pagan masses join the church. But enforced Sunday worship began with the Roman Empire, under Constantine. This can be seen in the A.D. 321 edict forbidding work on “the venerable day of the sun”—Sunday issued by Constantine. In a letter following the Nicene Council of A.D. 325, Constantine spoke of the enforcement of Sunday worship for Easter services: “At this meeting the question concerning the most holy day of Easter was discussed, and it was resolved by the united judgment of all present that this feast ought to be kept by all and in every place on one and the same day.” HOW WAS PASSOVER REPLACED BY EASTER… And Who Did It? — The Church of God International

In other words, Easter was to be kept on Sunday, and the Jewish observance of Passover was expressly forbidden. And to those who ignored the decrees of the Nicene Council, Constantine wrote, in another letter regarding Sabbath worship, “Forasmuch, then, as it is no longer possible to bear with your pernicious errors, we give warning by this present statute that none of you henceforth presume to assemble yourselves together. We have directed, accordingly, that you be deprived of all the houses in which you are accustomed to hold your assemblies: and our care in this respect extends so far as to forbid the holding of your superstitious and senseless meetings, not in public merely, but in any private house or place whatsoever. Let those of you, therefore, who are desirous of embracing the true and pure religion take the far better course of entering the Catholic Church …. [F]rom this day forward none of your unlawful assemblies may presume to appear in any public or private place. Let this edict be made public.”| Philadelphia Church of God

After Constantine gave his edict, worship on any day except Sunday basically became illegal. Then in A.D. 363, the Council of Laodicea pass another law that determined, “Christians must not Judaize by resting on the Sabbath [that is, Saturday], but must work on that day, rather honoring the Lord’s day …. But if any shall be found to be Judaizers, let them be anathema [cursed and excommunicated] from Christ.” Why did the Council of Laodicea condemn "Judaizing" Sabbath rest?

As you can clearly see, there is no question as to who changed the day of worship. It was the Roman Catholic Church, enforced by the Roman Empire.

 

[reddogs]

It appears to me that a bunch of folks went looking for whatever supports their assumptions/presuppositions.

The First Apology of Justin. [A.D. 110-165.] Chap. LXVII. — Weekly Worship of the Christians.​

And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day called Sunday,76 all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. ...​

But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration.​

I think this is more than a "assumption/presupposition" as you can see that the Sabbath was even before the Tablet with the 10 Commandments.

Exodus 16:22-29 King James Version​

22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
23 And he said unto them, This is that which the Lord hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the Lord: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein.
25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the Lord: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
27 And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
28 And the Lord said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
29 See, for that the Lord hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.

 

[Der Alte]

I think this is more than a "assumption/presupposition" as you can see that the Sabbath was even before the Tablet with the 10 Commandments.
Exodus 16:22-29 King James Version
22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
23 And he said unto them, This is that which the Lord hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the Lord: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein.
25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the Lord: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
27 And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
28 And the Lord said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
29 See, for that the Lord hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.

You ignored the bulk of my post and lecture me about three words from my post. I am well aware of what the O.T. says about the Sabbath and everything else.
The Sabbath was given exclusively to the Children of Israel as a perpetual, everlasting covenant.

Exodus 31:16
(16) Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Leviticus 24:8
(8) Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.​

Please show me, in the New Testament, where gentile Christians are commanded to observe the 7th day Sabbath? Since there is no such command, how would former pagan Christians in Rome, Corinth, Galatia, Ephesus, Philippi, Colossae, the seven cities in Rev. etc. know about the Sabbath with no command to do so in the N.T?
From the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia

Gentiles May Not Be Taught the Torah
Inasmuch as the Jews had their own distinct jurisdiction, it would have been unwise to reveal their laws to the Gentiles, for such knowledge might have operated against the Jews in their opponents' courts. Hence the Talmud prohibited the teaching to a Gentile of the Torah, "the inheritance of the congregation of Jacob" (Deut. xxxiii. 4). R. Johanan says of one so teaching: "Such a person deserves death"

GENTILE - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Complete contents the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia.

jewishencyclopedia.com

 

[reddogs]

You ignored the bulk of my post and lecture me about three words from my post. I am well aware of what the O.T. says about the Sabbath and everything else.
The Sabbath was given exclusively to the Children of Israel as a perpetual, everlasting covenant.

