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[AV1611VET]

You don't have to go all the way to "science as religion" to imply that the two use similar types of thinking. I've done both and the thinking is very different.

Do you agree with Mark Twain that faith is "believing something you know ain't so"?

 

[Estrid]

You don't have to go all the way to "science as religion" to imply that the two use similar types of thinking. I've done both and the thinking is very different.

Essentially opposite actually.

One of them, for example, requires time and effort.

 

[AV1611VET]

Essentially opposite actually.

Not really.

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.

Two of the principles above (1, 4) allow for science.

Science is our friend.

 

[eleos1954]

You don't have to go all the way to "science as religion" to imply that the two use similar types of thinking. I've done both and the thinking is very different.

having faith in something or someone isn't exclusive to religion ... having faith in something/someone don't define someone as being religious
I'm not implying anything ... just going by the definition of faith.

faith
/fāTH/
noun
1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

 

[Estrid]

having faith in something or someone isn't exclusive to religion ... having faith in something/someone don't define someone as being religious
I'm not implying anything ... just going by the definition of faith.

faith
/fāTH/
noun
1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

You see no nuance in the word?

Faith in God is indistinguishable from faith the car will start?

Puppy love is precisely the same as love of
God?

 

[AV1611VET]

Faith in God is indistinguishable from faith the car will start?

Faith is a gift from God.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

 

[Hans Blaster]

having faith in something or someone isn't exclusive to religion ... having faith in something/someone don't define someone as being religious
I'm not implying anything ... just going by the definition of faith.

faith
/fāTH/
noun
1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

Going for the equivocation?

I am not going to use "faith" in a non-religious context here to avoid confusing people, and everytime someone puts my actions to "faith" (other than past religious activity) I will reject that notion to avoid false equivalence. Not using "faith" in secular contexts on *THIS BOARD* avoids that confusion. I invite everyone to join me in this separation of terms to avoid confusion and use alternatives like "trust" for non-religious contexts.

 

[Estrid]

Going for the equivocation?

I am not going to use "faith" in a non-religious context here to avoid confusing people, and everytime someone puts my actions to "faith" (other than past religious activity) I will reject that notion to avoid false equivalence. Not using "faith" in secular contexts on *THIS BOARD* avoids that confusion. I invite everyone to join me in this separation of terms to avoid confusion and use alternatives like "trust" for non-religious contexts.

Estrid on board

 

[dlamberth]

Going for the equivocation?

I am not going to use "faith" in a non-religious context here to avoid confusing people, and everytime someone puts my actions to "faith" (other than past religious activity) I will reject that notion to avoid false equivalence. Not using "faith" in secular contexts on *THIS BOARD* avoids that confusion. I invite everyone to join me in this separation of terms to avoid confusion and use alternatives like "trust" for non-religious contexts.

That makes sense.

 

[AV1611VET]

I invite everyone to join me in this separation of terms to avoid confusion and use alternatives like "trust" for non-religious contexts.

There's no escape.

 

[BCP1928]

Because it was when Adam and Eve sinned that brought death into the world ... if evolution is believed then death was in the world before Adam & Eve were created.

Interesting theological proposition. Is that why you require a literal reading of Genesis?

If one believes the biblical account of Genesis .... evolution and creation (according to Genesis) are mutually exclusive.

So you are really concerned with a literal reading of Genesis rather than the existence of a creator God?

 

[Estrid]

Interesting theological proposition. Is that why you require a literal reading of Genesis?

So you are really concerned with a literal reading of Genesis rather than the existence of a creator God?

" Evolution is proved false by how I
choose to read the bible".

I wish people would just go straight to
the point.

 

[Estrid]

That makes sense.

Join the Movement. Be like Us.

Keep your Faith, but drop your faith.

 

[AV1611VET]

" Evolution is proved false by how I choose to read the bible".

I wish people would just go straight to the point.

You want ME to go straight to the point?

Take me off IGNORE and I'll fulfill your wish.

(On second thought, that's why you put me on IGNORE. Hmmm ...)

 

[AV1611VET]

Join the Movement. Be like Us.

As I demonstrated with that penny, it won't work.

Attempts to separate theology from non-theology will end up with a reality check.

Gene Roddenberry initially wanted no references to God in his Star Trek series, but found out it was next to impossible.

Eventually he even ended up with this in one of his episodes:

 

[dlamberth]

Join the Movement. Be like Us.

Keep your Faith, but drop your faith.

From the spiritual perspective, that's a tough thing to do when the Divine is one's reality in life.

For this forum though, I'm OK with using "trust" rather than "faith". It makes sense to me. But in the same breath, using the sun as an example, my "faith" that it comes up every morning strikes differently in me than my "trust" that it comes up each morning. My use of faith in this example is not in anyway meant in a religious content. It has more to do with inward feelings in how I experience that two. And for me when I look inward, "faith" is way more powerful of a word than is "trust".

 

[Estrid]

From the spiritual perspective, that's a tough thing to do when the Divine is one's reality in life.

For this forum though, I'm OK with using "trust" rather than "faith". It makes sense to me. But in the same breath, using the sun as an example, my "faith" that it comes up every morning strikes differently in me than my "trust" that it comes up each morning. My use of faith in this example is not in anyway meant in a religious content. It has more to do with inward feelings in how I experience that two. And for me when I look inward, "faith" is way more powerful of a word than is "trust".

Nuances, sure.

I too feel many things with a depth that's not
described with confidence intervals.

 

[SelfSim]

For this forum though, I'm OK with using "trust" rather than "faith". It makes sense to me. But in the same breath, using the sun as an example, my "faith" that it comes up every morning strikes differently in me than my "trust" that it comes up each morning. My use of faith in this example is not in anyway meant in a religious content. It has more to do with inward feelings in how I experience that two. And for me when I look inward, "faith" is way more powerful of a word than is "trust".

Curious.
I'm actually pleasantly surprised when the Sun comes up in the morning. It means I'm still alive in order to see it .. there's no faith, or trust, at all there.

Same goes for when the car starts up .. except I experience respect for human engineering (and economics), both of which I know, makes that happen.

 

[eleos1954]

Going for the equivocation?

I am not going to use "faith" in a non-religious context here to avoid confusing people, and everytime someone puts my actions to "faith" (other than past religious activity) I will reject that notion to avoid false equivalence. Not using "faith" in secular contexts on *THIS BOARD* avoids that confusion. I invite everyone to join me in this separation of terms to avoid confusion and use alternatives like "trust" for non-religious contexts.

I go by the dictionary definition, words mean things and the dictionary tells us what they mean.

 

[eleos1954]

Interesting theological proposition. Is that why you require a literal reading of Genesis?

So you are really concerned with a literal reading of Genesis rather than the existence of a creator God?

Jesus affirmed the book of Genesis, so yeah I take it as literal as He did.