What's the difference between Pentecostal and Charismatic?

[RadixLecti]

What's the difference between Pentecostal and Charismatic?

I was talking with great friend of mine and we were both wondering what the answer to this question was. We came to the conclusion that my church was "charismatic" because it is an Anglican church that believe's that all the various spiritual gifts listed in the New Testament are active in the Church today and desirable in the life of a Christian. Whereas the church he goes to is pentecostal because it did not come from a traditional protestant denomination. It beleived in the gifts since it started.

what do you guys think? Is there a better explanation?

 

[Chortos]

What's the difference between Pentecostal and Charismatic?

I was talking with great friend of mine and we were both wondering what the answer to this question was. We came to the conclusion that my church was "charismatic" because it is an Anglican church that believe's that all the various spiritual gifts listed in the New Testament are active in the Church today and desirable in the life of a Christian. Whereas the church he goes to is pentecostal because it did not come from a traditional protestant denomination. It beleived in the gifts since it started.

what do you guys think? Is there a better explanation?

The fundamental difference between Charismatic vs. Pentecostal is not "denominational". The difference is whether one's doctrine embraces a doctrine of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit as a second work of God's grace. Then, there are divisions within that category.

 

[flaglady]

This was asked some while ago. I'll search it out and give you the link as it was very well debated and answered.

 

[JEBrady]

The fundamental difference between Charismatic vs. Pentecostal is not "denominational". The difference is whether one's doctrine embraces a doctrine of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit as a second work of God's grace. Then, there are divisions within that category.

Interesting. I thought Pentecostal was denominational, the full-gospel denominations that formed as a result of Azusa street. Charismatic, as I understand, was mainline denominations that got the baptism in the Holy Spirit during the 70s.

Hope flaglady finds the link. I can't find a search function on this forum (and it drives me nuts).

 

[Chortos]

Interesting. I thought Pentecostal was denominational, the full-gospel denominations that formed as a result of Azusa street. Charismatic, as I understand, was mainline denominations that got the baptism in the Holy Spirit during the 70s.

Hope flaglady finds the link. I can't find a search function on this forum (and it drives me nuts).

I know hundreds of Pastors who consider themselves Pentecostal, but are not in any denomination

 

[mourningdove~]

Hope flaglady finds the link.

Me, too.

 

[JEBrady]

I know hundreds of Pastors who consider themselves Pentecostal, but are not in any denomination

It could be I just don't get out much.

 

[dorcus]

Hi there-I have a unique perspective on this question as i am pentecostal and both of my sisters are charasmatic. Most apostolic pentecostals believe that receiving the holy ghost is a gift but it is a necessary part of salvation. Most also believe the holy ghost is evident by the speaking in tongues. My sisters' church believes in the holy ghost ss a gift but the evidence of tongues is not necessary. Understand I'm speaking as a oneness pentecostal. I know some assemblies churches feel differently about tongues. Most apostolics do not believe they are a denomination. UPCI is an organization not a denomination. Hope this helps a little.

 

[flaglady]

This was asked some while ago. I'll search it out and give you the link as it was very well debated and answered.

No luck - sorry!!

 

[freemansw]

The difference between Pentecostal and Charismatic has blurred over the years. I grew up in the Pentecostal church and we believed that you could only speak in tongues as the Spirit gave you the utterance. We called people Charismatic if they believed that you could initiate tongues on your own and could even teach someone to speak in tongues.

 

[Rosebaronet]

I think Pentecost started the Charismatic movement, and spread the practice to other denomies. At least that is what the encyclepedia said.

 

[Rosebaronet]

The problem with Pentecostal is that it is organized around the practice of Spiritual Baptism, as opposed to doctrines, as a results, pentecostal pastors don't necessarily agree with each other on certain doctrines, but they will share the same spiritual experience and same practice.

