What is the Baptist understanding of the meaning of the 144,000 in Revelations?
Cary.Melvin said:They are only people that are in heaven with Jesus (and the last one was picked in 1935), the rest of us will just have to live in paradise on Earth. I learned that from couple of nice people that came to my door the other day bearing pamplets.
HAHA!Cary.Melvin said:They are only people that are in heaven with Jesus (and the last one was picked in 1935), the rest of us will just have to live in paradise on Earth. I learned that from couple of nice people that came to my door the other day bearing pamplets.
Did she ever tell you why she believed that the Jehovah's Witness "church" was the true church?GreenEyedLady said:HAHA!
My friend was a Jehovah Witness and I would argue with her about EVERYTHING! Finally the Lord pulled her out of that brainwashing thinking!
It is really sad that people actually think that salvation is only limited to a church.
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This is what we believe. They are men, and they are virgins. I have heard some say its the Jews, but don't think there is a verse stating that. Unless someone else knows? Anyone?
Bleechers-Cary.Melvin said:Did she ever tell you why she believed that the Jehovah's Witness "church" was the true church?
I can't believe I'm telling this story twice in one day! Anyway:Cary.Melvin said:They are only people that are in heaven with Jesus (and the last one was picked in 1935), the rest of us will just have to live in paradise on Earth. I learned that from couple of nice people that came to my door the other day bearing pamplets.
It sounds like your friend is a Jehovah's Witness. It is a religion that was founded by an American man named Charles Taze Russell in the 19th Century. They deny the trinity and claim that Jesus was Micheal the Arch-Angel incarnate.tateziwin said:Yes, thanks guys but anyone able to enlighten me as to what the meaning of it is? My friend says he can't believe cos only 144,000 get saved so what's the point.
I don't know about Baptists, but Catholics don't see them as Christians because of their views of Jesus.
The Big reason they are not Christians is that they deny the divinity of Jesus Christ.bleechers said:They are outside the pale of accepted Christianity.
Whatever you may think about Catholics, They do believe that Jesus is God.bleechers said:For many Baptists, the scores of Catholic doctrines which reject the knowledge of salvation by faith in Christ's finished work, place them outside the pale as well.
Thank you for the correction.bleechers said:For the record, it's "Russell".
This is a very ugly statement to give to someone seeking truth and certainly does not represent the Baptist belief.Cary.Melvin said:They are only people that are in heaven with Jesus (and the last one was picked in 1935), the rest of us will just have to live in paradise on Earth. I learned that from couple of nice people that came to my door the other day bearing pamplets.
Roo6339 said:isn't this the number of people that will be saved after the rapture?
Whatever you may think about Catholics, They do believe that Jesus is God.
They are from the 12 tribes, they are Jews, not Gentiles. Show him where it says that 144,000 are men and Jews at that! I went over and over with my friend about this verse. She used to tell me that the word men and virgins is "symbolic" to mean "pure people" When I told her that the verse would then contradic itself. The bible never uses a verse to mean both literal and symbolic. Its either literal or symbolic, so I told her ..........either 144,000 is literal, like she believed, or its also symbolic. If its literal, then the entire verse has to be taken literally, if its symbolic then the number must be taken that ways also.tateziwin said:Yes, thanks guys but anyone able to enlighten me as to what the meaning of it is? My friend says he can't believe cos only 144,000 get saved so what's the point.
And do not forget that Revelation and Daniel need to be studied @ the same time. THey go hand and hand and will explain one another