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[redleghunter]

supporting friendship and peace with our muslim brothers

Your call for peaceful engagement is admirable. Can't disagree.

We need a big helping hand from the "silent majority" of Muslims who do not condemn the Jihadists. Most don't do so out of fear.

Don't get me wrong, we see some. The majority? Not close.

 

[redleghunter]

yes of course the Kurds and everyone who fights Isis. But will you help keep muslims in America?

I'm all for keeping good peaceful residents here in the US. Citizens have a right to stay here no matter what they say.

 

[redleghunter]

I'm scared Donald Trump is another Adolf Hitler

Not even close. He's actually a North East liberal tycoon posing as an isolationist.

Trump as a businessman says outrageous things for sound bite media coverage. Then he gets several sit down interviews where he tells people what he really meant and does so in a professional businessman manner.

Those outside the US are getting a caricature of Trump.

The caricature is close but he is not a maniacal genocidal maniac. Those types usually promise tolerance and prosperity to get power and then they lower the boom.

I'm not a Trump supporter. I just don't like inaccurate character assassinations of any candidate.

I deplored most of President Obama's economic policies but defended him on various forums and FB when people misrepresented his policies. I deplore more than anything when people reduce others to bumper stickers.

Trump has some serious issues but genocidal maniac is not one.

 

[Bethany35]

my favourite Trump thing was front cover of a newspaper that had a photo of him doing a salute.

And while we're on Trump 20 years ago he said that if he ever went into politics he'd go republican because they were the only party "dumb enough" to vote for him

 

[redleghunter]

my favourite Trump thing was front cover of a newspaper that had a photo of him doing a salute.

And while we're on Trump 20 years ago he said that if he ever went into politics he'd go republican because they were the only party "dumb enough" to vote for him

Yet he has actively supported liberal policies with his money. Yeah he's a piece of work.

He's no conservative.

 

[Bethany35]

true

 

[Job8]

Trump has some serious issues but genocidal maniac is not one.

The only serious issues with Trump are that he rejects the hypocrisy of the RINOs and speaks out without pulling any punches. That is refreshing after all the lies that have poured from politicians for decades. But the public has become so used to PC language that they can't stand the truth.

Calling him extreme names and slandering him is the left-liberal media's and politicians' response to someone who is exposing their agenda of covering up the truth and promoting lies and socialistic thinking. If Chinese soldiers were pouring into the USA to destroy the country, no one would be calling Trump a "genocidal maniac".

What Mr. Trump is saying about the Muslim war on America is something that should have been said decades ago. Islam has become radical and militant since back in 1979 or earlier, and Americans were attacked again and again simply for being Americans. Hatred for the West and western infidels has been preached in all the mosques of the world for decades. So to stop Muslim migration is not only logical, but extremely prudent in order to protect the citizens of the USA.

People should know that Saudi Arabia and other Muslim lands will never allow a Christian church to be built on their soil. But knowing the stupidity of western politicians they have built mosques througout the West as hotbeds of hatred. That is where their youth are radicalized and sent out as suicide bombers to obtain eternal Islamic glory. That's where the San Bernadino massacre originated. That's where the Paris massacre originated. That's where 9/11 originated. When will America wake up?

 

[Job8]

He's no conservative.

And do you believe any of the establishment Republicans are conservative? They hated the Tea Party and they hate Trump because they are a bunch of left-liberals lying to the public. Look at Paul Ryan right now. He is playing Obama's game just as Boehner before him. And the majority of the Republican presidential candidates are all pretenders wanting to play Obama's game also.

 

[redleghunter]

And do you believe any of the establishment Republicans are conservative? They hated the Tea Party and they hate Trump because they are a bunch of left-liberals lying to the public. Look at Paul Ryan right now. He is playing Obama's game just as Boehner before him. And the majority of the Republican presidential candidates are all pretenders wanting to play Obama's game also.

I do believe Cruz is conservative and Rand Paul to a certain extent.

My beef with Trump is how cozy he was with the Clintons and the North East liberal establishment.

 

[Job8]

My beef with Trump is how cozy he was with the Clintons and the North East liberal establishment.

People can change and people can see the light. Study Trump's position papers on the important issues from his website and you will see that he is quite conservative now (whatever he may have been in the past).

 

[Tawhano]

Since you know your History Brian, do you remember who it was that tried to get rid of all the jews in Germany? And here's Trump with the Muslims in america

Could you reference your source where Trump acknowledges that he is wanting to get rid of all the Muslims in America? Ever hear of a Straw man Fallacy? It is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.

 

[Tawhano]

And I know I am a christian, I would hate to work out what you were but not any Christian in my Church which is liberal and does a lot of work to look after the poor and homeless. As well as accepting gays and others.

