Russia is ready to “swallow” Europe whole?

[Kokavkrystallos]

"Ukraine military chief’s chilling warning to the West about Russia’s threat​

Russia is ready to “swallow” Europe whole, a top Ukrainian commander has warned - less than two months after he led a costly evacuation from a key city on the eastern frontline.
Speaking to The Independent from an undisclosed location in Donetsk, deputy commander of Ukraine’s 3rd Assault Brigade, Maksym Zhorin, issued a troubling warning to Kyiv’s Western partners.
The West, he said, must urgently prepare. “Create serious defence systems that could counteract Russia because it will undoubtedly open its mouth and try to swallow the rest of Europe,” he warned."

Ukraine military chief’s chilling warning to the West about Russia’s threat

Exclusive: The Independent speaks to Ukraine’s 3rd Assault Brigade deputy commander Makysm Zhorin about the costly retreat from Avdiivka and the threat of another Russian advance

www.independent.co.uk

Ukrainian propaganda? If Russia struggles to make small advancements in Ukraine, how shall it "swallow Europe whole?" Russia could nuke Europe and do it in that way, but then it wouldn't be fit to "swallow" at all!

 

[Lost4words]

Dont believe everything you hear is what i would say!

 

[Whyayeman]

Ukrainian propaganda?

Well, maybe there is an element of propaganda about it, but all Russia's European neighbours are deeply uneasy. Finland and Sweden have joined NATO after a long period of neutrality. President Putin has expressed grievances about the aggressive stance of the NATO countries 'surrounding and threatening Russia'.

The full might of Russia has not been fully deployed against Ukraine. Possibly Putin and his military under-estimated the strength of resistance; they may even have thought they would be welcomed by Ukrainians. Perhaps Putin feels restrained from fuller deployment because his hold over the satellite states to the East is weak and there is a need for a strong military presence there.

As for swallowing Europe whole - it is hyperbole. What is more credible is that the Putin regime hankers after the Soviet possessions; Finland Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia. Moldavia, Belarus, the Balkan states, Hungary and Poland are also on the line.

 

[Kokavkrystallos]

Dont believe everything you hear is what i would say!

Oh, I know! It's just a lot of people speak of Russian propaganda, while they dismiss western or Ukrainian propaganda. Truth is propaganda is alive and well on all sides!

 

[Whyayeman]

Oh, I know! It's just a lot of people speak of Russian propaganda, while they dismiss western or Ukrainian propaganda. Truth is propaganda is alive and well on all sides!

There are two sides and Russia is the aggressor here. The Russian army is occupying a large slice of a sovereign country. It is dangerous folly to adopt a neutral stance.

 

[Michael Snow]

There are two sides and Russia is the aggressor here. The Russian army is occupying a large slice of a sovereign country. It is dangerous folly to adopt a neutral stance.

Really? Was the USA the aggressor when USSR put missiles in Cuba?
This war started in 2014 with USA backed coup of democratically elected government.
And Ukraine put our cluster bombs to work.

 

[Desk trauma]

Was the USA the aggressor when USSR put missiles in Cuba?

Yes, had we invaded Cuba in response we would have been the aggressor.

 

[Whyayeman]

Really? Was the USA the aggressor when USSR put missiles in Cuba?
This war started in 2014 with USA backed coup of democratically elected government.
And Ukraine put our cluster bombs to work.
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Russian troops entered Ukraine on several fronts in 2022, after the annexation of Crimea and the Russian sponsored fighting begun in 2014.

Of course Russia is the aggressor!

 

[Kokavkrystallos]

Really? Was the USA the aggressor when USSR put missiles in Cuba?
This war started in 2014 with USA backed coup of democratically elected government.
And Ukraine put our cluster bombs to work.
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Yes, a lot of people tend to forget that. Same as 1962 when US put their Jupiter missiles in Italy and Turkey, so the Soviet response was to even the odds and put missiles in Cuba. Thankfully Kennedy and Khrushchev were both level headed about it, and Khrushchev agreed to withdraw from Cuba as long as US removed its missiles from Turkey and promise not to invade Cuba.