Exodus 31:16​

(16) Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.​

Leviticus 24:8​

(8) Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.​

Please show me, in the New Testament, where gentile Christians are commanded to observe the 7th day Sabbath? Since there is no such command, how would former pagan Christians in Rome, Corinth, Galatia, Ephesus, Philippi, Colossae, the seven cities in Rev. etc. know about the Sabbath with no command to do so in the N.T?
From the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia

Gentiles May Not Be Taught the Torah​

Inasmuch as the Jews had their own distinct jurisdiction, it would have been unwise to reveal their laws to the Gentiles, for such knowledge might have operated against the Jews in their opponents' courts. Hence the Talmud prohibited the teaching to a Gentile of the Torah, "the inheritance of the congregation of Jacob" (Deut. xxxiii. 4). R. Johanan says of one so teaching: "Such a person deserves death"​

GENTILE - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Complete contents the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia.

jewishencyclopedia.com

​

Well, since it appears you ignore the history and factual evidence clearly showing that nowhere is the first day given as holy or sanctified for a day of worship to the Lord in the scripture, not much to go over. But we find from their writings the Catholics make it clear it was done on their own authority..

"Perhaps the boldest thing, the most revolutionary change the Church ever did, happened in the first century. The holy day, the Sabbath, was changed from Saturday to Sunday. "The Day of the Lord" (dies Dominica) was chosen, not from any directions noted in the Scriptures, but from the Church's sense of its own power. The day of resurrection, the day of Pentecost, fifty days later, came on the first day of the week. So this would be the new Sabbath. People who think that the Scriptures should be the sole authority, should logically become 7th Day Adventists, and keep Saturday holy."
—Sentinel, Pastor's page, Saint Catherine Catholic Church, Algonac, Michigan, May 21, 1995

Protestants ... accept Sunday rather than Saturday as the day for public worship after the Catholic Church made the change... But the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that ... in observing Sunday, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the Church, the pope.
—Our Sunday Visitor, February 5th, 1950.

Of course these two old quotations are exactly correct. The Catholic Church designated Sunday as the day for corporate worship and gets full credit – or blame – for the change.
—This Rock, The Magazine of Catholic Apologetics and Evangelization, p.8, June 1997

The [Roman Catholic] Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, infallible authority given to her by her founder, Jesus Christ. The Protestant claiming the Bible to be the only guide of faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday. In this matter the Seventh-day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant.
—The Catholic Universe Bulletin, August 14, 1942, p. 4.

And they make no hesitation in their own declarations or historical documents...

In the Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, we read:

Q. Which is the Sabbath day?
A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.

Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea, (AD 336) transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday....

Q. Why did the Catholic Church substitute Sunday for Saturday?
A. The Church substituted Sunday for Saturday, because Christ rose from the dead on a Sunday, and the Holy Ghost descended upon the Apostles on a Sunday.

Q. By what authority did the Church substitute Sunday for Saturday?
A. The Church substituted Sunday for Saturday by the plenitude of that divine power which Jesus Christ bestowed upon her!
- Rev. Peter Geiermann, C.SS.R., (1946), p. 50.

In Catholic Christian Instructed,

Q. Has the [Catholic] church power to make any alterations in the commandments of God?
A. ...Instead of the seventh day, and other festivals appointed by the old law, the church has prescribed the Sundays and holy days to be set apart for God's worship; and these we are now obliged to keep in consequence of God's commandment, instead of the ancient Sabbath.
- The Catholic Christian Instructed in the Sacraments, Sacrifices, Ceremonies, and Observances of the Church By Way of Question and Answer, RT Rev. Dr. Challoner, p. 204.

In An Abridgment of the Christian Doctrine,

Q. How prove you that the church hath power to command feasts and holy days?
A. By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of; and therefore they fondly contradict themselves, by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same church.

Q. How prove you that?
A. Because by keeping Sunday, they acknowledge the church's power to ordain feasts, and to command them under sin; and by not keeping the rest [of the feasts] by her commanded, they again deny, in fact, the same power.
- Rev. Henry Tuberville, D.D. (R.C.), (1833), page 58.

In A Doctrinal Catechism,

Q. Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
A. Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her. She could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.
- Rev. Stephen Keenan, (1851), p. 174.

