You are putting words into my mouth
Am I? What are you doing in the next 2 quotes? You've been contradicting your own statements this entire thread.
It occurs to me that a 14 year old boy had more faith to receive the promise of the Holy Spirit and the gift of tongues than you have...just sayin'...
What you are really saying is that you don't want the gift of tongues because it isn't for you.
The Scripture says not to quench the Spirit.
I accept the authority of Scripture
Then if you accept the authority of scripture, read it in the context you say you do and stop claiming people need the gift of tongues to prove baptism by the Spirit.
11 It is the one and only Spirit who distributes all these gifts. He alone decides which gift each person should have.
That scripture^ proves its not up to us what gifts we receive, but up to the Holy Spirit.
John 3:5
5 Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit.[a]
That scripture^ describes being born-again, which
happens when we are baptised by the Spirit and not before.
It is explaining to Nicodemus the need to be born again. It has nothing to do with the baptism with the Spirit
Prove it by scripture^
Having asked and received through prayer, then the person has to use his faith to start trying to speak the language.
Any gift God gives comes naturally and is not forced.
We were born again by the work of the Spirit in us. This is not the same as the Holy Spirit coming upon us as an enduement of power.
This is where you start contradicting yourself^
Therefore, the work of the Holy Spirit in a person to get them born again is separate from the enduement of the Holy Spirit coming upon the person as power from on high. The Bible doesn't contradict itself.
But you do.
One needs more than just our own language to be able to wrestle and travail in fervent and effectual prayer.
This is where you start making assumptions about effectual prayer^ as if praying to God doesn't work properly without the gift of tongues.
you're wrong.
Well, every person that I have assisted over the last 50 years to receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit have flowed out in tongues
You mention baptism again^ and yet another assumption the proof of it is in receiving the gift of tongues.
It certainly was a sign to me that they had genuinely received the baptism
A sign to you^ as if this confirms what you've been saying. (No scripture to back it up though)
Also accept that you can now speak in tongues to allow the Spirit to flow out of you.
Another assumption^ that other people lack faith if they don't speak in tongues.
You're suggesting God doesn't intercede or answer prayer without the use of tongues which is wrong. tell me where this view of yours is supported by scripture
You still haven't shown me^ the scripture that supports your view.
What I said was to show the power of the gift of tongues in intercession
What
you said is clear. As far as you're concerned, the gift of tongues is for those who desire it, that it's not up to the Holy Spirit to decide and distribute gifts as he sees fit, that those than don't have it are not baptised (born-again) by the Spirit and simply "lack faith". And you also said prayer wasn't truly effective without the gift of tongues. It's completely false.
Perhaps read 1 Corinthians 14:1-25 in its entirety. Here's an excerpt.
10 There are many different languages in the world, and every language has meaning. 11 But if I don’t understand a language, I will be a foreigner to someone who speaks it, and the one who speaks it will be a foreigner to me. 12 And the same is true for you. Since you are so eager to have the special abilities the Spirit gives, seek those that will strengthen the whole church.
13 So anyone who speaks in tongues should pray also for the ability to interpret what has been said. 14 For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don’t understand what I am saying.
15 Well then, what shall I do? I will pray in the spirit,[a] and I will also pray in words I understand. I will sing in the spirit, and I will also sing in words I understand.
20 Dear brothers and sisters, don’t be childish in your understanding of these things. Be innocent as babies when it comes to evil, but be mature in understanding matters of this kind. 21 It is written in the Scriptures[a]:
“I will speak to my own people
through strange languages
and through the lips of foreigners.
But even then, they will not listen to me,”
says the Lord.
22 So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers. Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers.