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Oh good, I can start my own denomination, and if I get enough of people to join me, God will accept it? OK, in my denomination people will be asked to seek the truth. They will not be forced to "believe" certain events happened in ancient times to get to heaven. Instead we will let everybody in, regardless of what they think or believe. (If they cause trouble there may need to be disciplinary measures, but nobody will be sent to eternal torment in hell.)
So everybody here is just guessing what it takes to get to heaven?
OK, so we erase the previous lists and forget those who said "all we need is love" and we start all over with the correct way? Sure, why not.
Yes, that's what heaven is all about, when Jesus separates sheep & goats the divider will be whether or not he knew (had relationship with) them.
I was referring to doubting the one true living God
You didn't have the faith once delivered to the saints, faith in a living active God who does what we cannot do. Your faith was in dead religion. So, your skepticism was a right response but now at least give what works a serious try. To refuse to do so is not skepticism, it is cynicism.
So Matthew got it wrong? Here is how he thought God separated the sheep from the goats:
Right, you said God's sign was speaking in tongues.
Oh, so doubting in itself is not bad. Doubting is bad only if one doubts what is obviously true. Of course!
Why do you condemn my past faith? You know nothing about my past faith experience. How can you possibly condemn my faith experience before you know anything about my faith?
Ah, you want me to be open minded. I agree. I should be open to the possibility that I may be wrong.
No, he used different words to express the same relationship after all, it's the same Jesus speaking of the same separation. Actually I was wrong in that it was Luk 13:23-26 where the phrase I quoted comes from.
No, you did, if you love God & his ways you will enjoy sharing Him with others who are the same!
Yes they are because God isn't going to change his way & his word to suit modern-day "Christianity". As Paul prophesied:
Anyone who doubts the obvious is giving credence to some myth that denies the obvious. God offers proof with his truth. He has witneses, all those that have found it who are sent to testify to the others. There are many proofs of God that can lead people to seek Him. God used the stars to call the "wise men", for me it was meeting people who were shining spiritually in the darkness.
What you/people call "Christian" is more often than not what God calls "Christian". A person is not one until they receive God's Spirit (Romans 8:8-9), an experience clearly defined.
Judge a tree by it's fruit. It left you full of doubt!
If you can find any I'll listen.
Ah, why didn't I think of that? (slapping my forehead). When Jesus said "to the extent you have done it to one of these brothers" he really meant "to the extent you were empowered by a tongues speaking relationship." Feeding the hungry is just another term for an empowered relationship through speaking in tongues? So no contradiction?
Huh? I wasn't asking you about sharing God with others.
You experience peace and power. Great.
Wow! So all those non-charismatic Christians that posted here are hopelessly bound for hell in your view. And they will all suffer eternal punishment with no hope of any relief, all because they didn't have a tongues-speaking relationship with God?
Oh, of course, true tongues-speaking Christians can be as messed up as anybody else.
OK, and Christians who don't accept your tongues speaking salvation are denying the obvious?
Defined by speaking in tongues, yes?
Ok, so you joined the tongues-speaking community and found great hope.
OK, so the non-charismatics here reject God and true salvation because of their pride?
Not when I had faith. At that time I was strong in my trust in the Bible.
Great. As long as you keep an open mind that you could be wrong on these claims, we can review them together. Stick around.
They didn't forget, they never knew. Most people have been taught what to believe by "men of the cloth". Salvation cannot be understood until experienced personally - a revelation, the beginning of a father-son/daughter relationship, a 2-way thing whereby God does what we cannot so we grow in faith & understanding of Him.
It's the only one that fits - prove me wrong!
Yes you were, you said:
No he does not. You have completely missed it!
I cannot accept that interpretation. It doesn't make sense of what is said. If it meant physical giving I would know what I was giving and when / to whom yet the sheep did not know. Also, physical food and clothing does not bring salvation to the soul, if it does, Jesus didn't need to give his life, mankind can physically help people without his death.
No, the power & peace I received remains and I am increasingly able to appreciate God's word and will and see it fulfilled in me and others I speak to. Weed does not do this.
Relief from weeping & gnashing of teeth, i.e. bitterness and regret comes soon after they have been shown their wilfull rejection , the soul is destroyed in "the second death". Eternal torment may be one of their doctrines, not mine.
Yup, because having received the Spirit they do not develop a relationship with God, they turn to following man's ideas.
You don't care about my view, neither do I.
You will get tired of opinions one day.
It's been over 27 years "high", rituals are repetitive, predictable, learned... not growing relationship.
In some cases, for others it's fear of what others will say, or just plain ignorance.
People that say that are really showing their own unwillingness to listen.
Yours is a story I have heard 1,000+ times. People have a sincere faith as a child (or perhaps later), they believe the bible stories ... but, they never receive and live by "the faith once delivered", the Spirit of God, so as soon as something bad happens that they can't explain they think "where are you God?", no answer, so, game over ... except that they never entered the game by being born again - which means you receive the Spirit & speak in tongues:
Thanks but I don't have time to listen to a long story.
Huh? What they didn't know is that they had "fed Jesus". So they asked when they had fed Jesus, and Jesus explains that they had "fed him" when they had fed his brothers.
Oh puhleeze! So every time you find Jesus talking about feeding he is talking figuratively? How do you know he never ever talked about physically feeding?
Good question: Why did Jesus die?
In Matthew 25:46 (in the parable we are looking at) it says, "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Oh yes I do.
Tired of opinions?
Never!
Yet another plan?