In the Catechism of the Council of Trent,

The Church of God has thought it well to transfer the celebration and observance of the Sabbath to Sunday!
- p 402, second revised edition (English), 1937. (First published in 1566)

In the Augsburg Confession,

They [the Catholics] allege the Sabbath changed into Sunday, the Lord's day, contrary to the decalogue, as it appears; neither is there any example more boasted of than the changing of the Sabbath day. Great, they say, is the power and authority of the church, since it dispensed with one of the ten commandments.
- Art. 28.

As for the New Testament saying we must keep the Sabbath of the 4th Commandment, Christ says it Himself..
Matthew 19:17
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

And the scripture in the New Testament clearly says the same...

1 John 2:3-4
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 John 5:2-3
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Revelation 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

 

[reddogs]

Now what is unavoidable is the clear word from Paul who basically said, “Of your own selves,” that is from among the men who had been chosen to guide and care for the church of Christ, there would be those who would pervert their calling in order to build up their own influence rather than the truth. We see the beginning of the falling away of which Paul referred to in his counsel to the elders, or bishops, of the church at Ephesus, whom he called to meet him at Miletus. He said, “For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. " Acts 20:29-30

As we read the apostles warnings in the New Testament, we see them constantly in conflict with this evil, fighting its influence and guarding against its workings. As we see in 2 Thessalonians 2:7, the mystery of iniquity was already working and it was at work as the Scriptures had predicted, and barely were the apostles dead when this entity actually appeared in the church.

A biblical scholar said, “No sooner were the apostles removed from the stage of action, no sooner was their watchful attentions gone and their apostolic authority removed, than this very thing appeared of which the apostle had spoken. Certain bishops, in order to make easier the conversion of the heathen, to multiply disciples, and by this increase their own influence and authority, began to adopt heathen customs and forms.” The Great Empires of Prophecy, 377, by Alonzo T. Jones.

In order to make easier the conversion of the heathen, to multiply the numbers, especially in the church at Rome, , they lowered the standard for church fellowship, and let waves of pagan "converts" come in. And it wasnt just the flood of them, but also the old rites and rituals and worship that also was allowed in. We find from history, "It is certain that to religious worship, both public and private, many rites were added, without necessity, and to the offense of sober and good men." -- "Ecclesiastical History," Century ii, part ii, chap. iv, par. 1.

The Christians were pronounced 'atheists', because they didn't have temples, altars, priests, and all that rites and rituals that were suppose by pagans to be the essence of religion to consist of. Soon there was a shift in the church to accommodate the Christian worship and its forms to that of the pagans. Of all the ceremonies of the pagans, the mysteries were the most sacred and most universally practiced, so soon it made its appearance in the church. Most were connected or a basically the incarnation of the sun, and the mysteries being a form of sun worship. So it was simply to link the Christian worship in the minds of a people who practiced these things in the empire that the bishops 'Christianized' the name of the mysteries.

But it was still the old pagan worship, and the next step in addition to this was the adoption of the day of the sun as a festival day. And many forms of sun-worship that were practiced came in, that before the close of the second century the pagans themselves charged the "Christians" with worshiping the sun.

We see in history, “Before the coming of Christ, all the Eastern nations performed divine worship with their faces turned to that part of the heavens where the sun displays his rising beams . . . Nor is this custom abolished even in our times, but still prevails in a great number of Christian churches.” Ecclesiastical History, century 2, part 2, chap. 4, par. 7.

And we find one the Christian fathers had to make a defense of this practice. Here is what he said: “Others again, certainly with more information and greater or veri-similitude believe that the sun is our god . . . The idea no doubt has originated from our being known to turn toward the east in prayer. But you, many of you, also under pretense sometimes of worshipping the heavenly bodies, move your lips in the direction of the sunrise. In the same way if we devote Sunday to rejoicing, from a far different reason than sun worship, we have some resemblance to those of you who devote the day of Saturn to ease and luxury.” Apology, chap. 16, by Tertullian.

Clearly this was a problem if Tertullian had to defend this form of sun worship, as it was not scriptural or sanctioned by the apostles. Now as the early church consisted of mostly Jews, it was the custom of the Jewish Christians to remember the death and resurrection of Christ during the Passover season. Passover, which was on the fourteenth day of the first month of the Jewish year, would fall on different days of the week each year. Rome, however, and from her all the Western Empire, adopted the day of the sun as the day of this celebration. Rome ruled that the celebration must always be on a Sunday. It was on this point that the bishop of Rome began to lift his power above the other leaders, and made one of the first claims at absolute power in his attempt to compel obedience.

