• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Cupid goes Catholic: New faith-based dating show brings faith and matchmaking together

Secular dating shows like “The Bachelor,” “Farmer Wants a Wife,” and “Love Is Blind” are among a plethora of programs that aim to bring singles together. But what would it look like to add faith to matchmaking in a dating show? CatholicMatch, one of the first Catholic dating sites, seeks to do just that with the launch of “The Catholic Dating Show.”

Earlier this year, CatholicMatch released a new platform called “Relate.” This platform is meant to bring users together for weekly live, virtual events such as trivia nights, discussions with prominent Catholic speakers, and “The Catholic Dating Show.”

The show has quickly become a fan favorite, bringing in over 600 live viewers through the dating site and even more when it is uploaded to CatholicMatch’s YouTube channel the next day for nonmembers to watch.

Taking place two Saturdays a month, “The Catholic Dating Show” is an hourlong event that features one single woman and three single men. During the first half of the show, the woman asks her suitors questions to get to know them better. The three men also have their cameras off for this part so the woman cannot see them.

Continued below.

God’s Politics

D book by Jim Wallice but still seems relevant.



“The beating drum of the book: poverty is a moral issue. This is why the [religious right are "getting it wrong"]Asserting that America has strayed away from God's ideas of equality and rewards, Wallis points out that no matter the quality of their actions, the rich are getting richer and the laborer more destitute. Wallis effectively strips religion away from many positions held by the religious right.

“But at least the Right made the attempt and has reaped the benefits, regardless of whether they should have. The Left, on the other had, "doesn't get it" at all as shying away from "God talk" so as to differentiate themselves from the right divorces them from a past of social movement sparked by faith and morality. Wallis concludes, and I believe rightfully so, that how aggressively secular the Left is leaves those who are religious progressives without a home.”

A more contemporary religious progressive voice is Rev. William Barber II
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Release International prayers for Algeria and Iran.

13 December 2025 – Algeria​

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Pray that Christian children and youth in Algeria will have opportunities to remain in their country and to grow and develop in their faith without persecution or discrimination.

12 December 2025 – Algeria​

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Pray for freedom of conscience and religious belief for all Algerians, not only in law but also in their minds, hearts, homes and communities. May God’s people have courage to stand up for the truth in this challenging period.

11 December 2025 – Algeria​

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Please pray for God’s protection and care for Algerian Christians such as our partner, pastor ‘Yuba’, and his wife and children, who take great risks to stay in Algeria and continue ministering.

10 December 2025 – Algeria​

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Pray for wisdom, courage and grace for church leaders as they continue to struggle for legal recognition, freedom and rights for Christians and churches within Algeria. Pray for an end to the relentless hounding of the church by the authorities.

09 December 2025 – Algeria​

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Pray for the ongoing court cases involving pastors and other church leaders who have been prosecuted simply for their Christian ministry. May those who have been convicted see their sentences overturned on appeal at the Supreme Court.

08 December 2025 – Algeria​

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Please pray for the re-opening of the more than 45 Algerian Protestant churches that have been closed by the Government.

07 December 2025 – Iran​

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Pray for work translating the Bible into the many ethnic-minority languages of Iran. In a closed country with no physical churches and where even home groups can be at risk, a believer’s Bible – especially in their indigenous language – is vital.

Mother Seton’s surprising painting of Our Lady of Guadalupe

Was this oil painting the first image of Our Lady of Guadalupe in the U.S.? The question may never be answered for certain. Amid the speculation, there is one other piece of the puzzle that should not be missed, however: The arrival of this unique painting in Mother Seton’s chapel, far from Mexico or any knowledge of the events in Guadalupe, was itself something of a miraculous occurrence, a loving response to a woman who had once begged Mary to “adopt me as your child.”

Who was Josephus ?

When it says Jewish it means Judean living in Judah/Judea or of the religion of the Judeans. Also the word Judaism (Judeanism) appears zero times in his complete works. Josephus likely was not Christian so was synagogue of satan religion.

Flavius Josephus (c. AD 37 – c. 100) was a Jewish priest, general, historian, and later a Roman citizen whose writings are among the most important sources for Second Temple Judaism and the world of the New Testament.


Early life (c. AD 37–66)​

  • Born Yosef ben Mattityahu in Jerusalem to a priestly (Hasmonean-linked) family.
  • Educated in Jewish law and traditions; claims familiarity with Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes.
  • By his mid-20s he was recognized for learning and sent on an embassy to Rome (c. AD 64), gaining exposure to imperial power.

The Jewish War & turning point (AD 66–70)​

  • At the outbreak of the First Jewish–Roman War, Josephus was appointed commander in Galilee.
  • After the fall of Jotapata, he surrendered to Roman general Vespasian.
  • Josephus famously predicted Vespasian’s rise to emperor. When this came true (AD 69), Josephus was spared, freed, and adopted the Roman family name Flavius.

Life in Rome (after AD 70)​

  • Lived under Flavian patronage (Vespasian, Titus, Domitian).
  • Received a pension, Roman citizenship, and access to archives.
  • Devoted himself to writing history to explain Jewish affairs to Greco-Roman readers and to defend Judaism against slander.

Major works​

  1. The Jewish War(c. AD 75)
    • An eyewitness-style account of the revolt and the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple (AD 70).
  2. Antiquities of the Jews(c. AD 93/94)
    • A sweeping history from Creation to AD 66.
    • Contains the famous passages about John the Baptist, James the brother of Jesus, and the debated Testimonium Flavianum concerning Jesus.
  3. Against Apion
    • A defense of Judaism against Greek critics; argues for the antiquity and reasonableness of Jewish law and Scripture.
  4. Life (Vita)
    • An autobiographical defense of his conduct, especially in Galilee.

Beliefs & reputation​

  • Identified with Pharisaic interpretations, yet wrote in a way accessible to Greeks and Romans.
  • Controversial figure: viewed by some Jews as a traitor, by others as a survivor-historian whose works preserved invaluable information.
  • For Christians, Josephus is crucial as a non-Christian witness to first-century Judaism and figures mentioned in the New Testament.

Death & legacy​

  • Died in Rome around AD 100.
  • His writings shape modern understanding of:
    • Second Temple Judaism
    • The background of Jesus and early Christianity
    • The Jewish–Roman War and the fall of Jerusalem

If you’d like, I can walk through Josephus’s references to Jesus and James line by line, or compare his chronology with the Gospels and Acts, or assess how later Christian scribes handled his text.

All this books are free audiobook on youtube or e books online or physical books are sold online.
Here is a clear chronological timeline of the Judean–Roman Wars, consistently using “Judean” rather than “Jewish,” and keeping close to ancient historical framing (Josephus, Roman historians, later sources).


