Riley Gaines threatens ‘legal action’ after being attacked by trans-rights activists during SF State speech

[ThatRobGuy]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/07/us/former-ncaa-swimmer-riley-gaines-assault-san-francisco-state-university/index.html

Riley Gaines threatens ‘legal action’ after being attacked by trans-rights activists during SF State speech

“The campus police did nothing. The dean of students was there and did nothing. There will be no repercussions unless I have something to do with it,” Riley Gaines said Saturday.

nypost.com

Swimmer Riley Gaines on Saturday threatened to take “legal action” after saying she was assaulted by trans-rights protesters during a speech about protecting women’s sports at San Francisco State University.

“The campus police did nothing. The dean of students was there and did nothing. There will be no repercussions unless I have something to do with it,” Gaines told “Fox & Friends Weekend” host Rachel Campos-Duffy.

“I will be pursuing legal action. These people need to face repercussions.”

The former NCAA swimmer and 12-time All-American champ said a mob of demonstrators attacked her while she spoke about including trans athletes in women’s sports during Thursday’s Turning Points USA event at SF State.

Dramatic video Gaines shared on Twitter shows her being ushered out of a classroom and into a hallway by security as protesters chase after her.

 

[jacks]

The whole world seems angry about something. Opposing groups having a respectful dialogue; now that would be news!

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

I read the article. Someone please explain, Is Riley Gains a trans/hybrid person?

 

[jacks]

I read the article. Someone please explain, Is Riley Gains a trans/hybrid person?

Riley Gains is not a "trans/hybrid person". She was speaking against allowing transsexual males being allowed to participate in women sports.

 

[rjs330]

Well as we are seeing the transgenders are getting more aggressive and more violent. All because we don't want to be forced to use pronouns that don't fit, we won't let them destroy children or invade women's spaces.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

I read the article. Someone please explain, Is Riley Gains a trans/hybrid person?

You mean... you couldn't tell?

Interesting.

 

[USincognito]

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I like the inclusion of both CNN and NY Post, but only quoting from the Post.

Swimmer Riley Gaines

At this point I think it's more accurate to refer to her as anti-trans woman activist Riley Gaines.

Gaines told “Fox & Friends Weekend” host Rachel Campos-Duffy.

Thursday’s Turning Points USA event at SF State.

To wit. ^^^

Dramatic video Gaines shared on Twitter shows her being ushered out of a classroom and into a hallway by security as protesters chase after her.

One of the activists get in front of her and shouts, “Trans rights are human rights” and “Yeah, you f–king transphobic b----, — I f–king see you!”

That handful of activists was out of control, but I didn't see any assault on the video.

 

[USincognito]

Well as we are seeing the transgenders are getting more aggressive and more violent. All because we don't want to be forced to use pronouns that don't fit, we won't let them destroy children or invade women's spaces.

That certainly is the narrative that the Conservisphere wants people to believe.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I like the inclusion of both CNN and NY Post, but only quoting from the Post.

At this point I think it's more accurate to refer to her as anti-trans woman activist Riley Gaines.

To wit. ^^^

That handful of activists was out of control, but I didn't see any assault on the video.

Clearly Riley Gaines is on the right politically, but the question is why some of these right-wing speaking events are met with people trying to shut down the speech of others (sometimes in violent ways)

I've always been of the mindset that better ideas should be able to win on their own merit, and if you have to resort to bully tactics to try to prevent the other side from even presenting theirs, they're basically conceding that "I can't defend my position, but I want what I want, so take that!"

As far as what happened to her being viewed as assault. At good litmus test would be a role reversal scenario.

If a transgender speaker got chased down a hallway by an angry mob of proud boys, and was forced to barricade themselves in a room for an extended period of time until police could safely get them out, would that be labelled as "out of control activists", or would that be labelled as something more serious?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Well as we are seeing the transgenders are getting more aggressive and more violent. All because we don't want to be forced to use pronouns that don't fit, we won't let them destroy children or invade women's spaces.

I would actually say it's the activists who fancy themselves "allies" who are getting more violent. Perhaps in an attempt to "prove how devoted they are to being an ally for street cred"?

We saw some similar things during some of the BLM/George Floyd protests...where the people getting into the most egregious behavior were white upper middle class college kids.