Making the "Passover", really the pagan Easter festival, fall on Sunday, the bishop at Rome had many "converts come for "worship", and this soon spread beyond Rome and caused a conflict with the Christian churches in the East. Here is what history says: He “would neither conform to that [Eastern] custom himself, nor suffer any under his jurisdiction to conform to it, obliging them to celebrate that solemnity on the Sunday next following the fourteenth of the month.” History of the Popes Under Pius and Anicetus, by Bower.

By the close of the second century, Victor, the bishop of Rome from 192 to 202 A.D., wrote a letter to the Christian clergy in the East, “commanding them to imitate the example of the Western Christians with respect to the time of celebrating the festival of Easter. The Asiatics answered this lordly request through Polycrates, bishop of Ephesus, who declared in their name, with great spirit and resolution, that they would by no means depart, in this manner from the custom handed down to them by their ancestors.” Ecclesiastical History, century 2, part 2, chapter 4, par. 11

As a result, Victor began to use the weapon of excommunication, broke communion with them, pronounced them unworthy of the name of brethren and excluded them from all fellowship with the Church of Rome. By the end of the second century, it was spreading throughout the empire and by the third century, it was difficult to tell the difference between paganism and this "Christianity".

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Since the scriptures are clear that no other day was made as the day of worship except the seventh day, and the Commandments show this with unblinking clarity to Christians, what does history show. If Christians look through all these things and become fully aware that Sunday worship is not ordained by God or anywhere in the Bible or given by Christ or the apostles, and with full knowledge continue to transgress what is shown to them from scripture, will God wink at it, lets look at scripture......

Your wrong in your assertions I will quote from something I wrote a few months ago.



1) Sunday is "the Lord's Day" (colloquially speaking), because this has been the unanimous testimony of Christianity for nearly 2000 years, that Christ rose from the dead on the day after the Sabath, aka Sunday. And this fact is further confirmed by a few passages in the New Testament itself, speaking of the worship on the Lord's Day an idiom unique to this day, and not used to describe the Jewish Sabbath.


2) Not only is the following true but it is foreshadowed in Scripture in Old Testament passages regarding the 8th day and Pentecost in Judaism, where the 8th day especially is symbolic of new beginnings (use link or copy and paste the following reference into a search engine for more info).
Parasha Shemini (Eighth): New Beginnings | Messianic Bible


3) Groups that preach or have preached against Sunday as "The day of the Beast", "coming from paganism" etc. do so wrongly. Those claims were made by people who did not study Church history etc. and are wrong and ignorant of the facts. I actually believe they qualify as false witness according to the Biblical definition.


4A) Groups that proclaim point 3 as part of a Revelation I believe do so based on the Spirit of anti-Christ. 1 John 4:1 tells us to test the Spirits and to reject one's that contradict the Received Faith, in the case of that passage it was the Docetic message that Jesus did not come in bodily form. Groups that preach point 3 likewise contradict the unanimous testimony of the Church for the last 2000 years. As one person I read phrased it they take something that is or should be received with joy and make it Demonic! Is this not the very work of the Spirit of the Antichrist? I think it is when you compare it similar statements Jesus said against the Pharisees.

4B) The above point is not just metaphorically true, but even literally true. In studying the historic/traditional doctrines of X from her writings you get into many quotes where the Theology being preached is not orthodox Christian Trinitarian but quotes implying numerous heretical understandings and teachings concerning the nature of the Trinity etc.


5) Extra Points from Scripture
Groups that preach on point 3) are ignorant of other points of doctrine most notably things like the original context of “Binding and Loosening” in the Great Commission and it’s original Jewish Context.


BINDING AND LOOSING - JewishEncyclopedia.com

They also do not seem to appreciate the Conciliar nature of the Church, in passages like Acts 15. Or even other considerations that would affect the ancient Christians in their pattern of worship (meeting together as One Body in Christ) etc.


6) Groups that do point 3) have their own unique doctrines that come via Revelations that are not orthodox and are new innovations.