Background (before AD 66)

  • 63 BC – Pompey the Great captures Jerusalem; Judea becomes a Roman client state.
  • 37–4 BC – Reign of Herod the Great (Roman-backed king).
  • AD 6 – Judea becomes a Roman province under direct rule; census of Quirinius sparks unrest.
  • AD 40s–60s – Growing tension: taxation, Roman governors, priestly disputes, sectarian conflict, and messianic expectations.

First Judean–Roman War (AD 66–73)

(Also called the Great Revolt)

Outbreak

  • AD 66
    • Revolt begins in Jerusalem after abuses by the Roman procurator Gessius Florus.
    • Judeans defeat Roman forces at Beth Horon.
    • Roman legate Cestius Gallus retreats in defeat.

Roman counteroffensive

  • AD 67
    • Vespasian and his son Titus invade Judea.
    • Galilee falls (including Jotapata).
    • Josephus is captured.
  • AD 68
    • Romans consolidate control of Judea outside Jerusalem.
    • Roman civil war begins after Nero’s death.

Fall of Jerusalem

  • AD 69
    • Vespasian becomes emperor.
    • Titus takes command of the Judean campaign.
  • AD 70
    • Siege and destruction of Jerusalem.
    • Second Temple destroyed (month of Av).
    • Massive loss of life; captives taken to Rome.

Final resistance

  • AD 73
    • Masada falls to Roman forces.
    • End of the First Judean–Roman War.
Below is a chronological timeline of the Zealot movement, beginning in AD 6, using ancient categories and sources (Josephus foremost). I’ll distinguish Zealots proper from the closely related Sicarii, since Josephus sometimes separates them.




Origins (AD 6–30)


AD 6


  • Census of Quirinius when Judea becomes a Roman province.
  • Judas the Galilean and Zadok the Pharisee lead resistance.
  • Josephus calls this the “Fourth Philosophy” (besides Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes).
  • Core ideology formed:
    • God alone is ruler
    • No tribute to Rome
    • Death preferable to slavery
  • This is the birth of the Zealot ideology, though not yet a mass movement.

AD 6–30


  • Movement survives underground.
  • Periodic unrest and sporadic violence.
  • Leaders and followers are executed or dispersed.
  • Ideology continues to spread quietly, especially in Galilee and Judea.



Radicalization (AD 30–50)


AD 30s


  • Roman crucifixions increase.
  • Banditry (lēstai in Josephus) becomes more frequent — often ideological rather than criminal.
  • Zealot ideas blend with messianic expectations.

AD 40s


  • Sons and followers of Judas the Galilean continue agitation.
  • Roman procurators respond harshly.
  • Seeds of organized revolt are forming, but no unified command yet.



Rise of the Sicarii (AD 50–66)


Early AD 50s


  • Emergence of the Sicarii (“dagger-men”).
  • Assassinate collaborators in public places, especially Jerusalem festivals.
  • Josephus treats them as an extreme wing of the Zealot cause.

AD 52–60


  • Sicarii active under procurators Felix and Festus.
  • High priests, elites, and Roman sympathizers targeted.
  • Popular fear spreads in Jerusalem.



Open Revolt & Zealot Rule (AD 66–70)


AD 66


  • Outbreak of the First Judean–Roman War.
  • Zealots seize Jerusalem.
  • Roman garrison massacred.
  • Temple authorities overthrown.

AD 67


  • Zealot factions dominate Jerusalem.
  • Moderate Judean leaders executed.
  • Internal violence increases.
  • John of Gischala emerges as a major Zealot leader.

AD 68


  • Zealots and Sicarii intensify terror.
  • High priesthood corrupted and politicized.
  • Civil war inside Jerusalem between rival Zealot factions.

AD 69


  • Simon bar Giora enters Jerusalem with his own armed followers.
  • Three-way civil war inside the city:
    • John of Gischala
    • Simon bar Giora
    • Eleazar ben Simon
  • Temple precinct becomes a battlefield.

AD 70


  • Roman siege under Titus.
  • Zealot infighting continues during the siege.
  • Second Temple destroyed.
  • Zealot leadership annihilated or captured.
  • Simon bar Giora paraded and executed in Rome.



Final Resistance (AD 70–73)


AD 70–73


  • Remaining Sicarii retreat to Masada.
  • Conduct raids on nearby Judean settlements.
  • Roman siege under Flavius Silva.

AD 73


  • Fall of Masada.
  • Mass death of defenders (as reported by Josephus).
  • End of organized Zealot resistance.



Aftermath & Legacy


Post-AD 73


  • Zealot movement ceases as an organized force.
  • Roman repression eliminates ideological militancy in Judea.
  • Memory of the Zealots preserved largely through Josephus, often negatively.
  • Later rabbinic tradition views Zealot extremism as contributing to the Temple’s destruction.



Summary Timeline (Compressed)


  • AD 6 – Judas the Galilean; Zealot ideology founded
  • AD 6–50 – Underground resistance
  • AD 50s – Sicarii assassinations
  • AD 66 – Revolt begins; Zealots seize Jerusalem
  • AD 67–69 – Zealot rule and civil war
  • AD 70 – Jerusalem and Temple destroyed
  • AD 73 – Masada falls; movement ends


Judean Zealot Sects around AD 70

By the time of the siege of Jerusalem, the “Zealots” were not a single unified group, but multiple militant sects and warbands, often violently opposed to one another.


1. The Zealots Proper (Temple Zealots)

Identity

  • Core ideological heirs of Judas the Galilean (AD 6).
  • Saw themselves as guardians of God’s kingship.
  • Centered on Jerusalem and the Temple.
  • Claimed legitimacy through zeal for the Law (qanah).

Beliefs

  • God alone is ruler; no foreign lord may reign.
  • Armed resistance is a religious duty.
  • Death preferable to submission.
  • Temple purity more important than political compromise.

Base

  • Temple precincts (inner courts).
  • Jerusalem aristocracy purged.

Leader

Eleazar ben Simon

  • Son of Simon (possibly Simon the Zealot mentioned earlier by Josephus).
  • Controlled the inner Temple.
  • Zealously guarded sacrifices and access.
  • Eventually fought other Zealot factions inside the Temple itself.

Fate

  • Crushed during Roman siege.
  • Temple burned while they still occupied it.

2. John of Gischala’s Zealot Faction

Identity

  • Militarized Galilean Zealot group.
  • Less priestly, more political and opportunistic.
  • Used Zealot ideology but sought personal dominance.

Beliefs

  • Zeal for freedom, but flexible with violence.
  • Willing to manipulate Temple institutions.
  • Less concerned with ritual purity than power.

Base

  • Originally Galilee.
  • Later controlled much of Jerusalem, including outer Temple courts.

Leader

John of Gischala

  • Charismatic, ruthless, highly intelligent.
  • Former Galilean commander.
  • Rival of Josephus.
  • Entered Jerusalem under pretense of defending the city.
  • Controlled large armed forces and supplies.

