Little Mosque on the Prairie

[SolomonVII]

Still trolling for suckers?

The Enlightened One is not interested.

 

[Christian_Believer22]

I pointed out not all Muslims are extreme or terrorists.

I must be Un-American too.

Well good, if to be unamerican I give into fear and fallacious arguments.

I'll be glad to be unamerican.

Like I suggested to the Blackwater, if you are so confident that Muslims are not that extreme and the majority of them no different than the Huckstable family, why don't you take a trip to any Muslim country wearing a Christian symbol on the outside of your clothes and test your theory of how tolerant of other religions they are?

 

[Christian_Believer22]

Not that the entire Saudi population even makes up 10% of the Muslim world, or that intolerance is the same thing as terrorism... but hey.

YOU claimed 10% of Muslims are terrorists. I would like to see some figures to back it up, please. Otherwise, I'm sort of forced to conclude you're just pulling figures out of the air to support your a priori beliefs.

Intolerance to the point of putting a gun to an elderly woman's face just for wearing a symbol of her faith is extremism. This happened in an Islamic country (Turkey) that liberals like to describe as relatively moderate and secular. And Muslim extremists are the ones capable of acting in or supporting Islamic terrorism. Since this kind of extremism usually becomes the law of the land in most Muslim countries, I would suggest that the 10% figure I gave might even be an underestimate. I can't remember where I got that figure from, but I will look further into it to find out where I got that number. But let me ask you a question. What percentage of Muslims do you think it takes for a country to enact Sharia Islamic law? And do you think it's right for Sharia Islamic law to execute homosexuals or to stone women for adultery?

 

[Blackwater Babe]

Intolerance to the point of putting a gun to an elderly woman's face just for wearing a symbol of her faith is extremism. This happened in an Islamic country (Turkey) that liberals like to describe as relatively moderate and secular. And Muslim extremists are the ones capable of acting in or supporting Islamic terrorism. Since this kind of extremism usually becomes the law of the land in most Muslim countries, I would suggest that the 10% figure I gave might even be an underestimate. I can't remember where I got that figure from, but I will look further into it to find out where I got that number. But let me ask you a question. What percentage of Muslims do you think it takes for a country to enact Sharia Islamic law? And do you think it's right for Sharia Islamic law to execute homosexuals or to stone women for adultery?

So this incident of putting a gun in an elderly woman's face for wearing a Christian symbol... is this a common occurence?

I'd appreciate a source for the 10% figure, thanks.

I have no idea what percentage it takes to enact sharia law. Is it your contention that sharia law and Islamic extremism and terrorism are synonymous?

 

[Blackwater Babe]

Like I suggested to the Blackwater, if you are so confident that Muslims are not that extreme and the majority of them no different than the Huckstable family, why don't you take a trip to any Muslim country wearing a Christian symbol on the outside of your clothes and test your theory of how tolerant of other religions they are?

Do examples of Christians acting in similar fashion extrapolate to all Christians, or indicate that 10% of them, give or take, are violent extremists?

 

[SolomonVII]

How Many Islamists? :: Daniel Pipes

 

[NoBama2012]

Pointing out that not all Muslims are extremist terrorists is not "anti American".

Guess what: Not all Nazies were extremists during WWII, but Nazism is still an evil ideology.

During WWII, there were many average German families - husband, wife, kids, etc, - who were just trying to get through the whole mess alive. Only a scant few Germans actually had anything to do with death camps and other attrocities. Even the average army foot soldier was usually just trying to do his bit and not get killed.

So, using your logic, we should befriend the average blue-collar Nazi, as long as they are not the ones actually lynching people or anything, right? Can't blame all Nazis for what Hitler and Himler and Goering did, right?

 

[Christian_Believer22]

So this incident of putting a gun in an elderly woman's face for wearing a Christian symbol... is this a common occurence?

It happens as often as any Christian in a Muslim Sharia law country wears any kind of Chrisitan symbol that is exposed. Since most travelers are pre-warned that this will happen if you wear any kind of Christian symbol in a Muslim country, most don't dare do it. Apparently, the woman who got the gun to her face must have believed the liberal propaganda that they are just like us. But a gun to the face can change one's perception very quick. And like I said, this happened in an airport in Turkey which is touted by liberals as being an example of one of the more moderately secular Muslim countries. My wife knew this lady.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

Guess what: Not all Nazies were extremists during WWII, but Nazism is still an evil ideology.

During WWII, there were many average German families - husband, wife, kids, etc, - who were just trying to get through the whole mess alive. Only a scant few Germans actually had anything to do with death camps and other attrocities. Even the average army foot soldier was usually just trying to do his bit and not get killed.

So, using your logic, we should befriend the average blue-collar Nazi, as long as they are not the ones actually lynching people or anything, right? Can't blame all Nazis for what Hitler and Himler and Goering did, right?

Indeed, one cannot blame all NAZIs for what the hierarchy did. There is actually a great deal about national socialism to admire. Unfortunately, because of the either/or tendency of most Americans, anything related to NAZIs is synonymous with "bad", regardless of the specifics.

So... Islam is an "evil ideology"? Is that the basis for your comparison?