 

[Kokavkrystallos]

Yes, had we invaded Cuba in response we would have been the aggressor.

Don't forget the US conducted the botched invasion of Cuba in April 1961. Also in 1961 US began putting Jupiter missiles in Turkey. It was July 1962 when Russia began working in Cuba to bring missiles, and the missile crisis was in October 62. Who was the aggressor there?

 

[Desk trauma]

Don't forget the US conducted the botched invasion of Cuba in April 1961. Also in 1961 US began putting Jupiter missiles in Turkey. It was July 1962 when Russia began working in Cuba to bring missiles, and the missile crisis was in October 62.

Im familiar with the history.

 

[7thKeeper]

This war started in 2014 with USA backed coup of democratically elected government.

And here we have a prime example of Russian propaganda points as well as conspiracy theories.
The coup happened, done by Ukrainians themselves, after they were unsurprisingly angry when the elected president did a complete 180 from what he promised during his campaign and when the people protested, shot the protesters. USA wasn't involved in this at all.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Really? Was the USA the aggressor when USSR put missiles in Cuba?
This war started in 2014 with USA backed coup of democratically elected government.

This is false.

And Ukraine put our cluster bombs to work.

Good for them.

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This article is from 9 years *before* the US gave Ukraine cluster munitions (for NATO artillery pieces).

 

[RocK Guy]

Russia is ready to “swallow” Europe whole?

They can't even take Ukraine, much less the rest of Europe.

With Russia's excursion in to Ukraine we have seen first hand they cannot execute conventional warfare very well at all. It's an embarrassment for Russia how ineffective their military has been.

All Russia really has is the ability to shoot nukes, which they can do with supersonic missiles that are virtually impossible to stop especially when they are flying low and radar never picks them up and till they reach their destination.

 

[RocK Guy]

The coup happened, done by Ukrainians themselves.... USA wasn't involved in this at all.

Lots of people don't know what all the US government is up to.

The CIA has been known to work with dissidents to over throw
governments and they are quite good at doing it undetected.

 

[Whyayeman]

The CIA has been known to work with dissidents to over throw
governments and they are quite good at doing it undetected.

So how do you know?

 

[7thKeeper]

All Russia really has is the ability to shoot nukes, which they can do with supersonic missiles that are virtually impossible to stop especially when they are flying low and radar never picks them up and till they reach their destination.

They don't possess such missiles though.

 

[7thKeeper]

Lots of people don't know what all the US government is up to.

The CIA has been known to work with dissidents to over throw
governments and they are quite good at doing it undetected.

Unlikely. The protest started due to the president completely doing the exact opposite of what he promised during campaigning which [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ed off a lot of people. And what triggered the start of the coup was his own actions, not anything anyone else did or ordered. He caused it by his own hand.

 

[RocK Guy]

So how do you know?

Those who believe what the CIA says would never know.

If you do some honest research in to this you will find there is evidence the CIA has overthrown governments and has been involved in meddling with the affairs of other countries for a lot of years.

They don't possess such missiles though.

You can believe that if you want. Our own military is very worried about Russia and China both having tested and proven that they have this technology

Which of course is why the US is racing to perfect this technology and get it ready for the battlefield.

Unlikely.

That's what the CIA always says.

Eventually you'll figure out that the US has done a lot of evil things in this world.

 

[7thKeeper]

You can believe that if you want. Our own military is very worried about Russia and China both having tested and proven that they have this technology

Which of course is why the US is racing to perfect this technology and get it ready for the battlefield.

I don't need to "believe" it, we know what the missiles currently they have in use are capable of. They don't possess real hypersonic missiles at the moment, neither does China or the US, though they are closer to achieving them. Russia not so much yet, they are behind the curve compared to US and China.

That's what the CIA always says.

Eventually you'll figure out that the US has done a lot of evil things in this world.

What does the CIA say? None of what I mentioned are anything the CIA said, those are the events we saw happen. If you wish to be more specific, which part of my post about the events is something the CIA "said"? I'm not holding my breathe for a clear answer.