Actions

  • Fought Eleazar ben Simon.
  • Burned rival food stores, worsening famine.
  • Eventually fought Simon bar Giora.

Fate

  • Captured alive by Romans.
  • Imprisoned for life.

3. Simon bar Giora’s Movement

Identity

  • A mass-based revolutionary warlord, not a Temple priest.
  • Represented rural and lower-class Judeans.
  • Closest to a popular messianic kingship model.

Beliefs

  • Judea must be freed entirely.
  • Strong anti-elite and anti-aristocracy stance.
  • More openly royalist/messianic in tone.

Base

  • Countryside of Judea.
  • Later controlled Upper City of Jerusalem.

Leader

Simon bar Giora

  • Towering physical presence (per Josephus).
  • Styled himself as king.
  • Issued orders like a sovereign ruler.
  • Wore royal garments during final defense.

Actions

  • Brought tens of thousands into Jerusalem.
  • Fought both John of Gischala and Eleazar ben Simon.
  • Controlled executions and food distribution.

Fate

  • Captured after Jerusalem fell.
  • Paraded in Titus’ triumph in Rome.
  • Executed publicly.

4. The Sicarii (Extreme Zealots)

Identity

  • Most radical Zealot sect.
  • Named after the sica (dagger).
  • Specialized in assassination and terror.

Beliefs

  • Total rejection of compromise.
  • Willing to kill Judeans viewed as collaborators.
  • Hostile even to other Zealots.

Base

  • Initially Jerusalem crowds.
  • Later Masada.

Leader

Eleazar ben Jair

  • Descendant of Judas the Galilean.
  • Ideological purist.
  • Rejected alliances with other Judean factions.

Actions

  • Public assassinations during festivals.
  • Kidnappings and forced allegiance.
  • After AD 70, raided Judean villages.

Fate

  • Last stand at Masada (AD 73).
  • Mass death of defenders ends Sicarii resistance.

5. Zealot-aligned Prophets & Messianic Figures

Identity

  • Not formal commanders.
  • Charismatic religious leaders.
  • Promised divine intervention.

Beliefs

  • God would intervene visibly.
  • Signs and wonders imminent.
  • Jerusalem would not fall.

Role

  • Encouraged resistance during siege.
  • Led crowds into fatal confrontations.
  • Undermined rational defense.

Josephus’ View

  • Sees them as false prophets, but admits their influence was enormous.

Internal Conflict (Critical Factor)

By AD 69–70, Jerusalem was divided:

FactionTerritory
Eleazar ben SimonInner Temple
John of GischalaOuter Temple & city
Simon bar GioraUpper City
  • Civil war during siege
  • Food stores destroyed
  • Thousands killed by fellow Judeans
  • Romans exploited divisions
Josephus explicitly states more Judeans died by Judean hands than Roman ones during this phase.

2 Esdras/4 Ezra genealogies vs Ezra

2 Esdras/4 Ezra genealogies compared to protestant Ezra
2 EsdrasEzra / ChroniclesNotes
EsdrasEzraSame name (Greek vs Hebrew form)
SaraiasSeraiahSame
AzaraiasAzariahSame
HelkiasHilkiahSame
SalemasShallumSame
SadocZadokSame
AhitobAhitubSame
AchiasExtra name in 2 Esdras
PhineesPhinehasSame
HeliExtra name
AmariasAmariahSame
AzieiAzariahSame
MarimothMeraiothSame
ArnaZerahiahName variation / compression
OziasUzziSame
BorithBukkiSame
AbisseiAbishuaSame
PhineesPhinehasSame
EleazarEleazarSame
AaronAaronSame


4. Key Observations (important)​

1. Same priestly line

Both genealogies trace Ezra/Esdras directly to Aaron through Eleazar, not Ithamar — the high-priestly line.

2. 2 Esdras is longer

2 Esdras includes additional names (e.g., Achias, Heli) that are absent from Ezra 7.

This fits your earlier assumption:

  • Biblical genealogies are selective, not exhaustive
  • Later writers may compress, earlier or alternative traditions may expand

3. No contradiction

There is no direct conflict:

  • Same core names
  • Same order
  • Same endpoint (Aaron)
  • Differences are additive, not contradictory

4. Matches Second Temple expectations

Expanded priestly genealogies are common in:

  • Chronicles
  • Jubilees
  • 2 Esdras
  • Qumran priestly lists

5. Bottom Line​

  • 2 Esdras preserves a fuller priestly genealogy
  • Ezra 7 gives a compressed, official version
  • Both trace Ezra/Esdras legitimately to Aaron through Eleazar
  • The differences strengthen, not weaken, the historical claim under an ancient worldview


    Protestant Ezra internally is written in the 7th year of Artaxerxes which is 457 BC. 2 Esdras internally is written 30 years after the destruction of Jerusalem 587 BC therefore 557 BC, and another section says during the reign of Artaxerxes but he does not say what year. Assuming the same time as protestant Ezra then that is 457 BC. If Ezra was 20 when he wrote the first section it means he lived to around 120 years, and wrote the last section as a very old man. The talmud which is jewish fables 1 titus 14 says Ezra lived to 120. It seems like that is one of the rare instances where the talmud preserves a historical truth.

LXX vs MT time in Egypt

The 430 vs 215 years in Egypt question comes down to how Exodus 12:40–41 is read and which textual tradition you follow, and it also ties directly into Paul’s statement in Galatians 3:17.


I’ll lay it out cleanly and chronologically.




1. The Two Positions​


Option A: 430 years in Egypt


View: Israel lived in Egypt for the full 430 years.


Text used:
Masoretic Text (MT)
– Exodus 12:40


“Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years.”

Implication:


  • Jacob enters Egypt → 430 years later → Exodus
  • This requires very compressed genealogies (e.g., Levi → Kohath → Amram → Moses covering 430 years)



Option B: 215 years in Egypt


View: The 430 years covers the entire period from Abraham to the Exodus, not Egypt alone.
Actual time in Egypt = 215 years.


Texts used:


  • Septuagint (LXX) – Exodus 12:40
  • Samaritan Pentateuch
  • Paul (Galatians 3:17)

LXX reads:


“The sojourning of the children of Israel, which they sojourned in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan, was four hundred and thirty years.”



2. Paul Settles the Timeline (Galatians 3:17)​


Paul says:


“The law, which came four hundred and thirty years after, does not annul the covenant previously confirmed by God.”

This refers to:


  • Covenant with Abraham → 430 years → Law at Sinai

That cannot fit 430 years only in Egypt, because:


  • Abraham lived long before Jacob entered Egypt
  • Isaac and Jacob are clearly inside the 430-year span Paul is counting

Therefore, Paul assumes 430 years total, not Egypt-only.




