Not a gaff - an outright false statement from the president

[probinson]

I think it's absolutely fair to assume everyone has lied and will probably lie again at some point.

Then in those instances, they were liars. It's really not all that complicated.

Biden either lied, or was grossly misinformed about one of the biggest issues for voters. Either way, it doesn't look good.

 

[BPPLEE]

Then in those instances, they were liars. It's really not all that complicated.

Biden either lied, or was grossly misinformed about one of the biggest issues for voters. Either way, it doesn't look good.

They only care when Trump lies, they think Biden means well

 

[probinson]

They only care when Trump lies, they think Biden means well

Well, I guess he is a "well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory". So he's got that going for him.

 

[BPPLEE]

Well, I guess he is a "well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory". So he's got that going for him.

They say reports on his debilitating mental condition are just exaggeration and propaganda and besides they would rather have someone who is not all there than someone like Trump

 

[rambot]

They only care when Trump lies, they think Biden means well

All I've been working toward suggesting in this thread is that the label of "liar" is either a word that should be applied to everyone because everyone lies OR there needs to be SOME kind of standard of egregiousness and frequency.

I am quite aware that, at BEST every politician on the planet plays fast and loose with the truth around their performance.

I DO care about what people lie about though. I do figure he probably forgot but ultimately I don't really care about a lie that is complete encapsulated in the past and doesn't actually harm or endanger anyone.

But sure. Biden lied. What an evil person.

But this thread is about Biden NOT Trump. So please don't bring up Trump here.

 

[BPPLEE]

All I've been working toward suggesting in this thread is that the label of "liar" is either a word that should be applied to everyone because everyone lies OR there needs to be SOME kind of standard of egregiousness and frequency.

I am quite aware that, at BEST every politician on the planet plays fast and loose with the truth around their performance.

I DO care about what people lie about though. I do figure he probably forgot but ultimately I don't really care about a lie that is complete encapsulated in the past and doesn't actually harm or endanger anyone.

But sure. Biden lied. What an evil person.

But this thread is about Biden NOT Trump. So please don't bring up Trump here.

Inflation went to 9% about a year after Biden took office, maybe that’s what he was thinking of

 

[rambot]

They say reports on his debilitating mental condition are just exaggeration and propaganda and besides they would rather have someone who is not all there than someone like Trump

I'm pretty sure the line is "We would rather one of the more sentient cabbages were elected than Trump".

Personally, I'd put Biden miles ahead of a sentient cabbage. He's managed to accomplish a fair bit and I'd hate to think that the Republican Party could be bested by a cabbage.

But perhaps you think less of the Republican party....

 

[BPPLEE]

I'm pretty sure the line is "We would rather one of the more sentient cabbages were elected than Trump".

Personally, I'd put Biden miles ahead of a sentient cabbage. He's managed to accomplish a fair bit and I'd hate to think that the Republican Party could be bested by a cabbage.

But perhaps you think less of the Republican party....

They haven’t impressed me lately

 

[rambot]

Inflation went to 9% about a year after Biden took office, maybe that’s what he was thinking of

Maybe he was thinking that. And then he'd be lying. Correct.

 

[rambot]

They haven’t impressed me lately

Well yeah.

If they can't even field a candidate decent enough to beat....BIDEN hands down?
Yeah....I'd be unimpressed too.

 

[BPPLEE]

Maybe he was thinking that. And then he'd be lying. Correct.

He would be mistaken

 

[hislegacy]

Personally, I'd put Biden miles ahead of a sentient cabbage. He's managed to accomplish a fair bit and I'd hate to think that the Republican Party could be bested by a cabbage.

