Do the scriptures reveal there will be two different raptures for the saints?

[Jan001]

11:2 καὶ τὴν αὐλὴν τὴν ἔσωθεν [outside] τοῦ ναοῦ ἔκβαλε [cast out] ἔξω [out (-side)]...

Revelation 11:1-2

"Cast out" means "to exclude."
IOW, don't include the measurement of the outer court.

By the way, the two witnesses in Revelation 11:3 symbolized the Law and the Prophets. The Jews did not obey the Law and they did not believe their Prophets concerning the coming of their Messiah. That is why they wanted Jesus dead. Luke 16:16

The Rich Man and Lazarus:

Luke 16:28-30 for I have five brothers—that he may warn them, so that they will not also come into this place of torment.’ 29 Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; they should listen to them.’ 30 He said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’

At the transfiguration of Jesus, Peter, James, and John saw Moses and Elijah, who represented the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 17:3

 

[Diamond7]

And if this is true, then what do these two different raptures represent?

All Christians are raptured when they die. The idea of a pre trib rapture is a lot of Christians are taken at once. This could be the result of a massive nuclear war. At the resurrection we will be reunited with our Body. There were actually quite a few Hebrew that were resurrected when Jesus went to Calvary, we do not hear about what happened to them and where they are now.

Matthew 27: 51At that moment the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth quaked and the rocks were split. 52 The tombs broke open, and the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. 53After Jesus’ resurrection, when they had come out of the tombs, they entered the holy city and appeared to many people

 

[Clare73]

All Christians are raptured when they die.

Nowhere in the NT do the apostles teach that all Christians are raptured when they die.

Rather, apostolic teaching is that the rapture (snatching up) occurs at the resurrection (1 Th 4:16-17).

 

[WilliamLhk]

Nowhere in the NT do the apostles teach that all Christians are raptured when they die.

Rather, apostolic teaching is that the rapture (snatching up) occurs at the resurrection (1 Th 4:16-17).

Christians are raptured when they die in the sense that their souls ascend to be with the Lord.

Whereas the term rapture is used more exclusively to apply to the time when their physical dead bodies will be made immortal and will ascend to be with the Lord.

 

[Clare73]

Christians are raptured when they die in the sense that their souls ascend to be with the Lord.

Whereas the term rapture is used more exclusively to apply to the time when their physical dead bodies will be made immortal and will ascend to be with the Lord.

The NT use of the word harpazo (catching away) does not refer to souls, it refers to complete bodies.

 

[Jan001]

When you study the details of the rapture in Thessalonians and compare it to the rapture in Corinthians, it appears these scriptures are describing two distinct rapture events for the saints. And if this is true, then what do these two different raptures represent?

Jesus appears bodily on earth two times. That is all. He will appear the second time, with the clouds accompanying him, which is the same way he left.

Jesus appeared the first time, 2000 years ago, to die so that our sins could be forgiven.

Jesus will appear a second time, at the end of time, to save his people, who are still on earth.

Hebrews 9:28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.


Jesus ascends from the earth to heaven after he rose from the dead:

Acts 1:9-11
After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”

Jesus will descend to earth the at the end of time. Everyone's body is resurrected (John 5:28-29) and then the judgment of the sheep and goats/white throne judgment will take place:

1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Matthew 25:31-46, Revelation 20:11-12

 

[WilliamLhk]

The NT use of the word harpazo (catching away) does not refer to souls, it refers to complete bodies.

Paul used the term to apply to himself in 2 Corinthians 12:2 --

I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up/harpazo to the third heaven.