Since you fail to use the quote function I have to assume your remark was to “farout”. This derogatory and hateful remark you made is uncalled for. As for your acceptance of “gays and others” I fail to see how that makes you a Christian or gives you the right to declare who is Christian and who is not.

 

[Bethany35]

Just as not all those who fought under Hitler were not hater of Jews, but they served any way, didn't they? I wonder have you read the Qur'an? Please, if someone says they don't accept all of the Qur'an but only parts. I ask what parts do you believe? As a Christian what you say you are, then according to the Qur'an you are to be lied to and eventually be brought into subjection and pay them tribute or die. Christian and Jews are hated. Now what do you say? Are they peaceful and kind and want to co- exist? Read a Qur'an then lets talk.

You're right Tawhano, but it was in direct reply to this hate speech

 

[Bethany35]

Since you fail to use the quote function I have to assume your remark was to “farout”. This derogatory and hateful remark you made is uncalled for. As for your acceptance of “gays and others” I fail to see how that makes you a Christian or gives you the right to declare who is Christian and who is not.

see above one please

 

[Mia Raye]

will you also ban westboro baptist for spreading hatred?

Westboro commits no crimes. The United States allows it's citizens to have free speech and they are aloud to voice their opinion. Until Westboro starts murdering people and terrorizing our country with bombs, they are as free as all other citizens. Most Americans simply ignore them.

 

[Bethany35]

Westboro commits no crimes. The United States allows it's citizens to have free speech and they are aloud to voice their opinion. Until Westboro starts murdering people and terrorizing our country with bombs, they are as free as all other citizens. Most Americans simply ignore them.

Mia,
perhaps I worry what they do is hate crime, and perhaps that where free speech should end
Beth

 

[Mia Raye]

America,
please dont start believing muslims are all terrorists. In fact, those who do the terror are in the minority.
London is not afraid of it, and you don't have to be either. We just have to pray for the people in countries that are being bombed surely.
The more fear there is of ISIS, the more people are working as they want. If we turn muslims away from the west, more chance they will hate us and become jihadists.

And should anyone claim all our Muslim friends are extremist take a look at Westboro, or that World War 2 was a Christian forcing jews and gays into concentration camps.

Westboro has not killed anyone. They are simply acting on their right to free speech. Most Americans ignore them.
Hitler was in Germany, not in the United States. We fought against him and rescued his victims.
Muslim Extremists murder with the intent to terrorize people. Unfortunately for the rest of the Muslim people, the extremists have succeeded. Americans are terrified of them. They identify themselves the same as any other Muslim person, we can't tell the difference until they are blowing us up. I know you are not all bad, but we have reason to be afraid. 9/11 will never be forgotten. Surely you can understand this.

 

[Bethany35]

Westboro has not killed anyone. They are simply acting on their right to free speech. Most Americans ignore them.
Hitler was in Germany, not in the United States. We fought against him and rescued his victims.
Muslim Extremists murder with the intent to terrorize people. Unfortunately for the rest of the Muslim people, the extremists have succeeded. Americans are terrified of them. They identify themselves the same as any other Muslim person, we can't tell the difference until they are blowing us up. I know you are not all bad, but we have reason to be afraid. 9/11 will never be forgotten. Surely you can understand this.

I am not Muslim but I sympathise, and yes Britain are concerned too. Sadly not allowing more Muslims in will mean more go to join as Jihadist fighters and it makes the problem bigger.

 

[Mia Raye]

I am not Muslim but I sympathise, and yes Britain are concerned too. Sadly not allowing more Muslims in will mean more go to join as Jihadist fighters and it makes the problem bigger.

I sympathise as well, I really do. But we can't just simply allow Muslims to come here and roam free. That gives extremists access and we have to keep our people safe. I would be in support of refugee camps for Muslim's who wish to find safety. However, they would be guarded by our soldiers and access into our country from the camps would not be allowed.

 

[Job8]

If you don't go back at least 100 years you can't have any real grip on the pressures and sentiments of the middle east.

What has caused the rise of Islamic extremism in the world?
Modern Islamic extremism grew out the Islamic revivalist movement, which began in the late 19th century. Islamic revivalism was a response to the perceived weakness of the Muslim world compared to the British empire, as well as the rise of secularism due to the increased influence of the Western values in Muslim countries. Thinkers associated with Islamic revivalism preached a fresh interpretation of Islamic texts based on goals of pan-Islamic unity and the establishment of Islamic states based on sharia law.

http://www.clarionproject.org/understanding-islamism/islamic-extremism

The goal is to establish Sharia law worldwide and a worldwide Caliphate. And if a few million innocents are slaughtered, the Islamists will achieve Paradise. According to the Koran all non-Muslims are infidels and all should either convert to Islam or be slaughtered. And according to Black Muslim leader Louis Farrakhan all whites should be killed. Check it out for yourself.