Originally posted by VOW
Nature is a study in opposites, whether sexes, polarity of magnets, seasons, even daily cycles. A day doesn't follow a day, you can't place two North poles of magnets together, and in order to perpetuate any sexed species, you need male and female. Parthenogenesis is only found in lower life forms. Cyanide occurs in nature, too, but I don't see people lining up to eat it.
This neither makes sense in the context of the question I asked nor does it answer the question. If I misread it, sorry, could you please rephrase it?
This is the verse I was expecting you to post.
L.20:13 -
If a man also lieth with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
This verse should be taken in context with the verses around it, which all describe various adulterous or incestuous relationships. What L.20:13 is saying is that those rules apply to both men and women. Like this:
L.20:10 (normal) -
And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Now, L.20:10 in accordance with my theory on L.20:13 -
And the man that committeth adultery with a woman's husband, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's husband, the adulterers shall surely be put to death.
Homosexuality was frowned upon among the Jews, that much is known, but it is not known that L.20:13 meant what you said it did.
Sounds pretty definitive to me!
See above.
Actually, I think it had more to do with women's exceedingly high death rate in pregnancy and childbirth. The "unclean" laws regarding a menstruating woman and how she must abstain from intercourse following her period, and then be cleansed, was to insure that she would have relations on her most fertile days of the cycle.
It may have something to do with this
in addition to the gender gap.
In actuality, ANY person is an asset, whether homosexual or unborn.
True. I didn't mean my original statement to exclude others.
Incredible. Justifying homosexuality and abortion as a method to ease overcrowding! The black market, wholesale theft and the corrupt politics of many countries destroys more foodstuffs than overcrowding ever will. I'm surprised you didn't advocate letting AIDS run rampant through the population as an external control of "excess humanity."
I justify homosexuality as an act of love. Sorry for the bad phrasing in my original post.
The black market in some countries is the only thing that keeps those countries fed and supplied. Myanmar for example. China to a certain extent as well. Soviet Russia and even modern Russia are also partial examples of this.
Some people, many of them Christians, seem to view AIDS as a way of decreasing the homosexual population. The people who view it as such are absolutely and unequivocably stupid, no question about it. It may be more common among homosexuals, but that is just a coincidence, as all people are equally at risk if they practice unsafe sexual habits. Besides, an enlightened world would not have to worry about AIDS, or any VD, but unfortunately we are not an enlightened world.
p.s. I'm not accussing anyone here of viewing AIDS as the anti-gay weapon of nature's disease arsenal. I was just pointing out that some people do view it as such.
Even a well-placed nuclear weapon would do wonders! You'd have the immediate destruction of life, plus the long-term cancer threat, and even some sterility as well. Much more efficient, wouldn't you say?
I do not advocate the immediate killing of any group of people (although I have this crazy theory that if we made all violent crimes punishable by death we'd have a much smaller number of violent crimes.) As a matter of fact, I don't advocate the killing of any people (except violent criminals, again) who are living and breathing under they're own power. A fetus is not doing that. A fetus is human, a fetus has a soul, and a fetus has a right to be born... but sometimes adoption is not an option, or sometimes the bearer of the child would make a horrible mother, and the father likewise would be a bad parent, assuming the father can even be located, further assuming the father claims any responsibility. Sometimes the child has no hope of surviving at all. It could be stricken with cyclopeia, or progeria, or any number of genetic irregularities. Down Syndrome is the common cold of the genetic world. Not even the common cold, more like the light headache.
Speaking of Down Syndrome and other mental retardation causing problems, if the person can live at least a partially productive life and support themselves with a little bit or no help, then good. I would never say that we should just abort or kill off everyone who isn't genetically perfect.
My view on abortion is as follows: People have a right not to life, but to
A life. If we know we can't give them a chance at having a life, then in my opinion the humane thing to do is to terminate the pregnancy as early as possible. If it's past the second trimester, then I'm at a bit of a loss as to what should be done. Decide how to deal with it on a case by case basis I suppose.
The only way to solve the population problem is through a combination of long term solutions. Abortion is only part of a short term solution, and it does not reduce the world's population by a significant percent.
Long term solutions must be on an international scope, or nearly so, and could be comprised of: government restrictions on number of children each family can have, clear and concise sexual education classes for children rather than the old birds and bees speach, better education on the potential risks of unprotected and/or promiscuous sex (just telling people to wait until marriage does not work, obviously). There are more radical components of my plan as well, some of which may be simply too large or too complex for reality, but they include such things as: relocating the people in the most enfamined and disease-ridden portions of Africa to areas where help is immediately available, while they are gone those portions of Africa are terraformed into fertile land, this terraformation endeavor is then carried out in various places across the globe to increase the total land available that can provide adequate conditions for human life and human food production.
How does this decrease population... er, it doesn't, but this is still something we should consider doing. Basically it was those first three things I said about sex ed. and VASTLY improved family planning that will decrease our numbers over the long term.