When this lady got surrounded at a restaurant was being told to "put up the first and chant Black Lives Matter", the group doing that was a group of obnoxious white activists.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

You mean... you couldn't tell?

Interesting.

No I could not, not by looks, and the article did not say.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Riley Gains is not a "trans/hybrid person". She was speaking against allowing transsexual males being allowed to participate in women sports.

Now that I agree with. Thanks.

 

[rjs330]

I would actually say it's the activists who fancy themselves "allies" who are getting more violent. Perhaps in an attempt to "prove how devoted they are to being an ally for street cred"?

We saw some similar things during some of the BLM/George Floyd protests...where the people getting into the most egregious behavior were white upper middle class college kids.

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When this lady got surrounded at a restaurant was being told to "put up the first and chant Black Lives Matter", the group doing that was a group of obnoxious white activists.

I think you are right to a point. There was a guy recently who was carrying a placard recently that was against transgenderism and a reporter was trying to interview him when a trans person, not an ally, came up to him during the interview and got right into the guy's face. The trans person was screaming and yelling at the guy in the guys personal space. The guy put up with it for a bit trying to do the interview but it was impossible to with someone right in his face like that. So he put his hand up to tell the transperson to stop and the transperson grabbed him and threw him on the ground and punched him.

Another video shows a transperson confronting another guy who was using his freedom of speech and punching him in the face.

So yes I agree that some of the violence is coming from the alliance people but transpersons are getting violent too.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

If a transgender speaker got chased down a hallway by an angry mob of proud boys, and was forced to barricade themselves in a room for an extended period of time until police could safely get them out, would that be labelled as "out of control activists", or would that be labelled as something more serious?

I'm sure that would depend on who you asked. Legally though, it would not be assault.

 

[rjs330]

That certainly is the narrative that the Conservisphere wants people to believe.

As you have just demonstrated it's difficult to argue against the truth.
You offered no evidence to contradict.

All you did was offer a sound bite.

 

[rjs330]

I'm sure that would depend on who you asked. Legally though, it would not be assault.

Except the fact that she was physically struck by people. That would be assault.

The other crime that that was committed was Unlawful Restraint by forcing her to remain in the locked room to avoid being assaulted. Might even be kidnapping depending on the state laws. They were also demanding a ransome by demanding she pay each of them $10.

I find it interesting that you are not showing any form of outrage at this. Had this been a mob doing this to a black person I can't imagine what you would be saying.

 

[rjs330]

That handful of activists was out of control, but I didn't see any assault on the video.

The mob was out of control, but surely you don't go by any standard of, "if it's not on video it didn't happen."

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Except the fact that she was physically struck by people. That would be assault.

If she was, it would be. However, that was not part of the scenario described in the post I replied to.

The other crime that that was committed was Unlawful Restraint by forcing her to remain in the locked room to avoid being assaulted. Might even be kidnapping depending on the state laws. They were also demanding a ransome by demanding she pay each of them $10.

That might be a bit of a stretch - she was being escorted by security, and they chose to take her to a locked room for her safety.

I find it interesting that you are not showing any form of outrage at this.

The protestors were wrong to do what they did, but why must I be outraged about it? I generally try to stay calm and rational about things like this.

Had this been a mob doing this to a black person I can't imagine what you would be saying.

Good to know that you're not a mind reader.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I'm sure that would depend on who you asked. Legally though, it would not be assault.

That would be fine and dandy if everyone would agree on a consistent definition of what defines violence.

Slogans like "silence is violence", and articles/opinions like these:

Having set the bar so low for what constitutes it for the last 5 years, it seems disingenuous to raise the standard now just because it's happening to someone on the other side.

If using the wrong pronoun is going to be considered violence (and not speaking up enough about social justice is going to be considered a form of violence), but 20 people chasing someone down the hall into a room while hurling expletives is not, I fail to see any real rationale behind that conclusion other than "it's only really bad when the other side does something".

 

[RocksInMyHead]

That would be fine and dandy if everyone would agree on a consistent definition of what defines violence.

Slogans like "silence is violence", and articles/opinions like these:

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Having set the bar so low for what constitutes it for the last 5 years, it seems disingenuous to raise the standard now just because it's happening to someone on the other side.

People are free to label things however they want, but "assault" has a specific legal definition under California law. If she wants to pursue legal avenues regarding assault, then she must prove that she was legally assaulted.