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Midrash "Pinchas" (overview) Numbers 25:1-29:40

PARASHA: “Pinchas” (mouth of the serpent) NUMBERS 25:1-29:40.

Yes, this is another "long-winded" message. Take your time. No one reads a book in one sitting. read a little, then come back to it later and finish. There is a lot of information here that I would like to look at.

The name "Pinchas" can be derived from the letter (Peh) which means "mouth" and "Nachash" (serpent).

This Bible study portion starts with somewhat of a surprise, a promotion in rank for an execution committed, and rather suddenly. Pinchas, the grandson of Aaron was a Levite. During the time of the “weakness and falling away of the men of Israel, He took matters into his own hands and slew Zimri and Cozbi, who were committing fornication in the sight of all Israel, yet Adonai rewarded him for this and gave him an “everlasting covenant of peace (Brit Shalom) and an everlasting priesthood” because he was “Zealous” for his God because he made an “atonement” for Israel”.

to understand this, we must go back to Parashah Balak. King Balak wanted Balaam to curse Israel, yet Adonai did not do this, as Adonai prohibited this. Adonai already blessed Israel, and who Adonai has blessed, no man can curse. However, as many past rabbis and sages believe, what happened afterward was indeed a tragedy. Even though the Torah does not record this, because of the events that followed, we can conclude that this is what might have happened afterward.

Perhaps, Balaam went to Balak and told him that even though he could not curse Israel, the children of Israel could bring a curse among themselves by disobeying God’s commandments and going after other gods. The Torah says that b’nei Israel went after the Moabite prostitutes and went to worship their god “Baal-Peor” thus bringing down the wrath of YHVH. The result was a plague that killed 24,000 Israelites until Pinchas took action and took a lance and thrust it through the bellies of Zimri and Cozbi, thus “staying” the plague. As Adonai called it, “making an atonement for the children of Israel’ “Blood” for “blood”

How can we relate this action with Yeshua/Jesus? Man has sinned against God, and sin separates us from HIM. There had to be an atonement, "blood for blood" HIS sinless, pure blood which was shed, for our sinful blood. The blood of Zimri and Cozbi "satisfied and ended the "wrath of God" (even though they were not in any way "holy") Pinchas thrusted the "lance" through their bodies. The Roman soldier "thrusted" the lance into the side of Yeshua! Out poured blood from both Zimri, Cozbi, and Yeshua. The blood of Yeshua, though, poured out pure and sinless, yet HE paid the price of sin for Zimri, Cozbi, and all of us who have fallen short of the glory of God.

Yeshua/Jesus thus made a "Brit Shalom"(A covenant of Peace) between the Father and mankind with his own sinless blood, taking our punishment and giving us eternal life with HIM. All we have to do is accept it by accepting HIM as LORD and Savior, being "born again" (John 3:3)

We can see why this action might reflect his name "Pinchas." (Mouth of the Serpent). When a serpent opens its mouth, one can see the fangs which yield poison. The serpent will strike and the fangs will be embedded into the victim, causing death. The "fangs" of Pinchas was his lance, which he used to end the lives of Zimri and Cozbi and to stop the plague.

We find this a very “rash” thing to do, yet, we need to understand that Israel was under a “theocracy” and not a “democracy”. Their ruler, King, commander-in-chief was YHVH himself. God calls the shots, makes the rules, and decides outcomes. Under our “democracy,” we have presidents, kings, senators, governors, etc. who make rules and vote on rules and outcomes. Try being “zealous” for God today the same way Pinchas did would land us in prison very quickly.

Another thing we must remember is that we ALL have two natures, the “Yetzer Hara” (The evil inclination, or the sin nature) and the “Born again” spirit-filled nature that comes when we accept Yeshua as Messiah and LORD. Both live inside us, and some things can “trigger” that old sin nature and cause havoc and misery in our lives. In the case of the Israelite men, it was the arrival of the Midianite and Moabite prostitutes, and not only did they bring a curse upon the encampment of the Israelites, but they also brought death to 24,000 of the population.

