Would you vote for a person who believes or does these things?

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Trump still received 74 million votes-- more than any other before him (unless you count the 81 million, too).
I added a dash because Trump didn't get 74 million more, he got MORe votes (which was 74 million,total) than in 2016

I think that's what you are saying?
 
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Voting for team blue or team red isn't going to save this country from the mess it's in.
It will certainly HELP if we go Red

It looks like, from the polls, we are :)
 
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I added a dash because Trump didn't get 74 million more, he got MORe votes (which was 74 million,total) than in 2016

I think that's what you are saying?
You're correct. If Biden got 81 million, his opponent should have been significantly less
 
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You're correct. If Biden got 81 million, his opponent should have been significantly less
yeh, I always wondered about the total here, 81 plus 74 million because that looks like way more than registered voters.. That is about half the population of the US but as we all know, a huge part of the US population is not old enough to vote and then there are the people who don't bother voting... doesn't add up
 
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yeh, I always wondered about the total here, 81 plus 74 million because that looks like way more than registered voters.. That is about half the population of the US but as we all know, a huge part of the US population is not old enough to vote and then there are the people who don't bother voting... doesn't add up
Molly Ball of Time magazine, an alleged journalist, boasted that they "fortified" the vote. When I was a kid, I wanted my mom to buy Wonder bread, because it was "fortified with 12 vitamins and iron. Fortified means you added something to an item.

Maybe they have a good explanation of this, but it's one I never heard. They also never explained why the Republican observers were escorted out and cardboard was put over windows during the vote counts, either.

Lots of things that make you go hmmm.
 
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Molly Ball of Time magazine, an alleged journalist, boasted that they "fortified" the vote. When I was a kid, I wanted my mom to buy Wonder bread, because it was "fortified with 12 vitamins and iron. Fortified means you added something to an item.

Maybe they have a good explanation of this, but it's one I never heard. They also never explained why the Republican observers were escorted out and cardboard was put over windows during the vote counts, either.

Lots of things that make you go hmmm.
It is not complicated.

1972 Nixon 47 million 60 percent 49 states -
total # of eligible voters - 140,777,000 #that voted - 77,625,000 % that voted - 55.1%

1984 Reagan 54 million 58 percent 49 states
total # eligible voters - 173,995,000 # that voted - 92,655,000 % that voted - 53.3%

2008 Obama 69 million 52 percent 28 states
total # eligible voters - 229,945,000 #that voted - 131,407,000 % that voted - 57.1%

2012 Obama 65 million 51 percent 26 states
total # eligible voters - 235,248,000 # that voted - 129,235,000 % that voted - 53.8%

2016 - Trump
total # eligible voters - 249,422,000 # that voted - 136,669,276 % that voted - 54.8%

2020 Biden 81 million 51 percent 25 states
total # eligible voters - 257,605,088 # that voted - 159,690,457 % that voted - 62%


A huge amount of voters really didn't like Trump and made sure to vote.
 
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It is not complicated.

1972 Nixon 47 million 60 percent 49 states -
total # of eligible voters - 140,777,000 #that voted - 77,625,000 % that voted - 55.1%

1984 Reagan 54 million 58 percent 49 states
total # eligible voters - 173,995,000 # that voted - 92,655,000 % that voted - 53.3%

2008 Obama 69 million 52 percent 28 states
total # eligible voters - 229,945,000 #that voted - 131,407,000 % that voted - 57.1%

2012 Obama 65 million 51 percent 26 states
total # eligible voters - 235,248,000 # that voted - 129,235,000 % that voted - 53.8%

2016 - Trump
total # eligible voters - 249,422,000 # that voted - 136,669,276 % that voted - 54.8%

2020 Biden 81 million 51 percent 25 states
total # eligible voters - 257,605,088 # that voted - 159,690,457 % that voted - 62%


A huge amount of voters really didn't like Trump and made sure to vote.
So that's why they escorted the Republican observers out, on election night, and covered windows with cardboard so no one could see what they were doing?
 
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So that's why they escorted the Republican observers out, on election night, and covered windows with cardboard so no one could see what they were doing?