7) The leaders of these groups are unaccountable and have other questionable problems from scripture especially concerning meeting the qualifications of "being a prophet", as well as a teacher in the Church according to the words of saint Paul in his epistles.
a) Prophesying things that don't come to pass is disqualifying
b) Head Covering while prophesying never seen a picture of X have her hair covered in church!
c) The ministry of women in the Church according to saint Paul is very limited when it comes to public ministry and worship.


8 ) Groups that preach point 3 work against the Biblical concept of Shalom. They attempt to undermine a person’s Faith in order to proselytize them towards their sect. They do their very best to instill anxiety into their victims!


9) They are the very essence of “Wolves in Sheep’s” clothing that the Bible warns us of. They do so in two ways

A) posing as Christian brothers who then use a Bait and Switch tactic for point 8.

B) the Biblical term “Wolf in Sheep’s clothing” is an allusion to the prophetic mantel of the prophet that was from sheep’s skin. These people get their teaching from a “prophet” who claimed Revelations from God.



10) Back to point 1) (Sunday as Lord's Day)

A) The fact we are called "to be witnesses" of Christ is a big one. That is where we get the term martyr for one who suffers or dies for Christ. But this is a also a reminder of the Apostolic preaching and teaching around this topic.


B) The history of why Gospels came into existence. The Gospel of Matthew came, for instance into existence (according to Papias) when the apostles were leaving Jerusalem, they did so to leave behind a permeant witness, since they left that city because persecution was becoming to much and forced them to relocate. Until this time, the Christian message came purely by preaching to the local area!


Bonus point 11
Ignorance of Biblical idiom, like trying to make Saturday the Lord’s day, when the Bible uses terms like rest and sleep in reference to death and the grave, as well as the Sabath. If Christ had been raised on the Saturday it would go against an established Biblical theme of receiving new life and being a new creation! Besides this you have other Biblical themes like the New Wine Skin, and believers and the Church being a new creation etc. as mentioned on the point about the 8th day and Pentecost.


Yes, the very early Christians did worship primarily on the Sabbath, but the reasons for this are obvious Christianity was riding the coattails of Judaism. At the time of Nero etc. it was considered a Jewish sect, but Christian persecution soon began to changed things when the Christians were driven underground, kicked out of the temple and the Synagogues etc. Soon future Christians who were not born with Jewish ancestry began to realize their identity was primarily in Christ and therefore elected to worship on the day he rose from the dead and made their salvation possible (This and all the other stuff mentioned in point 5).

 

[guevaraj]

Yes, the very early Christians did worship primarily on the Sabbath, but the reasons for this are obvious Christianity was riding the coattails of Judaism. At the time of Nero etc. it was considered a Jewish sect, but Christian persecution soon began to changed things when the Christians were driven underground, kicked out of the temple and the Synagogues etc. Soon future Christians who were not born with Jewish ancestry began to realize their identity was primarily in Christ and therefore elected to worship on the day he rose from the dead and made their salvation possible.

Brother, Jesus rose on a Saturday night, after an evening ended the Sabbath in the Promised Land and before the morning began Sunday, because the days of the week are from morning to morning, as God taught them with Manna during 40 years in the desert, while preventing them from entering the Sabbath by "oath" making them keep the seventh day of the week near the Promised Land when the Sabbath is entered earlier from evening to evening in the Promised Land before the seventh day of the week. Every translation has mistakenly assumed that God's "expression": "the first of the Sabbaths" refers to Sunday when referring to Saturday, another way of referring to the seventh day of the creation week. This expression is necessary because the Sabbath falls between two days of the week in the Promised Land as shown in the passage below. The Sabbath in the Promised Land falls and takes halves between Friday and Saturday, so you only get half of a Friday and half of a Saturday in the Promised Land, with a Sabbath taking halves between those two days, giving us the following order: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Sabbath, and Saturday, the Sabbath being an eighth division in the seven-day week.