Now, it seems like a large number, but if we realize that the Israelites probably numbered 2 or 3 million, then that number is quite small. We need to also realize that not ALL of Israel went after “Baal-Peor” only the ones that went after the prostitutes. One can also ask a question; “Can one change his or her nature of being?” To answer this question, we need to look at a story.

A king once had two sons. To test them, he asked them that question. The first son said; “Yes, one can change his or her nature.” Yet the second son said; “No, one can never change his or her nature.

The king said; “Go out and prove your statement, you have a week.” So, both sons went out and after a week, they returned to the palace. The first son came near the king and queen with a large cloth bag. He put it on the floor and out came a cat. The cat was dressed in fine linen and had a servant’s hat. The cat got up and walked on its two hind legs and lifted a small silver tray towards the king and queen. On the tray were two chocolates. The king and queen smiled and marveled at the cat and accepted the two chocolates. Everyone applauded! How wonderful!

The second son said; “wait a minute.” Then he took a small cloth bag and emptied it on the floor and out ran 5 mice. When the cat saw the mice, it dropped the tray and ran after them on all four paws. “You see,” said the son, “the cat went back to its old nature, it only needed a “trigger”. You can dress a cat in fine clothes and teach it a few tricks, but it will always be a cat, and cats chase mice according to their feline nature.

We will always have our “old nature of sin” with us, and it will rear up its ugly head, as Rav Shaul (Apostol Paul) testifies in Romans 7:14-25. Only physical death will free us from the “old sin nature” Every day it is a constant battle. The spirit against the flesh and the flesh against the spirit.

Now back to the action of Pinchas. His faith and love for the Torah and God were backed by “action”. We could take other examples. A cat lover walks by a group of mean kids who are teasing a cat, pulling its tail, and just giving it a hard time. The cat lover could just say; “poor cat” and start to cry over it and continue walking…or…the cat lover could run up to the mean kids and push them aside, grabbing the cat and taking it to safety. The cat lover not only showed love and compassion for the cat but also showed an active and positive “action”.

The same can be said about protesting against the murder of the unborn through abortions, many people will write letters and let their voices be heard, instead of just feeling sorry for the unborn who are murdered inside female wombs.

Later on, in this Parashah, we see that Moshe intercedes for Israel when Adonai tells him to go up Mt. Abiram and take a look around because he will die there. Adonai appoints “Yehoshua” as Moshe’s successor, to lead the people into the promised land. We see two leaders now, “Pinchas” who is granted the title and inheritance of “High Priest” for his action, he symbolizes the “Kana” (Zeal) for Adonai, and Yehoshua, who is given the “Ruach Elohim” to lead the people. Yehoshua is the same as “Yeshua” for HE is the one who leads US in our lives today. Yeshua also showed “Kana” when he drove out the money changers in the temple, he used a bit of violence, yet not for “religious” reasons, but for the “love” of HIS father and for respect for HIS HOUSE. Today HIS HOUSE consists of all “Kehilot” (assemblies) of born-again believers all over the world, not buildings

There are other ways one can show “zeal” for YHVH today; Loving his Torah, obeying his commandments, teaching his Word to those who would listen, loving our neighbors, supporting our local body of believers, voting for government officials who also uphold biblical standards. Pointing out sinful ways to sinners (in a loving, not condemning way) and pointing them to a personal relationship with Yeshua our Messiah. We can also show zeal when we lead believers away from false teachings, from false doctrines and there are many out there. Many young believers and trapped inside false cults that "claim" to be Christian.

Chapters 28 and 29 deals with the review of the sacrifices and offerings that the Israelites would offer to YHVH. Remember that they are about to cross over the Jordan to possess the promised land. There they would be “permanent residents” and the fight would continue to cast out the Canaanites (another reason for the census) to see how many “fighting men” the nation consisted of. Every element of the offerings and sacrifices illustrates who YESHUA is and what he stands for;

2 lambs per day, fine flour with oil; Yeshua who is the Lamb of God, who is the BREAD of Life, who has the Ruach HaKodesh (The Holy Spirit) within him. The oil symbolizes the Spirit of Elohim and the “anointing by the Spirit on ALL believers. Wine was also used to pour over the sacrifices, the “wine” symbolizes the blood of Yeshua that ran down the cross, out of his veins for atonement for all who believe and accept his sacrifice for sin.

