The law of God is for believers in God. [Moved from GT]

[Godisgood12]

Lets be honest. All that are of God understand Gods law. Those that fight Gods law(Love), aren't of God.

Freedom is in Gods way.

 

[timewerx]

God's law is good....

Should a country's law and order breaks down by some disaster, God's laws will be the only thing that will stop you from degrading into a bloodthirsty animal.

Since being under the law is a curse, then be a bloodthirsty animal, pillaging homes, after all, it's sin within you that is at fault, not you.

 

[maco]

No matter how religious the carnal mind is it still has a has a problem with God's Law.

 

[BobRyan]

Lets be honest. All that are of God understand Gods law. Those that fight Gods law(Love), aren't of God.

Freedom is in Gods way.

Romans 8:6-8 affirms your point. There Paul points out that the lost cannot do anything but oppose the Law of God.

So also Rev 14:12 where we find that the saints "KEEP the commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"

So also 1John 5:1-4.

1Cor 7:19 "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God"

Though I think this thread will be moved to the Law of God sub folder for GT area.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[timewerx]

Romans 8:6-8 affirms your point. There Paul points out that the lost cannot do anything but oppose the Law of God.

So also Rev 14:12 where we find that the saints "KEEP the commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"

So also 1John 5:1-4.

1Cor 7:19 "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God"

Though I think this thread will be moved to the Law of God sub folder for GT area.

in Christ,

Bob

Those are verses rarely preached anymore!

So it can be hard to blame those who believed otherwise, they are probably deceived by wolves in preacher's clothing!

It's pretty obvious why such verses are kept in the dark... Those verses does best at driving away members. Ironically, Jesus wasn't a good one in keeping people (John 6:66). So modern preachers are way better??

 

[JCFantasy23]

MOD HAT ON

Thread has been moved from General Theology to Sabbath and The Law

MOD HAT OFF
​

 

[Cribstyl]

Lets be honest. All that are of God understand Gods law. Those that fight Gods law(Love), aren't of God.

Freedom is in Gods way.

Well then, Let's be honest, understanding the law is not the test for who is of God.
Jhn 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Hearing and understanding the word of God leads us to faith(believing) in God.
It can be said; If we're not following the gospel of Jesus Christ, we're not of God.

The law is of sin and death. The law is not of faith. Faith is the way of freedom,
Gal 3:12
And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

The man who puts himself under the law is force to keep the whole law or die for breaking one of it's commandments.


(notice that a direct response to the OP is proper protocol)

 

[Cribstyl]

God's law is good....

Should a country's law and order breaks down by some disaster, God's laws will be the only thing that will stop you from degrading into a bloodthirsty animal.

Since being under the law is a curse, then be a bloodthirsty animal, pillaging homes, after all, it's sin within you that is at fault, not you.

This may sound logical to you, but is it gospel?
The bible says that God used the foolishness of preaching to save those who believe. The bible says that the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation.
1Cr 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Cr 1:21
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

1Cr 1:23
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

 

[Cribstyl]

No matter how religious the carnal mind is it still has a has a problem with God's Law.

Is it the law, or;
The gospel is the power of God unto salvation?

 

[BobRyan]

Besides this law, commonly called the moral law, God was pleased do give the people of Israel ceremonial laws containing several typical ordinances. These ordinances were partly about their worship, and in them Christ was prefigured along with His attributes and qualities, His actions, His sufferings and His benefits. These ordinances also gave instructions about different moral duties. All of these ceremonial laws were appointed only until the time of reformation, when Jesus Christ the true Messiah and the only lawgiver, Who was furnished with power from the Father for this end, cancelled them and took them away.

This comes directly from - The "Baptist Confession of Faith"

 

[BobRyan]

As we all know --Paul says this.
[FONT=&quot]
1. Paul never commands gentiles to "Love God WITH ALL your heart".
2. Paul never commands gentiles "not to take God's name in vain"
3. Paul never commands gentiles to ignore the writings of Moses.
4. Paul DOES tell gentiles that Moses' writings are still authoritative scripture in 1Cor 9:8-9 and 1Tim 5:18 and binding as being "Law" and as being "scripture".
5. Paul quotes Moses TEN Commandments Eph 6:2. Full 5th commandment
6. Paul DOES teach that there remains therefore a "Sabbath rest for the people of God" Hebrews 4.
7. Paul DOES tell gentiles that "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Cor 7:19
8. Paul does tell gentiles "it is not the HEARERS of the Law that are just before God but the DOERS of the Law will be justifIED... on the day when according to my GOSPEL God will judge all mankind" Rom 2:13-16
9. Paul DOES ask that gentiles consider the doctrine of LAW "Do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Rom 3:31
10. Paul DOES tell gentiles that it is only the lost who will "not subject themselves to the LAw of God neither indeed CAN they" Rom 8:6-8
11. Paul DOES tell gentiles that "The Law" is in fact "The LAW of Moses" and is to be used for testing doctrine 1Cor 9:8-9
12. Paul DOES tell gentiles that the OT text is to be used for Doctrine 2Tim 3:16[/FONT]

 

[BobRyan]

Romans 8:6-8 affirms your point. There Paul points out that the lost cannot do anything but oppose the Law of God.

So also Rev 14:12 where we find that the saints "KEEP the commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"

So also 1John 5:1-4.

1Cor 7:19 "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God"

Those are verses rarely preached anymore!

So it can be hard to blame those who believed otherwise, they are probably deceived by wolves in preacher's clothing!

It's pretty obvious why such verses are kept in the dark... Those verses does best at driving away members. Ironically, Jesus wasn't a good one in keeping people (John 6:66). So modern preachers are way better??

Good point. The teaching of Christ is seldom welcomed in "popular pulpits".

in Christ,

Bob

 

[from scratch]

Romans 8:6-8 affirms your point. There Paul points out that the lost cannot do anything but oppose the Law of God.

So also Rev 14:12 where we find that the saints "KEEP the commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"

So also 1John 5:1-4.

1Cor 7:19 "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God"



Good point. The teaching of Christ is seldom welcomed in "popular pulpits".

in Christ,

Bob

Some here understand what both your verses mean and what you say they mean. The word commandments is a code word for you. John isn't referring to the Ten commandments in Rev 22:14. Evidence if this is found in John 15:10 and 1 John 3:23.

Lets look at 1 John 5:1-4

5 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
The blue his is being called into question of Who it refers to. Does it refer to God the Father or Jesus God the Son? Does it matter? Absolutely it does because that would change the meaning. So Who is John talking about here? Is he talking about God the Father or Jesus God the Son. I find no evidence John is talking about God the Father, Who issued the Ten Commandments Jesus kept according to John 15:10. Jesus did in no way ask or require the keeping of the Ten Commandments. Jesus ask and required us to keep His (Jesus') commandments. They obviously must be different by the statement of John 15:10.

The 1 Cor 7:19 quote continues to be divorced from and misapplied from Paul's argument.

I certainly agree the preaching of Jesus and His words aren't acceptable at church anymore by the attendees. This is why Jesus isn't welcome in pulpits.