This is not a simple drug trip.
That's what I said - you quoted me saying that.
The brain of someone during a nde isn't experiencing the same things as the brain of somone going through a drug trip, even if someone who is really high can say such things.
There's no way to know that, but no two brains are the same, so it seems a reasonable assumption they're not identical - but there can be similarities.
For example, here is one person who died for an hour and a half. The brain and body were cooled so that they were not functioning, during surgery, then brought back. This person remained conscious and wasn't affected by the anesthesia as well.
In the video he says he went to sleep at first, then became conscious but paralysed as the operation started - as I said could happen. But then "Everything went black..." and he started having his hyper-vivid experience - including the same extreme emotional responses as have been reported in other cases of brains recovering activity after 'shutdown' and
similar to reports during drug-induced experiences. For the duration of inactivity, there will be no consciousness, no sense of the passage of time; when brain function resumes, experience resumes as if uninterrupted. I've already described how a seemingly lengthy experience may be produced in a relatively short time.
There is no similarity whatsoever between a drug trip and a NDE, sorry, unless you take the tales of someone who is really high as evidence, they can say whatever they want it is there drug fueled imagination that is doing it.
You can say that, but however much you dislike the idea, the some reports are are similar in key respects, that points to unusual activity in common areas of the brain. If you don't want to accept the reported experiences from controlled experiments with psychedelics, what makes you think reports of experiences from people suffering existential trauma are likely to be more reliable?
Don't forget that drugs like ecstasy and psychedelics function by either mimicking the brain's neurotransmitters or triggering the release of a surge of those neurotransmitters (dopamine, serotonin, vasopressin, oxytocin, endogenous opioids, etc.); if an excitable brain releases a surge of those neurotransmitters as it recovers from some physiological trauma or deep anaesthesia, the patient may have similar experiences.
I recommend you read more around this fascinating subject - Huxley's classic, '
The Doors of Perception', McKenna's '
True Hallucinations', Shulgin's '
PIHKAL', Oliver Sacks' '
Hallucinations', Stanislas Dehaene's '
Consciousness and the Brain', and others.
I am talking about people that have been clinically dead with no brain activity.
Clinically dead means no
detectable activity. But that doesn't matter, we can assume the neurons are quiescent; the reports are consistent with a surge of unusual activity as the brain
recovers function.
By all means believe in life after death, free-roaming consciousness, magical realms, etc., but these reports are also consistent with a neurological explanation, and if you directly stimulate the relevant specific brain areas, you can elicit every component of these experiences, from the overwhelming sense of love, a sense of hidden presence, voices, fantastical visions, expanded consciousness, dissolution of self, etc.
Just sayin'.