Bullocks were also sacrificed, the bullock symbolizes “strength” as the ancient symbol of the letter “Alef” was in the form of a bull. Adonai is “strength” yet he allowed himself to become “lower than the angels” to walk as man and be a willing sacrifice for sin. The goats remind us of Yom Kippur, one was set free and the other sacrificed, reminding us that our sins were “cast away” from us as well as dealt with on the cross. The sacrificed rams remind us of the “ram” that was in the thicket when Abraham offered his son Isaac as a sacrifice. That ram was sacrificed instead of Isaac, just as Yeshua was offered as a blood sacrifice in our place.

Have a blessed week all of you who have finished reading this.
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Which VP Choice Would Help Harris Most In Winning The Presidency And Why?

Harris will make the choice before August 7th.

Which VP choice would help Harris most in winning the presidency and why?

Which candidate would hurt her chances?

The following seem to have the inside track: Cooper, Shapiro and Kelly.

As an aside, the VP debate should be fun to watch.

Wonderful Examples of Christian Faith

As far as becoming a Christian I believe it is as easy as... If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:9

After that the Holy Spirit will guide the new Christian to... Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. - 2 Timothy 2:15

From there the new Christian is encouraged to obstain from fleshly desceptions and to pursue the will of God, encluding... For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; - 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4

And to the end to see a wonderful Spirit formed within the Christian... - My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you. - Galatians 4:19

I personally have no denominational recommendations and personally visit a variety of churches. It is always nice, though, to run into someone who has progressed well along the way. Here is a gentleman who has worked his way into a conference superintendent and continues to study and in Christian Ministries.

Terron Gentry serves as the North Georgia District Superintendent of the CHC. He has served as Christian Education Director, Church Planter, and Senior Pastor. His ministerial experience totals over 31 years serving in these areas. He is pursuing his MBA at Lee University and is currently enrolled in the undergraduate program as Christian Ministries with an emphasis on Business. Terron feels that because of our rich Pentecostal Heritage along with our Common Ground Initiative, we will advance the Kingdom of God together! - About - North Georgia Congregational Holiness Church

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Asking more prayers…

My mother had a breathing emergency when she was in the doctor’s office. I had to take her into the walk-in connected with the hospital today because it’s Sunday. She almost stopped breathing in the office today. She caught a virus and she has pre-existing conditions. Thanks be to God that it happened there. I really thought she was going to die before my eyes. I ran out and said there was an emergency and they rushed in to help. After she was stabilized we had to go to the hospital for x-rays and lab work. We got the x-rays but we will have to get the labs tomorrow as they were overwhelmed with a 5 car pile up. It was terrifying and we are all exhausted. Prayers appreciated.

Thank you! :praying:

God's desire to save

The following scripture seems to quite clearly be talking about salvation, and man's free will. Why is it that some people insist that Jesus was not speaking about it in that context.

Mat 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!

Irenaeus [A.D. 120-202] who wrote many passages on the free will of man, in the following he states man is a free agent regarding salvation, and God does not force or coerce a man into either a saved or damned state, writting:

1. This expression [of our Lord], “How often would I have gathered thy children together, and thou wouldest not,” (Mat 23:37) set forth the ancient law of human liberty, because God made man a free [agent] from the beginning, possessing his own power, even as he does his own soul, to obey the behests (ad utendum sententia) of God voluntarily, and not by compulsion of God. For there is no coercion with God, but a good will [towards us] is present with Him continually. And therefore does He give good counsel to all. And in man, as well as in angels, He has placed the power of choice (for angels are rational beings), so that those who had yielded obedience might justly possess what is good, given indeed by God, but preserved by themselves. On the other hand, they who have not obeyed shall, with justice, be not found in possession of the good, and shall receive condign punishment: for God did kindly bestow on them what was good; but they themselves did not diligently keep it, nor deem it something precious, but poured contempt upon His super-eminent goodness. (Translated by Rev. Rambaut W. H. 1867, Against Heresies - Book 4 Ch 37)
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Tenth Avenue North - By Your Side (2000s Christian Music)

Ah, a classic from the 2000s. Tenth Avenue North was on the Christian Radio back in the late 2000s and early 2010s. No autotune, just emotional chords and wholesome lyrics.

