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Understood, but what does that have to do with us? Its His Kingdom being set up, not ours. Our day is done.
We Christians are His subjects.
We will live how God always intended humans to live. Isaiah 2:2-5, +
 
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We will live how God always intended humans to live
Yes the great cleanup will come, but why are people looking for that day, when the Kingdom is already here, allowing us to leave the authority of the powers and principalities instead of living under their rule. We are free to follow His will, not our own or that of the rebellious elohim.
 
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why are people looking for that day, when the Kingdom is already here,
You; and most people need a reality check. We are still under secular rule now.
Only some kind of dramatic event will change that. The Prophetic Word tells us all about a yet to happen worldwide disaster.
Why don't you know about it?
 
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Like the dawn, it covers the earth........
Joel 1:15 The day is near, the Day of the Lord: it comes as a mighty destruction from Almighty God.

Joel 2:1-5 Blow the trumpet in Israel, sound the alarm in Jerusalem. Let all who live in the Land tremble, for the day of the Lord is coming – it is close at hand. A Day of darkness and clouds. Like [at] the dawn, an innumerable host comes across the land, such as never was and will never be again. A fire goes before them, leaving wasteland behind. With a great noise they leap mountains and consume everything to stubble.

Joel 2:6-11 At the sight of them, all the nations are in anguish. They march in line, none swerving against any defence. They rush upon cities and enter houses through the windows. The earth quakes and the sky is darkened. The Lord thunders at the head of His army, beyond number are those who obey His command. The Day of the Lord is great and dreadful, who can endure it?

Joel 1:6-12 & 19-20 this invading host destroys trees and crops. Fire has burnt the pastures and trees. All the streams have dried up.

The Day of the Lord, as described by Joel is not Armageddon, at the Return of Jesus or at the Great White Throne judgement. It is plainly an event before then, also prophesied in Isaiah 2:12-21, Revelation 6:12-17, Ezekiel 7:2-9: + over other 100 times.

Joel uses the metaphor of an army to describe how this destruction moves across the earth as it rotates- ‘with the dawn’. As nations turn to face the sun, the effects of a Coronal Mass Ejection- sunstrike will hit them. Initially, it will strike the earth as a light flash [Isaiah 30:26a] within 8 minutes, then the highly charged cosmic particles arrive about 24 hours later, causing immense destruction and deaths. Fires and volcanic eruptions will result in smoke and ash clouds, covering the sky. Isaiah 29:5-6, Psalms 18:7-15, Jeremiah 4:23-28

It will be an event ‘such has never been and will never be again; NOT caused by man.

Judah [the current State of Israel] will be badly affected- Hosea 8:14, Ezekiel 20:45-48, Isaiah 4:3-4, Zephaniah 1:1-18
And the Lord’s enemies: Isaiah 22:5-14, Psalms 83:1-18, Isaiah 63:1-6, Jeremiah 12:14

Deuteronomy 32:34-43 says how He will act when His enemies ‘foot will slip”. That is they make a mistake. That mistake will be their instigating an attack against Israel.

Malachi 4:1-3 Surely the day of the Lord is coming, it will burn like a furnace. All the evildoers will be as stubble, they will be burned up. They will be ashes under your feet. But for you, who revere My Name, righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. You will rejoice and prevail over the wicked on the Day that I act against them.

THEN the many prophecies that describe the migration of all true believers into the Promised Land will come to pass. This great exodus of His faithful Christian people will fulfil the promises that God made to the Patriarchs and they will, at last be a people that will be a ‘light to the nations’. They will prepare themselves and the world for the Return of Jesus. Ezekiel 35:11-30, Ezekiel 36:8-12, Deuteronomy 30:1-10, Zechariah 10:6-12, Isaiah 46:27-28, Ezekiel 39:25-29, Zephaniah 10:6-12

That Jesus is not yet present at this time, is clear from the many verses saying: ‘You will know that I am the Lord, when... And how it ‘will be as in the days of Egypt’. Ezekiel 14:6-11, Ezekiel 39:22, Joel 2:27, Isaiah 41:20.
Reference: REB, NIV. Some verses abridged
 
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You; and most people need a reality check. We are still under secular rule now.
Only some kind of dramatic event will change that. The Prophetic Word tells us all about a yet to happen worldwide disaster.
Why don't you know about it?
Of course it will happen but one can leave allegiance to that way of the world at any time. His will be done... not our's.
 