3. Chronological Breakdown (215-year Egypt model)​


Using Genesis data:


EventYears
Abraham enters Canaan (age 75)Year 0
Isaac born (Gen 21:5)+25
Jacob born (Isaac age 60)+60
Jacob enters Egypt (age 130)+130
Total before Egypt215 years
Time in Egypt215 years
Total to Exodus430 years

This matches:


  • Paul
  • LXX
  • Samaritan Pentateuch
  • Normal human lifespans
  • Uncompressed genealogies



4. Genealogical Evidence​


Levi → Moses line:​


  • Levi
  • Kohath
  • Amram
  • Moses

Even with maximum lifespans, these cannot span 430 years naturally.
They fit perfectly into ~215 years.




5. Why the Masoretic Text Reads Differently​


The MT:


  • Omits “and in the land of Canaan
  • Likely reflects later rabbinic tradition
  • Creates tension with:
    • Paul
    • Genesis chronology
    • Genealogies

Notably:


  • All pre-Christian witnesses (LXX, Samaritan) preserve the longer reading.



6. Conclusion​


Biblically and chronologically:


  • 430 years = from Abraham’s covenant to the Exodus
  • 215 years = actual time Israel lived in Egypt

This is:


  • The view assumed by Paul
  • The view preserved in the LXX
  • The only view that harmonizes Genesis, Exodus, and Galatians

1. Anchor Date: The Exodus​


Using the biblical internal chronology (1 Kings 6:1):


Exodus → 480 years → 4th year of Solomon

Solomon’s 4th year is widely dated to 966 BC.


So:


  • Exodus = 1446 BC

(This is the standard early-Exodus date used in conservative biblical chronology.)




2. Abraham to the Exodus (430 years total)​


Paul (Gal 3:17) places 430 years from the Abrahamic covenant to the Law at Sinai.


So:


  • Abraham enters Canaan (Gen 12) = 1876 BC
  • Exodus = 1446 BC

1876 − 1446 = 430 years



Anchor​


  • Exodus: 1446 BC

Abraham​


  • Abraham enters Canaan (age 75): 1446 + 430 = 1876 BC
  • Abraham born (75 years earlier): 1876 + 75 = 1951 BC

Isaac​


  • Isaac born (Abraham age 100): 1876 + 25 = 1851 BC

Jacob​


  • Jacob born (Isaac age 60): 1851 + 60 = 1791 BC

Jacob enters Egypt​


  • Jacob enters Egypt (age 130): 1791 + 130 = 1661 BC

Time in Egypt​


  • Israel enters Egypt: 1661 BC
  • Exodus: 1446 BC
  • Time in Egypt: 1661 − 1446 = 215 years

So the corrected statement is:


215 years in Egypt = 1661 BC to 1446 BC,

Strange dream I had

I had a dream or vision where I saw a demon or fallen angel that was attacking me get bound and then chained in this bottomless pit place. In this bottomless pit place there was a hole without end and fire and the monster was bound with great chains. It went from looking like a familiar person when it was attacking and oppressing me to a hidious reptilian creature when it was bound. I had been praying to the Lord to deliver me from oppression in my waking life and then had this dream the following night. The monster was so afraid looking and it was terrified when it was being bound. I never saw who was defeating the monster I only saw snapshots and the after affects but it was as real as my waking life. I don't know why I always have had these vivid dreams but this is the first time I have ever prayed the day before I went to sleep and this happened that I can remember. Usually they are completely random. I don't like talking about this kind of thing but this was very unusual and I wonder if the Lord was revealing how he answers our prayers and defeats the enemy regarding spiritual warfare?
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We've Come to Worship Him

Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, saying, “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.” When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. Gathering together all the chief priests and scribes of the people, he inquired of them where the Messiah was to be born. They said to him, “In Bethlehem of Judea; for this is what has been written by the prophet:
‘And you, Bethlehem, land of Judah,
Are by no means least among the leaders of Judah;
For out of you shall come forth a Ruler
Who will shepherd My people Israel.’”
Then Herod secretly called the magi and determined from them the exact time the star appeared. And he sent them to Bethlehem and said, “Go and search carefully for the Child; and when you have found Him, report to me, so that I too may come and worship Him.” (Matthew 2:1-8 NASB1995)

We live in a day and age today when many profess faith in Jesus Christ with their lips, but their hearts are far from him, and when many who profess Jesus as Lord of their lives are “wolves in sheep’s clothing” out to destroy the sheep of our Lord’s pasture. Many who stand before the congregations of the people are charlatans (impostors, pretenders, con artists, and swindlers) whose goal is not to lead people to genuine faith in Jesus Christ, but to lead them away from Christ while pretending to lead them to salvation from sin.

They, like Herod, are not really interested in getting to know Jesus Christ so that they can worship him, but so that they can trick and deceive the people into believing that they can have salvation from sin and eternal life with God in heaven without them having to die to sin and to walk in obedience to our Lord’s New Covenant commands. And they are very good at smooth talking and charming the people and saying what sounds good to itching ears. And so many people are, thus, following their lies all the way straight to hell.

For they lead them on an empty path to nowhere which is not connected to the vine, Jesus Christ. It is not connected to the power source, and so those who travel this path end up returning to the same habitual sinful patterns as they had before they professed faith in Jesus Christ. So they just keep recycling the same behaviors over again because the path they are on is the broad road which leads to destruction, and not the narrow path which leads to eternal life. For the narrow way requires death to sin and obeying God.

The magi, nonetheless, were sincere in their search for Jesus Christ, and in their desire to worship him, in truth. So they sought after him in full sincerity of heart and mind, eager to find him that they might worship him. And they did find him in a house with his mother Mary, and it is presumed that he was about two years old by this time. And they brought him gifts. But, having been warned by God in a dream not to return to Herod, the magi left for their own country by another way which led them home (vv 9-12).

And God is presently warning many people not to return to the “Herods” of this world who, in truth, are out to destroy Jesus Christ and his plan of salvation (the gospel) but while pretending to want to worship Christ. So he is sending out warnings through the teachings of the Scriptures to let the people know that many of them are being lied to and deceived into believing that their sins no longer matter to God and so they can keep on in their habitual sins while still claiming heaven as their eternal destiny.

But Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

So, know the truth of the gospel, and don’t return to the “Herods,” i.e. to the charlatans of this world who are out to destroy Jesus Christ and his gospel message. They may appear sincere in their desire to worship Christ, but looks can be deceiving. Seek Jesus out for yourselves, and let his Word teach you the truth of the Scriptures. But read the Scriptures in their correct biblical context. And don’t rely on other humans to tell you the truth, for liars are all over the place. And seek the Lord in truth, and he’ll be found.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

Mary, Did You Know?

Songwriters: Greene Lee Rufus / Lowry Mark Alan

Mary, did you know that your baby boy
Would one day walk on water?
Mary, did you know that your baby boy
Would save our sons and daughters?
Did you know that your baby boy
Has come to make you new?
This child that you delivered, will soon deliver you

Mary, did you know that your baby boy
Is Lord of all creation?
Mary, did you know that your baby boy
Would one day rule the nations?
Did you know that your baby boy
Is heaven's perfect Lamb?
That sleeping child you're
Holding is the great, I Am

Mary, did you know?