I believe a more accurate opinion would be a bag of hammers -

BTW - your sentient cabbage is behind in the polls

 

[hislegacy]

NY Post editorial board scolds Biden for telling ‘a lie a minute’ during ‘fantasyland’ CNN interview​

Alas the sentient cabbage is being fact checked and it's not going well

MSN

 

[rambot]

NY Post editorial board scolds Biden for telling ‘a lie a minute’ during ‘fantasyland’ CNN interview​

Alas the sentient cabbage is being fact checked and it's not going well

MSN

Instead of quoting MSN....(not sure why), I went straight to the source:
Biden tells a lie a minute during CNN interview

Seems pretty clear that the nypost is not used to fact checking. It seems to be being checked against the opinions of the board and not the data.

I've only looked at the 15mil jobs created and the Dept. of labour puts it at 14.8. So I'm not sure the "fact checker's claim" that "he created nothing" is going to pan out for people who use numbers instead of opinions.

Don't worry NYPost. You're new at accountability and professional journalism (at least, you seem to demonstrate you are). Keep pluckin' away! You can do it!

 

[DaisyDay]

What is intentionally deceptive?

Having MSN listed as the source rather than the actual source, FoxNews.

Biden said that inflation was at 9% when he took office. That's a lie. Full stop.

Well no, he could also have been mistaken. A mistake is not a lie.

 

[hislegacy]

I've only looked at the 15mil jobs created and the Dept. of labour puts it at 14.8. So I'm not sure the "fact checker's claim" that "he created nothing" is going to pan out for people who use numbers instead of opinions.

Key word that most people have the ability to comprehend - CREATED - look again - Joe did NOT CREATE the jobs - the jobs came back after a global pandemic.

White House OMB director repeats 'misleading' claim that Biden created 15 million new jobs

Shalanda Young, director of the Office of Management and Budget, repeated a "misleading" claim that President Biden has added 15 million new jobs since he took office.

www.foxbusiness.com

Several fact-checkers say Biden's 15 million new jobs claim is 'misleading'​

Snopes reported on Thursday that Biden's claim is a "mixture" of true and false.​

​

According to the fact-checking outlet, early data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics found the number of employed individuals increased from around 142.9 million in January 2021, when Biden assumed office, to approximately 157.8 million in February 2024, marking a significant surge of 14.9 million jobs.​

​

However, the outlet said this apparent growth can be "misleading" without considering the broader context. Prior to the COVID-19 pandemic's onset in the U.S., employment figures stood at 152.3 million in February 2020. In the subsequent two months, however, this number plummeted by 21.9 million to 130.4 million.​

 

[BPPLEE]

Key word that most people have the ability to comprehend - CREATED - look again - Joe did NOT CREATE the jobs - the jobs came back after a global pandemic.

White House OMB director repeats 'misleading' claim that Biden created 15 million new jobs

Shalanda Young, director of the Office of Management and Budget, repeated a "misleading" claim that President Biden has added 15 million new jobs since he took office.

www.foxbusiness.com

Several fact-checkers say Biden's 15 million new jobs claim is 'misleading'​

Snopes reported on Thursday that Biden's claim is a "mixture" of true and false.​

​

According to the fact-checking outlet, early data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics found the number of employed individuals increased from around 142.9 million in January 2021, when Biden assumed office, to approximately 157.8 million in February 2024, marking a significant surge of 14.9 million jobs.​

​

However, the outlet said this apparent growth can be "misleading" without considering the broader context. Prior to the COVID-19 pandemic's onset in the U.S., employment figures stood at 152.3 million in February 2020. In the subsequent two months, however, this number plummeted by 21.9 million to 130.4 million.​

They also don’t tell you how many are part time jobs or how many went to migrants.

 

[rambot]

How is ANY of this different to how ANY other president has EVER Stated jobs numbers?

 

[hislegacy]

They also don’t tell you how many are part time jobs or how many went to migrants.

His handlers need to be careful - this is becoming the 'cry wolf' style scenario. At some point even his closest followers will walk away for not being able to know if what comes out of his mouth next will be truth or some type of fantasy.

 

[hislegacy]

How is ANY of this different to how ANY other president has EVER Stated jobs numbers?

He's the first that his loyal minions believe over fact checkers. He is also the first one in quite some time that the press doesn't call him on it - even in the middle of an interview.