Russia says deeper U.S. hybrid war using Ukraine will end in Vietnam-style humiliation

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That would be nice.

All that needs to happen is for the Russian troops to go back to Russia and for proper reparations made to Ukraine. Then the International Court could investigate the atrocities committed by Russian forces and the war criminals brought to justice. Simple.

I won't be expecting divine intervention.

Zelenskyy could also surrender and/or desire a truce and make terms of peace. Russia stays in the east and Crimea. But he won't do that. He is insistent that he wants to retake every inch. That will cost thousands of lives and is probably not doable without direct NATO intervention which then would result in catastrophe for all.
 
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But if I did it for payment that would make me a bourgeois capitalist! Not to mention the government might get upset.

To be honest, I would hope the war either stop, or Jesus return again and put a stop to all war.
Ukraine is going to need more shells for that to happen.
 
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Ukraine is going to need more shells for that to happen.

Fine, fine...let's just make sure we get them the good kind, so that we can end all this insanity once and for all:

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Zelenskyy could also surrender and/or desire a truce and make terms of peace. Russia stays in the east and Crimea. But he won't do that. He is insistent that he wants to retake every inch. That will cost thousands of lives and is probably not doable without direct NATO intervention which then would result in catastrophe for all.
Just think of all the good people you’ll be saving by surrendering to us, your very nice neighbors who don’t like who you’ve been keeping company with.

Sure, like that’s ever going to happen.
 
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Just think of all the good people you’ll be saving by surrendering to us, your very nice neighbors who don’t like who you’ve been keeping company with.

Sure, like that’s ever going to happen.


Because of this:

"Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov also reiterated on Saturday that there are currently no grounds for peace talks due to Kyiv’s formal refusal to negotiate with Moscow.

In 2022, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed a decree formally declaring the prospect of any Ukrainian talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin “impossible” while leaving the door open to talks with what he called “another president of Russia”."

Then there's this. There's a good amount of Ukrainians in the east that don't want the war, and the really strong war supporters are in the west.

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"Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov also reiterated on Saturday that there are currently no grounds for peace talks due to Kyiv’s formal refusal to negotiate with Moscow.

In 2022, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed a decree formally declaring the prospect of any Ukrainian talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin “impossible” while leaving the door open to talks with what he called “another president of Russia”."
Neighbor comes over and punches homeowner in the nose, then complains that victim won’t talk to them, to settle things.
 
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Russia reckons the US got humiliated in Afghanistan?
Russia?
Do these people own a history book?
Even though Russia was humiliated by the withdrawal of their troops from Afghanistan, the two governments of Russia and Afghanistan maintained cordial relations for a further four years, which is in stark difference to how US forces were forced by the Taliban to leave hastily; before the US withdrawal, those countries who initially supported military intervention into Afghanistan eventually realised that there was no value with maintaining their military forces within a country whose people did not want them there.

So now we see the government of Afghanistan beginning to cooperate economically with not only Russia but also with China – only time will tell how this will work out for the rest of us.

Russia’s Growing Ties With Afghanistan Are More Symbolism Than Substance

Taliban Attendance at Beijing Forum Signals China’s Policy of Engagement

Joint Statement of the Second Informal Meeting on Afghanistan Between Foreign Ministers of China, Russia, Pakistan and Iran
 
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