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It was an odd one. The majority of it was in the south and southwest rather than the north. Omen? Twice in the last 8 months.
Right up there with Blood Moons and Mayan calendars.
 
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So you think I'm a nutter?
I don't. I just think you're wrong.
As Bible prophecy does tell us that a Coronal Mass Ejection, an explosion of the sun’s surface is what the Lord will use on His Day of wrath
Well no, it doesn't. That's what you reckon it means, but that isn't what it says.
Isaiah 30:26a, Psalms 50:1-2, Malachi 4:1, +, we should know what a CME is
The term "coronal mass ejection" kinda gives it away. The sun ejects a great load or coronal mass, the stuff the corona is made of, into space at tremendous velocity. Most of it consists of charged particles, that arrive here in a great electricvally charged cloud. When they hit the atmnosphere, they play hob with RF propagatron, induce electrical charges in a lot of stuff you'd rather not have that happen to, and generally make a mess of things. They also charge up the ionosphere so that it poduces the Northern Light, which are amazing and beautiful.
Briefly: On the Appointed Day, Isaiah 10:17, the sun will explode out a huge, earth directed mass of superheated hydrogen plasma.
OK, so far so good...
The initial super bright flash
No, visible light isn't really one of the effects of a CME.

Electro- Magnetic Pulse will arrive here within 8 minutes
Nah, EMPs and CMEs are two diferent critters, and they don't really go together. The electrical effects of a CME may be like those of an EMP, and they both screwup electronic gear, but they're different critters.

, causing armed nuke weapons to explode
Not likely. In fact, they'd be more likely to fry the nuke's firing mechanism so it wouldn't go off if you wanted it to.
, Jeremiah 49:35,; all electrical and modern communication systems will be destroyed.
Possible, but unlikely, for a variety of boring electronic reasons.

The EMP microwave effect will also cause tectonic plate movement
Sorry, that one just comes under the heading of "rubbish".
The sun will be darkened by being obscured by the approaching mass
Nope. Again, that just isn't the way it works.

and the moon will shine bright red from the reflection of the seven times brighter sun flash.
Which didn't happen.

24 hours after the explosion, the main mass of superheated Hydrogen Plasma will strike the earth, directly onto the Middle East, Zephaniah 2:4, wiping out the entire population
And now you've entered the realm of pure imagination.
 
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And now you've entered the realm of pure imagination.
Bible Prophecy is not imagination, unless you have to make it so in order to avoid having to admit the reality of what God has said He intends to do. Really it just a case of denial and an induced mental blockage.

A Coronal Mass Ejection does emit light, mostly when it happens, as a flash.
The moon reflects any light. Small CME's don't reflect much, if at all.
Prophecy tells us the sun will be darkened, exactly how is not explained. Whats your guess?
The EMP microwaves will penetrate to the depths of the mountains Deuteronomy 32:22 and every mountain and island will be dislodged from their place. Revelation 6:13b
Jeremiah 49:35 says the Lord will break the chief weapon of Elam's [Iran[ might....... Also Joel 3:4, Habakkuk 3:15, Psalms 7:12-16, + tell us that the Lord will make their weapons recoil upon their own heads.

Try not to contradict scripture, it isn't a good look for you.
 
