Russia is ready to “swallow” Europe whole?

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Why just the US? Everyone is "under the judgement of the Lord". Including Russia.

To whom much is given much is required. (Luke 12:48)

They'll be judged after the US as the Lord uses the enemies of the US to bring forth judgement.
 
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So you are in favor of starting WW3 then, right?

Does this mean you would like to see your children go off to war in Europe?
Russia will not start WW3 simply because the leader and his gang of thugs are cowards and in it for money and control. Those guys stand for nothing, they back down immediately when they face greater power and they have a chance to lose the money and control. They are the first to save their own skin, first to jump a that plane away from Moscow as they did when the Prikochew etc dude was rebelling.

Besides that Russia has always respected power and they get provoked by western current behavior where we kind of judge and boycott but kind of not. Whine like men who have lost all testosterone. If NATO had sent troops to Ukraine, drawn the line to their borders, took control of the situation and stated that Russia will not cross that border and neither will Nato - it would have been all over. Now they have chosen the path of most casualties, slowly feeding war marchine with more bodies while keeping Ukraine from not winning nor losing, keeping Russia provoked and motivated to try more with each fearful comments from western leaders.

I have almost a lifetime experience with Russia and you make friends with them by standing your ground, being strong, respecting and setting boundaries your are willing to fight for. On the other hand they despise you when they smell fear and you are not ready to fight for your ground.

Look at Turkey: they shot down Russian MiG the moment it entered their airspace. What followed was close talks and they are now best friends with Russia. If only our leaders would understand that. There would be 500000 more people alive today.
 
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As a born again Christian believer I understand also that the conflict and its parties are led by secular parties and the whole mess is a disaster for every side and something that should not ever exist. Therefore commenting on it is kind of waste of time but interesting debate anyway.
 
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They? Are you not part of the US or is the location you've given not correct?

I'm not part of the darkness that is ruling this nation as I'm a citizen of the Kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ and as such I'm just passing thru and am not of this world.
 
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I'm not part of the darkness that is ruling this nation as I'm a citizen of the Kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ and as such I'm just passing thru and am not of this world.
Do you vote here?
 
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Do you vote here?

It's a waste of time to vote so no I don't participate in that sham

There have not been fair and free elections in this nation for several election cycles now, so I have better things to do that to go vote
 
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It's a waste of time to vote so no I don't participate in that sham
I will then discount the value of your input since you won’t deign to back it up by voting your conscience.
There have not been fair and free elections in this nation for several election cycles now, so I have better things to do that to go vote
Which “nation” might this be?
 
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I'm not part of the darkness that is ruling this nation as I'm a citizen of the Kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ and as such I'm just passing thru and am not of this world.
You do understand the the US is a republic, right?
 
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You get what you vote for. Dominant voting forces all across the West just don't care, even if it means World War 3. Mostly they're just sleeping.

Russia announced their true intentions shortly before their start of the war.

The Ukraine war started on 24-Feb-2022. On 17-Dec-2021 Russia made these demands:

1. NATO out of Eastern Europe.
2. America reduced to a regional role only.

Or else there will be a military-technical alternative. We got the military-technical alternative in Ukraine. Ukraine is merely the start.

What Does the Russian Ultimatum to the West Mean? | Desk Russie

Given that the Russian army is not up to the job of taking all of Eastern Europe, the most likely scenario is nuclear war. Any use of tactical nukes always means WW3 in war games. So we are headed for WW3. Russia just needs an excuse.

Currently, it looks like an excuse may come via Iran and Israel. That situation could blow up big. We already know from past comments that the next big war there will terminate countries. It will probably involve chemical weapons and likely nuclear weapons from Israel.
 
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You seemed to be confused into thinking you live in a kingdom.

I don't think he's confused. Post #47 clearly states "the kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ" of which he's a part of. I am also of that kingdom, and it is an eternal kingdom. Meanwhile my dual citizenship is in U.S. but that along with all other nations will pass away.
No confusion, because for those saved and elect of the Lord Jesus he said "the kingdom of God is within you" and Daniel writes, "And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever"
 
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"Ukraine military chief’s chilling warning to the West about Russia’s threat

Russia is ready to “swallow” Europe whole, a top Ukrainian commander has warned - less than two months after he led a costly evacuation from a key city on the eastern frontline.
Speaking to The Independent from an undisclosed location in Donetsk, deputy commander of Ukraine’s 3rd Assault Brigade, Maksym Zhorin, issued a troubling warning to Kyiv’s Western partners.
The West, he said, must urgently prepare. “Create serious defence systems that could counteract Russia because it will undoubtedly open its mouth and try to swallow the rest of Europe,” he warned."