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By Your Side (2008) Lyrics:

[Verse 1]
Why are you striving these days?
Why are you trying to earn grace?
Why are you crying?
Let me lift up your face
Just don't turn away

[Verse 2]
Why are you looking for love?
Why are you still searching
As if I'm not enough?
To where will you go child?
Tell me where will you run
To where will you run?

[Chorus]
Cos I'll be by your side wherever you fall
In the dead of night whenever you call
And please don't fight these hands that are holding you
My hands are holding you

[Verse 3]
Look at these hands at my side
They swallowed the grave on that night
When I drank the world's sin
So I could carry you in
And give you life
I want to give you life

[Chorus]
And I'll be by your side wherever you fall
In the dead of night whenever you call
And please don't fight these hands that are holding you
My hands are holding you
Here at my side wherever you fall
In the dead of night whenever you call
And please don't fight these hands that are holding you
My hands are holding you

[Bridge]
Cos I, I love you
I want you to know
That I, yeah I'll love you
I'll never let you go, no, no

[Chorus]
And I'll be by your side wherever you fall
In the dead of night whenever you call
And please don't fight these hands that are holding you
My hands are holding you
Here at my side wherever you fall
In the dead of night whenever you call
And please don't fight these hands that are holding you
My hands are holding you
Here at my side
My hands are holding you, oh

Hymn Per Week Series: Page 24

Hello folks. Today marks the 3rd installment in the Hymn Per Week Series, which will happen on most weekends. Today is a 17th century hymn known as O Holy Spirit, Enter In. All hymns are freely available from the Open Hymnal Project.

Open Hymnal Project (2014 Hymnal PDF): http://openhymnal.org/OpenHymnal2014.06.pdf


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Video (Lutheran Hymn, but applies to all denominations including Catholics):
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The Phone Call Between The Obamas And Kamala Was As Fake As It Gets In Politics


Did you hear the “big news”? Barack and Michelle Obama endorsed Kamala Harris for President! Yes, it was Earth-shattering and really a game-changer…or something, at least according to the media. In reality, it was staged bit of political theater that exposed just how phony Harris and the entire Democratic Party establishment truly are.
Does anyone really believe that a phone call took place like that? If it did, the Obamas hate Kamala Harris. If it didn’t, the Obamas hate Kamala Harris.
First, Kamala is walking backstage somewhere with a film crew weirdly recording her walking with a junior staffer who carries her phone when the call comes in. The junior staffer hands the phone to Harris with it on speaker, for reasons unknown. Then she’s shocked both Michelle and Barack were on the call at the same time.
Michelle gives a completely fake, “Hey there,” to which Harris replies, “Aw, hi, you’re both together!” Is that how a human being answers a call? These aren’t the Clintons, is them both being on the phone out of the ordinary?
Then, in one of the worst and most awkward cuts in campaign ad history, Kamala is out of the theater and in a parking garage, standing by her SUV. Then Michelle, after literally only having said “Hey there,” launches into, “I can’t have this phone call without saying to my girl Kamala: I am proud of you. This is going to be historic.”
Literally, that’s every word Michelle Obama says in the video of the call the Harris campaign released. What does it mean? Nothing. “This is going to be historic”? Every presidential election is historic. Was she trying to say this would be different because she’s a black and Indian woman? Black has been done, woman has been done, and Democrats don’t really care about the Indian part, so what? Why couldn’t she have that phone call without saying that?
Even more confusing was all Barack said was, “We called to say Michelle, and I couldn’t be prouder to endorse you and to do everything we can to get you through this election and into the Oval Office.” Neither of them utter another word or even make a sound in the call, nothing.

Why did Matthew write the Parable of the Talents and Luke write the Parable of the Ten Minas?

Matthew 25:14-30 and Luke 19:11-27 were different parables on different occasions.

1 talent = 60 minas

What is the significance of this difference?

Matthew used a more substantial unit of money. Both taught stewardship, responsibility, accountability, and judgment. I don't see much significant difference between the two parables.

God of understanding- philosophy

2 Peter 3:9 KJV:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Haggai 2:9 KJV
"The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the LORD of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the LORD of hosts."

Matthew 5:15-16 KJV
'Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. '

My Respond:

I have faith in God's promise- to be set free from sin 2 Peter 3:9KJV. in God's house , God house is peace even as it is in mine house- Haggai 2:9 KJV. Allowing me to have what I want . That the word of God will not return unto to me void.(Matthew 5:15-16 KJV) The Gospel of Jesus Christ

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Ephesians 4:9 and 1 Peter 3:18-19 A mostly forgotten Matter of Doctrine (Opinions and Discussion)

Did the Holy Spirit of Christ Descend into the Realm of the Dead (Sheol) and jail break Souls?

  • Yes (Athanasian Creed)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No,

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • I've never considered this

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I'm not sure, still undecided

    Votes: 1 14.3%
  • Yes, Only the Righteous Dead

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • Yes, The Righteous Dead and the Unrighteous Dead that Sincerely Repented to the HS of Christ

    Votes: 2 28.6%

Ephesians 4:9 But what does “He ascended” mean except that He descended to the lower parts of the earth?

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also suffered for sins once for all,
the righteous for the unrighteous,
that He might bring you to God,
after being put to death in the fleshly realm
but made alive in the spiritual realm.
19 In that state He also went and made a proclamation to the spirits in prison


Full Context given in Ephesians 4
Ephesians 4:8 For it says:

When He ascended on high,
He took prisoners into captivity;
He gave gifts to people.
9 But what does “He ascended” mean except that He descended to the lower parts of the earth?

Voting and Discussion Time... (Voting is only on Human Souls)

Did the Holy Spirit of Christ Descend into the literal Realm of the Dead (Sheol)

and jail break Souls from the Realm of the Dead, In your Opinion?

Spirit of Adoption

Adoption
Christians Receive the Spirit of Adoption


Rom 8:14 For as many (Christians) as are led by the Spirit of God, they (Christians) are the sons of God. Rom 8:15 For you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but you (Christians) have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we (Christians) cry, Abba, Father. Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself bears witness with our (Christians) spirit, that we are the children of God:

We are Waiting for the Adoption

Rom 8:23 And not only they (whole creation), but ourselves (Christians) also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Gentiles Receive the Adoption

Rom 9:4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertains the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

Christians Receive the Adoption

Gal 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world: Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, Gal 4:5 To redeem them (Christians) that were under the law, that we (Christians) might receive the adoption of sons. Gal 4:6 And because you (Christians) are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Gal 4:7 Wherefore you (Christians) are no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

Predestination Adoption of Christians

Eph 1:4 According as he (God) has chosen us (Christians) in him (Jesus) before the foundation of the world, that we (Christians) should be holy and without blame before him (God) in love: Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself (God), according to the good pleasure of his (God) will, Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his (God) grace, wherein he (God) has made us (Christians) accepted in the beloved (title of Jesus). Eph 1:7 In whom (Jesus) we (Christians) have redemption through his (Jesus) blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Rules for delegates in the Democratic convention

(I made a similar post near the end of another thread, but thought it was worth its own thread.)

There have been some claims about the change from Biden to Harris being illegitimate. So it seems reasonable to look at what the rules actually are.

Here's what the rule says about delegates:

“Delegates elected to the national convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.”

That is a recent change, replacing a rule that would have required the candidate to formally release delegates for them to vote for someone else. Obviously it's a matter of interpretation, but even if BIden hadn't withdrawn delegates could say that having a losing candidate does not reflect the intent of the primary voters..

The change was made specifically to give delegates more flexibility in unusual situations. Specifcally, in 1980 it appeared that Carter was going to lose, but because of the older "robot rule" there was no way to replace him. (Sound familiar?) The change would have allowed a replacement if the delegates wanted to do so.

So even if we don't assume that people who voted for Biden/Harris would want Harris to replace Biden if he withdrew, there's no problem. Democrat's rules are set up specifically to allow delegates to replace a candidate that is likely to lose. Republicans didn't make a similar change, so their delegates are still bound.

Much of the discussion about mini-primaries is irrelevant, since there are no other candidates. But in any case delegates are free to choose Harris.