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We’ve Come to Worship Him
An Original Work / December 13, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

A big advantage of fire

Put some fire in that life of yours for some amazing outcomes!

*A man can be short, dumpy, and getting bald, but if he has fire, women will like him. -Mae West

E = mc2... Or divided... Mass (m) = Fire (E/c2)...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Mentally, A mathematical formula, but this has chemical and spiritual properties as well.
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

Wake Up Dead Man

I just finished watching "Wake Up Dead Man", the third movie in the Knives Out series. It's a complicated murder mystery, which I won't spoil by discussing any plot details here. But what caught my attention most about the movie is that, in the character of Father Jud (a Catholic priest), we see one of the most accurate portrayals of the Christian faith at its best that I've ever seen on screen.

Most often, movies don't even address religion. If they do, it's often generically bland; or, worse, the religious dialogue is clumsy, and the religious characters are flat caricatures. Only rarely have I seen Christian characters portrayed with a faith that resembles my own and dialogue that sounds like Christians I know in real life. This is one of those rare movies. I recommend it, for that reason.

Also, it's a good murder mystery. :)

Dream of Jesus Counseling and Teaching

I dreamed I was in a large church building. I didn't know the people there well, and was new. It felt as if I was accepted as part of this group of believers, and they expected me to to participate through service.

I was going around different parts of the building, helping out in various ways and hoping they would feel I was useful and productive. No one really talked with me directly, and it felt like even though I was there taking part, I wasn't really one of them and they didn't view me as someone who belonged, just someone to receive service from.

It was announced that Jesus was there and would be staying for a while. He wouldn't be preaching or performing miracles. He was only going to be counseling and teaching people privately, one on one. He had space He was using in an office or classroom that looked like it had been turned into a small, cozy library. The lighting was dim with a warm glow, sufficient for seeing but not overstimulating (which is something I really need in my real life because light causes overstimulation for me which eventually leads to stress headaches). There wasn't much furniture in there, and it was low to the ground, but it was comfortable.

Everyone had to sign up for a time for teaching or counseling and could only have small sessions with Him. As I was working around the building, I noticed a man came out of the room, and left the door open. I could see Jesus in there, and He was just calmly and peacefully waiting for someone else to come in. He seemed to be meditating.

I went in the room because I needed to put something away in there. I spoke to him briefly to be polite and hoped he wouldn't be bothered by me entering. He didn't seem disturbed at all and it seemed like He had a welcoming attitude. I didn't want to leave the room. I wanted to stay in there and wanted Him to talk to me. I asked if we could talk a little even though I didn't have a session scheduled. He said yes. I felt moved that He was willing to lay aside his mediation and give me time. He picked up a book, and He meant to teach from it but I wasn't sure if the teaching was for me or others.

I sat and waited for him to speak. He didn't. I realized He wanted me to ask Him questions or talk with Him about things I struggle with. I didn't want to. I began to feel numb and my mind was going blank about details of my life.

I didn't want to explain the difficult things or get deep into the emotional topics. It felt like too much, and I'm tired of talking about it and explaining things (both in my dream and in real life). I just kept hoping He would say something. I worried I was wasting His time and that others would think that. I was also worried they would disapprove of me spending time with Jesus and working through issues instead of serving. He only stayed quiet and waited. He had a patient and kind demeanor. He never opened the book He was holding or mentioned it.

After a while, I felt like it was pointless to continue sitting there with no conversation. I got up and walked out. I walked away thinking and hoping that He would be willing to listen when I felt ready, maybe a little at a time. I felt lonely when I left and didn't want to be out of His presence. I worried that I wouldn't be able to go in and talk with Him again. He was still sitting and He was watching me though the door. I walked away because I was supposed to be busy doing things.
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Supreme Court confronts gun rights pileup


An unusually large pileup of Second Amendment challenges has landed at the Supreme Court, which will consider taking up the cases behind closed doors Friday.

It would add to what is already a major term for gun rights. The justices previously agreed to hear two cases early next year that involve whether unlawful drug users can carry firearms and Hawaii’s gun permitting regime.





I have mixed feeling about these. I'll explain why.

Preface: Scotus can only evaluate what's presented to them and elevated to their court, not perfect world scenarios to make new legal stipulations.

Hawaii and similar states having a "may issue" permitting system.

The two sides of that coin, a person pays the application fees, spends money to dot all of the I's and cross all the T's, and then an issuing agency says "Nah, sorry, we're not going to give you a carry permit".

The flip side, an issuing agency has guys like this show up:
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"Hi, I passed the background check did the paperwork, the gremlins who live in my closet said I should carry a gun, rabbit skins feel nice don't they...anyway...can I have my permit please?"

...perhaps some discretion is a good thing in some instances.


On the "felon" stuff...I've long maintained that people with non-violent felonies (like cooking the books) are less of a public threat than a person with violent misdemeanors on their record, and shouldn't be denied the right of self defense. The problem is, SCOTUS has a narrow scope to work with to establish precedent and isn't involving that sort of nuance to make the distinction between violent and non-violent felonies, and I certainly don't want former armed robbers being legally licensed to carry.

As far as the drug users thing, that's also too broad. Despite marijuana being closer to alcohol on the "risk spectrum", its lumped in with PCP and heroin (federally), so SCOTUS striking down laws on behalf of some casual pot users could have the negative effect of allowing some hardcore drug users to get their hands on guns.
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A Bit of Truth In Each Carol

Grace and resurrection for those who are humble enough to receive Him, trusting in Him to remodel us, the oppressed who understand love and peace. In flesh He gives us a law to remedy the fact this world is not built upon love or peace and promises the wrong shall fail and the right prevail. Bless as you would be blessed and forgive if you want God's forgiveness. God's Will be done, not the will and doctrines of man.


"born to give us second birth" ... Hark! the Herald Angels Sing



"With the dawn of redeeming grace" ... Silent Night



"So God imparts to human hearts

the blessings of His heav'n.

No ear may hear His coming,

but in this world of sin,

where meek souls will receive Him still" ... Little Town of Bethlehem



"and fit us for heaven, to live with Thee there.: ... Away In a Manger



"to free all those who trust in Him

from Satan's pow'r and might" ... God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen



"He rules the world with truth and grace" ... Joy to the World



"And ye, beneath life's crushing load,

whose forms are bending low,

who toil along the climbing way

with painful steps and slow
,

look now! for glad and golden hours

come swiftly on the wing.

O rest beside the weary road,

and hear the angels sing!" ... It Came Upon a Midnight Clear



"Truly He taught us to love one another;

His law is love and His gospel is peace.