The "evening" ending the Sabbath in the Promised Land is part of Saturday, as shown in the passage below where God uses an "expression" that was not previously understood: "the first of the Sabbaths". This "expression" refers to the first Sabbath of creation week or another way of saying the seventh day of the week that we call Saturday. I will use Saturday for the seventh day as different from the Sabbath, which is separate from the seventh day in the Promised Land, to correct the translation of this "expression" of God. Here, "as it dawns beyond Saturday" refers to the end of the second half of Saturday, the night half from evening to morning, where Jesus rose on a Saturday night after the Sabbath in the Promised Land and before the morning begins Sunday, as the days of creation are corrected from human tradition since Joshua in Hebrews 3 and 4. In conclusion, Jesus rose on a Saturday night, after the Sabbath ended in the "evening", as that same "evening" began what God called "night" until Sunday began in the "morning". We speak from the point of view of what begins in the "morning", when the Bible speaks from the point of view of what ends in the "morning".

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[reddogs]

So one question, which day did the early church worship on... it wasnt Sunday..
So someone other than Christ or His apostles must have done it, and there is only one other origin, the adversary and its earthly entity, the apostate church...

Who changed the Sabbath to Sunday? | Bibleinfo.com

The Christian world has for some time observed two different days. On one hand, most Christians sincerely observe Sunday, the first day of the week, which they believe to be a memorial of Christ’s resurrection. On the other hand, a large group of Christians, equally sincere, believe that the...

www.bibleinfo.com

 

[reddogs]

Your wrong in your assertions I will quote from something I wrote a few months ago.



1) Sunday is "the Lord's Day" (colloquially speaking), because this has been the unanimous testimony of Christianity for nearly 2000 years, that Christ rose from the dead on the day after the Sabath, aka Sunday. And this fact is further confirmed by a few passages in the New Testament itself, speaking of the worship on the Lord's Day an idiom unique to this day, and not used to describe the Jewish Sabbath.


2) Not only is the following true but it is foreshadowed in Scripture in Old Testament passages regarding the 8th day and Pentecost in Judaism, where the 8th day especially is symbolic of new beginnings (use link or copy and paste the following reference into a search engine for more info).
Parasha Shemini (Eighth): New Beginnings | Messianic Bible


3) Groups that preach or have preached against Sunday as "The day of the Beast", "coming from paganism" etc. do so wrongly. Those claims were made by people who did not study Church history etc. and are wrong and ignorant of the facts. I actually believe they qualify as false witness according to the Biblical definition.


4A) Groups that proclaim point 3 as part of a Revelation I believe do so based on the Spirit of anti-Christ. 1 John 4:1 tells us to test the Spirits and to reject one's that contradict the Received Faith, in the case of that passage it was the Docetic message that Jesus did not come in bodily form. Groups that preach point 3 likewise contradict the unanimous testimony of the Church for the last 2000 years. As one person I read phrased it they take something that is or should be received with joy and make it Demonic! Is this not the very work of the Spirit of the Antichrist? I think it is when you compare it similar statements Jesus said against the Pharisees.

4B) The above point is not just metaphorically true, but even literally true. In studying the historic/traditional doctrines of X from her writings you get into many quotes where the Theology being preached is not orthodox Christian Trinitarian but quotes implying numerous heretical understandings and teachings concerning the nature of the Trinity etc.


5) Extra Points from Scripture
Groups that preach on point 3) are ignorant of other points of doctrine most notably things like the original context of “Binding and Loosening” in the Great Commission and it’s original Jewish Context.


BINDING AND LOOSING - JewishEncyclopedia.com

They also do not seem to appreciate the Conciliar nature of the Church, in passages like Acts 15. Or even other considerations that would affect the ancient Christians in their pattern of worship (meeting together as One Body in Christ) etc.


6) Groups that do point 3) have their own unique doctrines that come via Revelations that are not orthodox and are new innovations.


7) The leaders of these groups are unaccountable and have other questionable problems from scripture especially concerning meeting the qualifications of "being a prophet", as well as a teacher in the Church according to the words of saint Paul in his epistles.
a) Prophesying things that don't come to pass is disqualifying
b) Head Covering while prophesying never seen a picture of X have her hair covered in church!
c) The ministry of women in the Church according to saint Paul is very limited when it comes to public ministry and worship.


8 ) Groups that preach point 3 work against the Biblical concept of Shalom. They attempt to undermine a person’s Faith in order to proselytize them towards their sect. They do their very best to instill anxiety into their victims!


9) They are the very essence of “Wolves in Sheep’s” clothing that the Bible warns us of. They do so in two ways

A) posing as Christian brothers who then use a Bait and Switch tactic for point 8.