 

[freemansw]

The problem with Pentecostal is that it is organized around the practice of Spiritual Baptism, as opposed to doctrines, as a results, pentecostal pastors don't necessarily agree with each other on certain doctrines, but they will share the same spiritual experience and same practice.

Actually the real problem with the Pentecostal and Charismatic movements today is most do no know the difference between the Holy Spirit and demonic mysticism. Mysticism is alive and well in religions like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam and even the Jews have their own form of mysticism, it is called Kabbalah. You may have even heard in the news lately about how the pop star Madonna has been practicing Kabbalah.

You may have heard what is commonly called “Waves” in the Charismatic Movement. They say Pentecostalism was the first “Wave”, Charismatic was the second “Wave”, and what went on in Pensacola Florida and the Vineyard Churches is the third “Wave”. That roaring like lions and other animal sounds and “Holy laughter” in the third “Wave” are also seen in other mystic religions. Hindus who have converted to Christianity have said that even healings have taken place in their own Hindu mysticism.

 

[Rosebaronet]

I believe majority of Pentecostals can differentiate the different between Holy Spirit and Demonic spirit in their practice, although i admit it is hard to generalize, because the experience is subjective in natural, but I tend to think God won't let Satin have his way with his children.

 

[Able]

Wow. Really interesting. There was a split almost immediately after Azuza Street. The split was between the Trinity-Baptism Titles and the Oneness/Jesus Name groups. I am not trying to start a discussion between who is right and wrong just trying to show that the minute God does something, Satan is right there trying to copy it and/or create divisions.

We better all wake up and realize there is not one of us who has it all right and put our focus on Jesus and following Him.

I have enough trouble following Jesus, Loving God with all my heart soul strenght and loving my neighbor as myself without worrying if I completely understand every bit of doctrine out there. I'm not saying we shouldn't seek and study but I am saying it shouldn't be the end all.

Okay, I will get off my stump.

God bless everyone! Jesus loves you and I'm trying to!!

 

[mrhappy3]

Wow. Really interesting. There was a split almost immediately after Azuza Street. The split was between the Trinity-Baptism Titles and the Oneness/Jesus Name groups. I am not trying to start a discussion between who is right and wrong just trying to show that the minute God does something, Satan is right there trying to copy it and/or create divisions.

We better all wake up and realize there is not one of us who has it all right and put our focus on Jesus and following Him.

I have enough trouble following Jesus, Loving God with all my heart soul strenght and loving my neighbor as myself without worrying if I completely understand every bit of doctrine out there. I'm not saying we shouldn't seek and study but I am saying it shouldn't be the end all.

Okay, I will get off my stump.

God bless everyone! Jesus loves you and I'm trying to!!

That makes a lot of sense.

 

[Rosebaronet]

I am not too worried about doctrins, all I care about is my love relationship with the Lord and fulfilling whatever his plan for me was. I am too stupid to diggest doctrins. lol

 

[Brother Jason]

Well, I'm a recovering apostolic, doctrine is important, it's sad to wake up and realize that you have lost 8 years or so of your life telling everyone else that they are bound for hell because of such and such. We have to have a solid foundation.

 

[freemansw]

I believe majority of Pentecostals can differentiate the different between Holy Spirit and Demonic spirit in their practice, although i admit it is hard to generalize, because the experience is subjective in natural, but I tend to think God won't let Satin have his way with his children.

But what happens when you cross that line, when you become like the Laodiceans in Revelation 3:14-21. Or you become full of pride and you become self-righteous, or you continue to compromise on holiness just a little each day until finally the Holy Spirit leaves you and you never even notice it, or you are like those who try to have the Pentecostal “Experience” while bypassing holiness altogether.

 

[Rosebaronet]

May the Lord guards me from pride and self-righteousness, and ever mindful that I am nothing without Jesus.

I think holiness is a unconscious experience, I do not think I am holy, and I think even those who experienced holiness would conscious recognize those holiness. However I believe that through following the Bible, loving of others, respect and kindness to alll, the Holy Ghost would never be compromised.