Chains shall He break, for the slave is our brother,

and in His name all oppression shall cease." ... O Holy Night



"Word of the Father, now in flesh appearing!" ... O Come, All Ye Faithful



"Who to Thy tribes, on Sinai's height,

In ancient times didst give the law

In cloud and majesty and awe." ... O Come, O Come, Emmanuel




" And in despair I bowed my head:

"There is no peace on earth," I said,

"For hate is strong, and mocks the song

Of peace on earth, good will to men.
"


"Then pealed the bells more loud and deep:

"God is not dead, nor doth He sleep;

The wrong shall fail, the right prevail,

With peace on earth, good will to men." ... Christmas Bells



"Therefore, Christian men, be sure, while God’s gifts possessing,

You who now will bless the poor shall yourselves find blessing." ... Good King Wenceslas



"Sages, leave your contemplations,

brighter visions beam afar" ... Angels From the Realms of Glory

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# A. AND Heb 9:18 is another KILLER verse

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#40 in Christian persecution, Egypt.

In Egypt, Christians often face discrimination in their communities. Christian women are harassed on the streets, especially in rural areas, and Christian children are bullied at school. Sometimes Muslim mobs force Christians to leave their homes after accusations of blasphemy. These incidents mostly happen in Upper Egypt, where radical Islamist groups are active. The Salafi al-Nour party, despite being a religious party, operates legally and exerts strong influence in poor, rural areas.

Egyptian President el-Sisi speaks positively about Christians and attempts to promote unity, but local authorities often fail to protect Christians from attacks. Building new churches is difficult in certain areas of Egypt, and Christians face hostility and violence from their communities.

from Islam can also face severe pressure from their families to return to the religion. Security services detain and intimidate converts, making it difficult to live openly as Christians.

Who is most vulnerable to persecution?

In Upper Egypt, in the southern part of the country, society is more conservative and radical. Most attacks on Christians happen there, especially in the Minya Governorate. Christians in poor rural areas in the north, such as the Nile Delta, also face similar oppression from radical Muslims. But throughout the Muslim-majority country, converts from Islam face heavy pressure for their decision to follow Jesus.

Meet 'Julie'
Teachers, and classmates used to mockingly tell me that Christians are crazy, claiming that we worship three gods. A Muslim classmate once told me that she will slaughter me because I am Christian.
JULIE, A CHRISTIAN CHILD

What has changed this year?

Egypt fell by two positions on the World Watch List this year – but the persecution score is exactly the same, meaning things have not changed for followers of Jesus in this North African nation. This year, Christians in Egypt have been mostly affected by the deteriorating economy. This increased poverty and exacerbated already existing power dynamics between Muslims and Christians. Many Christians are treated as second-class citizens, relegated to performing menial jobs with poor safety conditions and limited pay. In particular, converts from Islam continue to face violent opposition, while in several incidents, Coptic believers have been attacked, unjustly detained and, in one case, killed.

What does Open Doors do to help Christians in Egypt?

Open Doors works through local partners in Egypt to support the church throughout the country with literacy training, education, advocacy, medical outreach, and youth, family and women’s ministries.

How can you pray for Egypt?
  • In Egypt, it can be dangerous for someone to leave Islam to follow Jesus. Pray for these brave believers.
  • Pray for Christians who experience discrimination and abuse because of their faith. Ask God to sustain them.
  • Pray for Christians who are attacked or have loved ones who have suffered attacks. Pray that God will heal their wounds and restore their hope.

What should we preach in these last days?

My father was a Adventist minister, so I grew up listening to innumerable sermons and Daniel and Revelation prophecy series, and my mother did the various church and health messages, think '5 day plan to stop smoking', and I knew what was coming for each night. But, come to the present as we are getting to the final days, and I sometimes seem to struggle in what sermon to bring before the brethren, as I volunteer for the sermon as a elder.

I thought I was the only one, that some weeks I had no idea what sermon for this time to preach about, till almost the day of the sermon. But I have become aware that others also struggle to find what they should preach especially after hitting all the major points and beliefs, especially for the last days and prophecy. It might be that some are between ideas for what the brethren need or just struggling for ideas.

If we who preach as lay preachers were all honest, we’ve come across this, or come to the point of asking, ”What do the people need?”

So how do you find a message, especially for these last days, from God’s Word that your church needs and you are excited about?

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Wes Huff defending Kirk Cameron on the topic of Hell, even though Wes and Kirk differ on ECT

from: https://x.com/WesleyLHuff/status/1998190919539892630

Quoting Wes Huff:

"I’m seeing a lot of people attempting to critique it. I hold to ECT, but I do understand the topic of conditional immortality and I have yet to see anyone actually give a rebuttal that shows me they’ve interacted with the arguments and biblical reasoning from the other side. To condemn conditionalism/annihilationism as heresy is to say that John Stott, Edward Fudge, F. F. Bruce, potentially even Athanasius of Alexandria, are all heretics. This is, with all due respect, ridiculous. While the position might be unorthodox it is not heresy. If you actually want to interact with someone who knows the topic reach out to my friends
@datechris and/or @DanPaterson7
. Both are solid, fair minded, well educated and articulate..."

Texts like Ezek 28:14-19 and Matt 10:28 come up in those discussions as we might expect.

But I think Wes Huff's list of Bible scholars is interesting
John Stott,
Edward Fudge,
F. F. Bruce,
potentially even Athanasius of Alexandria

Dale Moody,
Clark Pinnock

could be added to that list

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I often differ with mr "Wretched" on at least something but in this video I think he comes close to middle of the road.


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‘Christ Follower’ Michigan Head Coach Sherrone Moore Fired for ‘Inappropriate Relationship’ With Staffer, Arraigned on 3 Charges

In a stunning fall from grace this week, University of Michigan head football Coach Sherrone Moore was fired, arrested, and charged with three criminal counts, including one felony.

Moore, the storied program’s first Black head football coach, was fired with cause on Wednesday (Dec. 10) for what the university described as “engaging in an inappropriate relationship with a staff member.”

Later that day, police arrested Moore after responding to a report of an assault by a knife-wielding individual who might have been suicidal. In police-dispatch audio, the victim can be reportedly be heard saying the suspect attacked her and had been “stalking her for months.” Moore’s wife, Kelli, can reportedly be heard saying her husband was “suicidal…for losing his job today.”

Continued below.

Concerns About the Foundations of the Gentile Christian Movement in Acts 15

12/12/25

Concerns About the Foundations of the Gentile Christian Movement in Acts 15

Premise #1:


True Jews will hear and obey the words of Yeshua. See Mt 12:50: “For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.” How can you get any closer than that? The Apostle John is also an excellent example of a believing Jew. His epistles closely parallel the words of our Savior in every aspect. 1 John 1:3 is a great example: “That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you…” The overall context and focus of John’s epistles are about hearing and obeying the Law of Love that Yeshua has given us.