B) the Biblical term “Wolf in Sheep’s clothing” is an allusion to the prophetic mantel of the prophet that was from sheep’s skin. These people get their teaching from a “prophet” who claimed Revelations from God.



10) Back to point 1) (Sunday as Lord's Day)

A) The fact we are called "to be witnesses" of Christ is a big one. That is where we get the term martyr for one who suffers or dies for Christ. But this is a also a reminder of the Apostolic preaching and teaching around this topic.


B) The history of why Gospels came into existence. The Gospel of Matthew came, for instance into existence (according to Papias) when the apostles were leaving Jerusalem, they did so to leave behind a permeant witness, since they left that city because persecution was becoming to much and forced them to relocate. Until this time, the Christian message came purely by preaching to the local area!


Bonus point 11
Ignorance of Biblical idiom, like trying to make Saturday the Lord’s day, when the Bible uses terms like rest and sleep in reference to death and the grave, as well as the Sabath. If Christ had been raised on the Saturday it would go against an established Biblical theme of receiving new life and being a new creation! Besides this you have other Biblical themes like the New Wine Skin, and believers and the Church being a new creation etc. as mentioned on the point about the 8th day and Pentecost.


Yes, the very early Christians did worship primarily on the Sabbath, but the reasons for this are obvious Christianity was riding the coattails of Judaism. At the time of Nero etc. it was considered a Jewish sect, but Christian persecution soon began to changed things when the Christians were driven underground, kicked out of the temple and the Synagogues etc. Soon future Christians who were not born with Jewish ancestry began to realize their identity was primarily in Christ and therefore elected to worship on the day he rose from the dead and made their salvation possible (This and all the other stuff mentioned in point 5).

There would be multiple discussions and text on such a change and yet silence..... Why, because there was no change and history gives proof to Gods Word and His truth...

 

[reddogs]

Your wrong in your assertions I will quote from something I wrote a few months ago.



1) Sunday is "the Lord's Day" (colloquially speaking), because this has been the unanimous testimony of Christianity for nearly 2000 years, that Christ rose from the dead on the day after the Sabath, aka Sunday. And this fact is further confirmed by a few passages in the New Testament itself, speaking of the worship on the Lord's Day an idiom unique to this day, and not used to describe the Jewish Sabbath.


2) Not only is the following true but it is foreshadowed in Scripture in Old Testament passages regarding the 8th day and Pentecost in Judaism, where the 8th day especially is symbolic of new beginnings (use link or copy and paste the following reference into a search engine for more info).
Parasha Shemini (Eighth): New Beginnings | Messianic Bible


3) Groups that preach or have preached against Sunday as "The day of the Beast", "coming from paganism" etc. do so wrongly. Those claims were made by people who did not study Church history etc. and are wrong and ignorant of the facts. I actually believe they qualify as false witness according to the Biblical definition.


4A) Groups that proclaim point 3 as part of a Revelation I believe do so based on the Spirit of anti-Christ. 1 John 4:1 tells us to test the Spirits and to reject one's that contradict the Received Faith, in the case of that passage it was the Docetic message that Jesus did not come in bodily form. Groups that preach point 3 likewise contradict the unanimous testimony of the Church for the last 2000 years. As one person I read phrased it they take something that is or should be received with joy and make it Demonic! Is this not the very work of the Spirit of the Antichrist? I think it is when you compare it similar statements Jesus said against the Pharisees.

4B) The above point is not just metaphorically true, but even literally true. In studying the historic/traditional doctrines of X from her writings you get into many quotes where the Theology being preached is not orthodox Christian Trinitarian but quotes implying numerous heretical understandings and teachings concerning the nature of the Trinity etc.


5) Extra Points from Scripture
Groups that preach on point 3) are ignorant of other points of doctrine most notably things like the original context of “Binding and Loosening” in the Great Commission and it’s original Jewish Context.


BINDING AND LOOSING - JewishEncyclopedia.com

They also do not seem to appreciate the Conciliar nature of the Church, in passages like Acts 15. Or even other considerations that would affect the ancient Christians in their pattern of worship (meeting together as One Body in Christ) etc.


6) Groups that do point 3) have their own unique doctrines that come via Revelations that are not orthodox and are new innovations.