CLAIM​
President Donald Trump has falsely claimed there were widespread abuses against his poll watchers across the country, and is using these false allegations to dispute the election results.​
He and his surrogates have pushed several variations of this claim in the last few days, ramping up their rhetoric as Democratic nominee Joe Biden gets close to victory.​
"The OBSERVERS were not allowed, in any way, shape, or form, to do their job and therefore, votes accepted during this period must be determined to be ILLEGAL," Trump tweeted Friday morning, a post that Twitter hid and labeled as part of its policy against election disinformation.​

This is false
EVIDENCE​
There have been no reports of systematic irregularities with poll watchers anywhere in the US. There is no evidence supporting the President's claims that GOP poll watchers were shut out of the process, and Trump's campaign still hasn't backed up this broad claim in court.​
CNN has reporters across the country following developments at polling places on Election Day and the ongoing vote-counting process, and saw nothing resembling Trump's allegations.​
Here's is a breakdown of what happened in key states.​


Here is a closer look at Mr. Trump's allegations about poll watchers, many of which are unsubstantiated.​
Claim: "They don't want us to have any observers, although we won a court case. The judge said you have to have observers."​
"Democrats have gone to the State Supreme Court to try and ban our election observers, and very strongly. Now, we won the case, but they're going forward. They don't want anybody in there."​
Rating: False.....​
Claim: "Poll workers in Michigan were duplicating ballots. But when our observers attempted to challenge the activity, those poll workers jumped in front of the volunteers to block their view so that they couldn't see what they were doing, and it became a little bit dangerous."​
Rating: False​
Mr. Trump did not present any evidence that Michigan poll workers were duplicating ballots, and it's unclear what he is referring to.​
Claim: "One major hub for counting ballots in Detroit covered up the windows, again, with large pieces of cardboard. And so they wanted to protect and block the counting area. They didn't want anybody seeing the counting, even though these were observers who are legal observers that were supposed to be there."​
Rating: Mostly false​
Mr. Trump appears to be making a reference to the TCF Center in Detroit, where chaos erupted earlier this week when election challengers yelled for counting by the 134 absentee voter counting boards to be halted because they were stopped from entering the counting space.​
But the issue was the number of election challengers allowed in the TCF Center. State law allows one challenger per party to serve in a counting board, and when Democratic and Republican election challengers were stopped from entering the TCF Center, it was because the number of challengers exceeded the maximum allowed by law.​

Lawrence Garcia, corporation counsel for the city of Detroit and a commissioner on the Detroit Election Commission, told CBS News on Wednesday the city was "not allowing more challengers in because we had gone over the 134 challenger limit for each party."​

On Twitter and in interviews, President Trump and his supporters have alleged that his campaign observers were blocked from ballot-counting rooms, hindering their ability to witness and report several instances of what the Trump campaign has baselessly claimed was widespread election fraud that has marred the results.​
“THE OBSERVERS WERE NOT ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTING ROOMS,” Mr. Trump alleged in a tweet on Saturday. “BAD THINGS HAPPENED WHICH OUR OBSERVERS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SEE.”​
The charge was without any basis in fact, and was, in reality, contradicted by several of Mr. Trump’s own legal filings.​
In cases that his campaign brought in Nevada and Pennsylvania — one dismissed, the other pending — it acknowledged that its observers were indeed present in the counting rooms. His lawyers were, rather, asking the courts to force election officials to allow Mr. Trump’s observers to get even closer views of the counting activity.​


Just because Trump spewed lies about the election, it doesn't make them true.
 
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well, I guess it is true that democracies, historically, never last long. It looks like ours is on the rocks, unless all the states clean up their voting systems.
What type of clean up do you have in mind?

A change from the majority voting system to proportional representation would clean up some problems (e.g. gerrymandering).
one good thing from seeing all the insanity, evil, lawlessness and I could go on and on:

makes you long for Heaven where there is NONE of that :)
:heart:
 
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Wow, those ar amazing statistics.

I knew it was bad (the lying about 2020) but...

81 million [roll eyes]. I sometimes doubt if there are even that many registered voters in the country, even including both parties.
Trumps style stirred up a lot of people [EDIT:] against him, and this mobilized Trump supporters … I see no reasonable doubt in these statistics.
 
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