Premise #2:

The foundation of the Gospel to the Gentiles in Acts 15 is NOT on solid ground. For proper understanding, see Mt. 7:24: “Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock.” Yeshua is not quoted at all in Acts 15. Neither by Peter, James, Paul, Barnabas, Judas (Barsabas) or Silas. The stated focus is on the Holy Ghost regarding the legitimacy and authority for the proposed decision from the Jerusalem Council that was to be sent to the Gentile church in Antioch. (See Acts 15:28).



True Mission of the Holy Ghost:

The problem here is this contradicts the direction, per Yeshua, regarding the mission of the Holy Ghost, as stated in John 14:26: “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I have said unto you.” Yeshua would never have supported the proposed letter to the Church at Antioch, especially what was stated in Acts 15:24. The originators of this statement, i.e., “…certain (men) which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying ye must be circumcised and keep the law; to whom we gave no such commandment”, combined two different subjects which Yeshua clearly differentiated in John 7:22, saying that circumcision was “of the fathers”, and not directly from Moses. The subject of circumcision was minimized by Yeshua and John 7:22-23 was his only direct mention of it, and the intent of his comments were to resolve accusations towards him about not keeping the Sabbath. By his example, the Jerusalem council should have avoided the subject, instead it became a huge point of discussion then and later in Paul’s writings. Regarding keeping the Torah, Yeshua’s stand is extremely clear on the eternal validity of the Torah, per his words in Matthew 5:17-18.



Background—Outpouring of the Holy Ghost to the House of Cornelius:

It would also be appropriate to mention the events in Acts 10, and especially regarding the outpouring of the Holy Ghost. As we know, Peter was sent to the house of Cornelius with God working in two directions here to bring this important message to the Gentiles to preach to them the good news about Yeshua the Messiah. In verse 44, the outpouring of the Holy Ghost was indisputable, and clearly from the heart of Yeshua to this Gentile household. We need to keep in mind however, regarding the original prophecy about speaking in tongues, per Isaiah 28:11: “For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people…” points to Yeshua as the sure foundation and precious cornerstone in verse 16. But these verses are accompanied by several adjacent verses, warning about a lack of correct hearing or a lack of hearing altogether. Verse 12 says: …”This is the rest, wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing; yet they would not hear.” The bottom line is that the outpouring of the Holy Ghost in the book of Acts is framed on every side per Isaiah 28 with warnings about correct hearing of the word of God, i.e., words of Yeshua. (See Hebrews 1:1-2 if any questions). Per Acts 10, Yeshua’s message clearly applies to everyone who would hear his words, Jew or Gentile, but fully understanding that not all persons would hear and receive his words. His heart of compassion was clearly extended to the Gentiles via Peter’s visit to the house of Cornelius.



Background—Questions About the Authority / Structure of the Jerusalem Council:

First, Yeshua was not supportive at all of church organizational structures or any structures that would replace his direct authority or that of his heavenly Father, and for good reasons. If you read Matthew 23:8-10, he says: “But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and ye are all brethren.” James seems to end up with the leadership role by the conclusion of Acts 15, and he was probably trying his best under the circumstances, but this is a great example again of the very weak foundation that was created at the origins of the Gentile Church in several areas. Just for thinking purposes, what if the at the beginning of the Jerusalem council in Acts 15:2, when the questions arose from the men that came down from Judea that needed to be answered, the Apostles and Elders would have responded as follows: “These are important questions, and we need to understand exactly how Yeshua would have responded.” “Give us a few days, and we will go into fasting and prayer, plus ask the Holy Ghost to help us remember accurately the words He had spoken while he was yet with us.” Do we realize the wonderful blessings, and wise decisions that would have followed?



Yeshua’s statements on fulfilling the Law:

Yeshua’s answer to the Gentile believers would most likely have stated “how” to fulfill the Law as follows, (for example): When asked this question, i.e., which is the greatest commandment in the Law by a lawyer in Mt. 22:37-40, Yeshua’s response was: “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind….this is the first and great commandment.” “The second is like unto it: Thou shalt love they neighbor as thyself…on these two commandments hang (suspend) all the law and prophets.” The likely response from the Apostle John, especially after the “period of darkness” mentioned in 1 John 2:8-10, would also have been to state the Law of Love that Yeshua had given unto us. Yeshua clearly states in Matthew 5:17-18 that he did not come to destroy the law or the prophets, but to fulfill the law. When studied at a deeper level, Yeshua later clearly makes the point that if we hear and obey his words, we can have that love in our hearts that he mentions in John 14, 15 & 16 and we can fulfill the Torah.



Paul’s Statements on fulfilling the Law:

In Paul’s gospel to the Gentiles, fulfillment of the Law was not prioritized or emphasized at all, as we know. Paul only quotes Yeshua once in all of his epistles. (See 1 Cor 11:24-25). Agreeably, Paul mentions that love is the fulfillment of the law in Galatians 5:14 and Romans 13:8-10. These statements are absolutely correct, and they coincide with Yeshua’s words even if Paul never quoted Yeshua as the source. To caution, however, Paul’s contempt and disregard for God’s moral law is well documented in his writings. For example, in Romans 7:3-4, he uses a figurative example of the Law of Adultery, equating Christ to “the deceased husband”, to conclude that: “…ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ.” This directly conflicts with the words of Yeshua in Matthew 5:27-28 where in no case does he indicate that the Law of Adultery or any of God’s moral law will ever become null and void.



The Apostle John Links True Love and True Holiness:

This becomes an important consideration when studying John’s epistles where he links true love and true holiness together. The two are intertwined per his statements, and you cannot have one without the other. Remember that John states in 1 John 3:4 that sin is a transgression of the Law, and this applies to everyone in exactly the same way. Remember also that Yeshua warns in Mt. 5:19 that: “Whosoever therefore shall break one of the least of these commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven…” John’s epistles proclaim a high standard of holiness and sanctification and indicates in 1 John 3:6 that we can live a life above sin if we stay close to Yeshua and diligently heed his words.



Peter Missteps in Acts 15
:

Peter also misses the mark and direction that Yeshua had previously provided when he states in Acts 15:10-11: “Why tempt ye God, and put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor us were able to bear?? He states further in verse 11 that: “We believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved.” This conflicts with the words of Yeshua in at least four counts: 1) In Matthew 11:28-30 he said that his yoke was easy, and burden was light. 2) Yeshua repeats clearly in multiple passages that true believers in Him would hear and obey his words. 3) The Apostle John, in his epistles, discusses the wonderful joy and blessings that accompany true faith and obedience to the words of Yeshua. (Not a hardship). 4) Yeshua never distances himself from the Old Testament scriptures. His response to the lawyer regarding the greatest commandment of the Law in Matthew 22:36-40, was a quote from Leviticus 19:18, and Deuteronomy 6:5. See also Psalms 119 in its entirety.



