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But these afflictions (such as Paul's thorn) occur due to some sin or failure on our part (with Paul it was pride) that we cannot or will not deal with using the overcoming methods He has given us. Paul could have utilized the graces of God (which was sufficient to accomplish this taskl) to deal with his pride. But he did not. As a result the demon was sent to do for Him to drive Him to the place where He would have to approach the throne of grace for mercy.
The point is: God has given us all we need to overcome our flesh, our sin, our weaknesses, the devil, and whatever else comes against us. If we use those tools, then the afflictions will not have to be sent.
God did not save us and then, as a part of His plan, start sending afflictions at us to perfect us. The afflictions come on us to force us to the place where we do what we are supposed to do, and that is utilize the all sufficient grace of God to grown in faith and love. But in the end, it is the faith in His word and love that accomplishes the benefit. The afflictions only have the effect of driving us to the place where we fall at the foot of the cross and are perfected by His grace.
Suffering and afflictions do not perfect anyone.
Faith and the grace of God in Christ is the only thing that saves, sanctifies, and perfects us.
All else, including suffering, is nothing but works.
IMO, “afflictions” arise from a lot of sources other than (but not excluding) God—viruses, aging, bad habits, lack of exercise, etc.etc., even demons (spirit of infirmity) and God can use these afflictions, infirmities to teach us things, eternal things, we need to know.
And yes, suffering perfects us, just as it did Christ: 8 though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. 9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,” (Hebrews 5)
~Jim
Real heroes are people who rise to the occasion then slip quietly away. ~Tom Brokaw
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