7) The leaders of these groups are unaccountable and have other questionable problems from scripture especially concerning meeting the qualifications of "being a prophet", as well as a teacher in the Church according to the words of saint Paul in his epistles.
a) Prophesying things that don't come to pass is disqualifying
b) Head Covering while prophesying never seen a picture of X have her hair covered in church!
c) The ministry of women in the Church according to saint Paul is very limited when it comes to public ministry and worship.


8 ) Groups that preach point 3 work against the Biblical concept of Shalom. They attempt to undermine a person’s Faith in order to proselytize them towards their sect. They do their very best to instill anxiety into their victims!


9) They are the very essence of “Wolves in Sheep’s” clothing that the Bible warns us of. They do so in two ways

A) posing as Christian brothers who then use a Bait and Switch tactic for point 8.

B) the Biblical term “Wolf in Sheep’s clothing” is an allusion to the prophetic mantel of the prophet that was from sheep’s skin. These people get their teaching from a “prophet” who claimed Revelations from God.



10) Back to point 1) (Sunday as Lord's Day)

A) The fact we are called "to be witnesses" of Christ is a big one. That is where we get the term martyr for one who suffers or dies for Christ. But this is a also a reminder of the Apostolic preaching and teaching around this topic.


B) The history of why Gospels came into existence. The Gospel of Matthew came, for instance into existence (according to Papias) when the apostles were leaving Jerusalem, they did so to leave behind a permeant witness, since they left that city because persecution was becoming to much and forced them to relocate. Until this time, the Christian message came purely by preaching to the local area!


Bonus point 11
Ignorance of Biblical idiom, like trying to make Saturday the Lord’s day, when the Bible uses terms like rest and sleep in reference to death and the grave, as well as the Sabath. If Christ had been raised on the Saturday it would go against an established Biblical theme of receiving new life and being a new creation! Besides this you have other Biblical themes like the New Wine Skin, and believers and the Church being a new creation etc. as mentioned on the point about the 8th day and Pentecost.


Yes, the very early Christians did worship primarily on the Sabbath, but the reasons for this are obvious Christianity was riding the coattails of Judaism. At the time of Nero etc. it was considered a Jewish sect, but Christian persecution soon began to changed things when the Christians were driven underground, kicked out of the temple and the Synagogues etc. Soon future Christians who were not born with Jewish ancestry began to realize their identity was primarily in Christ and therefore elected to worship on the day he rose from the dead and made their salvation possible (This and all the other stuff mentioned in point 5).

The Lords day has always been the Sabbath of the Lord thy God, not Moses' sabbath, or the Jews sabbath, or anyone else's sabbath.

Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

We see the same.

Deuteronomy 5:12-13
12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee. 13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work: 14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.

Again the same.

Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

It was not 'Moses' sabbath.

Leviticus 19:1-2
1And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the LORD your God am holy. 3 Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father, and keep my sabbaths: I am the LORD your God.

Leviticus 19:30 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

Leviticus 26:2 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

Isaiah 56:4-6
4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; 5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off. 6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;

Ezekiel 20:12-13
12Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. 13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Ezekiel 20:16 Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols.

Ezek 20:19-24
19I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them;
20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God. 21 Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness. 22 Nevertheless I withdrew mine hand, and wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted in the sight of the heathen, in whose sight I brought them forth. 23 I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I would scatter them among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries; 24 Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers' idols.

Ezekiel 22:8 Thou hast despised mine holy things, and hast profaned my sabbaths.

Ezekiel 22:26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

Ezekiel 23:38 Moreover this they have done unto me: they have defiled my sanctuary in the same day, and have profaned my sabbaths.

The Lord claims the sabbath as His very own. It is a day, therefore it is literally, the Lord's day. This clear so how many times must the Lord call the sabbath His day to understand that there is only one day in the scriptures that would be referred to as the Lord's day? Other than the seventh day sabbath, the Lord's day can also refer to the day on which He will return to this earth. That is all. Sunday, or the first day of the week is never referred to as the Lord's day in the scriptures.

This title was only applied to Sunday later on, to cover their deception. It was applied by those who began the apostasy and abomination which was the result of the amalgamation of apostate Christianity and pagan sun worship.

 

[prodromos]

After reading through most of that, I now automatically read reddogs as deadwrongs. Alas there is far too much to respond to and too little time. I'd prefer to have a life rather than waste time responding to each and every point.