Facts to disprove theory of evolution

sfs said:

Which means that the Flood failed since the Nephilim are still around afterwards (Numbers 13:33).

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I suppose it did in a way, but God soon took care of these stragglers

Estrid said:

It failed in there was no flood at all.

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Oh really ............ What makes you think this ?

Apple Eye said:

Oh really ............ What makes you think this ?

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Because we have no evidence for a global flood for one thing.

Apple Eye said:

Oh really ............ What makes you think this ?

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It's what the Earth itSelf is showing. There was no global flood.

Apple Eye said:

Oh really ............ What makes you think this (that there was no global flood) ?

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Paranthetic remark added for clarity.

The complete absence of any evidence of a global flood. Not just a matter of ambiguous evidence, or limited evidence, or uncertain evidence, but the total absence of any evidence that a global flood occurred.

Quite a lot of evidence of sizeable floods that could have been perceived as global by the people of that time who had little or no appreciation of the size of the planet, but no evidence of a global flood.

I don't want to get involved in dealing with a Gish Gallop, but I would be happy to explain the top three pieces of evidence that you think constitute proof of a global flood. For the purposes of this offer Scripture does not constitute evidence. I am looking for examples of independent evidence for the scriptural claims.

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

Question in response: If God did create the world, why would He make it one way and yet allow a book to be written that says He did an entirely different way to the world He has us inhabit?

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Excellent question.

He didn't.

Since one of those two scenarios is wrong, I have to assume He didn't.

He did just what He said He did, in the order He did it, etc.

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

Right is a matter of morality, not scientific fact.

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A scientific fact can be wrong.

And if a scientific fact can be wrong, a scientific fact can be right.

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

Fun fact: there was no such thing as the Nephilim.

So I'll ask the same question again: If God did create the world, why would He make it one way and yet allow a book to be written that says He did an entirely different way to the world He has us inhabit?

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By way of example, He made the earth before the sun.

It's scientists that put the sun before the earth.

Then they blame it on His documentation.

sfs said:

Which means that the Flood failed since the Nephilim are still around afterwards (Numbers 13:33).

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The Nephilim were the offspring of the fallen angels and their human wives.

dlamberth said:

What the Earth itSelf as Created by God with His own hands is showing us paints a very different picture than does the ancient creation story of a nomadic tribe of desert nomads.

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Scientists also paint a very different picture than does your "ancient creation story."

So what?

And for the record, if the "Earth itSelf" is telling you A nomadic tribe of desert nomads wrote a creation story, then your "Earth itSelf" must be referring to someone else, since the Jews comprised twelve distinct tribes -- not one.

And if you insist your "Earth itSelf" is referencing the Jews, it looks like your "Earth itSelf" is shifting that decimal point, doesn't it?

dlamberth said:

Yes.

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It probably wants the Bible to be wrong.

After all, the Bible prophesies it's destruction and replacement.

Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

2 Peter 3: 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

dlamberth said:

This sounds to me very much like a Greek/Roman Pagan type of God sitting high up in a cloud somewhere dishing out punishment.

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I can assure you no "Greek/Roman anything" can dish out punishment as well as God can.

Ophiolite said:

For the purposes of this offer Scripture does not constitute evidence. I am looking for examples of independent evidence for the scriptural claims.

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Put that Sword down and meet me on my terms ... right?

Matthew 27:42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.

AV1611VET said:

The Nephilim were the offspring of the fallen angels and their human wives.

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Which has what to do with my statement?

sfs said:

Which has what to do with my statement?

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Recessive genes.

Hans Blaster said:

Your identification of Tour's specialty was incorrect. I corrected it. He is irrelevant to this discussion. And that "reporters" story is blatantly phony.

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The writer is not claiming to be a reporter. You still have not answered the very basic question. What is factually incorrect about the article? And what gives you the right to declare "phony"? Because it does not agree with the evolutionist "theory"?

Aussie Pete said:

The writer is not claiming to be a reporter. You still have not answered the very basic question. What is factually incorrect about the article? And what gives you the right to declare "phony"? Because it does not agree with the evolutionist "theory"?

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As has been explained to you, the factuality of "James's" statements cannot be determined. (Posts #490 & #558)

Perhaps you can enlighten us in the matter by explaining why you think what he said does not agree with evolutionary theory.

Estrid said:

It failed in there was no flood at all.

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You were there?

Or was there here?

(As uniformitarianism teaches.)