 

[Blackwater Babe]

It happens as often as any Christian in a Muslim Sharia law country wears any kind of Chrisitan symbol that is exposed. Since most travelers are pre-warned that this will happen if you wear any kind of Christian symbol in a Muslim country, most don't dare do it. Apparently, the woman who got the gun to her face must have believed the liberal propaganda that they are just like us. But a gun to the face can change one's perception very quick. And like I said, this happened in an airport in Turkey which is touted by liberals as being an example of one of the more moderately secular Muslim countries. My wife knew this lady.

That often, huh?

2 questions for you... 1, where, precisely, does sharia law ban the wearing of Christian symbols by Christians?

2. You are aware that Turkey isn't a sharia law governed country, right?

 

[NoBama2012]

Pointing out that not all Muslims are extremist terrorists is not "anti American".

Guess what: Not all Nazies were extremists during WWII, but Nazism is still an evil ideology.

During WWII, there were many average German families - husband, wife, kids, etc, - who were just trying to get through the whole mess alive. Only a scant few Germans actually had anything to do with death camps and other attrocities. Even the average army foot soldier was usually just trying to do his bit and not get killed.

So, using your logic, we should befriend the average blue-collar Nazi, as long as they are not the ones actually lynching people or anything, right? Can't blame all Nazis for what Hitler and Himler and Goering did, right?

Indeed, one cannot blame all NAZIs for what the hierarchy did. There is actually a great deal about national socialism to admire............

You heard it here first everyone.

Maybe I should get a job as an interviewer.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

You heard it here first everyone.

Maybe I should get a job as an interviewer.

You ever flown in a jet aeroplane, or used a freeway? Then guess what?

No, of course, just as predicted, rather than actually discuss a nuanced issue, you'll just go for the "everything associated with NAZIsm=bad and evil" stereotype. Which is odd. Given your politics, I'd have thought you would approve of things like rebuilding a shattered economy from woeful mismanagement and achieving effective total employment after years of unemployment rates being in the low 20s.

 

[CruciFixed]

This look familiar?

Persuasion is the act of getting a sentient being other than yourself to adopt a particular belief or pursue a particular action.

Stubbornness

The cornerstone of good persuasive arguing is stubbornness. You must never, under any circumstances, concede that your opponent might ever possibly be right. Openmindedness has led to the downfall of many great debaters. If you find yourself doubting the correctness of your position, don't let it show. Repeat to yourself, "I am right. I am right." If you can't convince yourself that you're right, you'll never convince others that they're wrong. Here is an example of the use of stubbornness in a debate:

• You: "The moon is made of cheese."
• Opponent: "Umm. It's a proven fact that the moon is NOT made of cheese."
• You: "The moon is made of cheese."
• Opponent: "Ok, look, I have a piece of moon ROCK at my house. It is not made of cheese. It is made of ROCK."
• You: "The moon is made of cheese."
• Opponent: "No, it isn't. We've sent ships to the moon. People landed on it. They looked at it. They said it was made of ROCK. They brought back ROCK. It is made out of ROCK."
• You: "The moon is made of cheese."

How To Be Persuasive

 

[NoBama2012]

You ever flown in a jet aeroplane, or used a freeway? Then guess what?

No, of course, just as predicted, rather than actually discuss a nuanced issue, you'll just go for the "everything associated with NAZIsm=bad and evil" stereotype. Which is odd. Given your politics, I'd have thought you would approve of things like rebuilding a shattered economy from woeful mismanagement and achieving effective total employment after years of unemployment rates being in the low 20s.

I have actually flown quite a bit, both overseas and domestically.

And what the heck does that have to do with me saying that Nazism is an evil ideology, and your reply that "there is actually a great deal about national socialism to admire."

How do you find things to admire in Nazism and in evil ideologies?


People, is it me, or is this just crazy?

 

[new_wine]

I consider myself a real citizen of The Republic.

But when I see to some folk that you have to be in line step with them, without question or hesitation, I would rather not be part of their US.

Those kind tried this BS with Communism and they got me back then. I made a huge mistake and I served them. I served and I daily pay for it. Now I know better and I won't give in again. I've gotten older and more prudent than I was when I was younger.

If you think that is all justg a big conspiracy set up by the american government, then why wouldn't you be?

Really you ought to be if it is all a big set up to manipulate us into doing their will.

 

[NoBama2012]

Its not just you. Liberals will always sympathize with evil and turn away from what is good

Yes, but look at this:

My position? I am a conservative

Something does not add up here.

 

[CruciFixed]

Oh oh I SEE!!

Good=Bad Bad=Good
LIBERAL=Conservative

She disagrees to disagree, goes off topic, loves diversion, and sympathizes with Nazis....
Um. ok.

I'll believe shes a conservative when Aquaman drowns. (yes im a nerd)

 

[Antigone]

I don't know if it has been mentioned in this thread before, but has anyone seen Four Lions?

YouTube - Four Lions Trailer

 

[Antigone]

Its not just you. Liberals will always sympathize with evil and turn away from what is good.

This is the second time I've seen you say this.

I'm a liberal and I find it deeply offensive to be described as evil. Besides that, your stupid generalisations are all wrong.

So cut it out.

 

[CruciFixed]

This is the second time I've seen you say this.

I'm a liberal and I find it deeply offensive to be described as evil. Besides that, your stupid generalisations are all wrong.

So cut it out.

You cut it out. I didn't call liberals evil I said liberals sympathize with evil. That's what I see and I call it as I see it. Get a grip on yourself.

Actually I never said anything rude to you in all the time I've been here but you've been rude to me. So here's the thing I am going to block you. Period.