Ukrainian propaganda? If Russia struggles to make small advancements in Ukraine, how shall it "swallow Europe whole?" Russia could nuke Europe and do it in that way, but then it wouldn't be fit to "swallow" at all!

Europe is already rearming after decades of neglect partly because of Russia's aggression but partly also as a result of the threat of a Trump Whitehouse abandoning NATO.

Russian conventional warfare seems quite clumsy and ineffective given the vast amounts of men and material available to them. Their tactic is to grind their enemies down. That would not work in a shooting war with NATO.

Ukraine needs to keep fear levels high to keep the support coming and they are in a tough fight that requires our support. But Russia could not swallow Europe based on its current performance.
 
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"Ukraine military chief’s chilling warning to the West about Russia’s threat

Russia is ready to “swallow” Europe whole, a top Ukrainian commander has warned - less than two months after he led a costly evacuation from a key city on the eastern frontline.
Speaking to The Independent from an undisclosed location in Donetsk, deputy commander of Ukraine’s 3rd Assault Brigade, Maksym Zhorin, issued a troubling warning to Kyiv’s Western partners.
The West, he said, must urgently prepare. “Create serious defence systems that could counteract Russia because it will undoubtedly open its mouth and try to swallow the rest of Europe,” he warned."

Ukrainian propaganda? If Russia struggles to make small advancements in Ukraine, how shall it "swallow Europe whole?" Russia could nuke Europe and do it in that way, but then it wouldn't be fit to "swallow" at all!
Yes, Putin will take every land they can. Even America. This is no surprise. Sadly in America this can happen.
 
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Yes, Putin will take every land they can. Even America. This is no surprise. Sadly in America this can happen.

There is the old rumor that Russia wanted Alaska back, and even not so old.

"Jan 23, 2024,

The U.S. State Department has dismissed reports that Russian President Vladimir Putin's revanchism may extend as far as Alaska after the Kremlin issued a new decree regarding historic Russian real estate holdings abroad.
"I speak for all of us in the U.S. government to say that certainly, he is not getting it back," State Department principal deputy spokesperson Vedant Patel said to laughter during a press briefing on Monday when asked about Moscow's purported claim on Alaska.
Putin last week signed a new measure directing and funding the presidential administration and the Foreign Ministry in "searching for real estate in the Russian Federation, the former Russian Empire, the former USSR, proper registration of rights...and legal protection of this property."

The scope and intention of the measure is not clear. Newsweek reached out to the Kremlin by email for comment.

Ultranationalist bloggers seized on the vaguely worded document to call for fresh Russian aggression against countries that now control once-Russian land, among them the United States, NATO states in eastern and central Europe, and several Central Asian nations."

(And here we appear to have Ukrainian propaganda, as I said all sides use propaganda)

"Pro-Ukrainian social media accounts, meanwhile, incorrectly claimed that Putin had used the decree to declare the 1867 Russian sale of Alaska to the U.S. as illegal or illegitimate."

 
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They don't possess such missiles though.
Your comment surprises me as many within the US military and defence industry have raised their concerns within a number of US Congressional hearings:
https://www.congress.gov/event/118th-congress/house-event/LC71578/text

“ . . .Before we begin, I believe it is useful to revisit the
history of hypersonic weapons development. Despite leading the
development of this technology in the 1970s and 1980s, the U.S.
foolishly decided not to pursue hypersonic weapons. Russia and
China made the opposite decision.

Instead of mimicking our restraint as we hoped, they
developed and deployed increasingly sophisticated and numerous
hypersonic capabilities of various types, including nuclear-
capable and orbital hypersonic weapons. As a result, our
adversaries have the advantage. Their hypersonic capabilities
provide them novel ways to hold our homeland and our deployed
forces at risk. ...”
 
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Especially when it was Russia teaming up with the Nazis to invade Poland that got us WW2 in the first place.
To correct your understanding of the start of WW2, the United Kingdom declared war on Germany on 3rd September 1939, which was two days after Germany invaded Poland. On the same day, France also declared war on Germany. As for the Soviet Union, they invaded Poland from the east on 17th September 1939, which was 16 days after Nazi Germany’s invasion from the west.

During the late 1700’s, Poland faced a series of partitions orchestrated by Russia, Prussia, and Austria. These partitions progressively reduced Poland’s size until, after the final partition, the state of Poland ceased to exist. Russia played a significant role in this process, annexing substantial portions of Polish territory. The partitions lasted until Poland’s restoration as an independent nation in 1918.

Without excusing Soviet Russia’s decision to annex Poland at the start of WW2, as Russia had only lost Poland 20 years earlier, having owned much of modern day Poland from 1793 – 1918, this made the decision to keep parts of Poland out of German hands and easy decision to make.
 
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