Absolute proof.. can't deny.. the earth is flat

Apple Sky said:

Tomorrow, I'm off for now

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So am I. Goodnight

Apple Sky said:

In reality, however, the Earth is an extended flat plane and all the stars and other celestial bodies rotate East to West around Polaris, the only non-moving star in the sky situated perfectly in line directly above the North Pole.

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The sun and the moon rotate with the firmament? Or do they somehow defy the firmament's rotation? How does this work - show me a functional flat earth model that works for everything we observe, not just for one thing.

Phil G said:

I guarantee you will not be able to explain that video to me at all

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Your right I can't explain how this phenomenon works, from what I can gather it's down to ones perspective & where a person is on the earth like in Australia you cant see Polaris.

Globe Earthers are taught the reason that the North Pole Star cannot be seen from southern locations like Australia or New Zealand is because it is hidden behind the supposed curvature of their globular Earth. Similar to what is taught about boats disappearing beyond the horizon, they claim these boats and the Pole Star are disappearing behind the physical curvature of a globe, and insist if the Earth was truly a stationary plane that Australians should have no trouble viewing Polaris...

@Apple Sky

Did you know that NASA was just a reaction to the Soviet space program success? If its a conspiracy, would not it be cheaper to simply debunk the Soviets and prove there is no space?

trophy33 said:

The sun and the moon rotate with the firmament? Or do they somehow defy the firmament's rotation? How does this work - show me a functional flat earth model that works for everything we observe, not just for one thing.

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One of the more bizarre and confusing questions frequently asked by globe believers is, "why are there no photographs or models showing a Flat Earth?" What they mean by this is why are there no photographs taken from "outer-space" which show the entire flat Earth in one frame similar to how NASA images show the entire globe Earth? To begin with, we do not pretend to know how far our Earth plane extends outwards, whether it terminates with an edge, some kind of barrier, or reaches out into infinity, so when globe believers ask this question they are making an assumption that the flat Earth is just some object floating in space similar to the way NASA presents the globe. There are many cartoon depictions of such silly flat Earth's floating in space put out by the farcical gate-keepers at The Flat Earth Society and others, but these images do not represent the claims of genuine globe skeptics. We simply posit that through objective and empirical means the Earth is demonstrably a stationary level plane devoid of any curvature which proves the prevailing globe Earth theory to be scientifically impossible...

trophy33 said:

@Apple Sky

Did you know that NASA was just a reaction to the Soviet space program success? If its a conspiracy, would not it be cheaper to simply debunk the Soviets and prove there is no space?

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No, because NASA wouldn't have been able to rip off the gullible masses by Billions & Billions of dollars + at the same time hide God, as these two things are what NASA's main objectives are.

Apple Sky said:

No, because NASA wouldn't have been able to rip off the gullible masses by Billions & Billions of dollars + at the same time hide God, as these two things are what NASA's main objectives are.

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You do not understand. NASA did not decide it will exist and take billions of dollars. The US public and politicians did, because Soviets sent the first satellite to space and later even the first man.

How did the Soviets do it, in the first place?

Apple Sky said:

No, because NASA wouldn't have been able to rip off the gullible masses by Billions & Billions of dollars + at the same time hide God, as these two things are what NASA's main objectives are.

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Can you refer me to NASA founding documents (or even current ones) saying that their main objective is to hide God? You cannot just make such things up, its a sin to bear a false witness.

Here are the real ones:

Three related questions frequently asked by people first coming across this subject, all of which share similar answers, are what is over, under, and outside of the Flat Earth? The shortest and most honest answer is that ultimately we don't know what is above, below, and beyond the Earth. In reality, globe believers themselves also don't know what exists in the deep recesses of the Earth anymore than they know what exists in the depths of their infinite vacuum space, but they are given definitive answers about both in the form of stories and CGI images by their heliocentric priests. As one of their own, Richard Feynman, eloquently stated however: "I would rather have questions that cannot be answered, than answers that cannot be questioned"..

Apple Sky said:

"I would rather have questions that cannot be answered, than answers that cannot be questioned"..

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The problem is not with you questioning physics or astronomy, the problem with you is that you ignore the answers, lie and in the same time spread the flat earth nonsense without any evidence and contrary to evidence.

trophy33 said:

Can you refer me to NASA founding documents (or even current ones) saying that their main objective is to hide God? You cannot just make such things up, its a sin to bear a false witness.

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This has always been their objective ever since Copernicus.

Apple Sky said:

This has always been their objective ever since Copernicus.

Nicolaus Copernicus - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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I did not ask for wikipedia about Copernicus. Answer my question properly - show me the links or stop lying.

Why are you even on Christian forums, when you use so much deception and making things up? You really need to start to behave more ethically.

trophy33 said:

The problem is not with you questioning physics or astronomy, the problem with you is that you ignore the answers, lie and in the same time believe flat earth without any evidence and contrary to evidence.

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There is no evidence for a ball earth or a Flat earth as we don't really know, only God knows & this is why I take his word for it.

trophy33 said:

Why are you even on Christian forums, when you use so much deception and making things up? You really need to start to behave more ethically.

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I could ask the same about you.

Apple Sky said:

I could ask the same about you.

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No, you could not.

Apple Sky said:

There is no evidence for a ball earth or a Flat earth as we don't really know, only God knows & this is why I take his word for it.

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You are lying again, we have shown you plenty of evidence. You just always start talking about something else, hoping the evidence will be forgotten - the most childish tactics.

Apple Sky said:

There is no evidence for a ball earth or a Flat earth as we don't really know, only God knows & this is why I take his word for it.

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There is plenty of evidence for a globe earth, but you won't accept it.

The Bible, God's word, does not tell us what shape the earth is. It reveals God and tells us what we need to know about him and salvation. Neither a flat earth, nor the Covid vaccine, has anything at all to do with that. If you think they have, you need to read the NT.
There are testimonies from Christians, God's own children, about the moon landings and the shape of the earth - and you call them liars.

Apple Sky said:

What they mean by this is why are there no photographs taken from "outer-space" which show the entire flat Earth in one frame similar to how NASA images show the entire globe Earth?

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No, that is not what we mean by that. What you have posted is a strawman fallacy. @trophy33 asked for a functional flat earth model that works for everything we observe, not just for one thing. You can't provide one because there isn't one, and that isn't just because flat earthers can't agree on the details (there is no agreement as to how high the sun is, even though basic trigonometry should give them an answer). Whatever model is settled on, once you put it into a simulation, nothing appears as we observe in reality.

Strong in Him said:

There is plenty of evidence for a globe earth, but you won't accept it.

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Show me it then.

Strong in Him said:

There are testimonies from Christians, God's own children, about the moon landings and the shape of the earth - and you call them liars.

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How do you know for sure that they are telling the truth ?