Your sons and your daughters shall propesy

[Windmill]

Preaching is not a part of speaking under inspiration? I think maybe I missed the part when they always pray before the sermon that God will speak through the preachers.

So you think pastors are therefore prophets?

Hmmm...christian churches don't have priests? Does your bible have this passage in it?

No. But the reason it doesn't have verses is because its simple: there were no priests, therefore, why would they need to mention them being done away with?! You say that priests had to be first born and male: yet, you only care when you decide that pastors and priests must be the same that the male aspect stays. What about the first born requriement? How quick are you to forget that? Oh, but its suppsoed to represent Christ and her bride? What the heck? Therefore, since the first born was the requrement to properly represent that in the OT, shouldn't it still be there for the new? How hypocritical is this? You pick and choose what you want to hear.

Priests were part of the sacrifical system. We don't have priests, we have pastors. They were replaced with disciples, which we think of as pastors. Where, in the bible, does it say a disciple must be a male? They only had males, sure... but does it make that a requirement? It sort of does through the Timothy verse, yet that would therefore exclude EGW since she did those things.

So we run into a pickle now, don't we? EGW did what the bible says she shouldn't. I see why you think only males should be pastors- yet, ONLY if you look at the 1 Timothy verse, perhaps 1 Corinthians one. That is the only way you can justify such a stance. Since you are not justifying it through that, but rather, the sacrifical priest system, you are basically in effecting stomping on Jesus sacrifice which did away with the old system and keeping things you don't have to.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Have you looked up the greek for that word? The word was figurative language, used to give the people an idea of what he was meaning. Not that there were actual priests.

Whats worse though for your argument is if you read on, look what he says;

[bible]1 Peter 2:10[/bible]

EVERYONE is part of this "royal priesthood". Males, females included. It is all of the people of God. This just runs circles around the idea that disciples/pastors must be males. It has no relevance, and only furthers the idea that perhaps we are possibly equal, actually. In fact, the very verse you stated shows its referring to EVERYONE being priests, NOT JUST MEN!

She was just that what she called herself 'a messenger of God', not a priest, understand the difference.

There is a difference: yet that doesn't mean she didn't act like a PASTOR not a priest because they were done away with she DID taught, she DID exert authority over men. She HAD PASTOR CREDENTIALS. Just because she didn't call herself one doesn't mean she wasn't basically one. She never spoke out against women pastors, likely because she was part of the general conference vote in the 1800's which voted FOR them. She DID speak great things about women bible workers, i.e. women bible TEACHERS.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Windmill, if women are to have absolutely no authority over men, consider the fact that OnTheDL is a male, and you're arguing with him.

Obviously the texts don't mean what you think they do. Either that or you yourself do not feel compelled to follow them.

The woman is not to have authority over her husband. That doesn't mean a woman cannot speak, write, or teach about Godly things.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

 

[TrustAndObey]

There are plenty of verses in scripture that seem to contradict each other. Paul wrote Galatians too.

The "trick" is gathering all verses in scripture pertaining to a certain subject and getting the overall message. In fact, that's exactly how scripture says to study scripture.