This is separate from the question of whether it might have been wise to have more candidates to choose from. I'm looking only at what is legitimate.

I WAS PREY (Documentary)

I fell asleep with the remote in my lap. When I awoke it was on another channel. I had never heard of this show. I watched a woman in Churchill, Canada, who survived a polar bear attack and a coach in Gulf Shores, Alabama, who lost his arm to a shark.

My curiosity won't take me back.
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How was the NT canon decided?

Label the books Tobit, Judith, Baruch, Ecclesiasticus, Wisdom, and First and Second Maccabees as B7. They were part of LXX dated between 200 BCE to 50 CE. None of these are in today's Protestant canon of 27 NT books (B27). There are 39 books (B39) in the OT. Early church fathers often treat B7 as part of the Old Testament scriptures.

The formation of the NT canon was a complex process over centuries.

1st-2nd Centuries: Initially, churches shared letters and accounts of Jesus' life. Paul's letters were collected and circulated widely. The four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John) gained widespread acceptance. Early church fathers began quoting these texts as authoritative.

Key Factors for deciding a book's authority:

  1. Authenticity: Apostolic authority or direct connection to apostles or their immediate disciples.
  2. Acceptance by major church centers.
140 CE: Marcion's list was the first known attempt at a standard set of books of Scripture. It was rejected as heretical.

250 CE: Origen accepted B39, defended B7, and thought some books from B27 were iffy.

324 CE: Eusebius accepted 21 books from B27, and disputed the other 6 from B27. He didn't say much about B7. He wasn't dogmatic. He reported consensus and debates, not enforcing a canon.

367 CE was a key moment for the formal concept of canonicity. Athanasius of Alexandria listed B27 as "canonical" (kanonizomena)—the first surviving use of that term for a specific set of Christian scriptures. He considered B7 as not fully authoritative but secondary. He did not use the term "deuterocanonical".

382 CE: the Pope convened the Council of Rome with his selected bishops and scholars. They affirmed the 46 (39+7) OT books and the 27 NT books as authoritative without making any distinction between protocanonical and deuterocanonical concepts.

Fast forward to the Reformation. 1534 CE, Luther's complete German Bible was published with the B7 books placed in a separate section between the Old and New Testaments, labeled as "Apocrypha."

Did Luther remove books from the Bible?

No, he placed B7 in a new section of his German publication of the Bible.

1546 CE: the Catholic Church reacted in the Council of Trent. They decreed that the B7 books were on par with the other books of the canon. Later, Catholics called B7 "Deuterocanonical", meaning "second canon" in time, not meaning "secondary" in authority. They maintained that these books were part of the Christian tradition and were inspired.

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Hezbollah and Israel Are on the Brink of War....and Joe Biden is Silent about it



Where’s Joe Biden? As of writing this post at 2 am, there’s been no statement about the attack, not even a tweet. Who’s in charge of the White House? Does Joe Biden know there’s been an attack? In his last Oval Office address, Mr. Biden had a laundry list of items he thought he could get done, showing that he still had the mental capacity to carry out his duties. He needed to sound busy, but we’re on the brink of a second front opening in the Middle East between Israel and radical Islamic terrorists, and the president is AWOL.

Bill Gates alleged philanthropy.

Philanthropy is an altruistic effort to improve human welfare through charitable giving or other good works.

Bill Gates is NOT into Philanthropy; this is a tax shelter and can even be used to launder money. What amazes me is that the Government lets him get away with it. But that should be no surprise. Warren Buffet says his secretary pays more taxes than he does. They are very good at avoiding taxes and they are very good at fabricating a public image for themselves, so they look good to people.

No telling how much he paid for this article to make himself look good. Then he uses his search engine to promote his propaganda. The thing is that everyone buys into his scams. The government does regulate him a little bit but not that much. This does not even get into what he is doing with AI.

Billionaire Bill Gates Has 50% of His $46 Billion Trust Invested in 2 Brilliant Stocks​

Motley fool

What Does the Miracle of the Loaves and the Fishes Mean for Us?