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Bible Prophecy is not imagination
And your imagination isn't Bible prophecy. I'm afraid you're over free with saying "the Bible says..." and then finishing the sentence with something the Bible doesn't say, but that is simply your belief.
, unless you have to make it so in order to avoid having to admit the reality of what God has said He intends to do. Really it just a case of denial and an induced mental blockage.
Give me one citation where the Bible mentons a corona mass ejection, or CME, and I'll concede your point.
A Coronal Mass Ejection does emit light, mostly when it happens, as a flash.
THe solar flare emits light, the CME itself does not.
Prophecy tells us the sun will be darkened, exactly how is not explained.
Precisely!
Whats your guess?
I don't deal in guesses when I have no data.
The EMP microwaves will penetrate to the depths of the mountains Deuteronomy 32:22
The Bible's mentions of EMPs and microwaves are conspicuous by their absence there, aren't they?
Try not to contradict scripture, it isn't a good look for you.
Your additions to Scripture aren't Scripture, mate.
 
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Give me one citation where the Bible mentons a corona mass ejection, or CME, and I'll concede your point.
Isaiah 30:26a says; The sun will shine seven times brighter......
This can only be explained by an explosion of the suns surface; an actual Coronal explosion, which usually does eject huge amounts of superheated plasma into space.

What I see as pure denial, is the total rejection of the possibility of the Lord using the sun to fulfil Bible Prophecy.

Where does the tremendous heat that Malachi 4:1 come from?
What is Psalms 50:1-3 referring to? In the NT, as well; many Prophesies mention the Lord using fire in Judgment. 1 Cor 3:13, 2 Peter 3:7, Hebrews 10:27

Regarding the known fact of Tectonic Plate movement, it would not take much to cause the mountains and islands to move from their place, as subduction creep builds up massive tension, then sudden release happens.

Friends: the Sixth Seal is the next Prophesied event. Could be any day now, as we see by the intractable situation in the Middle East.
 
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Could be any day now
Again people have been saying that since Paul started writing. the world coming to an end or fulfilling scripture has been cyclic ever since. Perhaps it is incentive to seek truth. People seem more concerned over end of days which they have no control over, rather than their own end of days which they do.
 
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Isaiah 30:26a says; The sun will shine seven times brighter......
This can only be explained by an explosion of the suns surface; an actual Coronal explosion, which usually does eject huge amounts of superheated plasma into space.
In other words, you're stating your conclusion as though it was what the Bible actually says. Sorry, but a fig for your conclusion.
What I see as pure denial
Yep. I think your who "CME" rigamarole is a load of rubbish, and to equate it to a Bible prophecy is simply nonsense.
, is the total rejection of the possibility of the Lord using the sun to fulfil Bible Prophecy.
The Lord will do just as He pleases. But deciding that you know how He's going to do something becuse it sounds like that to you is simply your opinion, worth the price charged. Your opinion isn't holy writ, oranything like it.
Where does the tremendous heat that Malachi 4:1 come from?
The sun. The center of the earth. A collision with a large astral object. God just commands it to be so. Other. "It's gotta be a CME" is just a severly ill-foundednotion.
Regarding the known fact of Tectonic Plate movement, it would not take much to cause the mountains and islands to move from their place, as subduction creep builds up massive tension, then sudden release happens.
Microwaves? EMPs? Seriously?

Trying too hard, mate..
 
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Trying too hard, mate..
Better that; than wasting effort to just reject and denigrate others who make a genuine attempt to understand the Prophetic Word.
Paul says in 1 Thess 5:4 We should not be in the dark, about what God has planned for our future.
 
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Better that; than wasting effort to just reject and denigrate others who make a genuine attempt to understand the Prophetic Word.
Not when you invent stuff andsay it's scripture
Paul says in 1 Thess 5:4 We should not be in the dark, about what God has planned for our future.
He didn't say just make stuff up.
 
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"How the Japan Earthquake Shortened Days on Earth"
BTW, I stand corrected. Apparently your assertions are true, the quake resulted in microscopic changes in rotational speed and tilt. But even so, mea culpa, you were right and I was wrong.
 
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BTW, I stand corrected. Apparently your assertions are true, the quake resulted in microscopic changes in rotational speed and tilt. But even so, mea culpa, you were right and I was wrong.
I learn things from all of you and am interested in Japan because of my family. If one earthquake can affect the earth just think of how many earthquakes will happen when the nukes drop. One will find a weakness in the earth's crust.
 
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