Beginning of Paul’s Gospel:

Unfortunately, Paul takes Peter’s words here to support his current and proposed theology and runs full speed ahead with his gospel of grace (without works or any reference to obedience), and with almost complete contempt for the Law and lack of reference to the words of Yeshua. Following Acts 15, we see the rise of Paul and an almost complete minimization of Peter.



Paul’s Position of Idolatry:

There is also a serious concern to consider now and in the immediate future due to Paul’s weak stand on idolatry. In 1Cor 8:4-8 Paul clearly states that eating meat offered to idols was only a matter of conscience and would become a problem only if it offended a weaker brother’s conscience. This is in direct conflict to the first commandment in the Law, and Yeshua had to step in twice in Revelation 2:14 and 2:20 to address this issue. This is also in direct conflict with the 1st of the four precepts that were correctly stated by James in Acts 15:29: “That ye abstain from meats offered to idols.”



Immediate Consequences of the Acts 15 Decisions:

We can observe the results of the lack of a solid foundation and adherence to the words of Yeshua in Acts 15 at that important moment in history, by looking at verses 39 & 40 which describes the falling out between Paul and Barnabas over John Mark: “Paul thought it not good to take him with them, who departed from them at Pamphylia, and the contention was so sharp between them that they departed asunder one from the other, and so Barnabas took Mark, and sailed for Cyprus.” “And Paul chose Silas, and departed, being recommended by the brethren unto the grace of God.” Would this have happened if close adherence and respect was kept towards the words of Yeshua?




Acts 15—Concluding Verses (39-40):


“Being recommended by the brethren unto the grace of God”, regretfully, is an outrageous statement, implying back patting by the “brethren” and basically condoning a very serious sin, per Yeshua. If you read Mt. 5:23-25, Yeshua placed a high priority on getting things straightened up between brethren and resolved as quickly as possible. In this case the serious sin was not necessarily the falling out between Paul and Barnabas, but the fact that amends were not made quickly, and they went separate ways. We have no record that this quarrel and contention was immediately resolved.


The word Grace:


The word “grace” is unfortunately used here foundationally also to imply that this disagreement between Paul and Barnabas now and in the future falls into a dispensational category of “unmerited favor” that sort of overlooks sins and shortcomings as “all forgiven” now that we are under this “dispensation of grace.” Yeshua is clear on this also and indicates in Mt. 6:15 that our forgiveness before God is conditional on our forgiveness to others. The word “grace” was never spoken or quoted by Yeshua, other than indirectly by way of revelation to Paul in 2 Cor 12:9, even though it became a cornerstone of Paul’s teachings and subsequent Gospel to the Gentiles.



Finally, where do we go from here?

  • Pay extremely close attention to the words of Yeshua, now and going forward. They are true and precious and worth more than all the riches in this world. Read Matthew 17:5 and Hebrews 1:1-2 as key scriptures in this regard.
  • Minimize Bible commentators, other than we need to pay attention to accurate language translations from the original Greek and Hebrew, etc.
  • Pay diligent attention to John’s epistles, as they have an obvious message of the hour for Jewish believers.
  • Pay diligent attention also to Yeshua’s message to the church of Philadelphia, per Rev 3:7-13.
  • Most important, remember that if we want to fulfill the Law it must start with a sincere love for our Savior, love for others, and love for the precious words and promises that he has given to us.
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Erika Kirk cites Nehemiah to push back against conspiracy theories: 'I am busy building'

Erika Kirk, the widow of the late Charlie Kirk, cited the prophet Nehemiah on Wednesday to push back against conspiracy theories that have swirled about her late husband's assassination three months ago.

Asked by Fox News' "Outnumbered" host Harris Faulkner to respond to those who have questioned the story behind Kirk's murder or where he is buried, Erika cited the story of the Old Testament prophet, who fielded deception and slander from those attempting to discourage him from rebuilding the wall of Jerusalem.

Nehemiah repeatedly rebuffed his detractors as he continued the work to which the Lord called him, which Erika said inspired her to press forward with the work of continuing her husband's legacy while ignoring naysaying voices.

"It reminds me so much of Chapter 6 in the book of Nehemiah," she said. "He is building a wall, and the townspeople are at the base of that hill, saying 'Nehemiah' — calling him all these names, saying all these things — 'Come on down.'"

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Trump sued by preservationists seeking reviews and congressional approval for ballroom project


President Donald Trump was sued on Friday by preservationists asking a federal court to halt his White House ballroom project until it goes through multiple independent reviews and wins approval from Congress.
The National Trust for Historic Preservation, a privately funded group, is asking the U.S. District Court to block Trump’s White House ballroom project, which already has involved razing the East Wing, until it goes through comprehensive design reviews, environmental assessments, public comments and congressional debate and ratification.
Trump’s project has prompted criticism in the historic preservation and architectural communities, and among his political adversaries, but the lawsuit is the most tangible effort thus far to alter or stop the president’s plans for an addition that itself would be nearly twice the size of the White House before the East Wing’s demolition.
He's really going about this all wrong. Like I said elsewhere I'm not even opposed to the ballroom on principle. He's just doing it all wrong. In just about every way.

DeSantis admin diverted $36.2 million in child welfare and medical funds for consultants, ads to defeat voter ballot initiatives

Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration diverted more than $35 million in taxpayer funds — an amount far greater than previously known — as part of a brazen agenda last year to defeat two ballot amendments he staunchly opposed, a Miami Herald/Tampa Bay Times investigation has found. Much of the state money was intended to assist needy Floridians, including children. Instead, it paid for political consultants, lawyers and thousands of advertisements that helped DeSantis and his supporters win at the ballot box.

The findings shed new light on the DeSantis administration’s marshaling of state resources to finance his fight against political causes supported by a majority of Florida voters. Amendment 3 would have legalized recreational marijuana. Amendment 4 would have overturned the six-week abortion ban pushed by DeSantis. Both fell just short of the 60% needed to pass. The most visible cog in his campaign — the use of the state’s Hope Florida charity — is the subject of a grand jury investigation. In that case, nearly $10 million from a Medicaid settlement was steered to a political committee controlled by the governor’s chief of staff.

The diversion of state money came at a time when the term-limited governor’s deep pool of donors had begun to dry up after a failed presidential campaign. Without the cash needed to wage the all-out blitz to defeat the amendments, he turned to taxpayer money to air what he called “public service announcements” to educate Floridians.

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What is Hope Florida? Why Casey DeSantis-connected charity is reportedly under investigation

The battle over Hope Florida, a project spearheaded by Florida first lady Casey DeSantis, kicked into a new gear with news that a criminal investigation may have been opened into a $10 million "donation" from a Medicaid settlement that was then sent to a political committee to fight a constitutional amendment that her husband, Gov. Ron DeSantis, didn't like.

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