User’s Guide to Sunday, July 28
The Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fish, shortened to the Church of the Multiplication, is  located at Tabgha, on the northwest shore of the Sea of Galilee in Israel. The modern church rests on the site of two earlier churches.
The Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fish, shortened to the Church of the Multiplication, is located at Tabgha, on the northwest shore of the Sea of Galilee in Israel. The modern church rests on the site of two earlier churches. (photo: Public domain)

Msgr. Charles Pope Sunday GuideJuly 26, 2024

Sunday, July 28, is the 17th Sunday in Ordinary Time. Mass readings: 2 Kings 4:42-44; Psalm 145:10-11, 15-16, 17-18; Ephesians 4:1-6; John 6:1-15

We have in today’s Gospel the very familiar Miracle of the Loaves and the Fishes. It contains a personal appeal directly from the Lord’s lips to our ears: “Where can we buy enough food for them to eat?” The Lord still bids us to get busy and join him in feeding the multitudes.

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Why I thought Bobrovsky was the Second Coming of Christ, and Stolarz was the Father...

Is it possible that the Son of God and His Father might be playing the greatest sport known to man?
What sport did Jesus play during his first 33 years of life?
Maybe he was a gladiator like today?
But today it's on Ice...


They were both seeking the "Holy" Grail...

Matthew 26:27


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Goaltenders make all the right saves,
and never sit in the Sin-bin, (penalty box)
2 Corinthians 5:21


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He shall walk on water, with help from his Father.
Matthew 14:26




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Edmonton will be conquered.
Numbers 24:18

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Then comes the peals of lightning...
Revelation 8:5

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Game 7 was played and won in SunRise,
John 11:24

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Life After Death With C.S. Lewis

The C.S. Lewis phenomenon did not end with his death

The worldwide cultural impact of C.S. Lewis during his own lifetime was phenomenal. This was evident in his being featured on the cover of Time Magazine in September 1947, an accolade which was only bestowed on those who had achieved global celebrity. At this time, he was known as a popular apologist who used his great imaginative gifts to defend the Christian creed. By 1947, he had written and published bestsellers, which included The Problem of Pain(1940), The Case for Christianity (1942) and Broadcast Talks (also 1942), which would late be expanded, repackaged and republished as Mere Christianity (1952). In addition to these works of nonfiction, Lewis also popularized and defended Christianity in his fictional works, such as The Screwtape Letters (1942), The Great Divorce (1945) and in three theological thrillers in the guise of science fiction, known collectively as The Space Trilogy (1938-45).

If anything, Lewis would become even more popular in the years following his making the cover of Time Magazine than he had been in the years before. In 1947, he had not even begun writing the seven delightful children’s books, known collectively as The Chronicles of Narnia, which would prove to be some of the bestselling children’s books of all time. The first of these, The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe (1950), is regularly listed in the top 10 bestselling works of literature ever written.

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‘ Spiritual Pilgrimage’: Photographer’s Quest to Capture Every Cathedral and Basilica in the US

As Benedict XVI told priests and seminarians at the cathedral in Bressanone, Italy, in August 2008, ‘on the basis of the cathedral’s beauty, we succeed in visibly proclaiming God, Christ and all his mysteries.’

Photographing all 193 cathedrals and 93 basilicas across the United States seems like a daunting project for anyone. But 10 years ago, Andrew Masi determined to visit and photograph each one — from east to west, north to south.

On Sunday, July 21, Masi headed back to the Cathedral-Basilica of the Sacred Heart in Newark, New Jersey, where his idea became firmly planted. He considered this visit a “homecoming” to the place where he decided to begin this quest as a “spiritual pilgrimage to visit and photograph all the Catholic cathedrals and basilicas in the United States,” he told the Register. “I just celebrated my 10th anniversary this past April.”

Masi’s idea started when he was at the Newark basilica on Easter Sunday in 2014. Waiting for Mass to begin, he was “gazing around the majestic cathedral and taking in everything from the architecture to the large, life-sized Stations of the Cross, to the beautiful stained-glass windows, to the magnificent pipe organ,” he recalled.

He kept thinking and wondering “if all the cathedrals in the United States look just as gorgeous, big and amazing as this one. That’s when the idea came into my head to see for myself and to photograph them.”

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